Gaza's underground lifelines - 4 Oct 08

[The100black100]

If you even say that Israel is blocking the tunnels for Military purposes, than you are dirranged, Okay sure they block guns, but why block chocolate, candy, Food goods? Let me guess... Chocolate bombs.

[constructivereconcil]

Put down your Islamic imperialist war and arms race, and peace will break out. If Israel drops its weapons for a moment, people are kidnapped and lynched. Obviously Israel is doing the very minimum justified in self defense. Any Westerner who contradicts this is a dupe or a liar.

[constructivereconcil]

What lies. The "siege" is for war material. Period. Liars.

[arthurneddysmith]

Israel is trying to economically crush the Palestinian people by blocking exports out of Gaza as well as imports.

Anyone who believes Israel is doing this to stop weapons smuggling needs to ask themselves why exports are blocked also.

[sans9soleil]

This time to Gaza

vamos a Gaza Gaza

[viviek515]

I love Ayman Mohyeldin! =D

*make peace, not war*

[xXxJaMiixXx]

Oh ur sooo Rightt !!

[djack99587]

hamas may be killers, but there is no jusification for killing innocent palestinian children. what they are doing now is mass murder

[ichirojm]

to all the jews,i can see all the hate towardsyou and agaist,60 yrs ago you took by force people out of their homes,the least you could do is apologise to all palestinians,even now the new settlers are taking land by force,how long before you stop doing this,and then you call them terrorists,are you insane!i say conpensate them for all this yrs of suffering,give them some dignity and then maybe you will have peace.

[gaurav349]

mr nice11 & mr cake.......i have gone through history & i beleive u muslims needed to be wiped out if humans want to have any future for this planet earth.....u r the most illitrate, backward race on this planet earth....... u just know how to pray allah five times a day........u r a parasite on this planet........& needed to washed away as quickly as possible

[07nise11]

wer illiterate? atleast i can spel it.. nd u mean need to be washed away.. lol.. wer the illiterate ones? yh ok.. nd we pray TO allah nt pray allah. seriusly, before makin stupid, ignorant comments tht prove u dnt knw a lot.. nd then use a spell checker before calling a whole race of ppl illiterate..

[JamesKM1ll]

Honestly this argument between two of the worst English speakers on this planet. If your are ever trying to boast about your own grammar and spelling, you might want the practice that and actually use grammar and spelling. As for Gaurav349, your wrong. I doubt first of all you have ever opened a history book, and secondly you should thank the Muslims for all that they have done. With out them, you wouldn't be on a computer reading this.

[07nise11]

as human beings we dont have the right to take away the life of another human, whether its a palestinian, an israeli, a black person, a white person, or a coloured person. how can u take sumthing tht dusnt belong to you? life was given to us by Allah (swt) nd will be taken by Allah (swt).. jus because sum ppl rnt muslims nd dnt beleev in Allah, it dusnt mean tht thy cant beleev in peace. i am a muslim but i dnt agree wid any terrorist, or murderer, bt ther fate lies in the hands of our creator..

[gaurav349]

who baleive in quran.........as far as gujrat roits r concerened it was result of minority appeasment policies & burning of godhra train........muslims arnt ready to let a temple built at disputed site in thr own country.......

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

first ofall, there is no concrete proof that the train was set on fire by muslins. if they had even the most minute evidence, don't you think they would have gone after them in court?

the mobs weren't a minority, they were in the hundreds of thousands.

[abujara911]

Its okay you will be in hell fire becuase you are ignorent and blind God doesnt need you to pray to him hes got enough creatures praying to him...but it will just cost you more misory and you will have nothing but hell fire for ever.

[gay4prophetmohammed]

Hell doesnt exist either, simpleminded imbecile.

P.S heaven is made up as well! OH NOZ!

[smylee3760]

who cares what israel think,thats how they get there goods.israel get their goods from places and ways to we human .f israel long live palestian

[gay4prophetmohammed]

Muslims can invade civilian hotels, purposely kill hundreds of innocents and the Arab league says nothing. Israel retaliates after terrorists continually bombard civilians with rockets and every arab country goes apeshit condemning Israel.

Nice double standard...pigfucking muslims.

Go IDF!

[smylee3760]

also dont forget israel was a guess of palestian then they took it over now they dictate what can and what cant go on in palestian like they are they ruler.f israel until they get there shit together they are just a piece of crap preashin onething but doin another.fake ahole people.stop buildin homes on their land then when a rocket hit u,u go in their land and take over where it was thrown,then build more houses for your jews pressure.its a shame palestian has to go under ground.when they free!

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

hey fuckface, i am from bombay india and i am amuslim. those bitches killed muslims too. they aren't real muslims and the muslims in india aren't even allowing them to be buried in muslim cemeteries. after 9/11 millions of muslims held vigils. this is in stark contrast to THE OFFICIAL ISRAELI POLICY to reduce deliberately and engage in ethnic cleansing after they've stolen land from poor people.

doesn't come as a surprise since the TALMUD encourages violence and even rape against gentiles.

[gay4prophetmohammed]

LOL ...idiot. you proved my point. Deny it all you like, islam is a fucking joke. For that mater all religions are, islam is the biggest falsehood of them all

[07nise11]

im a muslim, nd ur comment cud be seen as offensive. but i dnt take offence, cos ur jus mislead into believing that Islam stands for terrorism. Just research a bit about it.. jus look at what islam encourages.. read a translated version of th quran.. im nt telin u to convert to Islam.. jus get ur facts right.

[gaurav349]

hey wht if i would say say pak & bagladesh muslims have illegally occupied hindus land with britishers help.........& still bangladesh is sending more & more illegal bangladeshis in our country........bye ths alegations u muslims r living on land belongs to hindus even in india....cant u terrorists let those isrealis live in pease if we r letting u basterds to live here because of our psudo secularists ministers votebank politics......

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

you're a dumbfuck. i am not a pakistani nor a bangladeshi, i am indian. those muslims have indian GENES in them including me. i don't favor the partition either but what happened, happened.

now on the question of israel, they're 85 percent east european in descent. they occupied palestine witha twisted biblical story. they still haven't adhered to UNITED NATIONS resolution asking them to withdraw in 1962.

i don't support hamas but israel is not fighting terrorism, they're committing genocide.

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

asking them not to leave israel but to withdraw from the west bank and gaza strip.

hour long check points are placed to humiliate people moving in their own country, they have destroyed their homes, the people have no jobs, they're totally dependent on tunnels and AID organizations for food and israel on their water supply. israel has killed thousands of children. this isn't about muslims and jews. its very sad that you stupid desi are taking pakistani hatred and applying it everywhere.

[lullybye2008]

Who cares about this pig of jew

Israel is pig is israel is pig is israel..

Jew is Dirty is Jew is Dirty

nazi germany should kill all jews..burn them ..so in this world no more shit jew , no land for jew in this world, maybe at Mars planet or Pluto have..haha..This kind of parasite jew is no shame races.I will throw my shoes to Mr Gay Olmert. shame born as jew..crazy jew like Zohan.jew come from clone process pigs+parasite..get out of this world Dirty jew

From the Great Hitler Germany-Nazi

[gaurav349]

well muslims in kashmiri r in majority ..first thing they done in there they kill innocent kashmiri pundits 7 deperive them of thier motherland.well its in ur twisted genes u just cant live with those who sont beleive in koran shit..& bye the way i have seen those burnt pundits houses & i would like isreal & bjp to burn all muslims fm gaja to kashmir

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

faith an genes are two separate things. both hindus and muslims are responsible for the south asian crisis.

genocide against muslims happened in gujarat too.

watch?v=3lzJPLJ50y0&feature=ch­annel_page

i am not a kashmiri. i am from bombay.

you can't even spell gaza let alone know its history.

you're angry at the british for dividing india but fail to see they created israel.

talk about a subjective view of history.

kashmir and gaza are separate.

have a good new year. bye.

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

watch?v=3lzJPLJ50y0&feature=ch­annel_page

[gaurav349]

talking abt genocides where is 25% hindu pop of pakistan & bangladesh gone......... talking abt genocide muslims of kashmir arnt ready to give an inch to hindus for pilgimrage to holy shrine(given for 2 mth on lease)in thr own country .......talking of genocides wht u have to say abt those thouands of temples being destroyed by muslim invaders....... gaza (which u spelled right as its more closer to ur heart) & kashmir problems originate fm same thinking that is not letting live those

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

listen, i got angry at you for bringing up kashmir in this video. i don't support pakistani actions, lashkar e toiba, hizbul, SIMI or any other indo pakistani terror groups.

if you want to talk about india- pak-bangladesh,this is not the right place to voice your feelings.

you lack knowledge on palestinian -israeli history.

you're placing innocent civilians in the gaza with nation with modern weapons. the palestinians are totally helpless & oppressed unlike pakistanis they're actually occupied.

[ravving]

i hate bloody jews,motherfuckers

[jimiydoorshamelech]

Israeli hospitals extend humanitarian treatment to Palestinians from the Gaza Strip and West Bank. These efforts continued when all other cooperation between Palestinians and Israelis came to a halt during the most recent intifada.

— Palestinian obstetrician and gynecologist Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish

[PauloGVieira]

For a small minority of patients this is the case, for a large majority they are denied access to treatment. You forgot to write about the number of Palestinians who die from cancer because Israel does not allow them the freedom of movement to get help.

[jimiydoorshamelech]

For example, during just one 48-hour period (January 5-6, 2003), the IDF:

Coordinated the movement of Palestinians seeking medical care, assisting 40 to go to hospitals, including four patients from Gaza who were transferred to Israel for medical treatment.

Coordinated the movement of 284 Palestinians in the West Bank who were transferred by ambulance.

Coordinated the passage of building materials for the construction of a hospital in Kalkilya.

[ihavedream]

Jews, Screw.

The end is near.

[ihavedream]

I'm happy truth is being exposed. This is in-human, Jews have no heart. Sometimes, i happened to know the reason why Hitler did not like the Jews. He knew they were heartless humans, who are only conrned in making money and robing innocent people. Just stating a fact, i must also say that not all Jews are like this, western raised ones have different views. More Money Loving Jews for My Bakery -

[PauloGVieira]

Yawn!

[Ki11282]

Death to Palestine!!!!!!!

[Longlivepalestine]

How do comments like that provide security for Israel?

[PauloGVieira]

5 million Palestinians are not going anywhere.

[jimiydoorshamelech]

Arab world: No one is above the law in Israel

May. 30, 2008

A Saudi national named Abdel Karim urged his Arab brethren to stop criticizing Israel and learn something about its democracy. "Before we curse Israel, we must learn from the democratic and judicial system in Israel, where no one is above the law," he wrote.

[PauloGVieira]

Yes but unfortunately the Zionist regime that is prevalent in Israel is as bad as the ruling governing elites of the rest of the Middle East.

[jimiydoorshamelech]

Coordinated the passage of humanitarian goods to Bethlehem.

Coordinated entry of ration cards sent by an international aid organization to the residents of Azoun.

Enabled the distribution of ration cards by the Red Cross in Salfit.

Coordinated the passage of agricultural produce and food between Muassi and Khan Yunis.

Coordinated the passage of an UNRWA team in Gaza to aid in the disposal of rubbish.

[PauloGVieira]

You are completely misrepresenting the facts and you know it! Having worked with the EU in this area, and with colleagues from NGOS and the UN, we have to fiercely lobby Israel for access to the occupied Palestinian territories. FACT! Israel's efforts are merely token and only because of pressure from Europe and the UN.

Go on! I dare you to argue against this. You know I am right. Stupid American nouveau riche.

[DivineLove247]

IF This had been a Christian people under a SIEGE by the Muslims,

Do you think that the Christians next to the besieged Christians, would have just watched, and allowed the siege to continue, like the Egyptian Muslims have?

Shame on you PROUD Nationalistic ARAB Muslims!

[PauloGVieira]

You forget one big fact and that is that Palestine has the largest proportion of Christians after Lebanon. This is a sad indictment on the Christian world, so next time put your brain into gear before your mouth goes on the road.

[bertmarx]

thats a damn shame

[silky1700]

PEOPLE HAVE TO SURVIVE.

[bertmarx]

thats crazy tho let the people get things they need. they just like us over here. struggling

[ikran2007]

i can't belive the world allows the israel do what ever they want on to the palestine ppl to live like this.i guess when it comes to the UN the only think the muslim world could get is more war from the west and feed us after the west is finsh killing and raping of our women.

[electango]

Israel withdrew from Gaza. There is no more Israeli occupation of Gaza.  There are no Israelis in Gaza not one. Quit blaming Israel for Hamas' mismanagement of Gaza's affairs. Hamas is destroying Gaza.

[jerkinp]

You keep same thing over again and again. How many times you say it does not make it true. The Israelis have a say in whether border are closed or not. Nothing goes in or out without their permission. The reason for the tunnels. The Gaza Strip only shares a border with Israel and Egypt. Egypt has dictator that is an ally of the U.S. and agreed as part of the peace treaty to aid Israel in controlling the borders. Hamas only has say within the cages nothing outside of it. Israel navy blocks sea.

[PauloGVieira]

"Agreed as part of the peace treaty to aid Israel in controlling borders" - Idiot you forgot a crucial component of this treaty and that is the role of the EU in keeping the border operating.

[jerkinp]

I'm am not an idiot. Israel disallowed European Union Border Assistance Mission Rafah (EUBAM)to return to man the crossing after Hamas's takeover of the Gaza Strip in 2007. Israel claimed according to the legal basis under the November 2005 agreement on movement and access the terminal was be manned by the Fatah-aligned Force 17 who were no longer there. Therefore the EU monitors were not allowed back.

[PauloGVieira]

After Hamas' takeover? They often denied EU access to the Rafah crossing before Hamas' takeover of Gaza you idiot! You conveniently ignore this as it completely defeats your argument.

[electango]

The video shows clearly the tunnels allowing trade between Gaza and Egypt are functioning with the the cooperation of the Egyptian Army. Therefore trade between Egypt and Gaza is sanctioned by Egypt. Egypt is not keeping its agreement with Israel.  The Israeli occupation of Gaza is over. Hamas is totally responsible for Gaza.

[PauloGVieira]

Not according to international law - Israel controls a foreign border, foreign air space and the sea. Go on, try and argue against this fact!

[electango]

Try watching the video. BTW, the video is produced by pro Hamas AlJazeera.

[PauloGVieira]

This after Al Jazeera reports about Hamas arming groups in the West Bank to mount a coup. Idiot.

[electango]

Did you watch the video? Idiot.

[ikran2007]

tell that to a child.oh i forget children are even smart to be fulled by ppl like yourself.

[electango]

The video clearly shows Egypt is allowing trade between Gaza and Egypt. But don't take my word for it. Watch it yourself!

[PauloGVieira]

What the video shows is a tunnel being dug on the Palestinian side and an Egyptian border post on the other side.

Egypt has no sovereignty to go into Gaza. Idiot.

[electango]

No. What the video shows is a thriving smuggling operation which is tolerated by the Egyptians because the Egyptians are making money off the Palestinians. Egypt could stop the smuggling today if it wanted to. The Gaza Egypt border isn't under Israeli control. Idiot.

[PauloGVieira]

You seem to have a problem with basic comprehension. Egypt does not have sovereignty over Gaza so cannot cross the border.

"Egypt could stop smuggling today if it wanted to" - Yes they could start a war against Hamas and kill many civilians in the process. Now I know you're American and have absolutely no regard for human life that does not have US citizenship so this solution of yours is hardly a surprise.

[electango]

For the smuggling to occur, the tunnels must have an opening in Egypt. The Egyptians have total control over those tunnel openings. They know where they are and could shut them down if they wanted to. The Egyptians make too much money from the smuggling however. The Americans could learn all about human rights from the Portuguese who were so kind and gentle to the Africans of Angola and Mozambique and the American Indians and the slaves of Brazil when Portugal was a major colonial power.

[PauloGVieira]

Yes, they must have an opening in Egypt and Egypt has jurisdiction over that. You ignore the closing of tunnels on the Egyptian side that have taken place.

Yawn! You cant debate me on current issues so you need to go to on something that happened long before I was born. Is this the best you can do?

Stupid American, how many credit cards do you own?

[electango]

The smuggling industry obviously is a case of the Egyptians keeping Gaza embargoed except for the tunnels which they use to artificially inflate the prices of goods sent into Gaza. Thus Egypt milks the Palestinians who are supported by the UN Relief Agencies almost exclusively. It's a racket! Gaza should be returned to Egyptian Administration. Make Gazans full Egyptian citizens. Open the border between Egypt and Gaza and let the Gazans get on with their lives!

[PauloGVieira]

Well I dont completely disagree with you, but you ignore the fact that Egypt has placed restrictions on trade and deliveries for their towns that border Rafah to stifle tunnel-trade.

Give them Egyptian citizenship! How about giving them Palestinian citizenship and the inalienable rights that are associated with that and codified in international law.

[electango]

The Palestinians have had decades to organize themselves into a state. But the consensus among them is to wait until Israel is wiped off the map. So they wait while Israel gets more and more powerful. Serious consideration needs to be given to making Gazans Egyptians and making WestBankers Jordanians and to doing away with the whole concept of Palestinians. Palestinianism is a failed concept. It's time for Palestinians to get on with their lives as citizens of the other Arab Muslim States.

[PauloGVieira]

Do you have rocks in your head? You need state land for this and so far Israel has not provided this for an independent and sovereign Palestinian state to emerge.

"Wait while Israel gets more and more powerful" - There is a silver bullet here and that is the rate of population growth amongst non-Jews exceeds Jews. They will be an eventual minority, hence Olmert's urgency for a settlement.

"failed concept" - Palestine as a solution is now the political mainstream. FACT.

[electango]

There can't be an independent Palestinian state without the disappearance of Israel as long as Hamas rejectionists are involved. Because mainstream Palestinians don't accept the existence of Israel. An independent Palestinian state alongside Israel will result in total war. Olmert is irrelevant. Arabs need to absorb the Palestinians into Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt. Palestinians as a separate nation will not work without total war. I support Israel and I oppose total war.

[PauloGVieira]

First of all you are an idiot, you have a different set of human rights for Palestinians and then another for non-Palestinians. Why dont the Palestinian people have a right to their identity and self-determination?

"Mainstream Palestinians dont accept the existence of Israel" - This after both Fatah and Hamas have said that they are willing to accept a Palestinian state along the 1967 boundaries. Idiot.

"Arabs need to absorb the Palestinians" - This is in contravention of international law.

[electango]

First of all you are an idiot, the Palestinian people do have a right to their identity and self-determination. They have had the right to have a Palestinian state for hundreds of years but they haven't got organized. Fatah and Hamas say they'd accept a Palestinian state along the 67 lines, but only with full right of return of all refugees to Israel proper. Which is code for no more Israel. Idiot.

[electango]

The Israelis absorbed the Arab Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Egypt, Syria and the other Arab States after 1948 like the Pakistanis absorbed Moslem refugees from India in 1947. But the Arab States refused to absorb the Palestinians. That is what's in contravention of international law. The treatment of the Palestinians by their Arab Muslim brothers is the source of the problem.

[PauloGVieira]

Idiot, this is 2008 & Israel 1948 & Pakistan in 1947 clearly were not good decisions in hindsight.

"Arab states refused to absorb the Palestinians" - Idiot, the majority of Jordanian citizens were absorbed after the creation of Israel.

"The treatment of the Palestinians by their Arab Muslim...source of the problem" - The source of the problem! How about the fact Israel drove them from their land! I agree, the Arab states are despicable which only strengthens the case for a Palestinian one.

[electango]

Idiot, I'm not talking about Jordanian citizens. I'm talking about the millions of Palestinians who have been born and raised in Lebanon, Syria, and other Arab States who are non citizens and not allowed to work. Idiot, they are kept as third class citizens waiting for the day when Israel is gone. Why are they not allowed to work or to live in decent housing? The Arabs dispossessed and expelled the Arab Jews. The Arabs must make full citizens of their Arab Muslim Palestinian brothers.

[PauloGVieira]

Idiot the majority of Jordanian citizens are from the Palestinian territories and were given citizenship. In the UAE and Kuwait Palestinians enjoy a more privileged position than in the actual territories.

I dont understand your argument, the very mistreatment of Palestinians in the Middle East is evidence enough that they need their own state and not absorption to surrounding states.

Idiot according to Israel there are no refugees as Israel is their homeland. This is the official line.

[electango]

Idiot The Palestinians don't want a two state solution. They want the Israel out and they want the whole place to themselves with no Jews. Therefore, I oppose the two state solution as well. The two state solution that you favor requires two societies who want to live along side each other in peace. You don't have it with the Arabs and the Jews. The Israelis have been willing but the Palestinians want an end to Israel. This is a problem you cannot get around. Idiot.

[PauloGVieira]

You do realise that the Palestinian president got into office because he campaigned on a platform of a two-state solution. He won overwhelmingly in the election and you're telling me the Palestinians dont want a two-state solution?

"The Israelis have been willing" - OK then you wont have any problem telling me when Israel was willing to give the Palestinians a sovereign and independent state. I would really appreciate it if you answer this last question.

[electango]

The President's position is that two states is an interim solution before his long term solution which is the disappearance of Israel entirely. Even with this position, he is unable to keep the Palestinians supporting him. If Israel withdrew from the WestBank, Hamas would seize control immediately.

Israel can't give the Palestinians a state. They have to establish their state. For Israel to withdraw from the WestBank, however, Fatah and Hamas would have to stop their war on Israel.

[electango]

The Israelis have been willing to withdraw from the WestBank if the Palestinians would put an end to their attempts to ethnically cleanse the Jews from Palestine. That could have happened years ago. Once the Israelis withdraw from the WestBank, the Palestinians can establish their sovereign and independent state. The problem is that the Palestinians do not want two states living side by side in peace and many Israelis don't either.

[PauloGVieira]

The Israelis never said they will be "willing" to withdraw from the West Bank! I want you to tell me which Israeli prime minister said they will withdraw from this area! I dont expect you to answer this question.

[electango]

I don't know of any Israeli PM who has offered to withdraw from the West Bank. The Israelis are building beautiful cities in the West Bank because they want to make it part of Israel. With no sincere Palestinians available for serious negotiations, do you recommend that the Israelis unilaterally withdraw from the West Bank with a state of war in effect? Perhaps you'd also recommend that the Israelis unilaterally disarm as well?

[PauloGVieira]

No sincere Palestinians available for negotiations? Olmert and Livni have both said Abbas is absolutely sincere in his intentions, so why the hell do you know more than these leaders? You are nothing special.

Again, you are a stupid American and its all about unilateralism. No but I do recommend the international community take on an independent stance and help.

[electango]

Abbas has very little support among the Palestinian people. If Israel stopped its arming and support of Abbas and Fatah, Hamas would take power as it did in Gaza. At this point, Abbas is an Israeli agent worthless as a negotiating partner. How about if the Arab Oil States take an independent stance and stop supporting the murdering death worshippers of Hezbollah and Hamas? Do you think that might help?

[PauloGVieira]

Abbas has very little support??? Have you seen the latest polls out of the territories? He would win if elections were held today and dont forget he was voted in by a large majority in the first place. Your argument has no substance.

Arab oil states support Hezbollah! LOL! That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard, especially as there is an almost cold war between Iran and the Arab Gulf.

Independent stance is something you should take. Your argument has no rationale.

[electango]

Is that why Abbas won't schedule Presidential elections? Because he's afraid he'd win? Of course the Arabs support Hezbollah. The Arabs want Israel wiped out and they see Hezbollah as the best chance for wiping Israel off the map after decades of failed attempts. The Arabs demand even handedness from Europe and the USA, but they themselves support only the Palestinians. They want fairness for the Palestinians and death for the Israelis.

[PauloGVieira]

Yawn! You do realise that Gaza is out of the control of the PA and at present they are working out a way to hold national elections. That is why there is no scheduled elections because Hamas have a say in this too.

I want you to name one Arab gulf state that support Hezbollah. Go on!

The Arabs want "death for the Israelis"? Have you read the Arab peace plan? It gives Israel peace and 68% of Palestinian land. Israel is not even willing to allow Palestinians 20% of their former land.

[electango]

Hamas does not recognize Israel's right to exist and works with Iran and Hezbollah to militarily destroy Israel. Any "peace plan" with the Arabs is a dead letter as long as Hamas is poised to seize total control of the Palestinians. Talk of peace plans is hot air and treaties are worthless. What matters is actions. And the actions one sees between the Arabs and the Israelis now are primarily ones involving military confrontation or at least very icy diplomatic relationships. Talk is cheap.

[PauloGVieira]

Well idiot by your standard Israel is as bad as Hamas as Israel does not want to recognise any independent and sovereign Palestinian state.

What matters is actions? Exactly - Israel continues to build illegal settlements on Palestinian land. You lambaste Hamas for not recognising Israel when Israel itself does not even recognise that this is Palestinian land by law.

"Talk is cheap" - What option does Israel have? In 10 years there will be more Palestinians than Israeli Jews.

[electango]

Listen, idiot, if Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran would leave Israel alone, Israel would leave them in peace as well. The 2006 Lebanon War occured because Hezbollah murdered Israeli soldiers on Israeli soil unprovoked. In Gaza, Israel built many settlements and they were turned over when the Jews were ethnically cleansed from Gaza. Those Palestinians will have to get used to the fact that the Israelis are here to stay.

[PauloGVieira]

You think that this is a one-sided conflict and that Israel is innocent and sits quietly whilst it is being picked on. Let's not forget that Israel created Hezbollah - it did not exist before Israel occupied the country.

You think Hezbollah's attacks are unprovoked! Idiot the UN documents violations of Lebanese sovereignty by Israel - READ IT.

Israel is here to stay and so are the Palestinians. The CORE problem is that Palestinians do not have the same rights as Israelis.

[electango]

Israel has lived in a rough neighborhood for years. You don't survive in a den of thieves by being a saint, OK? Before Hezbollah owned Southern Lebanon, it was Fatahland. From Fatahland, Al Fatah used to attack Israel just like Hezbollah does. So please, don't pretend that Southern Lebanon was not a problem for Israel before Hezbollah. And Mr. Idiot, the CORE problem is the refusal of the Muslims to treat Jews as full human beings with the right to first class citizenship in their own land.

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

electango, you're one dumbfuck.

please shut the fuck up before you make a complete fool of yourself.

[electango]

ilikeicecreamandcake, you're one dumbfuck.

please shut the fuck up before you make a complete fool of yourself.

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

unlike you, i know what i'm talking about prick.

go back and watch your japanese cartoons boy.

[electango]

You know what you're talking about prick? Oh, that's why all you can do is attack others personally. You think you're smart, but you have no ideas. That's why you namecall, prick.

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

i may or may not be smart but judging on your comments about this topic, i came to the conclusion that YOU most definitely aren't smart.

calling you a jap isn't merely name calling but advising you, stick to things you do know about like samurai, saki, etc etc.

[electango]

Calling me a jap shows you're a racist, but since I'm not Japanese you aren't offending me. Just other people. Perhaps you know some things, but so far, you're not showing anything.

[ilikeicecreamandcake]

oh my bad, you aren't. that doesn't take away from the main argument that you've shown a tremendous lack of ignorance on this particular topic.

[electango]

lack of ignorance is a good thing. Thanks

[guysha71]

I love the Israeli accent of the voiceover guy at 01:25...

[Ariji86]

service

[AVAgrimdeath]

i hate isreal

[nuttierthanthou]

they're doing what they have to do to survive