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It looks like the tow-plane came from beneath him in an extreme climb, dangling the rope or cable behind it. That snagged his prop and pulled him uncontrollably. The cable may have remained wrapped around his plane, or damaged control surfaces, etc. An inflight camera is very helpful for analyzing what happened. More of us pilots should utilize them. Don't know if there was actually a glider in-tow or not...
So what we are saying is....rather then gliding his plane to a safe landing which is what every pilot is trained to do....this guy just pulls the parachute and floats uncontrolled down towards the ground and wrecks his plane. Potentially he could have ended up hitting people on the ground!
Maybe soon they will change the way pilots do engine failures......Engine stops flying - Eject parachute and prey you don't kill someone in the houses next to the airfield you could have glided to and landed!?
@jayc004 - The reporter says "he was dropping like a stone". The reason? The cable snared his prop pulling his plane nose up slowing his plane to the stall speed or less. Notice his altitude before this happened? His plane lost it's "forward" air speed and was sliding, maybe even backwards for a moment, who knows. Anywho, the plane wasn't gliding forward enough to pilot the aircraft dead stick, obviously.
This indecent seems to be a perfect example for the parachutes need.
yea! we know who should give way etc but that could have been some bodies death or even both .it was good they all walked away unhurt .and the guy still got his plane in one piece.
@Vertdesir Doesn't matter about who was to the right in this one, you have to remember as well that a powered heavier than air aircraft has to give way to a powered heavier than air aircraft towing a glider. :) But yes, if it was a regular 2 planes that statement would be correct.
What a bad reporter! No one is hurt. This could happen every day, so what? And by the way: The ULM had to give way to the DR400 because it came from the right. And every pilot knows: Watch the airspace at every moment carefully!
I'm just wondering if a more active scan would have prevented this. Also, that would be something of interest to me flying in and around the airport vicinity-the fact that glider operations occur at this facility-
The tow ropes are attached to the tug via a "weak link". The rope would undoubtedly have broken off when given a shock like this, so the tug pilot would have been OK and will have felt little more than a jolt as the rope detached.
@dcd2b No it's always used. It would be insane to omit it. You need the rope to break in a predicable place - you can't do that by making the entire rope weak. They've been used for decades.
What happened to the poor schmuck towing the glider, and what happened to the poor schmuck FLYING the glider? Bet they didn't have parachutes. This dope really blew it.
When the plane goes down we can see an airstrip nearby. So close to an airstrip one has to be on double alertness. That and, almost certainly, a communications error of one or both the aircraft involved must've been the initial error of the chain.
Anyway, pulling UP was, definitely, NOT a good idea, I'm sure he didn't saw the cable, but the natural reaction should be to pull away as much as possible from the other plane's path, that is, DOWN. (and right, per the rules)
When the plane goes down we can see an airstrip nearby. So close to an airstrip one has to be on double alertness. That and, almost certainly, a communications error of one or both the aircraft involved must've been the initial error of the chain.
Anyway, pulling UP was, definitely, NOT a good idea, I'm sure he didn't saw the cable, but the natural reaction should be to pull away as much as possible from the other plane's path, that is, DOWN.
Pilot error... Not looking where you are going.... The plane with the parachute had to give way to the other aircraft for two reasons.. The other aircraft had the right of way and the other air craft was towing.... Just because you have a parachute does not relief you of your responsibility of situational awareness...
@manny298 Well done, you are so right...in fact I am shocked that this fool hasnt been prosecuted for a blatant breach of air rules. Aircraft towing gliders have right of way..the idiot obviously wasnt even keeping a roving eye. I hope he takes stick of his stupidity and never flies again, the dangerous old sod!
the pilot was not scanning the airspace a he should have been.the accident was all his fault.i hope after review by the authorities,his license was revoked.
@liamtnelson the cable would have fucked the wing i think, probably lost control surfaces or maybe there were just no fields suitable to survive in lol
I had one of these chutes in my Hi-Max I spent hours on the ground practicing pulling it's handle so I could find it blindfolded. I never did have to pull that handle!
Unfortunately the people I sold the plane to should have pulled it...
NICE ! That's the way Ya do it ! He surpressed the urge to "PANIC", and "Emergency Training" and quick thinking "kicked IN". Much Adrenaline can do that ! An excellent demonstration of "Engineering" combined with "Excellent" PILOT skills ! WELL PLAYED !
@ROYALstraightFLUSH22 that doesn't look like a cessna at all. it looks more like an experimental two seater or a piper j-3 cub. and almost any aircraft can be installed with a ballistic parachute
I've flown into airports with glider operations before, incredibly they used a different radio frequency from the unicom frequency which I think is just dumb.
I guess even if the towing wire was damaged, which I can't imagine, the glider had enough height to gain speed for an emergency landing anyways. The pilot of the propelled plane was lucky that he didn't hit the glideplane!
Also, when flying under VFR, you got to take caution for things like this..
@borge947 I don't think he would have been able to see the aircraft ascending from the passenger side. The pilot ascending is the one at fault. He should have been able to see the other aircraft he was ascending towards.
It was an example of chaine of events: the ulm's were two approaching Gap Tallarade; the first did radio com in france language but did not reported the second ulm; the second pilot was german and did not umderstand french so was sure he was safe as he was supposing the first announced him too. The tow pilot heard radio com reporting one approaching, saw it and climbed right behind his tail, crossing the route of the german. At the impact of the cable, the glider released and turned right to th
i want one for my 150. as for that tow plane, i wonder who was nordo? because i beleve icao calls for all tow aircraft to be functionaly equiped with comunication ???
@derfettemoechtegern It's a german pilot and he's not only german , he's an asshole too: he should have avoided the tow plane coming from the right (priority) and to try to avoid the collision he pulls up in the direction of the other plane!!!
There is only one word to describe this pilot & I am afraid it's not polite......! I would say the same about myself if I was stupid enough to do the same..... Twat!
nope those chutes are great. at his altitude he would have had very little time to find a clear spot to put down.
this happens a lot in conjested space with no radios in use. Unless you fly a lot, you have no idea how hard it is to see other planes in the air. When they are below you they blend into the terrain, above you specs. Once you notice them, it is hard to determine heading and altitude. lucky all he had a chute. like cirrus says... chute happens....
You know an emergency landing would have saved the plane...That's what pilots train for. I think there could be more injuries and/or damage with a stupid parachute!
Just before the crash, the tow plane pilot saw the second ULM and tried to avoid the crash. Thats why we can see it in a strong turn. The sailplane also saw the ULM and released the tow rope just before the crash. The ULM pilot did not saw anything as we can see that he does not try to avoid the aircraft.
There was in fact two ULMs(ultra light aircrafts)coming from Bourg-en-Bresse and going to Gap. This video has been shot from the second one. Before the flight the two ULM pilots decided to flight together, in order that only the first pilot communicates through the radio. Approaching the Gap airfield, the first pilot announced its position but does not say that there are two ULMs. After the flight, the tow plane pilot reported that he received the message and saw the ULM (but only the first one)
This crash happened the 29th july 2006 near Gap Tallard airfield (France). This region has an important traffic of glider, parachutists, aircraft especially during summer.
It takes a TON of money to certify any new part for any certified type of aircraft, mostly for litigation purposes since the early 1980's.
This is why "Experimental" type airplanes have become popluar (new Experimental outsell certified something like 4 to 1) The owner can install a Dynon Skyview system (youtube it, it's cool) or a ballistic chute which has no TSO (needed for certified airplanes) but is technologically superior to older certified equipment, with no bureaucratic restrictions.
@bitemysausage, he'd possibly let go of the cable prior to the accident, had he still been attached I'm pretty sure he'd have got a mention in the report.
Both of them were fucking idiots, they should have been watching for traffic. As for the parachutes, they aren't as useful as the media says they are especially on Cirrus's. Cirus added a chute because the plane was structurally unsound and they wanted to meet FAA requirements with out designing a new plane. They desend at a rate of 1200 ft per minute, which compresses and even paralizes any passangers. Thus, cirrus's=death traps.
Cirrus did not add the chute because the plane was structurally unsound. They added it as a last resort safety measure. You dont pull the chute when you have an engine failure with plenty of suitable fields around nor over water. However, inadvertent IFR in mountanous terrain, or serious structural failures, or entering an unrecoverable spin are great scenarios in which the chute is a fantastic option. Granted, its equivalant to being dropped from a height of ten feet, its better than nothing.
The parachute saved this guy from his inept piloting skills, but he could have injured or killed others for failing to watch for other aircraft in the vicinity. Hopefully he got himself enough adrenaline to move on to a hobby that would be less hazardous to himself and others.
He should have noticed the other aircraft as well as give way to it. Not only do you give way to converging traffic on your right, but also an aircraft towing a glider has right of way.
L'avion n'est pas un cessna mais un ulm... le remorqueur a tjs la priorité... de plus, l'ulm n'etait pas en contact radio! (un branleur comme pilote et qui devrait ce faire tout petit au lieu de passer a la CNN!!) Terrain: gap et c'est tres fréquenté! sinon pas bcp de champs au alentour de la collision et la machine n'avait qu'un saumon abimé, bref, presque rien... machine sauvée.
@sebcoolweb c'est pas "passer à CNN" c'est de la pub pour le parachute qui reprend une actualité CNN … faut pas s'imaginer que c'est gratuit le web !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…
Le parachute de secours pyrotechnique est très couramment installé sur les ulm et même obligatoire dans certains pays, ça vaut ~3000euros installé sur un biplace...
@Georges99a ouin mais c'est un peu poussé faut l'avouer le pilote du remorqueur a certainement vu le cessna et il a quand même passé juste devant. C'est un peu tiré par les cheveux chui sür qui a fait sa juste pour passer a CNN lol
La priorité est donnée à une appareil en remorquage avant celle d'un autre avion. et celà pour n'importe quelle direction. Donc, en tout temps, la priorité est donnée à l'avion en remorquage.
this guy was alone and filming.the the glider which have seen him get out pulling out the rope and the plane towing him tried to climb quickly(the rope was not in tension)
Imbéciles. Y sont juste 2 dans l'immensité du ciel pi y trouvent moyen de se rentrer dedans . Estis de cons.
TheAeroporc 2 days ago
" captain franko to ground control. ,, not to worry you too excessively my good chap but I do believe I have a bloody rope in my propellor"
fendertelecaster8225 1 week ago 2
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Roger Franko - Sounds like time to hit the Silk old Bean.
See you at the club for Tea & bickies.
Pip. Pip. Tallyho.
Ground control out.
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adminleforumdesulm 2 weeks ago
@TheMeslava No! There is no glider left so they are at the same level of giving way.
Vertdesir 2 weeks ago
@jcinwll26 Yep, but there is no glider at the end.
Vertdesir 2 weeks ago
2 Germans abroad. What do they do? They bump into each other. Probably one was watching the other for his state. And vice versa.
wwwtotalitaerde 3 weeks ago
The aircraft appears UNDAMAGED except the propeller.
Why not simply recover from the stall and glide down in a controlled way?
whosaidyoucandance 3 weeks ago
@whosaidyoucandance ........agree 100%
peacewavenow 1 week ago
It looks like the tow-plane came from beneath him in an extreme climb, dangling the rope or cable behind it. That snagged his prop and pulled him uncontrollably. The cable may have remained wrapped around his plane, or damaged control surfaces, etc. An inflight camera is very helpful for analyzing what happened. More of us pilots should utilize them. Don't know if there was actually a glider in-tow or not...
ksarkey 3 weeks ago
So what we are saying is....rather then gliding his plane to a safe landing which is what every pilot is trained to do....this guy just pulls the parachute and floats uncontrolled down towards the ground and wrecks his plane. Potentially he could have ended up hitting people on the ground!
Maybe soon they will change the way pilots do engine failures......Engine stops flying - Eject parachute and prey you don't kill someone in the houses next to the airfield you could have glided to and landed!?
jayc004 3 weeks ago
@jayc004 - The reporter says "he was dropping like a stone". The reason? The cable snared his prop pulling his plane nose up slowing his plane to the stall speed or less. Notice his altitude before this happened? His plane lost it's "forward" air speed and was sliding, maybe even backwards for a moment, who knows. Anywho, the plane wasn't gliding forward enough to pilot the aircraft dead stick, obviously.
This indecent seems to be a perfect example for the parachutes need.
SatanStartedIslam 3 weeks ago
I've got to add, radio contact for traffic in your area is a good thing only if there being used.
SatanStartedIslam 3 weeks ago
yea! we know who should give way etc but that could have been some bodies death or even both .it was good they all walked away unhurt .and the guy still got his plane in one piece.
Taildragger2411 3 weeks ago
@Vertdesir Doesn't matter about who was to the right in this one, you have to remember as well that a powered heavier than air aircraft has to give way to a powered heavier than air aircraft towing a glider. :) But yes, if it was a regular 2 planes that statement would be correct.
TheMeslava 1 month ago
I've often said its a shame commercial jet flights coultn have these.
glennjridge 1 month ago
So they staged a crash just to demonstrate the parachute?A bit dangerous, I would have thought.
Holliethedog 1 month ago
@Holliethedog I'm a bit sure that was raw footage from his flight.
WorthWatchingVv 1 month ago
somebody wasnt looking.
andgate2000 1 month ago
What a bad reporter! No one is hurt. This could happen every day, so what? And by the way: The ULM had to give way to the DR400 because it came from the right. And every pilot knows: Watch the airspace at every moment carefully!
Vertdesir 2 months ago 6
@Vertdesir and it looked like it was towing a glider. otherwise, what was the rope for?
WorthWatchingVv 1 month ago
@Vertdesir I thought you would have to give way to an aircraft towing a glider.
jconell26 2 weeks ago
German survive anything xP
FiZziGames 2 months ago
pull down
prokysoft 2 months ago
I'm just wondering if a more active scan would have prevented this. Also, that would be something of interest to me flying in and around the airport vicinity-the fact that glider operations occur at this facility-
stixie211 2 months ago
The tow ropes are attached to the tug via a "weak link". The rope would undoubtedly have broken off when given a shock like this, so the tug pilot would have been OK and will have felt little more than a jolt as the rope detached.
nmg196 2 months ago
@nmg196 I think the "weak link" is only required if the breaking strength is greater than some TBD limit...
dcd2b 2 weeks ago
@dcd2b No it's always used. It would be insane to omit it. You need the rope to break in a predicable place - you can't do that by making the entire rope weak. They've been used for decades.
nmg196 2 weeks ago
@nmg196
See 14 CFR part 91 section 91.309 - Weak link is only required when tow rope breaking strength is outside 80% to 200% the gliders operating weight.
dcd2b 2 weeks ago
mouais... c'est un ulm qu'a essayé de se poser quoi...
pippin1664 3 months ago
What happened to the poor schmuck towing the glider, and what happened to the poor schmuck FLYING the glider? Bet they didn't have parachutes. This dope really blew it.
mouthyweasel 3 months ago
@mouthyweasel
gliderpilots have parachutes but i dont know what happened to the towpilot
XCHUSKYXC 2 months ago
When the plane goes down we can see an airstrip nearby. So close to an airstrip one has to be on double alertness. That and, almost certainly, a communications error of one or both the aircraft involved must've been the initial error of the chain.
Anyway, pulling UP was, definitely, NOT a good idea, I'm sure he didn't saw the cable, but the natural reaction should be to pull away as much as possible from the other plane's path, that is, DOWN. (and right, per the rules)
jbranco9999 4 months ago
When the plane goes down we can see an airstrip nearby. So close to an airstrip one has to be on double alertness. That and, almost certainly, a communications error of one or both the aircraft involved must've been the initial error of the chain.
Anyway, pulling UP was, definitely, NOT a good idea, I'm sure he didn't saw the cable, but the natural reaction should be to pull away as much as possible from the other plane's path, that is, DOWN.
jbranco9999 4 months ago
OMG why did this pilot climb instead of descending? I do not think this guy should be flying....
manny298 4 months ago
Pilot error... Not looking where you are going.... The plane with the parachute had to give way to the other aircraft for two reasons.. The other aircraft had the right of way and the other air craft was towing.... Just because you have a parachute does not relief you of your responsibility of situational awareness...
manny298 4 months ago
@manny298 Well done, you are so right...in fact I am shocked that this fool hasnt been prosecuted for a blatant breach of air rules. Aircraft towing gliders have right of way..the idiot obviously wasnt even keeping a roving eye. I hope he takes stick of his stupidity and never flies again, the dangerous old sod!
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leforumdesulm 5 months ago
Glad I'm not the guy in the glider...
36paperairplanes 6 months ago
@36paperairplanes
The tractor airplane (a Robin DR400) was without glider at the cable (return to terrain after glider launching)
oiseautempete 3 months ago
the pilot was not scanning the airspace a he should have been.the accident was all his fault.i hope after review by the authorities,his license was revoked.
omnipilot 6 months ago
@liamtnelson the cable would have fucked the wing i think, probably lost control surfaces or maybe there were just no fields suitable to survive in lol
TheWhiteOwl23 6 months ago
once you pull the parachute it stresses the airframe and even if the damage is minor by law the airplane has to be scrapped.
nibbler125 7 months ago
I had one of these chutes in my Hi-Max I spent hours on the ground practicing pulling it's handle so I could find it blindfolded. I never did have to pull that handle!
Unfortunately the people I sold the plane to should have pulled it...
paulvolio 7 months ago
@paulvolio
What happened ?
lizkor1983 6 months ago
@lizkor1983
Search for "Mom crashes ultralight" here on youtube.
paulvolio 6 months ago
What happened to the glider?
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leforumdesulm 8 months ago
NICE ! That's the way Ya do it ! He surpressed the urge to "PANIC", and "Emergency Training" and quick thinking "kicked IN". Much Adrenaline can do that ! An excellent demonstration of "Engineering" combined with "Excellent" PILOT skills ! WELL PLAYED !
justanotherengine 8 months ago
Scary situation. Well done by the pilot. Very fortunate to have one of those parachutes.
kolbpilot 9 months ago
they should make commercial passenger jets standardize aircraft parachute equipment!
marlo1204 9 months ago
Clever idea...
712maggot 9 months ago
Personally I would have landed it!!
meccabumbleswan 9 months ago
that vid looks like a cessna, i thought only cirrus make in-built parachutes
ROYALstraightFLUSH22 10 months ago
@ROYALstraightFLUSH22 that doesn't look like a cessna at all. it looks more like an experimental two seater or a piper j-3 cub. and almost any aircraft can be installed with a ballistic parachute
AzamatBagatov2 9 months ago
@ROYALstraightFLUSH22 Not a Cessna.
toutatis12 7 months ago
@toutatis12 i am aware of that. another person pointed that out to me. thanks anyway.
but it does LOOK like a cessna
ROYALstraightFLUSH22 7 months ago
what a good idea ! … why didn't I think of it.
I love the quiet german accent too … "a lot of adrenalin".
nice
what happened to the other plane and the glider ?…
vincent7520 10 months ago
imagine a A380 with a parachute o.O
Smoothylanding 10 months ago
@Smoothylanding DAAAAAMN that would be huge..
MisterAviate 10 months ago
you would think the glider rope would break..
sailesh2001 10 months ago
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leforumdesulm 11 months ago
I've flown into airports with glider operations before, incredibly they used a different radio frequency from the unicom frequency which I think is just dumb.
Billofthenorth1 11 months ago
this makes you wonder why this is not been used on planes since day 1
paulhunter123 11 months ago
It's bad if those deploy on takeoff, like in that ultralight video on here..
randommagnum 11 months ago
Et moi qui croyais que les parachutes pour avions n'existaient que pour freiner les vieux avions de chasses Russes mdr
Tommy7338 11 months ago
I guess even if the towing wire was damaged, which I can't imagine, the glider had enough height to gain speed for an emergency landing anyways. The pilot of the propelled plane was lucky that he didn't hit the glideplane!
Also, when flying under VFR, you got to take caution for things like this..
borge947 1 year ago
@borge947 I don't think he would have been able to see the aircraft ascending from the passenger side. The pilot ascending is the one at fault. He should have been able to see the other aircraft he was ascending towards.
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leforumdesulm 1 year ago
How about glider and its pilot?
MontgomeryBL 1 year ago
@MontgomeryBL he got fucked for no apparent reason lol :)
vishwasrahul 11 months ago
It was an example of chaine of events: the ulm's were two approaching Gap Tallarade; the first did radio com in france language but did not reported the second ulm; the second pilot was german and did not umderstand french so was sure he was safe as he was supposing the first announced him too. The tow pilot heard radio com reporting one approaching, saw it and climbed right behind his tail, crossing the route of the german. At the impact of the cable, the glider released and turned right to th
relavo 1 year ago
funny people talking about priority, yes the tow plane has it. But the plane didnt see it, its not like he went straight for the tow plane.
skat0r 1 year ago
every airplane should have this !!
i want one for my 150. as for that tow plane, i wonder who was nordo? because i beleve icao calls for all tow aircraft to be functionaly equiped with comunication ???
airmotojh 1 year ago
like i said french cant fly ;D
derfettemoechtegern 1 year ago
@derfettemoechtegern It's a german pilot and he's not only german , he's an asshole too: he should have avoided the tow plane coming from the right (priority) and to try to avoid the collision he pulls up in the direction of the other plane!!!
proudbelgian 1 year ago
@proudbelgian
yeah probably
but french people still can't fly :D
derfettemoechtegern 1 year ago
@derfettemoechtegern And they can't make good planes (GO BOEING)
AUDI80ROBLOX 1 year ago
There is only one word to describe this pilot & I am afraid it's not polite......! I would say the same about myself if I was stupid enough to do the same..... Twat!
austerace 1 year ago
I never knew there was so many aviation experts on Youtube!
Check out the comments!
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TheJapanChannelDcom 1 year ago
ALL airplanes need these- they need to be MANDATORY,
ALONG WITH RESERVE chute as well
tippitytop1 1 year ago
FAA, before more people die, make this parachute mandatory...you are trying to save cost over human life.
lavakava 1 year ago
nope those chutes are great. at his altitude he would have had very little time to find a clear spot to put down.
this happens a lot in conjested space with no radios in use. Unless you fly a lot, you have no idea how hard it is to see other planes in the air. When they are below you they blend into the terrain, above you specs. Once you notice them, it is hard to determine heading and altitude. lucky all he had a chute. like cirrus says... chute happens....
findyouahome 1 year ago
Lose your life because of an inconcious tower pilot ... Such a collision seems so unlikely !!
simusfr 1 year ago
simusfr, there are no towers at uncontrolled airports in a class E type of airspace.
tigerswede3 1 year ago
@tigerswede3 Well I don't mean a control tower, but a towing plane !
simusfr 1 year ago
You know an emergency landing would have saved the plane...That's what pilots train for. I think there could be more injuries and/or damage with a stupid parachute!
bpbat21 1 year ago
Just before the crash, the tow plane pilot saw the second ULM and tried to avoid the crash. Thats why we can see it in a strong turn. The sailplane also saw the ULM and released the tow rope just before the crash. The ULM pilot did not saw anything as we can see that he does not try to avoid the aircraft.
boboriso84 2 years ago
There was in fact two ULMs(ultra light aircrafts)coming from Bourg-en-Bresse and going to Gap. This video has been shot from the second one. Before the flight the two ULM pilots decided to flight together, in order that only the first pilot communicates through the radio. Approaching the Gap airfield, the first pilot announced its position but does not say that there are two ULMs. After the flight, the tow plane pilot reported that he received the message and saw the ULM (but only the first one)
boboriso84 2 years ago
This crash happened the 29th july 2006 near Gap Tallard airfield (France). This region has an important traffic of glider, parachutists, aircraft especially during summer.
boboriso84 2 years ago
Why are the authorities so reluctant to allow these chutes?
godfree689 2 years ago
It takes a TON of money to certify any new part for any certified type of aircraft, mostly for litigation purposes since the early 1980's.
This is why "Experimental" type airplanes have become popluar (new Experimental outsell certified something like 4 to 1) The owner can install a Dynon Skyview system (youtube it, it's cool) or a ballistic chute which has no TSO (needed for certified airplanes) but is technologically superior to older certified equipment, with no bureaucratic restrictions.
jwboll 2 years ago
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FUCKING GLIDER
bitemysausage 2 years ago 2
@bitemysausage, he'd possibly let go of the cable prior to the accident, had he still been attached I'm pretty sure he'd have got a mention in the report.
pete2778 1 year ago
It was definitely a towing rope for a glider, but the glider was already release before that
paablogr 2 years ago
Doh!
Whenever you have a mid-air you just stop and look.........
All that sky and yet you two guys occupied the same space at the same time............
flanksteak2 2 years ago
Both of them were fucking idiots, they should have been watching for traffic. As for the parachutes, they aren't as useful as the media says they are especially on Cirrus's. Cirus added a chute because the plane was structurally unsound and they wanted to meet FAA requirements with out designing a new plane. They desend at a rate of 1200 ft per minute, which compresses and even paralizes any passangers. Thus, cirrus's=death traps.
ritualghost 2 years ago
Cirrus did not add the chute because the plane was structurally unsound. They added it as a last resort safety measure. You dont pull the chute when you have an engine failure with plenty of suitable fields around nor over water. However, inadvertent IFR in mountanous terrain, or serious structural failures, or entering an unrecoverable spin are great scenarios in which the chute is a fantastic option. Granted, its equivalant to being dropped from a height of ten feet, its better than nothing.
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xXshadow12Xx 2 years ago
The parachute saved this guy from his inept piloting skills, but he could have injured or killed others for failing to watch for other aircraft in the vicinity. Hopefully he got himself enough adrenaline to move on to a hobby that would be less hazardous to himself and others.
airste172 2 years ago
He should have noticed the other aircraft as well as give way to it. Not only do you give way to converging traffic on your right, but also an aircraft towing a glider has right of way.
Bigglesgoggles 2 years ago
I still haven't found out what happened to the glider that was being towed!
TonyAirlines 2 years ago
It was a banner, not a glider being towed.
avi8tor4fn 2 years ago
@avi8tor4fn : No it was definitively a glider
jseytre 2 years ago
il a piloté comme une merde. point barre
Anton87000 2 years ago
Pour ce type de VFR la priorité de droite est d'application. Le pilote remorqueur vient de droite et a priorité.
Moteur calé, parachute? Tenter un champ aurait peut-être sauvé l'avion...
Georges99a 3 years ago
Surement..
pilotedeligne69100 3 years ago
L'avion n'est pas un cessna mais un ulm... le remorqueur a tjs la priorité... de plus, l'ulm n'etait pas en contact radio! (un branleur comme pilote et qui devrait ce faire tout petit au lieu de passer a la CNN!!) Terrain: gap et c'est tres fréquenté! sinon pas bcp de champs au alentour de la collision et la machine n'avait qu'un saumon abimé, bref, presque rien... machine sauvée.
sebcoolweb 2 years ago
Bien vu pour l' ULM
pilotedeligne69100 2 years ago
Correcte, car je pensais que cela c'était passé sur les alentours de Vinon sur Verdon
fontainead 1 year ago
@sebcoolweb c'est pas "passer à CNN" c'est de la pub pour le parachute qui reprend une actualité CNN … faut pas s'imaginer que c'est gratuit le web !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…
vincent7520 10 months ago
@pilotedeligne69100 C'est lui qui avait installé ce parachute? Combien coute ce dispositif?
Pum0a 6 months ago
@Pum0a
Le parachute de secours pyrotechnique est très couramment installé sur les ulm et même obligatoire dans certains pays, ça vaut ~3000euros installé sur un biplace...
oiseautempete 3 months ago
@Georges99a ouin mais c'est un peu poussé faut l'avouer le pilote du remorqueur a certainement vu le cessna et il a quand même passé juste devant. C'est un peu tiré par les cheveux chui sür qui a fait sa juste pour passer a CNN lol
fable2omg 1 year ago
@Georges99a
La priorité est donnée à une appareil en remorquage avant celle d'un autre avion. et celà pour n'importe quelle direction. Donc, en tout temps, la priorité est donnée à l'avion en remorquage.
rancourtdavid 9 months ago
@Georges99a Beutiful
fuliabe 4 months ago
this guy was alone and filming.the the glider which have seen him get out pulling out the rope and the plane towing him tried to climb quickly(the rope was not in tension)
borregueroc 3 years ago
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borregueroc 3 years ago
man! where this guy looking for??
amazing.... but check always area VFR flight...
tiagocespedes 3 years ago
Yes very very amazing !
pilotedeligne69100 3 years ago
wow that´s amazing
CRYSISTENSE 3 years ago