Another reason I like Phoenix AZ most days are clear and not much weather except in the summer monsoons. Been very nice weather here high 70's and almost no wind.
Watch a video, "178 seconds to live" it describes this type of thing. If you look up Spacial disorientation on the NTSB accident website many in there. My wife knew someone who died trying to fly out of Grand Canyon airport at night only had 20 hours of IFR training. Also listen to this MP3 another VFR pilot lost in the clouds he died killed his daughter and 2 others W W W.liveatc.net/forums/atcaviation-audio-clips/n223cd-sr-20-crash-chicago-11262011-audio/
The FSS guys in BWG saved my ass back in 1970. These guys are invaluable.
My airline hands me my WX every flight,but I always still call 18009927433 for my own weather picture. The FAA are a bunch of idiots for trying to get rid of these guys.
So, if I'm in a cessna or airbus 320 I use them all the time.
I ran into light cloud on my first solo long nav training for my PPl. I had to go lower due to cloud cover but also there was mountainous terrain below. I had around 300 feet of clear airspace. Luckily I didn't panic, I just kept looking around for clear spot and calling atc to tell them I was unsure of my position. Eventually ATC found me and I was 3nm of my track. I got to my School Airport with 1200 base cloud. A few hours later I realized how lucky I was to stay calm. doing my ATPLs now
he is lucky the plane stayed intact with the G load . Possibly he is not much experienced sure he didnt know how to recover from spiral dive and stall(which is a bummer how the hell is he going solo?)
It sounds to me like he lost control of his airplane more than likely as a result of uncoordinated flight and panicked. ATC can help you figure out where you are but it's up to us to bring the airplane under control. I think this guy simply lost his composure. He needs to spend more time in the air with a CFI and practice some recovery procedures. A PPL is a license to learn and perfect those skills.
Imagine going flying with this guy, I when flying with a bubby of mine once and i did not like the way he is talking to him is self and counting every maneuver. Example Flaps up, left bank , Right bank on a 172 lol.
on my second flight lesson doing stall practice ( vfr of course) w/ a bit of a crosswind I began a spin ( just entered it ) I wont tell a lie with next to no expierence i was scared... thank God for the instructor becuase I froze for a second, and the yelled your plane! I since have practiced spins because i want to know how to get out of them step on the ball!
on my second flight lesson doing stall practice ( vfr of course) w/ a bit of a crosswind I began a spin ( just entered it ) I wont tell a lie with next to no expierence i was scared... thank God for the instructor becuase I froze for a second, and the yelled your plane! I since have practiced spins because i want to know how to get out of them step on the ball!
As a GA pilot myself I have to ask the question: Who says that a properly trained contractor in a tower facility is any less qualified / helpful than an equally well trained FAA controller? This is a distortion at the expense of this young man's ( the pilot in the audio) experience. The FAA did NOT save this man's life. Another human did, and no individual recognition of that fact is given. That's a shame, and good reason for LESS governmental involvement for the power hungry not more.
wow that s some real efficent ATC.. they are great!! if you just heard some of the atc we have here in spain in small airports..trying to make our lifes more difficult instead of helping us..
Ahmidviper do you know what vertigo is, I’m going to tell you right now that it’s a bitch and if you do not know how to overcome it you’re in trouble. He made a smart decision to turn around to get out of IMC, but then vertigo got the best of him and caused him to enter a spin. I am an IFR rated pilot, this guy is not “an inferior idiot pilot,” Shit happens, flying in IMC is not easy the first time you enter it!! Flying under the hood is nothing like flying in actual IFR.
I always wondered how people ended up losing control in IMC - it was only recently however, while training for my CPL with the screens up that I experienced full conflict between my sight and my vestibular system and not for demonstration. I knew that I had to keep the turn co-ordinator aeroplane wings level (partial panel) but maintaining this gave my body an incredibly overwhelming sense that the aeroplane was banked steeply to the right. Inadvertant IMC - knowledge and discipline required!
combining IFR rating with PPL would be really expensive due to more hours. But this is crazy, I am pretty sure it is required to have at least 3 hours of instrument time with an instructor when getting PPL training, so this guy just panicking doesnt make it any better. At first I thought this was a joke, if he has the time to push the button to transfer radio communications why cant he use his brain and look at his flight instruments.
i wish there was more instrument training involved with getting the PPL, perhaps they should combine the requirements of and IFR rating and the PPL? Fewer people would probably get training, limiting the number of fliers but i think we'd all be safer pilots> just and idea. From experience I've run into lots of very sketchy private pilots, most are very rich, don't fly often and all have complex, high performance birds.
Todo el que quiera vivir momentos de adrenalina es mejor que los viva en una ciudad mecánica y no jugar ni poner la vida en peligro por creer que nada va a suceder, despues que esta metido en tremendo peo le pide a DIos que lo saque de semejante idiotes.
Pilots who fly into known IMC conditions usually result in a fatal accident. Pilots who don't hold an instrument rating either don't 'trust' the instruments or they don't interpret them properly and become spatially disoriented. The 3 hours of instrument training you receive during your Private pilot training usually isn't enough to get you out of trouble. This pilot is lucky to be alive!
Was he not watching his airspeed? If he started to go into a stall, his airspeed would have undoubtedly dropped. I was going to say also, every private pilot, instrument rated or not, should have a firm grasp of flying via instruments somewhat.
@bvoss600 A PPL will give you just about enough training on instrument flying, but not enough to make you confident enough in your instruments. He entered IMC and obviously panicked. When that happens he obviously lost touch with the aircraft and stopped looking at the airspeed. Before you know it, the altimeter needle starts moving, the VSI needle starts moving, The DG starts moving, The TC starts moving. The ASI starts moving. The AI starts swinging around. He lost total orientation!
@atanas747 Yeah, I won't argue that. I suppose I have never really found myself in that sort of situation, but I just got my PPL and don't have much experience myself. All I know is that my instructor placed a great deal of emphasis on having a firm grasp of instrumentation even on a PP level. I think you're right in that once he hit IMC he probably panicked, which caused him to lose focus.
Lesson learned is to stay calm. A cool head under stress can save your life!
@bvoss600 Totally! Panicking was basically the worst mistake he made and that took him away from any rational thinking. Put it this way...the PPL instrument level is just about enough to make you understand what to expect, not to give you confidence in the instruments over your bodies perceived sensations. Getting over that takes far longer, hence why the instrument rating is 40hours. I have flown in IMC plenty of times, but can still see how a low houred PPL can get disorientated.
I think that he was just focused on looking outside trying to find some type of ground reference that he forgot to fly the airplane, stalled and the plane was uncoordinated enough to go into a spin. Going into a spin in IMC is difficult at best. Private pilots don't train for spin recovery, they just talk about it. Its disorienting to fly into IMC as it is. He was lucky that the cessna is an incredibly stable aircraft.
Its not normal to have spin training during the private, in fact, up to CFI spin training is not required. If you got spin training then that is up to the individual instructor. I did a few spins during my training for fun but you are not required to do it during the checkride, only talk about it. Things should be changed though. It is one thing to talk about it, another to actually do it.
@bvoss600 when you're exclusively a VFR pilot and you get into a situation like that, the problem is that by the time you realize you're stalling you don't have much time, and your first instinct is to try and drop the nose, but that may not fix the stall or make it worse. In VFR you take it for granted that the wings will be level or approximately so, and if they're not you'll know it. In IFR, the wings could be straight up and down, and that's why you're stalling. Nose down won't always help.
@bvoss600 agreed,for my ppl i did double the required hood time, didnt fly an approach or anything, but we practiced no gyro asr approach's for fun/experience. bein able to use the VSI, altimiter, and airspeed indicator in the possible attitude intidactor failure, or encounter with IFR while only vfr, was a great help, mainly bc i did IFR right after the ppl. but i do think u should be able to control an aircraft 100% and fly at the very least, a ASR approach in an emergency as a private pilot.
this guy is lucky he survived. any of us pilots can say "he should have", but reality is VFR into IMC is very dangerous for even the most experienced pilots, you can read about their deaths in the NTSB reports. something to think about ...
ATC done an outstanding job in this case. I know the ATC's that work at my terminal and to be a little honest, I wouldn't trust them in a situation like this. They were cool throughout.
The engine compartment has nothing to do with flying into IFR conditions. It sucks, especially if it is not expected. Even pilots that are certified for such conditions can easiliy become disoriented when conditions are not expected. I commend the guy and I cannot say that I would have done any better when I see the attitude gauge begin to roll.
Beginner private pilots take heed, make your CFI give you lessons on IFR, and do not let them tell you no either; its a matter of being prepared.
tut tut tut only if people knew the truth air traffic control dont help at all in this situation rule no 1 aviate which means fly the bastrd plane rule no 2 navigate wich means in this instance being VFR no sight of ground trust your instruments and best of all rule no 3 communicate good luck with the last one because they just chat shit sqawk 7700 and if your luky you will land safely and they will find you
by definition, i could throw a banana and if you couldnt tell what it was, then it was an Unidentified Object that was Flying.. UFO has nothing to do with aliens you stupid noob!
This guy is the reason you need to practice practice and oh ya practice.
If you have your rating, you can still go out with an IP or CFI to do hood work oh and be calm. OR YOU WILL DIE.... So did he roll or spin????? Sounds like bs. to me
as any other licenced pilot, i have gone through unusual attitudes trainning under the hood so yes i absolutely have experienced spatial disorientation.. theres nothing like being almost inverted and having to bring the aircraft back to straight and level while blind
any idiot can keep an aircraft straight and level in non VFR conditions.. all he had to do from there was ask for vectors to a clearer area.. i don't know what all the crying was about, did this guy lose his licence?
This is why every pilot should have an I/R rating, even before I got my I/R rating I flew into think smog/smoke and could not see a thing outside my window, I just used the attitude indicator to keep level untill I was clear, while keeping an eye on my altitude indicator too. He should have known some basic I/R rules to keep safe. To be a pilot you have to be a very calm and cool headed person. I would like to know how he even got into IFR weather in the first place?
spatial disorientation is not fun but this guy showed some bad traits on how he handled this. He showed signs of the though pattern resignation where he felt he had no control he just freaked out and though he was going to die.
o my goodness i have never heard anyone scream for their life like taht, that's terrible that he's sucha a sucky pilot tho, i hope he dont stall again bc i'm about 4 minutes in and he just seems like a fail, kind of like my haphazard typing lol
Another reason I like Phoenix AZ most days are clear and not much weather except in the summer monsoons. Been very nice weather here high 70's and almost no wind.
kell490 1 month ago
Watch a video, "178 seconds to live" it describes this type of thing. If you look up Spacial disorientation on the NTSB accident website many in there. My wife knew someone who died trying to fly out of Grand Canyon airport at night only had 20 hours of IFR training. Also listen to this MP3 another VFR pilot lost in the clouds he died killed his daughter and 2 others W W W.liveatc.net/forums/atcaviation-audio-clips/n223cd-sr-20-crash-chicago-11262011-audio/
kell490 1 month ago
Lucky man, the traffic controller was allso a pilot....
bucker26 2 months ago
he sounded calm....
mist8k 2 months ago
Some people just shouldn't be pilots. Sorry. AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!
Way to go dude.
southaustinbrass101 2 months ago
As part of my PPL training I got basic instrument training. Is it not legal requirement of the PPL in the states?
maxudaskin 3 months ago
@maxudaskin If all he does is fly VFR for years after he gets his Private all that training can slowly disappear.
curdle1 3 months ago
@maxudaskin it is but people panic.
Daze18 3 months ago
Glad he made it out ok!!
familyman4193 4 months ago
IFR certification should be made mandatory for all GA.
It's time...it should have been done decades ago.
My mind boggles when I think of the number of lives that could have been saved over the years.
hammerogod 8 months ago 2
@hammerogod No it shouldn't. The LAST thing GA needs is more regulation and more costs. Don't be stupid.
sa227fly 5 months ago
@sa227fly
Screw That!
Equating expense with lives is bullshit.
Look at the GA accident rates related to "Non-IFR Pilots Flying Into IFR Conditions" and then tell me I am Stupid again.
How many hours does it take to get an IFR rating?
Well...since there is no minimum number of hours for FAR 61.57 it can take as few as 15 hours for a pilot with average intelligence.
Not many when you consider the benefits.
GA accidents is what will kill GA.
Insurance rates nearly have already.
Period.
hammerogod 5 months ago
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ajstoner21 8 months ago
wow
gfunkel200 8 months ago
Man that gave shivers up my spine with that pilot.
davtis 10 months ago
God Bless that ATC guy and the pilot!! That was intense!!!
ttjoslin 10 months ago
The FSS guys in BWG saved my ass back in 1970. These guys are invaluable.
My airline hands me my WX every flight,but I always still call 18009927433 for my own weather picture. The FAA are a bunch of idiots for trying to get rid of these guys.
So, if I'm in a cessna or airbus 320 I use them all the time.
b777dfw 11 months ago 3
I ran into light cloud on my first solo long nav training for my PPl. I had to go lower due to cloud cover but also there was mountainous terrain below. I had around 300 feet of clear airspace. Luckily I didn't panic, I just kept looking around for clear spot and calling atc to tell them I was unsure of my position. Eventually ATC found me and I was 3nm of my track. I got to my School Airport with 1200 base cloud. A few hours later I realized how lucky I was to stay calm. doing my ATPLs now
bazeire808 11 months ago
this is why you dont go into imc under vfr crashes happen all the time from even experianced instrument pilots going into imc under vfr
Joe22822 1 year ago
he is lucky the plane stayed intact with the G load . Possibly he is not much experienced sure he didnt know how to recover from spiral dive and stall(which is a bummer how the hell is he going solo?)
shadowfax1903 1 year ago
It sounds to me like he lost control of his airplane more than likely as a result of uncoordinated flight and panicked. ATC can help you figure out where you are but it's up to us to bring the airplane under control. I think this guy simply lost his composure. He needs to spend more time in the air with a CFI and practice some recovery procedures. A PPL is a license to learn and perfect those skills.
YeagerP51 1 year ago
Imagine going flying with this guy, I when flying with a bubby of mine once and i did not like the way he is talking to him is self and counting every maneuver. Example Flaps up, left bank , Right bank on a 172 lol.
basimpsn 1 year ago
mt. pleasent he said somewhere mt. pleasent what state
flightTime123 1 year ago
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@flightTime123 There is a Mt. Pleasant, and a Burlington in NC, but ATC said Des Moines, which I believe is only in Iowa.
Ripu2 1 year ago
If he's straight and level why is he still screaming?
AzamatBagatov2 1 year ago
This is proof that you never know how you'll react to something like this unless you're actually in it.
Ryan92Ex 1 year ago
on my second flight lesson doing stall practice ( vfr of course) w/ a bit of a crosswind I began a spin ( just entered it ) I wont tell a lie with next to no expierence i was scared... thank God for the instructor becuase I froze for a second, and the yelled your plane! I since have practiced spins because i want to know how to get out of them step on the ball!
BMAN1104 1 year ago
on my second flight lesson doing stall practice ( vfr of course) w/ a bit of a crosswind I began a spin ( just entered it ) I wont tell a lie with next to no expierence i was scared... thank God for the instructor becuase I froze for a second, and the yelled your plane! I since have practiced spins because i want to know how to get out of them step on the ball!
BMAN1104 1 year ago
As a GA pilot myself I have to ask the question: Who says that a properly trained contractor in a tower facility is any less qualified / helpful than an equally well trained FAA controller? This is a distortion at the expense of this young man's ( the pilot in the audio) experience. The FAA did NOT save this man's life. Another human did, and no individual recognition of that fact is given. That's a shame, and good reason for LESS governmental involvement for the power hungry not more.
chahug02 1 year ago
wow that s some real efficent ATC.. they are great!! if you just heard some of the atc we have here in spain in small airports..trying to make our lifes more difficult instead of helping us..
b734pilot 1 year ago
Ahmidviper do you know what vertigo is, I’m going to tell you right now that it’s a bitch and if you do not know how to overcome it you’re in trouble. He made a smart decision to turn around to get out of IMC, but then vertigo got the best of him and caused him to enter a spin. I am an IFR rated pilot, this guy is not “an inferior idiot pilot,” Shit happens, flying in IMC is not easy the first time you enter it!! Flying under the hood is nothing like flying in actual IFR.
aviator7838 1 year ago
sounds like textbook vertigo to me
flynmid 1 year ago
I always wondered how people ended up losing control in IMC - it was only recently however, while training for my CPL with the screens up that I experienced full conflict between my sight and my vestibular system and not for demonstration. I knew that I had to keep the turn co-ordinator aeroplane wings level (partial panel) but maintaining this gave my body an incredibly overwhelming sense that the aeroplane was banked steeply to the right. Inadvertant IMC - knowledge and discipline required!
bravobravo74 1 year ago
@bravobravo74 i have experienced vertigo several times...it is totally cazy...i agree, knowledge and dicipline required!!!
repoman150 1 month ago
combining IFR rating with PPL would be really expensive due to more hours. But this is crazy, I am pretty sure it is required to have at least 3 hours of instrument time with an instructor when getting PPL training, so this guy just panicking doesnt make it any better. At first I thought this was a joke, if he has the time to push the button to transfer radio communications why cant he use his brain and look at his flight instruments.
ASRBanshee 1 year ago
i wish there was more instrument training involved with getting the PPL, perhaps they should combine the requirements of and IFR rating and the PPL? Fewer people would probably get training, limiting the number of fliers but i think we'd all be safer pilots> just and idea. From experience I've run into lots of very sketchy private pilots, most are very rich, don't fly often and all have complex, high performance birds.
velophile 1 year ago
Todo el que quiera vivir momentos de adrenalina es mejor que los viva en una ciudad mecánica y no jugar ni poner la vida en peligro por creer que nada va a suceder, despues que esta metido en tremendo peo le pide a DIos que lo saque de semejante idiotes.
piloto1324 1 year ago
what an inferior idiot pilot
Ahmidsviper 1 year ago
Pilots who fly into known IMC conditions usually result in a fatal accident. Pilots who don't hold an instrument rating either don't 'trust' the instruments or they don't interpret them properly and become spatially disoriented. The 3 hours of instrument training you receive during your Private pilot training usually isn't enough to get you out of trouble. This pilot is lucky to be alive!
aetow19 1 year ago
people need to practice instrument flight more
chestateegold 1 year ago
help me jesus lord help me
basimpsn 2 years ago
Was he not watching his airspeed? If he started to go into a stall, his airspeed would have undoubtedly dropped. I was going to say also, every private pilot, instrument rated or not, should have a firm grasp of flying via instruments somewhat.
bvoss600 2 years ago 10
@bvoss600 A PPL will give you just about enough training on instrument flying, but not enough to make you confident enough in your instruments. He entered IMC and obviously panicked. When that happens he obviously lost touch with the aircraft and stopped looking at the airspeed. Before you know it, the altimeter needle starts moving, the VSI needle starts moving, The DG starts moving, The TC starts moving. The ASI starts moving. The AI starts swinging around. He lost total orientation!
atanas747 1 year ago
@atanas747 Yeah, I won't argue that. I suppose I have never really found myself in that sort of situation, but I just got my PPL and don't have much experience myself. All I know is that my instructor placed a great deal of emphasis on having a firm grasp of instrumentation even on a PP level. I think you're right in that once he hit IMC he probably panicked, which caused him to lose focus.
Lesson learned is to stay calm. A cool head under stress can save your life!
bvoss600 1 year ago
@bvoss600 Totally! Panicking was basically the worst mistake he made and that took him away from any rational thinking. Put it this way...the PPL instrument level is just about enough to make you understand what to expect, not to give you confidence in the instruments over your bodies perceived sensations. Getting over that takes far longer, hence why the instrument rating is 40hours. I have flown in IMC plenty of times, but can still see how a low houred PPL can get disorientated.
atanas747 1 year ago
@atanas747 That is of course assuming he is a low houred PPL.
atanas747 1 year ago
@bvoss600
I think that he was just focused on looking outside trying to find some type of ground reference that he forgot to fly the airplane, stalled and the plane was uncoordinated enough to go into a spin. Going into a spin in IMC is difficult at best. Private pilots don't train for spin recovery, they just talk about it. Its disorienting to fly into IMC as it is. He was lucky that the cessna is an incredibly stable aircraft.
HDaviator 1 year ago
@HDaviator Actually, I had a spin demonstrated to me during my private.
jofus2019 1 year ago
@jofus2019
Its not normal to have spin training during the private, in fact, up to CFI spin training is not required. If you got spin training then that is up to the individual instructor. I did a few spins during my training for fun but you are not required to do it during the checkride, only talk about it. Things should be changed though. It is one thing to talk about it, another to actually do it.
HDaviator 1 year ago
@bvoss600 when you're exclusively a VFR pilot and you get into a situation like that, the problem is that by the time you realize you're stalling you don't have much time, and your first instinct is to try and drop the nose, but that may not fix the stall or make it worse. In VFR you take it for granted that the wings will be level or approximately so, and if they're not you'll know it. In IFR, the wings could be straight up and down, and that's why you're stalling. Nose down won't always help.
cecilkorik 1 year ago
@bvoss600 agreed,for my ppl i did double the required hood time, didnt fly an approach or anything, but we practiced no gyro asr approach's for fun/experience. bein able to use the VSI, altimiter, and airspeed indicator in the possible attitude intidactor failure, or encounter with IFR while only vfr, was a great help, mainly bc i did IFR right after the ppl. but i do think u should be able to control an aircraft 100% and fly at the very least, a ASR approach in an emergency as a private pilot.
CaptainBergs 1 year ago
@bvoss600 actually any airfoil can stall at any airspeed
flyboy4692 1 year ago
@bvoss600 actually any airfoil can stall at any airspeed
flyboy4692 1 year ago 5
@bvoss600 All´s easy when you´re not flying the plane.
bruno84 11 months ago
@bruno84
True dat
hammerogod 8 months ago
i love how he tries to get a weather brief after almost dying! maybe he should take a break
modelstatus010 2 years ago
Was anyone able to decipher theendcredits post???
localizeractive 2 years ago
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localizeractive 2 years ago
I second that.
localizeractive 2 years ago
this guy is lucky he survived. any of us pilots can say "he should have", but reality is VFR into IMC is very dangerous for even the most experienced pilots, you can read about their deaths in the NTSB reports. something to think about ...
mechmove 2 years ago
ATC done an outstanding job in this case. I know the ATC's that work at my terminal and to be a little honest, I wouldn't trust them in a situation like this. They were cool throughout.
earlpressley 2 years ago
that guy did not spend enough time under the hood
FireFighterrock24 2 years ago
The engine compartment has nothing to do with flying into IFR conditions. It sucks, especially if it is not expected. Even pilots that are certified for such conditions can easiliy become disoriented when conditions are not expected. I commend the guy and I cannot say that I would have done any better when I see the attitude gauge begin to roll.
Beginner private pilots take heed, make your CFI give you lessons on IFR, and do not let them tell you no either; its a matter of being prepared.
earlpressley 2 years ago
the hood is the little thing that blinds your view outside the airplane
and i will keep that in mind even though i have logged over 500 hours of actual instrument and hold a current CFI II
FireFighterrock24 2 years ago
@earlpressley by the way, to even RECEIVE your private pilot ticket you must have 3 hours minimum under the "hood".
localizeractive 2 years ago
LOL, got it, my CFI called it the blinds. Sorry about that. It makes more sense to call it the hood.
earlpressley 2 years ago
Yea i didnt think about it being called something else. lol I hated using it but you sure do learn to trust the six pack!
localizeractive 2 years ago
I received my Instrument in that plane and taking a split commercial ride soon!
laloranthony 2 years ago
to: theendcredits, its called a 6 pack and the only instrument you can trust in a spiral dive is your turn coordinator, if you're lucky
laurynvictoriah 2 years ago
WTF?? he went crazy .
Rodrigo2838 2 years ago
Take his ticket! Get rid of VFR altogether!!!
davidsholem 2 years ago
tut tut tut only if people knew the truth air traffic control dont help at all in this situation rule no 1 aviate which means fly the bastrd plane rule no 2 navigate wich means in this instance being VFR no sight of ground trust your instruments and best of all rule no 3 communicate good luck with the last one because they just chat shit sqawk 7700 and if your luky you will land safely and they will find you
786gold786 2 years ago
Chilling..
TonyAirlines 2 years ago
this has to be UFO related
linoleumcarving 2 years ago
by definition, i could throw a banana and if you couldnt tell what it was, then it was an Unidentified Object that was Flying.. UFO has nothing to do with aliens you stupid noob!
theendcredits 2 years ago
EAT banana do not throw it you poo-poo head.
linoleumcarving 2 years ago
This guy is the reason you need to practice practice and oh ya practice.
If you have your rating, you can still go out with an IP or CFI to do hood work oh and be calm. OR YOU WILL DIE.... So did he roll or spin????? Sounds like bs. to me
" I was ifr but saw a tower" Really???
lmbrjill 2 years ago 7
@lmbrjill Dude so true. He needs to chill! i have 25.1 hours in a C152 and like 3 hours under the hood and EVEN I can fly IFR!!!
MrAviation101 1 year ago
as any other licenced pilot, i have gone through unusual attitudes trainning under the hood so yes i absolutely have experienced spatial disorientation.. theres nothing like being almost inverted and having to bring the aircraft back to straight and level while blind
DITMN 2 years ago
always trust the BIG6! mainly attitude airspeed and altimiter! ;)
Happy Flying!
theendcredits 2 years ago
how about this, make a 180 degree standard rate turn and retturn to the vfr conditions that you just left (sound farmiliar to any private pilots)
dogbowl454 2 years ago 2
any idiot can keep an aircraft straight and level in non VFR conditions.. all he had to do from there was ask for vectors to a clearer area.. i don't know what all the crying was about, did this guy lose his licence?
DITMN 2 years ago
People lose spatial orientation in IMC all the time. Ask JFK Jr. about flying straight and level... ;-)
ACfixer 2 years ago 2
sometimes people panic and once you panic you might loose control...
BulgarianInCanada 2 years ago
This is why every pilot should have an I/R rating, even before I got my I/R rating I flew into think smog/smoke and could not see a thing outside my window, I just used the attitude indicator to keep level untill I was clear, while keeping an eye on my altitude indicator too. He should have known some basic I/R rules to keep safe. To be a pilot you have to be a very calm and cool headed person. I would like to know how he even got into IFR weather in the first place?
tealmarlin 2 years ago
hey GulfstreamSucks, is this the picture of the plane that crashed?
Chronicticla 2 years ago
It is. It has the same registration.
rcraig456 2 years ago
Its called photoshop.
Atlantisfan119 2 years ago
yes it is.
marick626 2 years ago
dude sounded like he was on a rollercoaster. corse he kinda was with the plane spinning and going down
12alltel12 2 years ago
Where did this happen at?
BeechBaron2012 2 years ago
haha wow, this guy has NO bearing at all.
Keep your cool, if you cant you shouldn't be a pilot.
AFpilotJJ 2 years ago
You try being in his shoes...
USAFThunderBirdsFtw 2 years ago
I have.
AFpilotJJ 2 years ago
Might want to be a little more humble, it could happen to any of us pilots. That guy sure does scream like a little girl though!
ACfixer 2 years ago
Wow this is bone chilling.. any real pilot will understand what this guy was dealing with
atvmaster281 2 years ago
spatial disorientation is not fun but this guy showed some bad traits on how he handled this. He showed signs of the though pattern resignation where he felt he had no control he just freaked out and though he was going to die.
lunchbag08 2 years ago
wow i saw a lot of air crashes but i never heard the pilot screaming like this
wowpaladin10 2 years ago
very calm and oriented atc...
ricoflareo 2 years ago
o my goodness i have never heard anyone scream for their life like taht, that's terrible that he's sucha a sucky pilot tho, i hope he dont stall again bc i'm about 4 minutes in and he just seems like a fail, kind of like my haphazard typing lol
cjracer1000 2 years ago
This asshole sounds like maverick but doesn't fly like him.
panictactics 2 years ago