Make Your Own Ethanol At Home with the E-Fuel 100 MicroFueler

[TripInsure]

I would love to make my own ethanol.

[HighCardWins]

Ethanol has a higher octane than gasoline but gasoline packs more energy in the same volume. Cars that use ethanol get less mileage than gasoline. Make ethanol really really cheap and it may be worth it.

[TheAutoChannel]

@HighCardWins

The energy quotient point is irrelevant. Ethanol may result in less MPG because the engine is optimized to run on gasoline. If the engine was optimized to run on ethanol it would produce the same MPG as gasoline.

[HighCardWins]

@TheAutoChannel The engine would need to have a very high compression ratio or be boosted to have equivalent mileage to gasoline. Neither is the case for 99% of cars on the road. So you pay 10k for this and get less mileage b/c the manufacturers don't make cars for 100% ethanol. E85 cars have 30% reduction in fuel economy compared to gasoline. So, to sell this product as if it is going to save you so much money is misleading. You're better off buying a diesel and running veg oil.

[TheAutoChannel]

@HighCardWins

You are incorrect. What is required for the engine to be equivalent is to change the fuel injectors, in order for the engine to be optimized for alcohol.

Additionally, unless something is/was done intentionally to a particular "E85" vehicle it would not get 30% less MPG. That figure is preposterous. I use E85 regularly in non-flex fuel and flex-fuel vehicles and if there is a loss in MPG it is about 5%, which is covered on the price difference.

[HighCardWins]

@TheAutoChannel Why would you need to change the fuel injectors? B/C, you need larger injectors for more ethanol to equal the power of gasoline. You need more fuel. More fuel equal the power of gas unless the engine is high compression or high boost pressure.

[TheAutoChannel]

@HighCardWins

Actually, you need smaller, finer holes to atomize the alcohol better. The primary reason that alcohol (ethanol) will get less mileage per gallon in gasoline optimized engines is because the alcohol is wasted in the larger single-hole gasoline fuel injector.

You are obviously over your head on this subject.

[HighCardWins]

@TheAutoChannel From Edmunds,com test: Our preliminary E85 fuel economy estimates came out 20-25 percent lower than the Tahoe's 15 mpg city/21 mpg highway rating on gasoline. Reaching Las Vegas on a single tank of E85 looked doubtful. To avoid being stranded in the desert, we took along six gallons of E85 in plastic gas cans.

[TheAutoChannel]

@HighCardWins

The Edmunds E85 test story, like a lot of other things on Edmunds, is crap. I've dealt with this in the past and will be happy to send you my reply.

[tazdevilman1]

also if your distilling the alcohol at home using a reflux still (yes its booze and you can get loaded with it) you use either a fuel (use the methanol waste from booze or the ethanol which is the product you drink) or using hydro. Using hydro propane or gasoline etc. your pretty much negating the benefit of using ethanol/methanol. WARNING: DO NOT DRINK METHANOL OR ALCOHOL WITH METHANOL IN IT ITS TOXIC I am not responsible for your stupidity.

[tazdevilman1]

as far as the mileage is concerned in a fuel injected vehicle with the kit the difference will be very low. With a carb the mileage will vary depending on how good you are at getting the right fuel air mixture. Over all you burn more ethanol and get more power.

[tazdevilman1]

first off you are not talking about 100 percent pure ethanol for that price your talking approximately 95.9 percent maximum just to be clear. Second you cannot buy 110 octane petrol because they mix methanol or ethanol into the gas to raise the octane.

As far as vehicles with a carburetor you can run 100 percent ethanol easy in them because you just adjust the fuel mixture screws till the engine runs correctly. injector kits are better because a computer adjusts better then a carb.

[william38022]

could i use e 85 in my 1984 honda accord??? if so then how much does e fuel 100 micro cost ?? that movie star girl d. hannah has a sports car that rans on alcohol made from food waste can any one do this????

[TheAutoChannel]

@william38022

A 1984 Honda would require changing some parts. Daryl Hannah's car (a Firebird) was updated and had fuel injectors added.

[electro5]

@william38022 It depends if you have a carburator och fuel injection. if you have a fuel injection system you can run it on about 70-80% ethanol without changing anything. if you have a carburator you have to change the carburator so it takes in about 20-30% more fuel for 100% ethanol.

[PetertheGreatest1]

how many gallons of 1.00/gallon alcohol will you have to burn in your car to make up for the capital investment? This looks bad to me at $10,000 a pop. Maybe i can hit a hardware store and build my own still and use salt for additional drying and come out much better. Maybe i can even make a salt dryer out of some sensors and a hair dryer so i can reuse the salt.

[mellilore]

@PetertheGreatest1 Salt? Ziolite, that's the right stuff to get 95° ethanol, or a properly tuned reflux still

[PetertheGreatest1]

@mellilore What is Ziolite? Is it a phosphate? Here is my source. I don't have personal experience building stills or drying alcohol. This site is exhaustive on this subject. It is called journey to forever dot org.

[mellilore]

@PetertheGreatest1 just wiki zeolite

[PetertheGreatest1]

How much electricty in kw/h does this use to make a gallon of alcohol?

[elnachero]

This E-Fuel 100 MicroFueler is awsome, I got to buy one of these for myself. I just hope its not to expensive to purchase.....................

[fffeeenixxx]

You American really make us Europeans laugh with your "expensive" price of fuel at the pumps, you have no idea what expensive means. Anyway i love this machine they would sell well over here in th UK.

[william38022]

for this to work it must not raise food prices, and must be cheap and stay that way,if not very cheap you can not come out ahead, alcohol burns up fast and you will not get many miles per gallon

[TheAutoChannel]

@william38022

The production of ethanol does not cause food prices to rise. That is a lie invented by pro-oil lobbyists.

[BarefootArizona]

@william38022 What if you grow your own food? I'm curious as to whether or not you can use hemp. Hemp is easy to grow and it will be legal eventually

[MrDANIELDMARTINRIOS]

ethanol rocks!!

this looks ideal for sugarcane country like Clewiston area in FL,sugarcane areas in Louisianna or Hawaii that can have their own pumps like this and compete with gas station

wish they can show all over ,i am sure they can use sugarcane juice ,which is sugar and water

[MrDANIELDMARTINRIOS]

ethanol rocks!!

[hilton6357]

What is the operating cost for unit mile driven?!

[MrAks10]

Thieves in "Arabia"? You do realize that U.S. and Canada also produce oil. And the gas is taxed heavily. Thats why our gas prices are the way they are. What a bad host. Couldn't they find hosts that atleast have some common sense and know a bit about the system or the world oil market?

[TheAutoChannel]

@MrAks10

"Our" gasoline prices are not they way they are because of taxes. The very high prices in Europe are due to taxes, but not in America. The prices here are based on greed only; greed on the part of the various oil producers, gasoline companies and commodity speculators.

[justaman6972]

@TheAutoChannel I agree . The cost of gasoline production has not changed since the begining . It costs about 25 cents per gallon to make, and always has. Its greed and control and the counterfieting operation of the private federal reserve,IMF,World Bank among others which devalue a fiat currency causing inflation making it seem as though prices are going up. Alas it is not true.Prices aren't going up,rather the buying power of the paper is manipulated to be less. Peace

[MightyCarnac]

Very interesting but....... Pahleeeeze somebody tell me where I can get a pound of sugar for two cents.

[solarcell2011]

combustion engines by design are suppose to burn vapor not liquid like they all do, if they would heat and pressurize the gas to a vapor you can get much much more mpg but the industry doesn't want efficient anything !

[TheAutoChannel]

@solarcell2011

You are correct. It's a shame more people don't understand this point.

[elewsive]

@solarcell2011 yea i want the 180 mpg water car that would pretty much slaughter the whole ethanol market. Now thats true efficiency h20. I bet this machine cost 40,000 no consume can afford that, ethanol is the same price of gas where I live... whats the point of ethanol lol green, or wallet killing. they dont mention 20 -30% less mileage

[cruddiestcrudever]

Great idea and in an ideal world it would work if everyone had one of these. But, to produce enough sugar or whatever to make enough ethanol for every car in the world, there wouldn't be any agricultural land left to produce food.

[omally757]

Can you drink it? I was looking to make moon shine thats how i got here...

[TheAutoChannel]

@omally757

No. Our understanding is that it is highly illegal to do so, and that it would taste terrible, anyway. David Blume recommends that you buy the good stuff at a licensed retail store and use the bad stuff to fuel your vehicle.

[porpoisefathom]

@omally757 its only illegal because if everyone made thier own alcohol- they would lose money on tax revenues and too many people would circumvent the crushing authority of oil companies...and bypass high gas prices...personaly ill make moonshine and use that...illegal be damned!

[MrJeepniety]

One thing - this product is nothing but the well known still - well, nicely wrapped.

I wonder if millions of people start using this at home, what do you think - the sugar price will stay at the same level? Where do you get the sugar from? How much land will have to be used for growing plants for sugar? In conclusion - all this is nice and true but the human population must be reduced by half. Not so nice heh?

[PetertheGreatest1]

@MrJeepniety This still produces 100% alcohol. it uses a membrane to dry the 5% or so of water that a still will leave behind. The membrane is reusable so you dont need to add salt or other drying chemicals to get the last 5% or so out. Thats important because most new cars will need that level of purity if it is mixed with gas.

[NoSleepRacing]

these guys need to look more into how engines work. you get awful fuel economy. the break volumetric fuel consumption is higher than gas (amount of fuel to make power) you also have to have your cars look up tables re-tuned to compensate for the slower burn of the ethonol as well as the higher present of fuel needed to reach the stoichiometric ratio

[TheAutoChannel]

@NoSleepRacing

You are pretty much wrong on all of your points. If you want to know correct information let me know and we'll supply it to you along with contacts. If you're just writing nonsense for the sake of writing nonsense, forget it. We already know how great ethanol is and what it can do.

[eeeewidner]

@NoSleepRacing. I had just converted my 92 Eclipse GSX to run E85. You are right about about compensating the fuel system to handle ethanol. I have to run a minimum of 1000cc injectors and I currently run a Walbro 255lph pump with 14.2 volts. What a lot of people don't understand is that E85 causes lean conditions and will burn valves. But on the good note. I don't have a catalytic converter and the car has passed Portland Oregon emissions. My hydrocarbon counts are very close to a Toyota Prius

[jayguy173]

Well i like this just because i drive alot but most cars can run 30 to 50 percent max on non ethonol vehicals so 1/4 a tank of this every week might help me because i own lots of vehicals. What type of energy does it use and how much water?

[deltaalpha21074]

I will bet you Rich with Estates will buy this --you better believe it...they buy generators big ones..Vanguards this man has very good idea...

[deltaalpha21074]

Nothing wrong with this except ---Booze costs you money so does water and sugar today....still good for those with little mechanical ability.

[eldrama1]

don't need this contraption. it's just a fancy still. you can make your own for about 50 bucks.

[VITUS5]

@eldrama1 Yeah, 10,000 dollars will go a long way in buying a very productive still- and a productive still at a fraction of that price. Its a good effort, that again cashes in on a sound idea and selling the convenience, or illusion of convenience

[samking12]

u cant drink this of course right? lol lol

[Cr3ater]

yes you can, its moonshine!

[samking12]

good lil history lesson here

[neo76able]

are you serious? i was on board til he said parts were made in china? helllooooooo biggest polluter in the world........its just someone trying to cash in on the green craze.

[deltaalpha21074]

I gotta agree who makes best one quality cause China makes junk.... so this should be made in USA making jobs(Quality) ....and no Mexicans or other EOE...Best quality always came form USA and Japan.

[pplblastoffsite]

@neo76able

the computer your on now is made in china so are your tvs, your car parts,your clothes,your sports equipment your tools , i could go on but the idea of making our own gasoline "ethanol" is a start no matter where the parts or machine is made to do it.

[gilgamesh1962]

Hey folks, If Brazil can make Ethanol work in their country, are we so technologically backwards that we cannot do this in the US? or is it that they pay way to much attention to the negative info from Faux news and other corporate owned media outlets. The Co, that makes this device is setting up a network of suppliers, this way farmers, or other sources will make money, they also have a gridbuster generator to power unit and home using Ethanol, I think this is a great start.

[gilgamesh1962]

And 10K may sound a bit high, but compared to what you would save purchasing a regular car over a hybrid, that more than makes up the savings. and we all know it wont be long before other manufactures ( China for example ) starts making cheaper versions of these things. frankly, even if the damn Ethanol cost the same as Gas, at least your not financing these OPEC countries ( we all know how much they love us ) and the cleaner emissions are just another benefit..

[ChrisBennett18]

what some one told me to kill my self so i responded they way they wanted me to and this video of ethanol is bad because ethanol burns to fast then gasoline

[pirogue29]

I'll just buils my own still for a hundred bucks and use waste farm crops and grow my own. That way I don't have to pay your lameazz and I can produce 60 gallons a day , for about 3 days per month, for about 60 bucks worth of yeast , free rotten veggies, plus my time.

[mattman889]

1.85x500=925+S+H for dextrose=screw it id rather use gas

[DARTAGNANS170]

actually it's 0.02$USx500pound=10$US + Shipping and handling. Sugar costs 2 American cents per pound, stop thinking you will go buy 500x1 pound bags of sugar at your local superstore.

[FrettiYeti]

they claim they are working on a distribution system for unedible mexican sugar feedstock for around 2.5cents per pound ....  the stuff "megalomart" is the wrong stuff

[MrBillTroop73]

500 pounds of sugar???

Another useless device scam!!!

[YerTalkingKrap]

As opposed to pumping out noxious gases from your fuel hungry SUV, poisoning everything on planet Earth. Fuck you.

[giant648]

i am 14 and i have a idea to beat this piece of garbage way out of the stocks its ok but it stinks only two way to make it and it still costs for the little man my idea works for everyone unlike your creation.

[vk4akp]

This is fantastic. I hope they have an Australian distributor!. :) .-.-.

[LaWoman071]

You are brilliant! Love your machine and video!

[Jroe7313]

haha and that why you beeeen suein... ya ya drillin in the ocean aint guunna ruin nothin it natural leakin!!! du du da da da

[giant648]

oil is precious and the world needs it to move and adjust its grease to the earth and the other thing is that after blood rots and sits in compression it turns into the liguid that we realy on now thats why they call it dinosaur fuel its from the animals and humans

[giant648]

well does your lawn mower run on ethanol and ethanol is just a technical word for moonshine so really im sorry for your problem with your lawn mower maybe it wold be good for you to do more reasearch about lawn mowers and ethanol

[ChrisBennett18]

no my lawn mower cannot take ethanol if it takes it it will ruin the engine and there for i have now lawn mower to cut my lawn before i get in trouble with the stupid people

[giant648]

well then there inlies ur problem its not the eco friendly peoples fault and think if a lawn mower just runs on gasoline then that might tell you something

[ChrisBennett18]

yes it is the eco fault they forced the government that if there is no ethonale in gas online then they cant sell it so thats the problem its the eco fault

[unluckykid256932]

I'd rather use ethanol for $3/g which is like 110 octane than buy 110 octane petrol for like $6 per gallon. What does that mean? I can run higher boost, with more power daily, for less money. And I don't need a catalytic converter because I'll pass SMOG. There ya go retard.

[ChrisBennett18]

no first of all ethanol burns faster then regular gasoline and it cost more to buy ethanol then regular gas it cost 3-5 dollars more to put ethanol in gas then normal gasoline also it ruin my lawn mower and what really causes smog the moisture in the air with fog and smoke not our cars, and global warming is caused by volcanoes and the sun not humans

[unluckykid256932]

Go kill yourself.

[ChrisBennett18]

suicide is not the answer fatty

[bodunchar]

so the fact you put it in your engine, its not your fault, that makes my head spin pal

so if they said jump in a fire and you did so and got burned, you would blame them for getting burned huh?

[ChrisBennett18]

no i use common sense

[mattman889]

but butanol will work in any gas powered engine :D

[jc7622]

To set the record straight, ethanol DOES NOT turn into water. It can absorb water from the air if it is stored in an open container. In a different way this can be a problem for gasoline. This is why airplanse always fill their tanks after landing. They don't want a large quantity of air in the tank so there isn't condensation taking place. The reason it may damage a lawn mower or motorcycle is because it may need to have the jetting or carb adjusted to be jetted properly.

[OverOrdinary1010]

A machine? you gotta be crazy....

Ethanol production is basically alcohol brewing. Ppl have been doing this for centuries. There is no need for a machine and you can use other products than sugar.

Also, check out cellulous production of ethanol, if this works out, there could be practically no need to make ethanol, as it could be cheaply and mass produced.

4:00 - soo thats what prohibition was about , oil competition and not crazy christian morals?

[evolution2015]

If millions of people bought this machine, do you think the companies will be able to supply the amount of sugar needed for say three years, if so i bet the price of sugar will go up from two cents to sixty cents in a few years.

the best thing to do is to let the rich people buy it fist so we can see if it is worth it or not.

[uclaztec2]

This machine cost $10,000. You can make your own fuel for much cheaper.

[Juanitotrucupey]

so you can run your car on ethanol without modifications?

[quaheedus]

No you cant

I believe it is illegal in the U.S. to run on 100% ethanol..why? I am not sure except for the fact that it is corrosive and maybe they think it would cause fuel leaks in cars that were not converted to run on 100% ethanol.

How anyone would know? I have no idea.If it were me and I wanted to do it I would!

[TheOmegablood]

I think it might have to do with having no one trying to drink it. If you make your own ethanol you are required to poison it with 15% gasoline.

[quaheedus]

Yeah that is true, but I checked and it is corrosive to lines, fuel pump and rubber components on regular vehicles that is why you have flex fuel vehicles, they have stainless lines, different type of pump etc.I am not sure about the 30-505 mix I think it just take longer to do damage.

[leepastrana]

but come on! at least this is a start... it can only get better.

[bodunchar]

its illegal because they wouldnt be able to tax it directly.

[TheOmegablood]

I have heard you can run a car without any mods on (suggestions varry)30-50% gas/ethanol mix.

[MB300Diesel]

I ran my '82 Toyota Tercel on 70% E85 (85% alcohol - 15% gasoline) without any mods whatsoever... It ran a little better and used a little bir more fuel, but the E85 was almost half the price of gas... :)

[aerostal]

you know i sent the people from the micro fueler company and they still have not sent me any responce to the questions that i asked. i dont think anyone will want this machine if its not worth it and they dont even tell you vital informantion alsoi sent the email about three weeks ago i think theres no way anyone is going to buy

[captainjman1976]

Before I buy one of these units, maybe you can give me a specific name, address and phone number of the wholesaler that sells sugar at 2 cents a pound... I am in Chicago, do you have contact information a distributor here? Further, please address the power consumption needed. (I plan on using solar panels)

[jas03000]

I think he said the government has passed a bill that allows you to purchase sugar for fuel cheaply. Farm Bill. He also said that their working with Sysco Foods for sugar distrubution. You must a permit to create fuel. But I don't think its hard to get.

[johnsquest68]

can you use grass or grain instead of sugar for the ethanol? If we have to use straight sugar, even from a wholesaler, your talking way more than $1 a gallon.

[aerostal]

You know what he never said was how much electricity that this unit uses. Im woundering if this thing spends as much electricity as an air conditioner. Also does it spend more electricity than the ev1 or the rav4 ev uses to power themselves

[homesecuritysystems]

Hi aerostal, good point. i was wondering the exact same thing. i think if this unit was so great and simple to use, they should have told us the cost of electricity consumed, a better accurate price and the amount of sugar needed to run a car for say one week. if this machine cost $10.00 it will take me a little over one year to make that back in savings. not bad.

[homesecuritysystems]

meant to say $10.000

[quaheedus]

Their site says it uses 3kwh to make a gallon. The thing with this is the cost of sugar.Their site says it takes 10-14 lbs to make 1 gallon of ethanol. A 50lb bag at Sams is 17.89, so just factoring in the sugar alone would cost about $3.59 a gallon.Unless he can come up with a place to buy sugar for pennies as he says he can, this isn't going to sell.

[RenardLH]

This looks like a high-tech moonshine distilling apparatus. I can make my own still apparatus for less than $9,995. $9,995 is too much. Less than $3995 sounds about right.

[HeadTater]

but the MicroFueler is more efficient, requires less work, and most importantly, legal.

[HeadTater]

and safer

[racerboyGTR]

Did anybody notice how little ethanol he put into the car??? It sounds pretty in theory and trust me I love the idea, but you guys have to remember, his job is to sell this product...HIS product. So you have to do some math before you make the jump. For example: I don't know about you guys but I can't go to the store and pick up sugar for 2 cents a pound...thats not happening.

[TheAutoChannel]

We only put a small amount in my tank because I had already been almost filled before going to the interview. There is no mystery about ethanol working in place of gasoline, it's a proven fact. You are correct that you cannot go to your corner grocery store and buy sugar for 2 cents. You do have to get it from a wholesaler, which is what Tom Quinn said in the interview.

[TGseason10]

Pretty cool.