How to lace a wheel :) part 1

[gumbykevbo]

You forgot to explain the tucking the last cross under part of the job. It is bad if none are done, but if you are not paying attention to this , then some will be tucked under and others not, and that is even worse.

[oblivjoe]

One of the worst ways ive seen to lace a wheel!

[powsplatboom]

9:41 hahhahhahhahahh

[angelBmxican]

is it the same on a 48 hole rim?

[jackshep94]

can you buy a rim without having to change the spokes ?

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@jackshep94 if you buy a rim (outer hoop) you won't be able to use it without attaching it to your bike somehow!

if your current spokes are very used (stretched) and/or not the right length, you should use new spokes as well :)

[jackshep94]

@Fuckyouyoutuube so will it be best just to buy new spokes or what ?

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@jackshep94 It's reccomended to use new spokes for each wheel build

[jackshep94]

@Fuckyouyoutuube thanks alot :)

[h0wn0wbr0wnc0w95]

i'm guessing manually laced wheels buckle easier than normal.

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@h0wn0wbr0wnc0w95 what is "normal"?

[h0wn0wbr0wnc0w95]

@Fuckyouyoutuube well, if it is laced by someone who's watching a tutorial how to do it on youtube i would think that it was their first time and the wheel would probably not hold up as well as someone who does it 'professionally' / with experience in a store. so i kinda avoid doing it myself. :)

[asleeperj]

@h0wn0wbr0wnc0w95 It's not hard to do, Just did a 2 cross pattern on a motorcycle with tighter tollerances than a bicycle. No problem whats so ever. It's really easy. Learn how to do it, and make sure it's done right. Just because they work in a shop doesn't mean they know what they are doing. Could be someone new, or learning the trade. Who knows.

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@h0wn0wbr0wnc0w95 just start giving yourself experience! start with a trashed wheel or somethin! good luck! :)

[883darknight]

this just confused me , good vid tho

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@883darknight :o sorry! Thanks though? haha

[MrMagpiesRule]

Thanks



[MrMagpiesRule]

@Fuckyouyoutube Do you have to replace the spokes if you only want to replace a hub?

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@MrMagpiesRule You don't have to if you feel that the spokes are in good enough condition to reuse, however it is always recommended to start with fresh spokes, so that the build lasts as long as possible, no use in throwing away spokes though if you ask me! :) oh! also, the hub will need to have the same size flanges as the old one in order to have the spokes work, that or ever so slightly smaller as spokes stretch over time Good Luck! :)

[asleeperj]

@Fuckyouyoutuube Your way is def, faster though...

[andrewfelldown]

can you lace a 48h rim to a 36h hub???

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@andrewfelldown Yes, however it is not reccomended as the rim will not be evenly supported by spokes. equal tensioning will be harder to achieve. you will be on a wild goose chase going down that path. you have been warned! best of luck!

[zzzstbzzz]

grasias

[MikeMashes]

Thanks Bro!

[vazfx16]

These are great vids. This is the easiest method that I have found. Thanks for sharing

[vazfx16]

Good job young blood

[j50393]

How do u lace a 48 hole???

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@j50393

you should just count to the 4th opposite spoke for 4 cross

besides that, should be just the same! :)

[559kaliify]

@Fuckyouyoutuube how many holes do u skip on the rim?

[f4s1a1k9a5p]

@559kaliify if its 36 u skipp four spokes

[MCRROCKNROLL]

@f4s1a1k9a5p na mate u skip 3

[rekilk]

@j50393 hey man , all my back wheels are 48 , i sumtimes do em 5 cross but normally 4, wen you start the first 2 spoke have to be 9 holes apart and outbound , then when all the outbounds are done you should have 2 holes between each outbound for the inbounds to go in. it's pretty simple when you get the jist , this site helped me wen i first started ... btw i'm not scottish! bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotla­nd/airtight/bmx/tech_tips/inde­x.shtml

[ubersecretrapist]

can you do the same thing for a 48 hole???? :S

[hibrandon14]

@ubersecretrapist did u ever figure out how to lace a 36 hole hub to a 48 hole rim

[ubersecretrapist]

@hibrandon14 ummm no but you could just lace 36 of the holes?

i was talking about 48hole rim 48hole hub which you can use the same technique :)

[mustangfreak12345]

i was doing this and i got half way around one side and the spokes wouldnt reach ......................and i did the whole side and it wouldnt pop put a little like it should

[702xRyder]

Hella sick dude I was Able To Take my Hub Out Paint it And Put It Back together THANKS! SAVED ME 20 DOLLARS!

[mutablethehazza]

sweet bro cheers ! helped me get a job !

[RiderConnor]

dude you suck

[freta94]

bruv what do u mean grab the next inbound then next outbound what the fuck help me out

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@freta94 the next spoke on the outside of the flange and on the inside of the flange

[TBCBMXING]

thanks man

[colinprprpr]

Il be lacing my next rim... I had to drop off my one YESTERDAY to get laced... to late to do it now. Also i need a truing stand. damn.

[colinprprpr]

@L1NCOLNBMXERJ4CK not exactly. so dont try this

[unimacorn]

WTF I was afraid of doing this to my bike but i couldnt be stuffed paying 30 dollars and this helped a crap load and are all nipples that easy?

[StewieKicks]

thank you so much(: hahaha I've laced like five rims for my friends now. relly helped the bmx community around here and most everybody can lace now(:

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@StewieKicks SIIIICKK!!! this is great news to me! so glad to help yall out!

[79801]

ok i have dont this all laced up and everything but my rims bent now idk know whats wrong it wasnt bent b4

[jakehardtits]

thanks son. this helped alot

[cratos5689]

speek the fk up man im tryna lace a god dam rim here .<

[drgoofy111]

its the same with 48 right? just more spokes?

[willmanhi1]

thanks, was confusing but in the end ui got it sorted, i prefer to do one side 1st otherwise spokes fall out everywhere lol

[dominicanv8]

for who ever watches this video it iz true that its recomended cross is 3 but i recomend 4 cross its stronger & alot better also u dont need to call up a bike shop nor danscomp or something to figure out spoke size u can basicly use 194mm for 4cross so no matter wat size flang on eather size it should work fine! i have laced over duzen BMX rims for my self & friends & i have always used 194,195.

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@dominicanv8 take this mans advice with a grain of salt, there are different length spokes for a reason

[MrBray11]

thanks heaps did my wheel in an hour :) haha my friends said i couldnt do it

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@MrBray11 hell yeah man! congrats!

[phsicokitty23]

is it possible to skip 2 instead of 3?



[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@phsicokitty23 that would be 2 cross and while slightly lighter i suppose, it will be weaker side to side

[teck9r818]

can you use the same technique with cross lacing like on a fly rim

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@teck9r818 yes, but you should drop the spokes oppositely for a fly rim "to the right" instead of the left

[teck9r818]

@Fuckyouyoutuube thanks but i kinda figured it out cuz of your video....

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@teck9r818 even better than man :)

[hegyimutymuty]

113racing: i made this method with 4 corss, as shown in the vid. the only thing that you have to pay attention, that if you take the fourth inner spike after that outter, the spikes between them, you have to put them on your left, beacause they will be the end of the circle. and if you dont put them there, there won't be any space for the spikes that you want to lace.

sorry for my english, it's not my mother tongue :)

Greetings from Hungary

[am193]

hey thanks man that helped out alot

[properbikeco55]

yo what kind of spokes are those?

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@properbikeco55 just usa black 14g

[MrVicvega7]

ur not even showing were ur grabbing each spoke

[MrAlejandro1418]

Woooow u ain't funny in the last part but ur funny looking ahahahahahahahahaah faget

[manbearpigonabike]

you can use both 3x and 4x lacing on both 48h rims and 36h rims

[question320]

Just finished lacing my odessey v3 after two hours. It was my first time and I learned everything from this vid. It was a 48 hole so used for cross. Thanks a bunch!

[bmx2dayy]

i have a 48 holed rim and i really like it

but i dont want the extra weigt,

is it possible just to use a 36 hub

and only spoke up 36 of the 48 holes?

[f4s1a1k9a5p]

this is eazy but you make it hard

[KOJIFICADO]

@f4s1a1k9a5p TRUE!!

[maykolee]

omg my way is so much easier than ur's!!!! i do it where i put all the spokes in on oneside on the hub then put it on the rim twist the hub then put the spokes on the other side on.... and when my might was teaching me how to build a wheel he told me to avoid ur way cos its a lot harder

[chezbalz]

for me lacing rims is very stressful until i watch this video

[ZachDrone]

how do you know if its inbound or outbound

[Sirius0005]

my guess would be that the spoke is on the outside of the hub - see at 4.29 - he says that one is outbound. :)

[bmxman437]

um.when you lace a 48 can you use the 3 cross?

[Kirilltraceur]

@bmxman437

4x12=48

so you use a 4 cross.

never done this before, so correct me bros

[KrallSMike]

yes but 4 cross is much stronger

[FeedTheDoldrum]

try rant and 7ka or hazard lite?? fuck faces lol.

[DjMctwist2]

is that the rant hub shell?

[164jord]

stfu, i don't want to be spoekn to like that

[guitarmad24]

hey dude how do u know if yr wheel is 3 cross or 4 cross

[SBSDubStyle]

Hey thanks for the 411! I can't believe it's that easy to lace a wheel! What is the difference when you do a 32? I have one I have to lace and after this I'm ready for the challenge!

[164jord]

profile hub? demoliton rim? nice vid, i have built a weel and changed spokes in another

[xoxjameshoodxox]

shadow hub demo rim you cunt

[ashleychinchunkit]

placing spokes are easy. when the truing of the spokes comes in, you're screwed if you're a first timer

[cdruminhockey]

after u do the first 2 spokes do u keep skipin three spokes after or do u just cross the next 2 spokes and not skip any? please help

[jesward]

Umm. i dont get the part where u talk about the spokes and the whole gravity thing at [1:38s]. kinda confused me.

please explain.i gotta set up my wheel but this is the only thing stopping me

[devine86]

This guys way of spoking a tire is so confusing. You let the spokes from the top flange fall straight down and you drop the spokes on the bottom flange in between where the top spokes fall.

[tcaballo]

Yo, thanks for posting this. Aye how about a cross lace rim. Let's say like a Fly.

[Hicks0000]

you should charge people to lace their rims lol

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

yes but im not sure what cross to use one 32 or less spokes

but for 36/48 yes, definitely

[euyooo]

@Fuckyouyoutuube

I've got a bended axle in the rear mountain bike, the dam mechanic wants to change the whole rim because of that !!!!

do u know whta should I do instead ??!!

I can buy an axle from ebay but I don't know really what to do next :( :( and there s no informative videos on youtube at all that show that !!!!!!

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

@euyooo did you ever get your axle problem sorted out?

[euyooo]

@Fuckyouyoutuube

hahahaha yes

the mechanic tied the knot on the bended axle and the rear wheel stopped shaking afterward !!!

or maybe he was just telling me that and when I told him not to change the wheel he simply reassembled the wheel again and tied the knots and everything working fine

Cheers,

[nav2491i]

Does this apply to a mountain bike hub?

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

Awesome, glad i could help out so many :)

[acdcdudes]

built 4 wheels up using this vid as a guide and sent it to 13 friends all saying the same sweet vid man :)

[vldmaiden]

thanks man, i just laced my new primo hub in like 25 minutes now i wont pay to get my wheels laced and trued

[CarbonTuned]

I was making this soooo much more complicated than it really was

[japukneezboy123]

how much do 36 spokes cost?

[StraightOutOfNH]

about 16 to 20 for all of them

[neoow9]

you can get them cheaper abbout 10 to 15

[codebmx14]

what bout 48's same thiing???

[seansezs]

you dont use spoke prep?

[SICK0z]

what size are the spokes?

[jubjubpeanut1]

wat size in mm are the spokes?

[enjoimybike]

your spoke length depends on the hub and the rim. type in spoke length calculator on google and you should be able to figure it out from there.

[freshness945]

is this 3x or 4x?

[BordIord]

is it easy? because your making it looks simple (:

[113racing]

dude i cant use this method on four-cross. :/

it keeps getting jacked up.

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

sorry to hear man, ive used it on 4 cross hundreds of times, but i cant exactly figure out what youre doing wrong without you telling me so... good luck :)

[HYBRIDhater]

will u make a video on how to spoke a 48 with 36 spoke cause that's what i got and don't wanna weigh the bike down

[brando670]

you save like 2 oz. dont wast ur time

[HYBRIDhater]

well ive gotten my bike down to as light as possible now im just trying to save all the ounces, like i have no chromies lol, i have no, and i painted the rim a badass green and i ran out of green paint lol

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

im really thinking of lacing my next wheel set like that too actually haha :)

[russianpegs]

did you ever try lacing a wheel with the spokes inside the flange? My friend said its the best because you won't need to buy hub guards because the spokes will be out of the way of grinds. Could you tell me if their is a down side to this? I was thinking of lacing my next wheel like this.

[nickmoorhouse]

yeah the wheel would buckle a lot easier than usual but they would be safe from grinds as ;long as you dont mind tightening the spokes a lot it should be ok

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

damn man sorry, give it another shot if you care :)

good luck scout

[tylerrr189]

either i'm fucking retarded or this is way too fucking hard

[Nizz8daGrizz8]

yo thanks this helped me a little along with the rest of the youtube vids. i actually found the best thing to do was take the wheel off my dad mountain bike and used it as a template kinda for my MX rim, now i got it good to go

[Bmxicznmzn169]

how did u learn how to do this

[elfcyvo]

my spokes still feel to short when i get about half way through and the nipples arent getting stuck

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

count to the 4th one for 4 cross :)

[barspinKID]

if its 48h what cross do you do?

[KastBMX]

I really dont get the part after you put the spokes missing each other on 1 flange side but the how do you decide where to put them on the other side?

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

drop one flange, hold the hub so the spokes dangle downward, make sure to hold the hub straight up and down, and then drop the other spokes into the bottom flange, into the hole that is to the left of the now hanging spokes

that help any?

[ZEROxORxDIE1322]

this helped alot

thanks brahhh

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

It's doesn't matter which direction you start to as long as you do the opposite on the other side (example: start left, right on the other side. start right? left on the other side).

Also, crossing the outbounds under the inbounds adds a lot of lateral stiffness to the wheel.

ZOMG! Please further refrain yourself from spreading your misinformation. This comment definitely receives a regal thumbs down from me :facepalm:

[Bimmermpower4]

Ya as far as that goes..it is true and i am in agreement..I am a motorcycle tech for a living and the inbound spoke has to be OVERLAPING the outbound so pressure is exerted equally on cross points..your method takes the inbound and crosses UNDER THE OUTBOUND which is not allowing the pressure to be exerted proporly and defeating the purpose of this lace pattern.. I didnt mean to be so rude and abrubt but please check out any Original Factory Wheel and look closely how its laced...

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

I say- "Also, crossing the outbounds under the inbounds adds a lot of lateral stiffness to the wheel."

You say- "your method takes the inbound and crosses UNDER THE OUTBOUND"

No, outbound under inbound as in the spokes cross above the flange

[Bimmermpower4]

DO NOT FALLOW THIS..Watch closely as he shows you WRONG!!...In Begginning, he shows you to take one 'outbond spoke' and count 3 over opposite bound spokes which in that part is correct, but he takes the opposite bound spoke that is 3 over to THE LEFT and goes under the indbound!! WRONG!! Look At any Stock/Factory bmx wheel..your supposed to count 3 opposite bound to the RIGHT NOT LEFT!! and Cross it ON TOP...NOT UNDER!! Again look at any wheell! Physically and Geometrically...This guy is WRONG!

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

I thought about removing this comment because it was soo wrong but instead decided to show you guys why.

[bikerdude96]

argh its so complicated

[Petad00r]

Gracias has sido mi salvacion ^^

aunque no entienda tu idioma pero esta muy bien presentado.

Gracias.

[rexel666]

This is as clear as mud.

[louisbateson]

does this work with a 48 spoke? if not how do you do it?

[eze14213]

this kid does know what he is talkin about its just he didnt explain himself better i am a pro at building rims im only 24 it is quite simple it just takes alot of patience

[easternbikerkidd]

Does the first spoke you lace(outbound) go over the 3rd(inbound) spoke or does the inbound go over the outbound?

I tried doing it the way of your video, but when i cross... it feels as if the spokes want to bend or break.

[himedoju]

thats a good thing

[MiChAeLrIdEsBmX]

every other spoke sticks ou further!! it cant be my spokes being wrong cause its apattern the way the spokes are doing this. wtf

[eze14213]

take the spokes and push them forward one time the ones that are sticking out and loosen the ones up alittle that are in to get a good tension when you true the rims

[1234beanie]

I tried your way,let me just say you are a SPASTIC!!!

learn how to explain things properly before you make a video.

[MiChAeLrIdEsBmX]

okay so i fugured the problem was i had the spokes on the side of the flange on the other side of the rim so that problem is solved..now every other nipple or 4th or 5th nipple is threaded less onto the spoke and sticks out more than the rest that are tightd if i tightin them they bottom out before the spoke already gets tight what am i doing wrong??

[MiChAeLrIdEsBmX]

honestly i tried 4 times and cant figure what the fuck im doing wrong? but every god damn time i get done one side i cant get the stupid hub in the center its too far off to the side!!! and for some reason every fkn 5th nipple sticks out of the rim and the rest ar flush or below the rim wtf lacing rims is retarded....

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

you just take the next inbound and outbound to the left (or right if that's the way you prefer)

[MiChAeLrIdEsBmX]

ok after you take the first outbound spoke and cross it with the 3rd inbound spoke on the left what spoke do you cross after the first 2? like how many spokes do you count from the left after you put the one 3rd inbound? cause after puting the first 2 in i get stuck lol

[eze14213]

screw him and his outbound inbound its just more confusing to listen to him put the outbound spokes underneath the opposite ones going in the other way put all the spokes on one side first lace them up like hes doing and repeat for the other side

[iFootJami]

i thought it was every 2....

[eze14213]

it dont matter 36 or 48 keep skipping every 3

[iFootJami]

when you put the spokes in. There going in from the side with the driver on it right?

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

i would recommend skipping every 4th

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

then skip every 4th hole on the hub

but it's really not that simple. to be correct you will need various lengths of spokes

[Dew199]

lace 6 and skip 2

[maiiko2912]

what if my hub is 48 nd my is 36

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

you are doing it wrong maybe?

[ddp55suppa]

my spokes don't cross at 3 or 4

[norton666rob]

thankyou so much i am not a dumbass like the guy below this hepled me alot 5 stars and favorited

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

thanks man! :)

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

just count 4 spokes then :)

ex. grad outbound count 1, 2, 3, 4 inbounds in the direction you are going and boom! cross them up!

[legend5532]

crap ur doing a cross 3 pattern i need to do a cross 4

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

for the win

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

f/c ftw!

[veilsideracing20011]

i keep forgetting what FTW means

[veilsideracing20011]

he has a nice wheel set up. im gunna be getting a a alienation v2 f/c with a alienation black sheep rims. nice color of the set up

[Xsl1pkn0tX]

hmm.. w8 so by inbound and outbound u mean every other one? like black, blue, black,blue? message me plz

[Fuckyouyoutuube]

the inbounds are one color, the outbounds are the other so for 3 cros ou take one blue(or black) and count up to the 3rd black(or blue) and cross those, make sure to cross the outbound spoe behind the inbound for strength :)

[veilsideracing20011]

each j bend is in a in out in out pattern

[jtownn91]

to confusing. not enough detail. drives me insance. ive tryed 3 times, no dice. i give up.

[PeterSportiello]

i agree so much this kid is a fuking idiot