CISF REVIEWS: SYSTEMA PTW M4A1 MAX part 2 of 3

[donnieboy007]

great video where did you purchase your PTW are u military? Im trying to get one myself or make a custom gun the closest I can to a PTW.. Any advice you can give me

[33mrb33]

On those grenade launchers can you load anything else into it? like a frag grenade or a stun grenade or smoke grenade or like a bottle rocket or anything? I have always wanted to shoot a bottle rocket out of my grenade launcher. I tried shooting like 8 of them out there one time and it ended blowing up the barrel of my gun so I'm looking for a launcher that actually can do what I need it to do. If it can shoot one of them 50 cal bbs too that would work too. Let me know!!

[TheGrahamAker]

what illuminator was that bro? looks freaking awsome.

[MrDouglaswu]

how do you get so much money... your parents?

[Ako8Squirrel]

I think you should do vid with all ur guns.

[meany1023]

Systemas

[meany1023]

Message for all canadians there is an airsoftstorein calgary alberta Canada selling system prw m4 a1s go to their website imperialairsoft(dot)com email them and they'll get u one full metal fuk the plastic shit there is no law srry Americans we don't ship to the states

[wafflecommander15]

So Sad, we have the last PTW's for a while, apparently ATF are dispursing PTW's becasue you can some how configure it to take real steel and real steel bullets. So any imports of PTW's (to the U.S if you live there) are going straight into the furnace.

[swagergrunt]

does the systema come with a battery? or do u have to buy one... im buying some anyways for backup but wanna kno how many to buy right now im buying 6 9.6's for 3 systemas as well as 3 12vs

[XxBESTEVARxXz]

Your M4s are badass.

[latiosember]

really you dont have to put that much stuff in..

[UnrealFingerboards]

RoyalAirsoft, i found one flaw in your video, when u addressed the systema's forward assist nob as a "dummy", you were correct, but the ICS only needs it because it can jam. The way the magazines are made eliminates the gap inbetween where the hopup chamber and mag meet.

[phreakcore]

by the way that this something is called the foward assist

[TheJedi270]

OMG they are different guns but made by the same company. ics is systema. I personally like my kwa but it is in no way better than my ics. I wish I could line up all the biased kwa fans and burn em up! lol dont get me wrong i like mine but damn kwa is not the best weapon in airsoft

[musicaliest]

Just everyone get a KWA SR12 like me. That will be the best decision you ever made in airsoft.

[uUrRiIIiRrUu]

is it worth it?

[fpsHacker5950]

the c02 12 grams go inside the car stock!

[fpsHacker5950]

lol what an idiot! its not m4a1! m4a1 was last used in the vietnam war together with the m16a1! now we use m4a3 and m16a3! or we use better weapons such as bushmaster magpull masada acr and hk416. I find it so funny watching airsoft players pretend that they have a real gun and that they are special forces. Go play some paintball. Dont tell me shit that it isnt realistic coz the us army uses it for training! the rap4 mets is an m4 replica that ejects shells and is magazine powered!

[musicaliest]

your an idiot we don't use the masada, we use the m16a4 and m4a1 carbine. the closest assult rifle that U.S. was going to use besides the m4/m16 was the h&k xm8 but they backed out at the last second. you are right about these people paying $1000 for an airsoft gun, they're stupit.

[fpsHacker5950]

@musicaliest You are the idiot... I never said anything about the us. I meant the world.

[Heheh274]

you're an idiot.... Systema gave it the name of m4a1 ptw max

[mickeyhand105]

@fpsHacker5950 true dat but basicly police officer or people in service play either both depending what they like and your right abt what you say

[seklawim4]

this thing cost alot go buy a real ar15

[kevidle1234]

LOL "I will be putting on my orange tip before I go outside."

Shit son I was about to call the police on you. obviously u don't need the orange tip!....  Nice Video Review tho

[AtoScordie]

can you help me how to buy one of those...i would like to have one...

[ckyhp]

Do yoou have 1000-2000$ ?

[tnpoon]

you can buy it in major airsoft retailers.

[mickeyhand105]

get a G&G GR 16 gun its a pretty good price and its virtually upgradeable to what ever u want and its also a good gun for new players

[ColinMcRaeBG]

+1 I thing the G&G is better than the ICS

[myredn95rocks]

Very nice setups by the way! on both the ics and systema. you have great taste in accessories.

[myredn95rocks]

The gas blow back m4's are the most realstic replicas. I own a ptw and agm gbb m4 and an ar15, and the gbb agm is hands down the most realsitic available. It operates and functions almost exactly like the real steel, it had a trigger assembly, bolt carrier, bolt (sorta), buffer and action spring, and is def more realistic than systema. However if i had to choose which to take to a game and whats more effective to use it would def be the systema.

[kfs777]

he is also wrong about the hi cap mags. I have a 120 rnd ptw mag. I would actualy call the=at a mid cap though.

[kfs777]

His comments on the mags is completely unproven. His location of the catch theory is not enough. It could just be that the catch sits lower in the systema than in a typical aeg, which is why the catch would be lower.

[gandhicakes]

Probably because his guns suffer like most do from mag wobble. I know for sure the '08 PTWs had wobbly mags, his ICS probably does too.

[gbinuya]

nah, dummy. the tape is make it easier to extract your mags from your mag pouches. soldiers usually were making them out of cord and duct tape. and it's what the magpul magpul improves upon.

[gandhicakes]

Actually it's not dummy. There's a magpul or something similar on the bottom of the mag but the top has tape because of the wobble issue...which is what the OP was asking. If you knew anything about Armalite PTWs you'd know that certain years, especially the 08's have bad mag wobble issues.

[gandhicakes]

It can handle LiPos which is way more than your average stock gun.

[Xxm4systemxX]

why do you use the yellow cylinder??

[ichewtoast111]

I wish I had one :p

But im too much of a gear whore.

[evilicecream]

you can use a 12v in a black cylinder, but the rate of fire will be extremely high

[ktmracer3500]

Dude LPEG use 7.2 v batteries. If anything gun will handle a 9.6 v battery with a black cylinder and the 7.2 v battery was discontinued like a year ago.

[ktmracer3500]

It will be reliable and nothing will strip because, Systema internals can handle all the differnt cylinders that they made for the PTW.

[airsoftassasins]

rofl. its really easy to find. not easy to find 1.5 grand though. go to airsplat to get it if you wanna get it from a large retailer, but i don't like "airsplatians"

[Jigsaw2118]

Does the battery come with the gun?

[ktmracer3500]

No.

[airsoftassasins]

;O rofl

[ZerOwAffLeS]

Im gona be using RA-Tech Type 11.1V 20A 1600mAh Li-Poly Battery Pack (PTW / Crane Stock Type) its good 2

[airsoftassasins]

yeah with 5.98mm bbs you'd be shooting em so fast that they would be physically touching each other roflmao. i'm thinkin

m50 cylinder =p

[airsoftassasins]

Gotcha. Just thought maybe small ROF increase in em, ey?

[airsoftassasins]

shouldn't you use an 12v 1200/2400mah for ptw?

[milsimjunkie]

when you said that the ics forward assist does something (sets the spring forward after the use of fully automatic) and the ptw does nothing. The ptw doesnt need it to do anything, because it automaticaly sets the spring forward

[D3adSurvivalDud3]

why is there blue tape on the magazines?

[Sheepanator93]

you can get mods for the charging handel just you tube serch it and systema make a forwar assist that look at the ptw forum for a writen guide and to get a kit (dont use a pen) plus ive never had that problem you had where you had opening/ closing the gun.

[eddywangchang]

how does he remove the OJ tip

[klumzypinoy]

lol Orange Juice tip? funny name

[eddywangchang]

orange.... no juice tip.....

[dasurfer0900]

howd u take ur orange tip off

[fgh4455]

On the ICS gun you should get a EOTech 552 or 553 Holo-Graphic Weapon Sight and if you get it put the AN/PEQ-2 IR on the Left RIS Rail and Keep the M203 and then you will have the Weapon exactlly like the M4A1 Grenadier in CoD4

LOL Just a Related thing though..

[thecoolkid657]

you put too much stuff on your guns...

[RedneckMarine0110]

you can never put to much stuff on your guns

[bishop102]

too bad it didn't have blowback

[TheGrahamAker]

@bishop102 then get an inokatsu.

[Jords464]

why is the gun so expensive?

[Garrison64]

Because it's a highly crafted weapon with very expensive and advanced internals. It's also made primarily for military and law enforcement training so they had to make it as realistic as possible. That kind of quality doesn't come cheap. The price is similar to the actual weapon which is basically what you're buying except it shoots plastic bb's instead of deadly bullets. Good for training. No dead buddies. : )

[Jords464]

thanks i didn't know...

[fgh4455]

Yeah but if it was truely realistic the PTW would have a Fully Fuctioning Charging Handle??? LOL most Needed thing to be Realistic,Cant Shoot without charging the gun first???

[nimeroy91405]

I cant beleived you compare this to ICS. it doesnt make sense. compare it to a real m4

and you will see the quality of the ptw.

[41ACE]

tm- m4 sopmod is a aeg ptw!! for now

[poteten94]

on*

[poteten94]

What ris does u have one your ptw?

I can find ptw's with ris, but they are cqc.

[Irishstud11]

go to evike they have them

[linkinprkfan548]

how much you want for the ICS m4?

[skittlesareyum48]

do u have to fix the wiring on the ptw max systema m4 every 3 weeks or somethin

[dangerboy3082]

weapon*

[dangerboy3082]

that is a very nice weopon

[gixxer4646]

Be more agresive with your replica, don't be a pussy with her. It's durable enough to resist on pounches.

[ewr318]

thats bull, if you pay $1,500.00 for a gun your going to try to keep it in good condition

[polishdannybob]

How is the reliability with the gun? It has high rof and fps, but at $1500 i would expect it to last a long time.

Also what is the range on this gun?

[F16pilot95]

nice ics wat attachments do u have

[wwwHRISTOhr]

Very informative, WTG

[cdanielr]

that's impressive! the disassembly of the gun is just like the real one!

[Cod4TeamKiller21]

what kind of suppresor is on the ?ICS?

[Cod4TeamKiller21]

whered you get the ICS? and for how much?

[RoyalAirsoft]

The ICS was bought for about $370 from airsoftgi. But its got about $600 bucks worth of upgrades.

[Cod4TeamKiller21]

yea would you reccomend the ics ris or the carbine? if you could gimme a list of pros and cons about the ICS, or make a video of it? :]

[RoyalAirsoft]

The RIS and the carbine version really isnt any differnt with the exception that the RIS come with a rail system and the carbine comes with standard handguards. I recommend the RIS because its a good deal wit the rail system. As far and pro and cons, I cant be too specific, maybe I'll make a video when I get more time. But the ICS rifles are excellent.

[Cod4TeamKiller21]

yea, i want an ics cause its good quality and somke1 told me its the other PTW for the army other than the systema? Also, some1 said they got theres and it didnt have an ics or olypic arms logo it was a DPMS.

[counterkilla92893]

does the bolt catch work?

[gotja]

yes

[RoyalAirsoft]

the gun will stop firing when the last round is shot, after reloading a new mag, you are required to give the bolt catch a push before the weapon will start firing again.

[EUMP]

Give me your PTW :) I love the fact that the PTW's are easy to do maintenace on, as you can easily access the spring etc to change your FPS.

Only problem with Systema's are the magazines, as they aren't compatiable with standard AEG magazines like TM, CA, G&P and so on.

[halo00015]

its funny how you pay $1500 for an airsoft gun but the company cant make it any easier to disassemble

[RoyalAirsoft]

Well I find it 10 times easier than diassemblying an AEG, due to the fact that all you have to do to do maintenance and change the FPS is push out the pin and open the recievers. if you are refering to the ball bearing locking the recievers together, it gets easier over time. now I bearly have to the tap the stock and the recieves can open.

[halo00015]

ya the bearing thing was what i was refering to but thats good it gets easier

[counterkilla92893]

if u go to hk web site did u know they sell real steal m4 for that amount even less? but thjen again u can't bring 1 to an airsoft math :)

[m249saw03]

when you get used to it actualy gets really easy except that damb scar lite airsoft gun its a bitch to get out

[Madvillian0]

what if you order extra stuff with your PTW is it still free shipping

[RoyalAirsoft]

no, you have to pay for the extras' shipping cost, and it's usually between $20-$40 depending on how much weight the extras weigh.

[callam2007]

on the ics whats the wierd square thing on the side and can the grenade launcher do anything or shoot anything

[RoyalAirsoft]

The "square thing" is a battery box and does not do anything besides store a battry. The grenade launcher is an ICS and does work.

[RoyalAirsoft]

No, it is way more than a AEG, true it technically is, but the quality and proformance is much more.

[badmintonho]

hey does your ICS have scratches? lol i have an ICS and it scratches and came with a few tiny ones ^^ o yeeaahhh can you review your ICS if you got the time? that be cool, nice review

[RoyalAirsoft]

Hey thanks. I do not believe my ICS came with scratches. but if they're tiny, I wouldn't worry cus ICS have some pretty sturdy bodies. About the review on my ICS, I was thinking about making one, but its had to many upgrades and MODS done to it, so it would be hard to make an accurate review. I could make a vid just to show off my gun, but maybe not a review. Sorry.

[RoyalAirsoft]

lmao I noticed that when I saw the vid myself... sry, didnt mean to say anything preverted.

[SCASM7]

lol smack it!