Im a scouser, married to a Manchester girl worked in Manchester all my life - Both cities have many lovely people, decent, honest folk. Both have great football clubs, real fans have always ignored the brainless morons who spout bollocks. Good hearted footy banter between us has been a great laugh and long may it peacefully continue.
Nice to see a page on Youtube involving United and Liverpool where both sets of fans are being civil towards each other and not denigrating the other's history. Both men were phenomenal managers.
i hate man u with a passion, but i respect what theyve done in the game. like us, they have an illustrious history, and that, i cant deny. y.n.w.a. l.f.c till i die!
Nice to hear some of these comments from good decent fans. I'm a liverpool fan born and bred scouser and my dads a utd fan born and bred manc ( you can imagine the banter).
Anyway I have respect for the likes of Busby, Charlton, Best and Giggs. Shame how our clubs are now ran though. One thing we as clubs have that can never be tainted or taken away is our history, and what history!
Nice to see so many positive comments on here from my fellow United fans and liverpool fans. yes we may hate the crap out of each other but there will always be that little respect in our history, tradition etc.
Two great managers two great football clubs and two great northern cities. Both blighted by tradgies, both having some scumbags fans who sing about it. Both have claims to being english sides and both are currently owned by greedy yank bastards. GOD NO WONDER WE HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH. Rip the busby babes and the 96 LUHG
Two great managers two great football clubs and two great northern cities. Both blighted by tradgies, both having some scumbags fans who sing about it. Both have claims to being english sides and both are currently owned by greedy yank bastards. GOD NO WONDER WE HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH. Rip the busby babes and the 96 LUHG
Two great managers two great football clubs and two great northern cities. Both blighted by tradgies, both having some scumbags fans who sing about it. Both have claims to being english sides and both are currently owned by greedy yank bastards. GOD NO WONDER WE HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH. Rip the busby babes and the 96 LUHG
Two great managers two great football clubs and two great northern cities. Both blighted by tradgies, both having some scumbags fans who sing about it. Both have claims to being english sides and both are currently owned by greedy yank bastards. GOD NO WONDER WE HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH. Luhg. Rip the busby babes and the 96
Liverpool fan here,Shanks was never biased,He spoke from the heart,even though he was talking about his closest friend and not just in football.These two had enormous respect for each other.Two giants of managers.
I hate it when some Man U fans berate everything about Liverpool FC and likewise when LFC fans insult MUFC. Why can't we all just follow the the example of these two LEGENDARY men and have a gentleman's rivalry compared to the hooliganism we have today. To the real Man U fans, YNWA, a loyal Kopite.
I think this shows what kind of a character Shanks was and that he was humble. This is why Fergie won't be respected in the same way as Busby, Shankly, and Clough.
Im a Liverpool Red for 46 years & I hate utd with a passion, but I respect their past & history. I totally agree with the last few posts. However, that mutual respect that TheSugar1983 talks about &
starryian007 is bang on with what they say. But thats gone. Fergusson has brought a nasty, bitter streak to the game. I know Benitez has been a p**ck as well. Bring back football, not over paid ballarinas falling over a blade of grass in the box & players with no loyalty to Our "religion"!!
What would these 2 Legends have done to the league IF they had the millions to spend managers have today??
Imagine these Gentlemen including Bob Paisley, Jock Stein, Don Revie and Brian Clough, shaping the game as we now know it..........British Teams would be untouchable.
Two honourable gentlemen, with the greatest respect for each other. Thank you for what you both did for the game
well i am a united fan and i have to say fair play to shankly. he is no doubt up in the top 5 managers ever along with Sir Alex, Bob Paisley, Bill Shankly and Brian Clough.
I hate liverpool badly too obviously but just respect the dead, its only fair. i wouldnt dream of mocking hillsborough just like i wouldnt expect munich to be mocked.
"Mocking Munich and Hillsborough is just unacceptable" - Agreed, I am LFC through and through, and I do not like United, but I would never ever sing about the Munich Air Disaster.
Matt Busby was a Liverpool player and captain. In today's world of LFC V MUFC hatred, that's almost completely forgotten. Even your opening comment "I hate Liverpool" proves it. Shankly rose above anyone.
Brian Clough, Don Revie and Jock Stein should be added to that list too, but with all due respect, Ferguson would be at the foot of the list, not because of Man Utd, but he's no where near the class of the others
It's only fitting that the two greatest managers to have ever lived, managed the two greatest football teams in English football. Although I do find it funny how Busby played for Manchester United's rivals in his playing days (City and Liverpool)
Liverpool and Manchester at this time had a healthy admiration for one another. They were both northern teams, many of them played together in the England team and often socialised together. Often the crowd would -somewhat begrudgingly - applaud a piece of skill or a skillful goal by their opponents. Can you see that happening today?
With todays game there are elements in it that are ugly and unacceptable.
I say bring back sportamanship and goodwill to all clubs.
Totally agree with that, i have to say alex ferguson certainly doesn't help matters. Ferguson was the one who started this hatred off by saying what he did about the perch, no other united manager said such an awful thing and certainly no other liverpool manager would EVER say such a thing.
Sorry but Liverpool would have been the first British club to win the European cup in 1964 if it wasn't for dodgy Italian officials this has been proven, it's debatable who planted which ever seeds! Our clubs are rivals and that's how i wish it to remain, but saying that Matt and Bill were the greats of our game!! I can't stand your club but respect the great Matt Busby.
ferguson and his ilke build teams with millions of pounds at their diposal.
Shankly and Busby, especially Shankly, built bastions of football from very little, using pride, passion honesty and bloody hard work. Things sadly lacking in todays selfish game.
Well said Shanks and in all fairness you were a great manager yourself and like Matt Busby a very modest man.A big loss to the game when you retired suddenly after 1974 Cup Final.
They were the best of friends of friends off the pitch which is sad because you don't really see that today. Shankley had huge respect for Busby and Busby was distraught when Shanks died. Both great managers and both great men
Like it or not,sir alex fergusan will go down as one of the greats alongside sir matt,shankly . The amount of trophies hes won at united in the last 20 odd years is amazing,He is fantastic with all managers,especailly of those of lower league clubs,the likes of benitez will never be a great manager,hes won very little at liverpool in his 6 years there,plus hes arrogant and disrespectful to many
Fergusan will go down as a great his record speaks for itself but how how much did fergusan win in his first 6 years at man utd, it takes time for a manager to become great. Benitez jst needs time he has already proven he can win major titles.
Absoulute rubbish, sir alex fergusan will go down as a great along with the likes of sir matt,and shankly, Fergusan is very respectful of fellow managers,and offers support and advise to managers all over the country,benitez will never be looked on as a great manager,for the facts that hes achieved very little at anfield,his arrogance and bitterness etc
Without them, Liverpool FC and Manchester United FC would not have become the two most successful, greatest English clubs in the history of football!!! (greatest clubs in football, possibly)
I love the way Bill Shankly speaks, how he accents certain words and always sounds completely passionate. He could be talking about a croquet player and I would be hooked. Very inspirational!
Mr Busby was a great Manager, a real gentleman, as much as i dislike MUFC he was a man of total humility. He was once asked by a reporter in the late 60's when George Best went awol would he go looking for him? Mr Busby replied: 'he knows where I am.' no one messed around with Sir Matt.
It's a real surprise that neither Shankly nor Paisley were ever knighted.I mean,if someone had won 6 league titles and 3 European cups in today's world,they would surely get knighted,so why did this not happen at that time???
I totally agree with you but a possible reason for shanks and paisley not being knighted could be that through the 70's, 80's and 90's football fans and those who followed it were treated like criminals by the police and the authorities so couldnt contradict themselves by knighting a figurehead of the game.
Thats my opinion why they wernt knighted anyways... good comment btw lad.
Alex Ferguson will never be remembered as a true great the way Shankly, Busby, Clough are because you'd never hear him speak about his rivals the way Shankly did. You never say Fergie praise Wenger of Benitez.
Actually your wrong,fergie does give credit to arsene wenger also gives credit to david moyes,jim smith,bobby robson etc.The games he plays with benitez and mourinho etc in the past, are all part of winning the modern game.There all at it.With what Sir Alex has achieved with both utd & aberdeen, he definately will be remembered as one of the , if not the best club manager in history.
United fan here. Obviously I think Sir Matt is one of footballs true greats- he, in my opinion, was the man who planted the seeds for English football to dominate (European competition, managerial control over the team).
However, I also believe Shankly is another one of the few true footballing greats. A manager with a track record that stands up against ANYONE in world football, who spoke his mind, & above all, was a true football man (That hurt! Haha).
Those words you have spoken are words of a TRUE Football fan. We all can agree that these 2 men were Legends in not only their lifetime, but for the rest of Eternity. Between them, they shaped the future of Football as we know it today, and we all long for a day for the honour to return, without bringing up past disasters, events and passings of players, supporters and managers.
Sorry, Liverpool would have been the first British club to win the European cup if it wasn't for dodgy Italian officials in1964! Other than that Bill and Matt were greats of our game!
Sorry but Liverpool would have been the first British club to win the European cup in 1964 if it wasn't for dodgy Italian officials, it's debatable who planted which ever seeds! i take your opinion as just that, an opinion. Our clubs are rivals and that's how i wish it to remain, but saying that Matt and Bill were the greats of our game!! I can't stand your club but respect the great Matt Busby.
Benitez shows Ferguson no respect because Ferguson, despite his undoubted achievements in football is a bully and a hypocrite and deserves no respect. Busby, Shankley and Paisley were decent and honourable men and can be thought of as Greats IMO
Even though I don't like liverpool,I gotta say that Bill Shankly was a top man for the scousers,what he and Sir Matt did for their respective clubs were tremendous
heres an example of how good shankly was as a manager
imagine crewe alexandra gets a new manager he spends little amount of money on close by players then in a couple of years they win the premier league now thats what i call a fantastic manager
sadly theres so much disrespect in football it could end up killing it disrespectfull fans who sing munich lampards mum hillbrough 96 should hang themselfs
respect to livi fans and man u fans for that matter rip 96 and busby babes
It's more like a new manager coming in at Newcastle and spending a decent amount of money, then them reaching the top 6. It was far easier to do improve a team back then, there was no Champions League cash turning the Top 4 into a closed shop.
I think the best British managers post war have been:
Ferguson, Shankly, Paisley, Stein, Clough and Busby. I also have a soft spot for Bobby Robson and rated him highly as well. As a Scot I could never understand why they never made Clough the England manager. Probably due to the fact he would upset the apple cart.
Sir Matt Busby was the greatest manager ever to boss United, his record speaks for itself along with team he bulit and thoroughly deserved his knighthood. I have no liking for United but I have respect. Mocking Munich and Hillsborough is just unacceptable, I may be Liverpool through and through but.I give credit where credit is due.
I am a liverpool supporter but i will say Matt Busby is probably the greatest manager ever. Not only did he build his team up once when he frist started- but twice- after all the trauma of the munich air disaster- then go on to win the leauge twice, the FA cup AND the euorpean cup! Sir Matt- you are the only manager i agree with to have been knighted. I may be a koppite. I may not like man u. But i give credit where its due.
But remember not only did he play for liverpool, ha captained us too!
A great posting thanks. Matt Busby came to give out the awards to our (liverpool school) sports day in the early eighties - I couldn't believe it - everyone was a bit in awe of him.
This statement by Shanks illustrates the deterioration in society, where individualisation and aspiration to affluence and success at any expense has developed to the point of total disregard for anything or one.
Busby, Shankly and Paisley were brought up in the era of real hardship where comradeship and friendship were real in the game.
The impact of modernity has created a very negative world where competition is cuthroat. They were the greats as where the times, pity money took over!
coz he was a grounds man with no millions brought a team of local lads to the top level.
in a messed up training game, fergie and busby are good but not as good as shankley.
he once said;"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."
fergie has his millions shankly had his penny's and shillings.
also shanks never won the european cup matt busby did. the players busby brought up ie best , edwards , charlton , stiles , coleman , pegg etc etc where better than the ones shanks brought up.
matt busby in the greatest manager of all time even shankly admits it. firstly he brough through the finest young players ever creating the team of the centuary. then rebuilding a shattered team to win the european cup and various other things
with me being a kopite, i like the rivallry between man utd & ourselves but hate all the sick comments about munich, hillsborough etc that u often find on youtube & other sites. as 'slater 071' says, matt busby was our captain throughout the 1930's & was at the club 4 a long time. i'm only 28 but hate the uneducated idiots who probably werent even around 20 yrs ago, that make sick comments about shanks & sir matt. dont get me wrong, i dont like man utd but i'll give credit where it's due.
Absolutley its disgracefull what some knobheads write about the munich disaster and hillsborough.what makes me laugh though is how this is video is all about how much respect two rival managers have for eachother and then people come on saying aw he's shit or hes a blox!completley missing the point of the video!
The two were great great friends... It's very ironic really... Considering the hatred going on today... You wonder is it necessary really. Banter is always good... But the true hatred?
It's amazing the amount of people who don't realise that Busby played for Liverpool!
I'm a Liverpool fan and I agree with 123aidankirrane321. There will never again be another Shankly or Busby. Give either one of them the time and money that Sir Alex has and there's no end to what they could have done for both clubs. (LFC 4 the PREM- 2008/2009)
The thing is that Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and Sir Matt Busby all had tremendous respect for each other and Sir Alex and King Kenny Dalglish used to openly cuss each other on the pitch when Liverpool and Manchester United went head to head back in the day. (I'm a Liverpool fan. LFC 4 the PREM- 2008/2009)
Bill Shankly was being incredibly modest here..as he tends to be when speaking of other people he respects. Busby took over Man U who were in the top flight and had a great youth academy...Shankly took over "the biggest toilet in Liverpool" who were in the 2nd division with journeyman players..and laid all the foundations that made them the best team in Europe...Busby left United in a shambles.
To lose what many consider to have been the most talented young side in Europe and then to go on and win the european cup a few years later - developing the holy trinity of Best, Law and Charlton.
Thats why Busby is a genius, and thats why i cannot stand people who say he took over a top flight side when he had to deal with far more than many other managers.
But, i have to respect Shankly also because he is certainly one of the two greats of all time - the other being Busby.
Harsh....Anfield may have been the biggest toilet in liverpool but United had a huge overdraft at the bank and didnt even have a ground when Busby took over! And he may have inherited a good team in the 40s but he still had to rebuild it twice, in the 50s and again in the 60s with fantastic success both times.
They were both great managers and great men, the like of which will never be seen again.
Although I don't particularly like Liverpool Football Club, If Matt Busby and Bill Shankly can respect each other, then we as fans should be able to drop the Munich and Hillsborough stuff. Women and children died at Hillsborough and it's not funny, families suffered after Munich and that isn't funny either.
R.I.P. To all 96 Hillsborough victims
R.I.P. To the Busby Babes and everyone who died in the Munich Air Disaster.
You know pal, I am a die hard liverpool fan and i don't like Utd in the way you don't like your rivals but what you said is spot on. We as clubs are great clubs with great history maybe why we are such rivals but to mock the dead in any way is wrong. Life is far to important for fans to shout and abuse as people are still suffering with what has happened.
Respect to you for this post. P.S i still want to beat you to the title though. haha
not came on here for all the banter though. Liverpool and United are two of the worlds most succesful teams both having there share of incredible players and managers. Shankly, Paisley then there is Busby and Ferguson. Dalglish to Gerrard, Best to Ronaldo. Im a die hard Liverpool fan, but there is no way of dividing both teams' success.
i admire your courage for speaking out like this but as long as there are idiots going to both anfield and old trafford it will never happen from a liverpool fan
Sir Matt Busby possibly was the greatest manager of all time. Coming in after the war to build a great side only for it to perish in Munich. 10 years later he built another great side and the rest is history. He won 5 League titles, 2 FA Cup's and of course our first European Cup back in 68.
Shankly was also a great manager taking Liverpool from the second division right to the top. He left Bob Paisley a great team.
i have never really thought of any manchester united manager being great. i hate manchester united but if shanks says it, it must be true, but i think he is being modest because he is the best manager then matt busby. one question and one only why was busby and fergerson knighted and shankley and paisley werent? confusing question of life.
Busby. Liverpool captain, where he learnt his trade
XV24 9 months ago 10
Red! ffs come with us!
slickwillywize 11 months ago
With the utmost respect to both legends Shankly and Busby, Sir Alex Ferguson has to by now be regarded at the greatest manager of all time.
KeenDan7 1 year ago
liverpool and united are proper teams, now look what's happening in football with the likes of chelsea, madrid and now city, its a disgrace
adrianse567 1 year ago 7
i would have loved to see bill shankly give fergie a glasgow kiss and put him in his place
20cFilmWannabe 1 year ago
Im a scouser, married to a Manchester girl worked in Manchester all my life - Both cities have many lovely people, decent, honest folk. Both have great football clubs, real fans have always ignored the brainless morons who spout bollocks. Good hearted footy banter between us has been a great laugh and long may it peacefully continue.
ZEROTHEHERO1960 1 year ago 12
these men are legends. it sullys either club to attack a king with pawns.
cmydna1 1 year ago
Nice to see a page on Youtube involving United and Liverpool where both sets of fans are being civil towards each other and not denigrating the other's history. Both men were phenomenal managers.
UnitedIrelander 1 year ago
at least shankly didn't say our fans were shite like fergie did to you lot..
seafortha 1 year ago
RIP Shanks
From a Man United supporter.
jayred2k1 1 year ago 3
I wonder how Busby would have dealt with with Rooney?
kubrick767 1 year ago
i hate man u with a passion, but i respect what theyve done in the game. like us, they have an illustrious history, and that, i cant deny. y.n.w.a. l.f.c till i die!
boxpine69 1 year ago
Nice to hear some of these comments from good decent fans. I'm a liverpool fan born and bred scouser and my dads a utd fan born and bred manc ( you can imagine the banter).
Anyway I have respect for the likes of Busby, Charlton, Best and Giggs. Shame how our clubs are now ran though. One thing we as clubs have that can never be tainted or taken away is our history, and what history!
soundkidda 1 year ago 11
obviously Rafa haven't lernt Shankly´s facts, :lol:
DoctorHver 1 year ago
Epic. But what's with the unnerving Kubrick-like music? Maybe you should get rid of it as it's a little distracting.
ballsybloggers 1 year ago
Nice to see so many positive comments on here from my fellow United fans and liverpool fans. yes we may hate the crap out of each other but there will always be that little respect in our history, tradition etc.
RIP Sir Matt Busby and Bill Shankly.
iL0veManUTD 1 year ago
Two great managers two great football clubs and two great northern cities. Both blighted by tradgies, both having some scumbags fans who sing about it. Both have claims to being english sides and both are currently owned by greedy yank bastards. GOD NO WONDER WE HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH. Rip the busby babes and the 96 LUHG
busbybabesmufc 1 year ago
Two great managers two great football clubs and two great northern cities. Both blighted by tradgies, both having some scumbags fans who sing about it. Both have claims to being english sides and both are currently owned by greedy yank bastards. GOD NO WONDER WE HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH. Rip the busby babes and the 96 LUHG
busbybabesmufc 1 year ago
Two great managers two great football clubs and two great northern cities. Both blighted by tradgies, both having some scumbags fans who sing about it. Both have claims to being english sides and both are currently owned by greedy yank bastards. GOD NO WONDER WE HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH. Rip the busby babes and the 96 LUHG
busbybabesmufc 1 year ago
Two great managers two great football clubs and two great northern cities. Both blighted by tradgies, both having some scumbags fans who sing about it. Both have claims to being english sides and both are currently owned by greedy yank bastards. GOD NO WONDER WE HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH. Luhg. Rip the busby babes and the 96
busbybabesmufc 1 year ago
SIR Alex Ferguson,SIR Matt Busby....Bob Paisley,Bill Shankley----SPOT THE DIFFERENCE
CumaUnitedRoad 1 year ago
@CumaUnitedRoad three of those four either played or managed Liverpool?
CaptainOvious123 1 year ago
@CumaUnitedRoad yes 2 managed liverpool and the other 2 managed/manage the manc's
rip962pac 1 year ago
@CumaUnitedRoad
Yeah the Establishment darlings, like bending over for the Royals!! Nothing to be proud of just ashamed!! YNWA!
PoochMount18 11 months ago
SIR Matt busby,SIR alex ferguson...Bob paisley,Bill shankly----SPOT THE DIFFERENCE
CumaUnitedRoad 1 year ago
Gandhi said there's no religion higher than the truth.
nitramgnal 1 year ago
Liverpool fan here,Shanks was never biased,He spoke from the heart,even though he was talking about his closest friend and not just in football.These two had enormous respect for each other.Two giants of managers.
alslevie1986 1 year ago
I hate it when some Man U fans berate everything about Liverpool FC and likewise when LFC fans insult MUFC. Why can't we all just follow the the example of these two LEGENDARY men and have a gentleman's rivalry compared to the hooliganism we have today. To the real Man U fans, YNWA, a loyal Kopite.
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scsawwfattitude 1 year ago
I think this shows what kind of a character Shanks was and that he was humble. This is why Fergie won't be respected in the same way as Busby, Shankly, and Clough.
KOPlTEspeltwithanL 1 year ago
Scottish mangers have always been the best.
eojbhoy67 1 year ago
@eojbhoy67 true that. it's their straightforward no none sense attitude that makes them so i think.
streetstylemagic 1 year ago
He wasn't though but it was nice of shanks to say so!
facefavour 1 year ago
It is nice to see that these two great human beings, Shankly and Busby, still in their death bring people together! From a United fan!
szmako 1 year ago
Im a Liverpool Red for 46 years & I hate utd with a passion, but I respect their past & history. I totally agree with the last few posts. However, that mutual respect that TheSugar1983 talks about &
starryian007 is bang on with what they say. But thats gone. Fergusson has brought a nasty, bitter streak to the game. I know Benitez has been a p**ck as well. Bring back football, not over paid ballarinas falling over a blade of grass in the box & players with no loyalty to Our "religion"!!
IrishWidowMaker 1 year ago
What would these 2 Legends have done to the league IF they had the millions to spend managers have today??
Imagine these Gentlemen including Bob Paisley, Jock Stein, Don Revie and Brian Clough, shaping the game as we now know it..........British Teams would be untouchable.
Two honourable gentlemen, with the greatest respect for each other. Thank you for what you both did for the game
24819984 1 year ago
shankly, busby, jock stein, ferguson...the best. All Scots aswell.
peacefrog1916 1 year ago
well i am a united fan and i have to say fair play to shankly. he is no doubt up in the top 5 managers ever along with Sir Alex, Bob Paisley, Bill Shankly and Brian Clough.
I hate liverpool badly too obviously but just respect the dead, its only fair. i wouldnt dream of mocking hillsborough just like i wouldnt expect munich to be mocked.
CARPYUNITED4LIFE 2 years ago 2
At this time, football was still a "human being story"...
Zazalahyene 2 years ago 2
Well said sir,
It is something that today's game sadly lacks.
Sportsmanship, fairplay and managers that can see both sides of the coin.
If only we could get that back into sport, what a far better place football would be at.
starryian007 2 years ago 4
"Mocking Munich and Hillsborough is just unacceptable" - Agreed, I am LFC through and through, and I do not like United, but I would never ever sing about the Munich Air Disaster.
danlfc1983 2 years ago 6
Here here. As much as us red's dislike each other mocking tradigies like hilssborough and munich is just not acceptable.
MOCONKLIN 2 years ago 7
i agree totally..
i hate Liverpool but who would we have to compete with if they weren't there.?
but, still they were both great managers and men of the people.
when Shankly passed away, Matt Busby was so distraught he wouldnt take calls and couldnt dpeak about it.
2 Great Legends.. RIP
TheSugar1983 2 years ago 4
Matt Busby was a Liverpool player and captain. In today's world of LFC V MUFC hatred, that's almost completely forgotten. Even your opening comment "I hate Liverpool" proves it. Shankly rose above anyone.
scouserfourteen 1 year ago
Shankly, Paisley, Busby, Ferguson are the 4 greatest managers in British football history.
danlfc1983 2 years ago 3
@danlfc1983
Could've agreed more.
joesakic91 2 years ago
Jock Stein aswell.
NoriokoTheMagicSkunk 2 years ago
Brian Clough, Don Revie and Jock Stein should be added to that list too, but with all due respect, Ferguson would be at the foot of the list, not because of Man Utd, but he's no where near the class of the others
24819984 1 year ago
@danlfc1983 Got to add Jock Stein and Brian Clough to that list kiddo
zzzaaa09900 1 year ago
@danlfc1983 Stein, Ferguson, Busby, Shankly,and Paisley.
GlasgowCelticPat1888 1 year ago
Two legends!
danlfc1983 2 years ago
It's only fitting that the two greatest managers to have ever lived, managed the two greatest football teams in English football. Although I do find it funny how Busby played for Manchester United's rivals in his playing days (City and Liverpool)
d89gr 2 years ago
Liverpool and Manchester at this time had a healthy admiration for one another. They were both northern teams, many of them played together in the England team and often socialised together. Often the crowd would -somewhat begrudgingly - applaud a piece of skill or a skillful goal by their opponents. Can you see that happening today?
With todays game there are elements in it that are ugly and unacceptable.
I say bring back sportamanship and goodwill to all clubs.
starryian007 2 years ago 40
@starryian007 too late my friend the corporations own the game
its a business
now its millionaire A team vrs millionaire 2 team
no loyalty just money and how much can we squeeze from the blind fools
i dont follow football anymore
prefer to watch the kids play in the park thats real!
lethal1960 1 year ago
@starryian007
Totally agree with that, i have to say alex ferguson certainly doesn't help matters. Ferguson was the one who started this hatred off by saying what he did about the perch, no other united manager said such an awful thing and certainly no other liverpool manager would EVER say such a thing.
facefavour 1 year ago
@starryian007 r u fuckin jokin?
inRAFAweTRUST05 1 year ago
@starryian007 there's no "sportsmanship" in football nowadays - it's all about business !
shagrath37 1 year ago
@starryian007
Sorry but Liverpool would have been the first British club to win the European cup in 1964 if it wasn't for dodgy Italian officials this has been proven, it's debatable who planted which ever seeds! Our clubs are rivals and that's how i wish it to remain, but saying that Matt and Bill were the greats of our game!! I can't stand your club but respect the great Matt Busby.
PoochMount18 11 months ago
both legends. end of
chrisgumfa 2 years ago 2
ferguson and his ilke build teams with millions of pounds at their diposal.
Shankly and Busby, especially Shankly, built bastions of football from very little, using pride, passion honesty and bloody hard work. Things sadly lacking in todays selfish game.
davenjacqui 2 years ago 4
Two perfect gentlemen who fully deserved their success.
jexplink 2 years ago 4
any1 remember fergie was gonna be fired had we not the cup?!?! best manager in the world 2day maybe?? any1 agree?
johnbeanshoitee 2 years ago
he would have been sacked if they hadnt of beaten notts forest where would manchester united be now if he was sacked that day who knows??
dublinprovo 2 years ago
Well said Shanks and in all fairness you were a great manager yourself and like Matt Busby a very modest man.A big loss to the game when you retired suddenly after 1974 Cup Final.
BelleVue1969 2 years ago 4
They were the best of friends of friends off the pitch which is sad because you don't really see that today. Shankley had huge respect for Busby and Busby was distraught when Shanks died. Both great managers and both great men
oasismonkeyslfc 2 years ago 6
Bill Shankly said that because although they were rivals on the pitch,the two were best friends off it.
alslevie1986 2 years ago 2
fergusan will go down as a great,end of story,rafa will certainly not
Banners82 2 years ago
Like it or not,sir alex fergusan will go down as one of the greats alongside sir matt,shankly . The amount of trophies hes won at united in the last 20 odd years is amazing,He is fantastic with all managers,especailly of those of lower league clubs,the likes of benitez will never be a great manager,hes won very little at liverpool in his 6 years there,plus hes arrogant and disrespectful to many
Banners82 2 years ago
Fergusan will go down as a great his record speaks for itself but how how much did fergusan win in his first 6 years at man utd, it takes time for a manager to become great. Benitez jst needs time he has already proven he can win major titles.
mightyredsofeurope 2 years ago
fergusan will be considered a great along with matt busby and shankly,
Banners82 2 years ago
Absoulute rubbish, sir alex fergusan will go down as a great along with the likes of sir matt,and shankly, Fergusan is very respectful of fellow managers,and offers support and advise to managers all over the country,benitez will never be looked on as a great manager,for the facts that hes achieved very little at anfield,his arrogance and bitterness etc
Banners82 2 years ago
ALL HAIL KING SHANKS AND SIR MATT!!!
Without them, Liverpool FC and Manchester United FC would not have become the two most successful, greatest English clubs in the history of football!!! (greatest clubs in football, possibly)
scsawwfattitude 2 years ago 4
Can't think of a bigger honer, of being managed by Matt Busby..
utid1999 2 years ago
God bless you Shanks. Warrior poet, hero, legend. We will never see your like again.
Gerry
MUFC supporter.
roytheboy68 2 years ago 3
I love the way Bill Shankly speaks, how he accents certain words and always sounds completely passionate. He could be talking about a croquet player and I would be hooked. Very inspirational!
AlbertThistle 2 years ago
Mr Busby was a great Manager, a real gentleman, as much as i dislike MUFC he was a man of total humility. He was once asked by a reporter in the late 60's when George Best went awol would he go looking for him? Mr Busby replied: 'he knows where I am.' no one messed around with Sir Matt.
kinkkenny 2 years ago
even shanks knew it
weloveutdwedo 2 years ago
The twats from the SOS should watch this there are a joke
rafagoatee 2 years ago
rafa goatee can you explain your comments
chipster190568 2 years ago
It's a real surprise that neither Shankly nor Paisley were ever knighted.I mean,if someone had won 6 league titles and 3 European cups in today's world,they would surely get knighted,so why did this not happen at that time???
RepublikMancunia 2 years ago 6
I totally agree with you but a possible reason for shanks and paisley not being knighted could be that through the 70's, 80's and 90's football fans and those who followed it were treated like criminals by the police and the authorities so couldnt contradict themselves by knighting a figurehead of the game.
Thats my opinion why they wernt knighted anyways... good comment btw lad.
YNWA
LiverbirdLFC92 2 years ago
Bollocks to knighting, they should be canonised
efefia 2 years ago
because people get knighted for almost anything now. even being foul mouthed and arrogant
chipster190568 2 years ago
Alex Ferguson will never be remembered as a true great the way Shankly, Busby, Clough are because you'd never hear him speak about his rivals the way Shankly did. You never say Fergie praise Wenger of Benitez.
ChrisJamesMorris 2 years ago
the closest fergie's come t praisin another manager is when he said wenger had done well t stay around so long
mykeylfc 2 years ago
Actually your wrong,fergie does give credit to arsene wenger also gives credit to david moyes,jim smith,bobby robson etc.The games he plays with benitez and mourinho etc in the past, are all part of winning the modern game.There all at it.With what Sir Alex has achieved with both utd & aberdeen, he definately will be remembered as one of the , if not the best club manager in history.
mufcdarren 2 years ago 5
United fan here. Obviously I think Sir Matt is one of footballs true greats- he, in my opinion, was the man who planted the seeds for English football to dominate (European competition, managerial control over the team).
However, I also believe Shankly is another one of the few true footballing greats. A manager with a track record that stands up against ANYONE in world football, who spoke his mind, & above all, was a true football man (That hurt! Haha).
RIP Busby Babes & The 96
deejayreload 2 years ago 115
Those words you have spoken are words of a TRUE Football fan. We all can agree that these 2 men were Legends in not only their lifetime, but for the rest of Eternity. Between them, they shaped the future of Football as we know it today, and we all long for a day for the honour to return, without bringing up past disasters, events and passings of players, supporters and managers.
Lifelong LFC Fan
Rip the Busby babes and the 96
24819984 1 year ago
@deejayreload Busby...Shankly...Stein...Ferguson...what great managers scotland had..ahhh.
GlasgowCelticPat1888 1 year ago
@deejayreload
Sorry, Liverpool would have been the first British club to win the European cup if it wasn't for dodgy Italian officials in1964! Other than that Bill and Matt were greats of our game!
PoochMount18 11 months ago
@deejayreload
Sorry but Liverpool would have been the first British club to win the European cup in 1964 if it wasn't for dodgy Italian officials, it's debatable who planted which ever seeds! i take your opinion as just that, an opinion. Our clubs are rivals and that's how i wish it to remain, but saying that Matt and Bill were the greats of our game!! I can't stand your club but respect the great Matt Busby.
PoochMount18 11 months ago
im a united fan and i av 2 say fair play to shanks i thought he would have been like like benitez and disrespected a great manager!!
neiler2511 2 years ago
Benitez shows Ferguson no respect because Ferguson, despite his undoubted achievements in football is a bully and a hypocrite and deserves no respect. Busby, Shankley and Paisley were decent and honourable men and can be thought of as Greats IMO
carloslerouge 2 years ago 5
nah, paisley was the greatest, never shot down another team unlike shankly although he is still a legend
and im EFC
cosmocostanza 2 years ago 2
Even though I don't like liverpool,I gotta say that Bill Shankly was a top man for the scousers,what he and Sir Matt did for their respective clubs were tremendous
ashishmufc 2 years ago 9
heres an example of how good shankly was as a manager
imagine crewe alexandra gets a new manager he spends little amount of money on close by players then in a couple of years they win the premier league now thats what i call a fantastic manager
sadly theres so much disrespect in football it could end up killing it disrespectfull fans who sing munich lampards mum hillbrough 96 should hang themselfs
respect to livi fans and man u fans for that matter rip 96 and busby babes
cfc5jt 2 years ago 6
It's more like a new manager coming in at Newcastle and spending a decent amount of money, then them reaching the top 6. It was far easier to do improve a team back then, there was no Champions League cash turning the Top 4 into a closed shop.
MrBlack1968 2 years ago
Great video, both teams whether you like them or not have made the Premier League, the best league in the world.
Remember the 96 and the Busby Babes
Lynk4life 2 years ago 4
What a great era that was, with humility and respect between the top clubs and managers.
The schoolboy nonsense between Ferguson and Benitez only breeds more hatred between supporters.
PTS82 2 years ago 4
the reason man u exists is because of busby
he was probably the greatest manager of all time
cfc5jt 2 years ago 2
im a man united fan and i cant believe that Bill Shankley was never knighted like Sir Matt was
tezmt1 2 years ago
Its Bill Shankly mate.
Najeeb004 2 years ago
I think the best British managers post war have been:
Ferguson, Shankly, Paisley, Stein, Clough and Busby. I also have a soft spot for Bobby Robson and rated him highly as well. As a Scot I could never understand why they never made Clough the England manager. Probably due to the fact he would upset the apple cart.
sinwow33 2 years ago 4
busbys was the reason manchester united are famous he took a team from nothing to amazing
without ferguson united would be something like mid table lower
without busby
man u would be like walsall they would be nothing
thfcismylife 2 years ago 3
Sir Matt Busby was the greatest manager ever to boss United, his record speaks for itself along with team he bulit and thoroughly deserved his knighthood. I have no liking for United but I have respect. Mocking Munich and Hillsborough is just unacceptable, I may be Liverpool through and through but.I give credit where credit is due.
R.I.P to the 96 and the Busby Babes
Respect and mourn together
MikeLFC1892 2 years ago 2
Busby
Shankly
Stein
Legends!
goffcfc 2 years ago
Nicely put Carl, couldn't agree more and I'm LFC myself.
LovelyBill 2 years ago
Little did Shankly knwo that during Busbys days as a Liverpool player he groomed Bob Paisley who went on to dethrone Matt as the greatest.
TheShanklyGates 2 years ago
Well done Shankly
utd009 2 years ago 2
ah, when Liverpool managers had class and wit
SharpeyCol 2 years ago
When Liverpool managers had class....
SusMedicosCPlastica 2 years ago
I am a liverpool supporter but i will say Matt Busby is probably the greatest manager ever. Not only did he build his team up once when he frist started- but twice- after all the trauma of the munich air disaster- then go on to win the leauge twice, the FA cup AND the euorpean cup! Sir Matt- you are the only manager i agree with to have been knighted. I may be a koppite. I may not like man u. But i give credit where its due.
But remember not only did he play for liverpool, ha captained us too!
oasismonkeyslfc 2 years ago 5
good comment man
utd009 2 years ago
N My Great Uncle :) Evan Tho I Hate Man 2 2 Guts Cmon Arsenal But Gr8 Man So Says My Family
Laydeeeheva 2 years ago
fantastic listenin
thank you for that
iseeredpeoples 2 years ago
Rafael Benitez take note.
wungabunga 2 years ago
Compelling man to listen to and rightfully shows respect for Busby but he was wrong only about one thing - HE is the greatest!
dixiepaisley 2 years ago
shankly and busby the 2 greatest managers ever
larney1234 2 years ago
Stein was at least there equal, and they were all the best of friends
sirjock 2 years ago 6
A great posting thanks. Matt Busby came to give out the awards to our (liverpool school) sports day in the early eighties - I couldn't believe it - everyone was a bit in awe of him.
barrylovesbrownsauce 2 years ago
ah a hatred for mancs but a respect for mancs thats what i like great team but full of wankers Y.N.W.A.
kennethchester18 2 years ago
At Man United, there isn't a player who you think: 'God, I f******* hate him. They're all good lads" - Jamie Carragher
MrBlack1968 2 years ago 8
the great man was right, total respect about the great sir matt, wot an upload- INCREASE THE PEACE
phayze4 2 years ago 3
Shankly Knew
thisclubsareligion 2 years ago
One thing that really strikes me about listening to old recordings of The Great Bill Shankly is how articulate he was.
For an uneducated man - and I mean this with the greatest respect - he was an incredible communicator.
When he talked - you listened !!
And that's probably the reason why he was such a successful man manager.
He knew how to spot a player too........
ivor333 2 years ago 6
This statement by Shanks illustrates the deterioration in society, where individualisation and aspiration to affluence and success at any expense has developed to the point of total disregard for anything or one.
Busby, Shankly and Paisley were brought up in the era of real hardship where comradeship and friendship were real in the game.
The impact of modernity has created a very negative world where competition is cuthroat. They were the greats as where the times, pity money took over!
mikemidge 2 years ago 5
How times have changed, Shankley never got out a piece of paper and ranted incoherently at a press conference about anybody...
ScousersAreShemales 2 years ago
Busby the greatest manager britain ever seen, even Fifa and uefa recognised this .. what he did was remarkable!!
For ever and ever, we follow the boys, of man united the busy babes!
""UNITED WILL RISE AGAIN""
(Harold Hardman charimain 1951-65)
R.I.P. BABES
sarj316 3 years ago 5
Mr Bill Shankly
A true Gentleman. Much Respect and love from this football fan. I looked to you like another father.
srtrac 3 years ago 3
They were both amazing in their own rights... they should be revered with the same respect they showed each other.
Ridiculous how offensive managers are to each other these days i.e. Wenger, Ferguson, Mourinho
Nice to see people like Scolari coming into the English game and displaying outright respect for his fellow pro's.
RIP Shanks and Busby
mossga 3 years ago 5
Hear Hear
RogueTrader101 3 years ago
shankley is the best manager that ever lived.
coz he was a grounds man with no millions brought a team of local lads to the top level.
in a messed up training game, fergie and busby are good but not as good as shankley.
he once said;"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."
fergie has his millions shankly had his penny's and shillings.
liverpool then came englands top team.
larney1234 3 years ago 2
Yeh, but did Shankly have to deal with losing half his championship winning team in a plane crash?
And then rebuild his team again and win the league twice, FA cup and european cup?
Or his football ground being bombed?
Or being read his last rights twice, and then recovering and continuing with managing?
No.
mikeroper91 3 years ago 3
Busby was a Liverpool man.
duncabbin 3 years ago
Clough had two second division teams, took one of them to the title, and the other to consecutive European Cups.
Sir Alex Ferguson took a team from near the relegation zone to the pinnacle of English football.
Jock Stein won the Quadruple with a team of local lads.
Paisley won 3 European Cups
Saachi revolutionised football tactically.
To say Shankly is the greatest shows ignorance and disrespect to these other greats. Spelling his name "Shankley" disrespects him.
MrBlack1968 2 years ago
also shanks never won the european cup matt busby did. the players busby brought up ie best , edwards , charlton , stiles , coleman , pegg etc etc where better than the ones shanks brought up.
david123451988 3 years ago
matt busby in the greatest manager of all time even shankly admits it. firstly he brough through the finest young players ever creating the team of the centuary. then rebuilding a shattered team to win the european cup and various other things
david123451988 3 years ago
Yes because he learnt from Shanks, he was Liverpool Captain as a player as well.
duncabbin 3 years ago
with me being a kopite, i like the rivallry between man utd & ourselves but hate all the sick comments about munich, hillsborough etc that u often find on youtube & other sites. as 'slater 071' says, matt busby was our captain throughout the 1930's & was at the club 4 a long time. i'm only 28 but hate the uneducated idiots who probably werent even around 20 yrs ago, that make sick comments about shanks & sir matt. dont get me wrong, i dont like man utd but i'll give credit where it's due.
kezncurt 3 years ago 7
Well its nice to see your attitude. The Munich and Hillsborough comments sicken me, it goes way beyond football rivalry.
mysteryninja 3 years ago
Absolutley its disgracefull what some knobheads write about the munich disaster and hillsborough.what makes me laugh though is how this is video is all about how much respect two rival managers have for eachother and then people come on saying aw he's shit or hes a blox!completley missing the point of the video!
TravelingZeppelins 2 years ago 9
The two were great great friends... It's very ironic really... Considering the hatred going on today... You wonder is it necessary really. Banter is always good... But the true hatred?
It's amazing the amount of people who don't realise that Busby played for Liverpool!
RIP Shanks,
YNWA
rashersmark 3 years ago 2
He didnt just play for Liverpool, he captained the side. Man Utd fans either dont know or conveniently forget this.
duncabbin 3 years ago 2
@rashersmark you're right, no need for the hatred
sugarybiscuits 1 year ago
I'm a Liverpool fan and I agree with 123aidankirrane321. There will never again be another Shankly or Busby. Give either one of them the time and money that Sir Alex has and there's no end to what they could have done for both clubs. (LFC 4 the PREM- 2008/2009)
scsawwfattitude 3 years ago 3
The thing is that Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and Sir Matt Busby all had tremendous respect for each other and Sir Alex and King Kenny Dalglish used to openly cuss each other on the pitch when Liverpool and Manchester United went head to head back in the day. (I'm a Liverpool fan. LFC 4 the PREM- 2008/2009)
scsawwfattitude 3 years ago 2
You know the reason for that maybe the fact that the rivalry b/w the two clubs has intensified a lot since the late 80's
vmo87 3 years ago
I am a manchester united fan and i think the bill shankley and matt busby are the greatest managers of all time !!!
but i do think that if the munich air didsaster never happend i think that matt busby would be the greatest manager ever without any doubt.
123aidankirrane321 3 years ago 3
Matt Busby..Liverpool's best captain in 1930's
Bill Shankly was being incredibly modest here..as he tends to be when speaking of other people he respects. Busby took over Man U who were in the top flight and had a great youth academy...Shankly took over "the biggest toilet in Liverpool" who were in the 2nd division with journeyman players..and laid all the foundations that made them the best team in Europe...Busby left United in a shambles.
Slater071 3 years ago 2
Munich air crash?
To lose what many consider to have been the most talented young side in Europe and then to go on and win the european cup a few years later - developing the holy trinity of Best, Law and Charlton.
Thats why Busby is a genius, and thats why i cannot stand people who say he took over a top flight side when he had to deal with far more than many other managers.
But, i have to respect Shankly also because he is certainly one of the two greats of all time - the other being Busby.
aint18 3 years ago
Harsh....Anfield may have been the biggest toilet in liverpool but United had a huge overdraft at the bank and didnt even have a ground when Busby took over! And he may have inherited a good team in the 40s but he still had to rebuild it twice, in the 50s and again in the 60s with fantastic success both times.
They were both great managers and great men, the like of which will never be seen again.
PTS82 2 years ago
I'm no fan of Utd but you don't get greater than these two.
mcs1hr 3 years ago
2 great managers of the game it also sad to think how many european cups man utd could of won if had not been for munich!
thses 2 managers lead the way for success for both clubs and legends they will always be
paul2008uk 3 years ago 2
Although I don't particularly like Liverpool Football Club, If Matt Busby and Bill Shankly can respect each other, then we as fans should be able to drop the Munich and Hillsborough stuff. Women and children died at Hillsborough and it's not funny, families suffered after Munich and that isn't funny either.
R.I.P. To all 96 Hillsborough victims
R.I.P. To the Busby Babes and everyone who died in the Munich Air Disaster.
Mocking the dead is wank.
From a United fan.
ScarvesForUnited 3 years ago 19
You know pal, I am a die hard liverpool fan and i don't like Utd in the way you don't like your rivals but what you said is spot on. We as clubs are great clubs with great history maybe why we are such rivals but to mock the dead in any way is wrong. Life is far to important for fans to shout and abuse as people are still suffering with what has happened.
Respect to you for this post. P.S i still want to beat you to the title though. haha
hmsmuller81 3 years ago 6
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ScarvesForUnited 3 years ago
Bit of the opposite wasnt it mate haha?
not came on here for all the banter though. Liverpool and United are two of the worlds most succesful teams both having there share of incredible players and managers. Shankly, Paisley then there is Busby and Ferguson. Dalglish to Gerrard, Best to Ronaldo. Im a die hard Liverpool fan, but there is no way of dividing both teams' success.
SomeScouser 2 years ago
i admire your courage for speaking out like this but as long as there are idiots going to both anfield and old trafford it will never happen from a liverpool fan
titch69p 3 years ago
well said mate. wish there were more fans with our attitude to football. from a kopite.
kezncurt 3 years ago
I dont like United...but in my mind Sir Matt Busby was a great man, as well as being a great manager.
Like I said..I have no liking for United but I have respect. Mocking Munich and Hillsborough is just plain wrong.
RIP to the 96 and the Busby Babes
From a Liverpool fan
CarlLH41 2 years ago 41
Shankly was the greatest.
ashalpool 3 years ago
SHANKLY KNEW!
CartoonheadzReturnz 3 years ago
MUFC fan here. This should be SIR Bill Shankly talking about SIR Matt Busby.
And super Bob Paisley should have been made a Knight too.
jcrezonna 3 years ago 6
Shankly was legendary without him paisley wouldn't have won the league as much times.
phoenixwrightxd 3 years ago
Sir Matt Busby possibly was the greatest manager of all time. Coming in after the war to build a great side only for it to perish in Munich. 10 years later he built another great side and the rest is history. He won 5 League titles, 2 FA Cup's and of course our first European Cup back in 68.
Shankly was also a great manager taking Liverpool from the second division right to the top. He left Bob Paisley a great team.
MUFC THE RELIGION
MUFCECFCJake10 3 years ago
A great man talking about a great man. Two of Scotland and Britain's finest managers, there can be no doubts.
Certain "so called" fans of both clubs could learn a thing or two from these men. Respect and decency.
Scottmachin 3 years ago 2
Fair play to you and I never thought I'd say that to a Man U Fan :)
I agree with you 100%.
BearRyan 3 years ago
Sometimes Shanks was wrong though. ;)
Shanks was the best for me though.
BearRyan 3 years ago
only a legend of the stature of Shanks could possibly say something like that and actually have it mean something. Others can only pay lip service...
D7G8T9 3 years ago
Dont forget that Matt Busby was a great Liverpool player.
lesterfontaine 3 years ago 3
not only was he a liverpool player but we was once a captian for lfc
tagasalog 3 years ago 2
i have never really thought of any manchester united manager being great. i hate manchester united but if shanks says it, it must be true, but i think he is being modest because he is the best manager then matt busby. one question and one only why was busby and fergerson knighted and shankley and paisley werent? confusing question of life.
callumkenno 3 years ago
ferguson is great and busby was.what a daft thing to say you never thought any man u manager was great.look what they both did.
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