California does NOT have a stand and identify statue. There is NO LAW in California that requires you to produce an identification card or even verbally ID yourself. There are some exceptions however.
When a police officer says "I need to know who you are" he is lying.
Repeat these words "I do no consent to any searches of my person or property and I will not answer any questions without my lawyer present"
long beach pd like any other pd can be jerks they love to profile people and here in long beach they gave my friend a ticket for speeding on a bicycle lb is not a good place to ride bikes bike riders get more tickets then drivers on the road
@skyfire368 That's what you think. Try passing through Arizona and Cali. You'll have to pass numerous border patrol checkpoints (even though you're on a highway and not at the border). And they often times ask for you ID. Now they have dogs and will lie and say the dog alerted to your vehicle, so they can search it. America is not what it used to be.
They came to my house one night looking for my brothers homie and they handcuffed my brother (it wasnt a black and white it was the gang unit) an after they had my brother handcuffed they started jabbing my brother in the chest hard as fuck with their flashlights
I am curious, with all the information available here (now), how often this still occurs. A lot of people are now aware that you do not have to show ID, but should provide your name, unless you are: ..operating a vehicle, or ... part of an (I believe, criminal) investigation.
People wanna fuck around with the cops...they don't have time for your bullshit so if you want them to fuck with you back...then go ahead. Best thing to do is be respectful, cooperative and if you have issues, the court room is the proper forum.
@csbob2010 So just do as they say, when they say right? I believe you can still be respectful and cooperative with lawful requests. But you are not obliged to answer any questions, but still cops like the throw out the "so, you're refusing", which sounds of criminal implications. They use that threatening tactic as a scare tactic. Knowing the law and exercising your rights does not equate disrespect or non-cooperative. Cops aren't your buddy, so there's no reason to kiss ass.
Get a life and let them do their job...to many crybaby anal "let me record" cuz you dont know how to handle a routine T-stop....when bullets start flying youll be praying for officer marshall to show up...your tye reason ppl get pulled over...scumbag
This cop was in an unmarked huh? I think hes with the gang unit. He looks really familiar to the one that came to my house with his partner and started harrassing my brother because they were looking for my brothers friend and they started hitting my brother in the chest and stomach with the butt of their flashlights...fuckin dicks, I understand that they deal with a bunch of bullshit but they do a lot of unnessecary shit too...
@NoNotepad You NEVER have to show I.D. - EVER - unless you're engaging in an activity which requires a license. Then you only have to show your license for that activity (which may be a form of I.D.) That applies everywhere in the U.S. Your only legal obligation is to verbally identify yourself to a Police Officer. There is no law, anywhere in the U.S., that says you must own, carry, or provide upon request, any document of identification.
@tundra101411 You sir, are completely ignorant of the law. Cite me any law, anywhere in the U.S., that says you must provide any document of identification to a Police Officer, if you're not engaging in an activity that requires a license to engage in.
Basically, the actions the cop can take relate to how much basis he has for suspicion, and we don't know how much basis he had becasue we don't know what went before.
@boatbrain2 i gave (happily) my id, registration and insurance.. I have no wants/warrants/criminal record FYI There was no "probable cause" ... V. Marshall was just being a typical "full of shit" liar to manipulate the situation to his "liking"
@godblamesme Hi, I did not mean to imply I was taking sides in this, and I am aware cops often lie, just wanted to get the legal point out that how much a cop can do legally depends on how much basis he has to believe a person is doing something criminal.
It's called the common law right to inquiry you douchebag. What a wormy fucking tool bag the driver is. How about the fact that your bud is not supposed to be carrying someone elses ID. That alone would raise my suspicioun and warrant a further investigation.
all you inbreds posting on here thinking you know something about law enforcement. when an officer asks to see your id or your real name it is against the law to not do so. and filming the officer is also illegal
@LasLaderakids You, sir, are mistaken. Filming the police is legal if you are filming in a public area (streets are public). Laws for showing ID to police officers vary from state to state. People such as you show that they do not care much for their Constitutional rights. I wonder what would happen to you when you need to exercise the rights, but the rights are gone because people like you do not support them.
He doesn't have to know who is in the car: You do not have to identify yourself to a police officer. They can hold you for up to 48 hours for identification however.
@ALdawg1994 Well, according to Internal Affairs, and the Citizen Complaint Review "V Marshall Lied, BUT, LBPD Officers need to lie in the line of duty"
Fucc Long Beach Police Department.. Im Glad People R Standing Up and Starting to Kill Them... I Wish They All Get Killed In The Line Of Duty!!! Fucc The Ones That Have Already Been Killed.
@DartmouthAlum96 There are some VERY righteous LBPD officers out there! Examples would be Chris Rose and D Dominguez (both of whom have received heartfelt letters of commendation from the "driver")
The us supreme court has ruled that cops can lie to perps. that's what you are, PERPS!!! why do you have so much contact with the police anyway, i will tell you why, cause you are a PERP!!!!!!!!!! Why don't you get a life and leave the cops alone? Oh that's right, you're a PERP!!!!
@ammodawg7 and you are qualified to make that judgement? pffft I seriously doubt it. Put some facts behind your name calling, otherwise you sound like a first grader.
Yes, I love the curbside lawyers they get you put in jail everytime. Yes you do have to show ID. When your passenger in a vehicle youa are also detained. Just go along with the program. Gosh make the job sooo much harder. No wonder cops are always pissed off.
You DUMB SHIT!!!! When an officer asks you or anyone to produce an I.D. you have to do it! The cop should have locked your ass up for Obstructing! I would have! You sound really cute "Victor you don't have to show him your I.D." your a PANZY!
Roco huh, gay name for a gay cop. And all of u cops are PANZIES as u put it. I've won so many of my cases because of undereducated officers that THINK they are the law. Get a life pig.
If the officer can articulate that he percieved the operator and or passengers actions as suspicious he has every right to the common law right to inquiry and ask to see ID. The fact that he has someone elses ID on him only raises the suuspicion even higher. Your welcome for the brief education I just imparted on your ignorant ass!!
WOW!!! You are very lucky you both did not get arrested or shot! Be very careful what you point at a police officer during a traffic stop. Reaching around for a camera may be mistaken as you reaching for a weapon. NOT HAVING YOUR STATE ID OR LICENSE IS AN ARRESTABLE OFFENSE IN MANY AREAS!!!!! You are lucky he let you go. I don't know why you posted this. It's video of you breaking the law and the officer being very polite. Did'nt you say you were on parole in another post?
@joeybagadonuts69 No, i am not/have never been on parole. The passenger, maybe, BUT i gave the lady officer all of my paperwork. THE WHOLE POINT OF POSTING THIS VIDEO IS THAT THE COP PULLED ME OVER AND SAID "I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS" WHEN I CALLED HIM ON HIS LIE
@joeybagadonuts69 How is it a video of him breaking the law? An officer isn't going to just "shoot" him for no reason, and its LEGAL to film a police officer in public. You can't get arrested for not having ID, shit learn your facts you idiot
the law also states that you have to have some form of ID on you at all time in california. Also, if a peace officer asks you who you are you are required to produce ID.
Where is it said (or published as law) that a passenger of the car has to show their driver's license? They weren't driving. I would think as long as they identify themselves, there is no reason to show a driver's license.
ID means identification....a driver's licence is a form of ID...so how do you identify yourself without showing and ID....because you say your name, the officer should believe you???
Uhh, yes. There is no requirement to show a driver's license if you are stopped while walking on the side of the road. Why would there be if you are the passenger in a car. You are required to give your name and address. That is it.
Brendlin v. California, 551 U.S. ___ (2007), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that held that all occupants of a car are "seized" for purposes of the Fourth Amendment during a traffic stop, not just the driver.
OK one last time....you either have a state issued ID card or a driver's license which is an alternate form of state issued identification. If you are stopped walking down the street you will also be asked for an ID (DL or state ID). In California it is illegal not to have one or the other after the age of 15. You have to show ID whether you get arrested or just get a jaywalking ticket... In conclusion it is Illegal to be without proper identification in the state of California
Brendlin v. California, 551 U.S. ___ (2007), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that held that all occupants of a car are "seized" for purposes of the Fourth Amendment during a traffic stop, not just the driver.
Absolutely correct, you hit the nail right on the head jmagallanes!
godblamesme, and your entourage have absolutely no clue to the actual law! You try to make up lies that will only cause the people who are dumb enough to listen to you nothing but trouble and heartache! If you did a little research instead of making up stuff, you'd be much better off. Let alone the fact that if you don't do anything illegal, you wouldn't get pulled over anyways!
California does NOT have a stand and identify statue. There is NO LAW in California that requires you to produce an identification card or even verbally ID yourself. There are some exceptions however.
When a police officer says "I need to know who you are" he is lying.
Repeat these words "I do no consent to any searches of my person or property and I will not answer any questions without my lawyer present"
The End
Katoosha2006 2 months ago
long beach pd like any other pd can be jerks they love to profile people and here in long beach they gave my friend a ticket for speeding on a bicycle lb is not a good place to ride bikes bike riders get more tickets then drivers on the road
wcwickedclown 3 months ago
@skyfire368 That's what you think. Try passing through Arizona and Cali. You'll have to pass numerous border patrol checkpoints (even though you're on a highway and not at the border). And they often times ask for you ID. Now they have dogs and will lie and say the dog alerted to your vehicle, so they can search it. America is not what it used to be.
1775novten 4 months ago
They came to my house one night looking for my brothers homie and they handcuffed my brother (it wasnt a black and white it was the gang unit) an after they had my brother handcuffed they started jabbing my brother in the chest hard as fuck with their flashlights
LongBeachPits562 6 months ago
I am curious, with all the information available here (now), how often this still occurs. A lot of people are now aware that you do not have to show ID, but should provide your name, unless you are: ..operating a vehicle, or ... part of an (I believe, criminal) investigation.
c12347 8 months ago
People wanna fuck around with the cops...they don't have time for your bullshit so if you want them to fuck with you back...then go ahead. Best thing to do is be respectful, cooperative and if you have issues, the court room is the proper forum.
csbob2010 9 months ago
@csbob2010 So just do as they say, when they say right? I believe you can still be respectful and cooperative with lawful requests. But you are not obliged to answer any questions, but still cops like the throw out the "so, you're refusing", which sounds of criminal implications. They use that threatening tactic as a scare tactic. Knowing the law and exercising your rights does not equate disrespect or non-cooperative. Cops aren't your buddy, so there's no reason to kiss ass.
1775novten 4 months ago
Stupid people have nothing to do..... LBPD!!!
eriklocs 9 months ago
Get a life and let them do their job...to many crybaby anal "let me record" cuz you dont know how to handle a routine T-stop....when bullets start flying youll be praying for officer marshall to show up...your tye reason ppl get pulled over...scumbag
btownboozr 1 year ago
all police are pussy....grow a nutsack and go fight some crime cowards
91hatchb16a 1 year ago
his badge muscle, and inconvenience Victor.. (I guess)...
godblamesme 1 year ago
I, (the driver) am not/was not at the time/have never been on probation or parole.
The passenger, Victor, had his brother's ID because he had just picked up brother's wallet from the coroner.
I was not written a citation during this stop. However, Officer Marshall arrested Victor because "Now you pissed me off, so he's going to jail!"
Victor was released within an hour of arriving at the jail, as the officer had no reason to hold him.
It made Officer Marshall feel manly to flex
godblamesme 1 year ago
This cop was in an unmarked huh? I think hes with the gang unit. He looks really familiar to the one that came to my house with his partner and started harrassing my brother because they were looking for my brothers friend and they started hitting my brother in the chest and stomach with the butt of their flashlights...fuckin dicks, I understand that they deal with a bunch of bullshit but they do a lot of unnessecary shit too...
bradlyw420 1 year ago
@bradlyw420 No, he was in a regular black and white long beach, california police car
godblamesme 6 months ago
@ rhavec No he could not dumb ass California is not a stop and ID state!
GlobalMafiaWatch 1 year ago
Another prick trying to make a statement. Failed again.
bedlaminbelgiumroxzz 1 year ago
Prick cop.
amazinero 1 year ago
omg thats my uncle
cap1234567891011 1 year ago
This tape seems edited and one sided, but it doesn't seem like enough info for all the little arguments going on here.
OGGY221 1 year ago
You MUST produce ID when ordered to! That gay ass driver should have been smacked in the head.
tundra101411 2 years ago
@tundra101411 oh god I hope your joking.
You only have to show I.D. if the officer has "reasonable suspicion" that a crime has been committed or is about to be committed.
NoNotepad 1 year ago
@NoNotepad You NEVER have to show I.D. - EVER - unless you're engaging in an activity which requires a license. Then you only have to show your license for that activity (which may be a form of I.D.) That applies everywhere in the U.S. Your only legal obligation is to verbally identify yourself to a Police Officer. There is no law, anywhere in the U.S., that says you must own, carry, or provide upon request, any document of identification.
BloatedSensations 1 year ago
@tundra101411 You sir, are completely ignorant of the law. Cite me any law, anywhere in the U.S., that says you must provide any document of identification to a Police Officer, if you're not engaging in an activity that requires a license to engage in.
BloatedSensations 1 year ago
Basically, the actions the cop can take relate to how much basis he has for suspicion, and we don't know how much basis he had becasue we don't know what went before.
boatbrain2 2 years ago 2
@boatbrain2 i gave (happily) my id, registration and insurance.. I have no wants/warrants/criminal record FYI There was no "probable cause" ... V. Marshall was just being a typical "full of shit" liar to manipulate the situation to his "liking"
godblamesme 6 months ago
@godblamesme Hi, I did not mean to imply I was taking sides in this, and I am aware cops often lie, just wanted to get the legal point out that how much a cop can do legally depends on how much basis he has to believe a person is doing something criminal.
boatbrain1 6 months ago
It's called the common law right to inquiry you douchebag. What a wormy fucking tool bag the driver is. How about the fact that your bud is not supposed to be carrying someone elses ID. That alone would raise my suspicioun and warrant a further investigation.
girevik13 2 years ago
@girevik13 I am not a "wormy fucking tool bag," my passenger had his brothers ID because he just picked it up from the coroners office...
godblamesme 6 months ago
@godblamesme He should have never given the officer his name, as he wasn't required to.
1775novten 4 months ago
They don't call them PIGS! for nothing!
Action1Guy 2 years ago
all you inbreds posting on here thinking you know something about law enforcement. when an officer asks to see your id or your real name it is against the law to not do so. and filming the officer is also illegal
LasLaderakids 2 years ago
@LasLaderakids You, sir, are mistaken. Filming the police is legal if you are filming in a public area (streets are public). Laws for showing ID to police officers vary from state to state. People such as you show that they do not care much for their Constitutional rights. I wonder what would happen to you when you need to exercise the rights, but the rights are gone because people like you do not support them.
jhweather 2 years ago 2
Filming anyone anywhere in "public" even a police officer in this case a cop it legal in the State of California.
alacransinalas 2 years ago
fuck the police, the system is corrupted...no justice in this world
sannadreams 2 years ago
He doesn't have to know who is in the car: You do not have to identify yourself to a police officer. They can hold you for up to 48 hours for identification however.
lordpoee 2 years ago
did he lie? really? tell me what he said that was lying?
ALdawg1994 2 years ago
@ALdawg1994 Well, according to Internal Affairs, and the Citizen Complaint Review "V Marshall Lied, BUT, LBPD Officers need to lie in the line of duty"
godblamesme 6 months ago
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Fucc Long Beach Police Department.. Im Glad People R Standing Up and Starting to Kill Them... I Wish They All Get Killed In The Line Of Duty!!! Fucc The Ones That Have Already Been Killed.
kennethsteelethekid 2 years ago
It's too bad the driver and passenger had this experience. All of my dealings with the Long Beach Police Dept. have been positive.
DartmouthAlum96 2 years ago 3
@DartmouthAlum96 There are some VERY righteous LBPD officers out there! Examples would be Chris Rose and D Dominguez (both of whom have received heartfelt letters of commendation from the "driver")
godblamesme 6 months ago
fucken marshall you fucken dirty cop from west divison
Reptilekeeper08 3 years ago
Yeah that is the way it goes its not illegal for cops to lie to ordinary citizens but it is illegal for citizens to lie to the police. Go figure.
luke19631963 3 years ago
lucky.... it was day time......
rob31449 3 years ago 2
newbie cops think thye can run everything
chocolateFUZEEK 3 years ago
The us supreme court has ruled that cops can lie to perps. that's what you are, PERPS!!! why do you have so much contact with the police anyway, i will tell you why, cause you are a PERP!!!!!!!!!! Why don't you get a life and leave the cops alone? Oh that's right, you're a PERP!!!!
ammodawg7 3 years ago
hahahahahahahahahaha.
hahaha.ahahah haraha haha
davidoblue1 2 years ago 2
@ammodawg7 and you are qualified to make that judgement? pffft I seriously doubt it. Put some facts behind your name calling, otherwise you sound like a first grader.
godblamesme 6 months ago
Yes, I love the curbside lawyers they get you put in jail everytime. Yes you do have to show ID. When your passenger in a vehicle youa are also detained. Just go along with the program. Gosh make the job sooo much harder. No wonder cops are always pissed off.
Jay2pay 3 years ago
passengers dont need ID. It's not a requirement to have any ID on you. (unless of course you're driving)
potato790 3 years ago
You DUMB SHIT!!!! When an officer asks you or anyone to produce an I.D. you have to do it! The cop should have locked your ass up for Obstructing! I would have! You sound really cute "Victor you don't have to show him your I.D." your a PANZY!
roco12344 3 years ago
Roco huh, gay name for a gay cop. And all of u cops are PANZIES as u put it. I've won so many of my cases because of undereducated officers that THINK they are the law. Get a life pig.
ebinsoze 3 years ago
He could have taken you to jail for not showing I.D.
rhavec 3 years ago 2
you dont have to show an id if u a passenger! your not required to carry id if your sitting down on passenger seat! go back to school
lancerevolution1 2 years ago
If the officer can articulate that he percieved the operator and or passengers actions as suspicious he has every right to the common law right to inquiry and ask to see ID. The fact that he has someone elses ID on him only raises the suuspicion even higher. Your welcome for the brief education I just imparted on your ignorant ass!!
girevik13 2 years ago
yeah the officer has to tell u why he is suspicious of u when asking for an id.
lancerevolution1 2 years ago
Really!! Show me where in the law it states that little ditty.
girevik13 2 years ago
haha for ur information i go to college for criminal justice. do u even go to school?
lancerevolution1 2 years ago
do not play stupid with long beach pd over some fucking i.d. unless u wanna go to jail i,ve seen that happen
souljaboy132 3 years ago 7
pretty much
potato790 3 years ago
@souljaboy132
Jail?
Expect a beat down!
kenny1309 1 year ago
@souljaboy132 hell yeah LBPD dont play
FuckMainstream562 1 year ago
@souljaboy132 Yep, and Long Beach jails suck!!!
howiboy 1 year ago
That officer could have arrested you for parole violation.
joeybagadonuts69 3 years ago 2
WOW!!! You are very lucky you both did not get arrested or shot! Be very careful what you point at a police officer during a traffic stop. Reaching around for a camera may be mistaken as you reaching for a weapon. NOT HAVING YOUR STATE ID OR LICENSE IS AN ARRESTABLE OFFENSE IN MANY AREAS!!!!! You are lucky he let you go. I don't know why you posted this. It's video of you breaking the law and the officer being very polite. Did'nt you say you were on parole in another post?
joeybagadonuts69 3 years ago 3
@joeybagadonuts69 No, i am not/have never been on parole. The passenger, maybe, BUT i gave the lady officer all of my paperwork. THE WHOLE POINT OF POSTING THIS VIDEO IS THAT THE COP PULLED ME OVER AND SAID "I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS" WHEN I CALLED HIM ON HIS LIE
godblamesme 6 months ago
@joeybagadonuts69 How is it a video of him breaking the law? An officer isn't going to just "shoot" him for no reason, and its LEGAL to film a police officer in public. You can't get arrested for not having ID, shit learn your facts you idiot
burtontoker 5 months ago
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@burtontoker
>its LEGAL to film a police officer in public
- not in all states.
>You can't get arrested for not having ID,
- if you're driving and they can't prove your identity, you can
1111Davo1 4 months ago
the law also states that you have to have some form of ID on you at all time in california. Also, if a peace officer asks you who you are you are required to produce ID.
fabb3 3 years ago
Where is it said (or published as law) that a passenger of the car has to show their driver's license? They weren't driving. I would think as long as they identify themselves, there is no reason to show a driver's license.
Josiah531 3 years ago
ID means identification....a driver's licence is a form of ID...so how do you identify yourself without showing and ID....because you say your name, the officer should believe you???
geigeroo 3 years ago 3
Uhh, yes. There is no requirement to show a driver's license if you are stopped while walking on the side of the road. Why would there be if you are the passenger in a car. You are required to give your name and address. That is it.
Josiah531 3 years ago
Brendlin v. California, 551 U.S. ___ (2007), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that held that all occupants of a car are "seized" for purposes of the Fourth Amendment during a traffic stop, not just the driver.
geigeroo 3 years ago
OK I get that. But that doesn't answer my question. Why do they HAVE to show a driver's license if they weren't driving?
Josiah531 3 years ago
OK one last time....you either have a state issued ID card or a driver's license which is an alternate form of state issued identification. If you are stopped walking down the street you will also be asked for an ID (DL or state ID). In California it is illegal not to have one or the other after the age of 15. You have to show ID whether you get arrested or just get a jaywalking ticket... In conclusion it is Illegal to be without proper identification in the state of California
geigeroo 3 years ago
Oh!!!! It's a California thing. Must add that to the list of reasons why I don't live there. They don't have such a fascist law where I live.
Josiah531 3 years ago
Go get a haircut and stay off the weed. Please!
Jay2pay 3 years ago
Never smoked weed a day in my life. Thanks for caring though.
Josiah531 3 years ago 3
Brendlin v. California, 551 U.S. ___ (2007), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that held that all occupants of a car are "seized" for purposes of the Fourth Amendment during a traffic stop, not just the driver.
jmagallanes 3 years ago 2
Absolutely correct, you hit the nail right on the head jmagallanes!
godblamesme, and your entourage have absolutely no clue to the actual law! You try to make up lies that will only cause the people who are dumb enough to listen to you nothing but trouble and heartache! If you did a little research instead of making up stuff, you'd be much better off. Let alone the fact that if you don't do anything illegal, you wouldn't get pulled over anyways!
How about you listen to jmagallanes on this
pwhite73 3 years ago
what purposes of the Fourth Amendment?
kcig 3 years ago