Do you think extending health insurance to children up to age 26 is for the poor?With the current unemployment rate this is a shame.Recent graduates who work part time do not qualify.Only if they DO NOT WORK at all. That's because if the employer offers insurance, which is required by law with 50 > employees, they must pay out of pocket for far inferior coverage. Who's children take a year off after graduation? Who's children are working part-time to find work? Rich kids get quality health care.
Do you think extending health insurance to children up to age 26 is for the poor?With the current unemployment rate this is a shame.Recent graduates who work part time do not qualify.Only if they DO NOT WORK at all. That's because if the employer offers insurance, which is required by law with 50 > employees, they must pay out of pocket for far inferior coverage. Who's children take a year off after graduation? Who's children are working part-time to find work? Rich kids get quality health care.
@supamanxxx So punish all of the doctors! You're truly ignorant. No one goes into medicine PURELY for the money. That has to be to largest misinformed decision one can make -- you'd have to be even more poorly informed than this President. The time in education:money ratio is low. Compare it to law, dental, or business school. We work like slaves forever. Then we make money with extraordinarily high educational debt. Shut the hell up and know what you're talking about first. Jesus Christ alive.
@Nipponkoku Lmao! No one goes into medicine PURELY for the money? Where have you been? I know people personally who got into things like that JUST because it's such a high paying field. Know what you talk about. I had that comment on here months ago. I completely forgot about it, But do yourself a favor. Take a chill pill, Take a deep breath, and take a nice walk outside. Maybe getting a life will keep you from getting so pissy over comments from a stranger on a computer from ages back. Thanks.
I have a crippling back disease. A Dr wanted to perform a procedure that I found out has a low rate of success. It's really expensive too. but my insurance will pay for it. I declined the procedure because I felt it was a waste of time and money. I think more patients have to think this way. I read that removing tonsils can be cheaper in the long run. But Obama was just making a point.
Average wage in USA is maybe 30-40% higher compared to Europe . US doctors are paid 3 times more than European Doctors but US healthcare is much worse than European healthcare.
Long live the inefficient and corrupted US healthcare !
I know many physicians and, even if they could make that kind of decision, no doctor that I know of would do that so that he or she can make another couple of hundreds of dollars.
This was made on July 22, 2009, by far the most uninformed, ridiculous, off base Presidential speech I have ever heard. On this date, it was made clear to me that Obama has no idea what the real issues are in medicine today. it is absolutely incredible that our commander in chief , harvard educatucted could even bring this up in causal conversation, let alone announce in a offical TV pres conf. it was at this moment that I was afraid of his ingnorance & the misuse of power that could result.
I have been a paramedic for a long time. I am afraid of what the health care system will deteriorate into if this guy gets his way. Is this guy an MD? An RN??? He has access to the best health care in the world through his position. Pretty soon going to the doctor will be like going to DMV for all of us working people. if this cat gets his way. If you criticize Mr. Obama, then you are automatically a racist. No winners here.
Mr. President, last time I checked a primary care provider is not trained or licensed to perform tonsilectomy nor is there a payment system to pay the primary care doctor for "recommending" surgery.
He's right and it's about time America woke up to it. The only ones complaining about it are definetly people lucky enough not to have to go through the bullshit healthcare system.
Well, thank you for your well reasoned addition to this thread. Must've had your triple grande Frappacino today didn't you pumpkin?
Though I think you forgot to call us all Racists too, so must've missed the Oberman indoctrination hour. So sorry for you.
Well, perhaps you could further enlighten us Professor. I can't wait to see what other brilliant tidbits you could share with us poor, ignorant, red-necked, bible thumping, neo-cons... Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, gun loving too!
that's SO wrong... for docs in primary care, when we refer for an ENT to evaluate for a possible tonsillectomy, we don't get any profit from it! we refer because we believe it's in the best interest of the patient.
this is the problem with healthcare! too many people are interfering with doctors' ability to take care of patients efficiently (e.g. insurance companies, fear of getting sued, etc..). more govt involvement in this area will probably make things worse.
You won't here the dems breath a word of truth because power is the cure. They want to control the masses, Teddy Roosevelt first proposed national health insurance in 1912, FDR proposed it again in the 1930s. Harry Truman proposed it again in the 1940s. They've been waiting along time for this progressive power holy grail issue, healthcare is the way to pure Socialism, Reagan was warning of this as far back as the 60s. Oh, let's not forget Hillarycare.
Not so. The Drs. Likely get ~1/10th that amount, none of US think we are GOD, nor do we want to end up injuring patients. Besides, there is such a thing as Peer Review. And in general Drs. must substantiate the criteria for surgery before it will be approved by insurance reviewers.
How is it that Politicians and the public can speak with such certainty when demonstrably wrong???
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Do you think extending health insurance to children up to age 26 is for the poor?With the current unemployment rate this is a shame.Recent graduates who work part time do not qualify.Only if they DO NOT WORK at all. That's because if the employer offers insurance, which is required by law with 50 > employees, they must pay out of pocket for far inferior coverage. Who's children take a year off after graduation? Who's children are working part-time to find work? Rich kids get quality health care.
HoneyMyGolden 1 year ago
Do you think extending health insurance to children up to age 26 is for the poor?With the current unemployment rate this is a shame.Recent graduates who work part time do not qualify.Only if they DO NOT WORK at all. That's because if the employer offers insurance, which is required by law with 50 > employees, they must pay out of pocket for far inferior coverage. Who's children take a year off after graduation? Who's children are working part-time to find work? Rich kids get quality health care.
HoneyMyGolden 1 year ago
Well, he's actually right. Not all doctors I'm sure. But I know alot of them are just in it for the buck, Other than people's good health.
supamanxxx 1 year ago
@supamanxxx So punish all of the doctors! You're truly ignorant. No one goes into medicine PURELY for the money. That has to be to largest misinformed decision one can make -- you'd have to be even more poorly informed than this President. The time in education:money ratio is low. Compare it to law, dental, or business school. We work like slaves forever. Then we make money with extraordinarily high educational debt. Shut the hell up and know what you're talking about first. Jesus Christ alive.
Nipponkoku 8 months ago
@Nipponkoku Lmao! No one goes into medicine PURELY for the money? Where have you been? I know people personally who got into things like that JUST because it's such a high paying field. Know what you talk about. I had that comment on here months ago. I completely forgot about it, But do yourself a favor. Take a chill pill, Take a deep breath, and take a nice walk outside. Maybe getting a life will keep you from getting so pissy over comments from a stranger on a computer from ages back. Thanks.
supamanxxx 8 months ago
LOL. Who gets their tonsils removed if they have a sore throat?
sinblader 1 year ago
I have a crippling back disease. A Dr wanted to perform a procedure that I found out has a low rate of success. It's really expensive too. but my insurance will pay for it. I declined the procedure because I felt it was a waste of time and money. I think more patients have to think this way. I read that removing tonsils can be cheaper in the long run. But Obama was just making a point.
ThisWillLeaveaMark 1 year ago
Average wage in USA is maybe 30-40% higher compared to Europe . US doctors are paid 3 times more than European Doctors but US healthcare is much worse than European healthcare.
Long live the inefficient and corrupted US healthcare !
mafioso86 1 year ago 4
@mafioso86 Wages aren't higher, US just work longer hours. So higher salary maybe, but not wage.
ffhk1 1 year ago
Shouldn't the doctor doing the diagnosis be financially independent of the doctor performing the treatment?
kmarinas86 1 year ago
I know many physicians and, even if they could make that kind of decision, no doctor that I know of would do that so that he or she can make another couple of hundreds of dollars.
plzhealme 1 year ago
The Great Brown Hope.
streetwhereulive 1 year ago
This guy obviously has a profound disdain for M.D.'s and has no clue as to
who performs tonsillectomies. When is the last time that your peditrician performed a tonsillectomy ?His senario is
totally off base and his thinking is terribly flawed
joewatson12 2 years ago
This was made on July 22, 2009, by far the most uninformed, ridiculous, off base Presidential speech I have ever heard. On this date, it was made clear to me that Obama has no idea what the real issues are in medicine today. it is absolutely incredible that our commander in chief , harvard educatucted could even bring this up in causal conversation, let alone announce in a offical TV pres conf. it was at this moment that I was afraid of his ingnorance & the misuse of power that could result.
fendergibs 2 years ago
I have been a paramedic for a long time. I am afraid of what the health care system will deteriorate into if this guy gets his way. Is this guy an MD? An RN??? He has access to the best health care in the world through his position. Pretty soon going to the doctor will be like going to DMV for all of us working people. if this cat gets his way. If you criticize Mr. Obama, then you are automatically a racist. No winners here.
bigphreaking 2 years ago
except trail lawers, also DMV works has more rights & protections than MD b/c of DMV unions
fendergibs 2 years ago
You need an act of congress to fire a DMV employee. If I performed my job with the same speed and dedication as a DMV employee, I would be fired.
bigphreaking 2 years ago
Mr. Uninformed President, I, the surgeon am not "forced" to make a decision regarding patient care, at least not YET.
I am, however, FORCED to fork over $60,000/year to malpractice insurance(zero successful claims in 20 yrs). That's over a million bucks in my career.
Unlike politicians, my decisions are ALWAYS based on what's best for the patient.
oran6es 2 years ago 7
Mr. President, last time I checked a primary care provider is not trained or licensed to perform tonsilectomy nor is there a payment system to pay the primary care doctor for "recommending" surgery.
mzafaran 2 years ago 2
He's right and it's about time America woke up to it. The only ones complaining about it are definetly people lucky enough not to have to go through the bullshit healthcare system.
ANGRYMAPLE 2 years ago
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the president is right. you guys are ignorant.
tien714 2 years ago
Well, thank you for your well reasoned addition to this thread. Must've had your triple grande Frappacino today didn't you pumpkin?
Though I think you forgot to call us all Racists too, so must've missed the Oberman indoctrination hour. So sorry for you.
Well, perhaps you could further enlighten us Professor. I can't wait to see what other brilliant tidbits you could share with us poor, ignorant, red-necked, bible thumping, neo-cons... Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, gun loving too!
Moron!
SandmanSB2008 2 years ago
that's SO wrong... for docs in primary care, when we refer for an ENT to evaluate for a possible tonsillectomy, we don't get any profit from it! we refer because we believe it's in the best interest of the patient.
this is the problem with healthcare! too many people are interfering with doctors' ability to take care of patients efficiently (e.g. insurance companies, fear of getting sued, etc..). more govt involvement in this area will probably make things worse.
yajeel 2 years ago 10
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You won't here the dems breath a word of truth because power is the cure. They want to control the masses, Teddy Roosevelt first proposed national health insurance in 1912, FDR proposed it again in the 1930s. Harry Truman proposed it again in the 1940s. They've been waiting along time for this progressive power holy grail issue, healthcare is the way to pure Socialism, Reagan was warning of this as far back as the 60s. Oh, let's not forget Hillarycare.
hellotommy 2 years ago 3
He just insulted the noblest of professions.
leddhed 2 years ago 3
So Obama knows more than the Doctors?
Patsun9 2 years ago
Dave... is that you? Loyola Medical school?
lightoff1976 2 years ago
Obama "acted stupidly" in this video..
80sCartoonsRock 2 years ago
Not so. The Drs. Likely get ~1/10th that amount, none of US think we are GOD, nor do we want to end up injuring patients. Besides, there is such a thing as Peer Review. And in general Drs. must substantiate the criteria for surgery before it will be approved by insurance reviewers.
How is it that Politicians and the public can speak with such certainty when demonstrably wrong???
SandmanSB2008 2 years ago
Sorry for being offensive, just opinionated. Will remove comment.
mickeydyl 2 years ago
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mickeydyl 2 years ago