If everything goes digital. you can say hello to a monopoly on the console market, namely Sony and Microsoft. I know Microsoft's Xbox Live is already expensive.
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Call me old fashioned but I really regret the fact that games, music and movies are all going digital. I love my physical copies and will only buy a digital game if it's at least 25% (dependent on the DRM, the harsher the physical copy's DRM the less valuable it is to me) cheaper. I never buy digital music however I will download music that artists put out for free, for example on bandcamp and as for films, forget about it, if I can't have a physical copy then I'll take my business elsewhere.
If I can't play used games on the new Xbox, I might as well not buy it. The problem for me is not because I buy used games; it's because I can't lend games to my friends or borrow from them. There are people out there who rather rent games than to buy them because they simply can't afford it.
@jackpipsam Like how will it work? Can I still play rent games from Gamefly? Or will it be a system where I can only rent from the console? If it's only from the console, that's definitely a molopoly, and I will not support that.
@OwlaFr Hey don't go bashing the Wii. It's not like that's all I play either. I play the Xbox 360 a ton as well, I just like Nintendo's approach to things. Plus, if you wanna go their, try this. "Yeah, gamers that play Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime, New Super Mario Bros., Kirby's Return to Dreamland, and more." I love how you picked the oldest/worst Wii games, but the major releases for the Wii are almost all award winning and loved, and it's been that way for many years.
@TheSyrupCompany It's just that saying "They let gamers be gamers." and speaking about Nintendo is bullshit. All they do now is selling casual games and consoles, making a lots of ads about their casual games, then brag about the fact that they sell a lot of their shit
@OwlaFr Xenoblade Chronicles is not a casual game. Madworld is not a casual game. Super Smash Bros.Brawl is definitely not a casual game if you actually wanna get good at it.And how do they brag about their sales? Every company is required to report sales, it's not a choice. GTFO.
I think that they should make it so that a used game has a shortened version or do something so that you can only access part of the content unless you buy a digital key for a used copy which you could get over XBL of PSN. That would make it so the publishers still get the money for the game and the stores could continue to sell used games.
I like to have a physical copy of what i own. And in chases like CD players, DvD's and Console games, I do not have to go and buy a bigger HDD to have room for the games, music or movies i'd like to have. I just need to stack them in a bookcase. And what's the point of a Digital copy, it costs the same as the physical one. But the only thing i have to confirm that the item is mine is the internet, Must i log into Steam, Spotify or some Movie site to play what i own? What if my connection dies?
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Now, i always use the brick and mortar stores as I like my games immediately, and i don't like the amount of download time on my ps3 for games. I will only buy new games unless a new copy is not available, for example a very old title. I hope that internet speeds become better, and then i will be able to properly get games digitally.
As for used game sales: Maybe game developers should make better games, ones that people won't sell to used games shops because they want to play it again.
Sort of OT but The textbook industry has the same problem. Used books are a big reason why text books are so expensive and they always print new editions every 5 years or so.
There is a very good article about it from APS. "college textbooks why are they expensive" in google and it will be one of the first hits.
Never heard of retail stores offering used copies when you bring a new copy to the disk. My brother worked at Gamestop for 3 years and was store manager for 1 of them, and they never ever did such.. And Gamestop are usually known as "the people who might pull something like that."
@Xdeser1 Actually, it does. Sure, one copy was bought, but the guy coming next buying the used game is a loss of game to the devs. Because 2 games were bought, but one was a used one. So for each game bought, there's possibly one game lost to the devs. (Yes i base it on that ratio because there are many who buy used and then sell it when they are done with it again, passing the torch, so to speak.) And to my knowledge, devs don't get a single dime from used game-purchases. They go to the store.
Man that npc has a resilient Trachea after just being stabbed point blank with more then a quarter of the sword in his throat near his Jugular Venous. 4:39
the only thing i see stopping them from creating monopolies is cross platform games. if gaming did go down the route youre suggesting then games that are released in multiple consoles would cease to be made. keep in mind many game dev companies have a big say in when, where, and how they're games are published so i really doubt any kind of console monopoly would ever catch on.
@skoja95 He's mentioned his view on making an ACTA video before. He does not really want to do it, so he won't. Pretty much, what he said was that if someone wants him to make a video, what's the stop from researching it themselves and making one or doing something about it in some way.
I look forward to the end of current second hand games market, so many times I have seen second hand games more expensive than a brand new copy or just a few quid cheaper. I mainly but my games from steam, purchasing when they have sales on and rent games from lovefilm to see if they are any good.
I'm mostly on the side of developers on this one, hopefully if they get more cash they could create new IP's and be creative again.
@DeathByOrganic You can rent digital games. But those stores that rent boxed games are just as bad as selling preowned copies. Assuming that they dont pay extra for rights to rent the game or something.
Could it be possible that the used market is only so big because development companies have forced it to be? Every "AAA" title has a 60 dollar price tag these days. Whether they're actually worth it or not, mind you. Would it be better if prices were dropped on new items?
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Digital Games really are not all that great. Think about it, would you rather have a disc copy of a game you can play whenever you put it in your CD Drive? Or would you rather have a system like origin and if you get banned on the forums, all your games are gone forever.
I don't think the used market should go away,they would have too much of a monopoly. Take the darkness, on XBLA it coasts $20 but on a used its $5! Now most would say darkness is a bad game so they want to get rid of it, but when all retail is gone you are forced to pay more for a game you might like! i am all for digital market but there has to be a physical some were, even if that means an online pass.
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@FalseNomen And it seems my initially positive impressions were off the mark. It has it's moments, but there are way, way too many egregious errors in design.
What about renting? What about bringing my brand new copy of a game I purchased to a friend's house to play or maybe try to convince them to purchase? Doesn't seem like something that would really go through, maybe a bluff by Microsoft to get the game stores to bend.
@Visseking Well i assume you didn't mean anything offensive even though parts could be seen as such :p However i know the value of money, just to clarify, and i've always had my own.. My little brother also has his own, but i still think it makes more sense for him to pass money to my parents and just get the item instead of having to leave altogether.. Also in some countries you can't get credit cards to buy stuff online before the age of 18.. Thats also something to consider.. :)
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Only making it possible to pay via credit card locks out a lot of potential customers - further on (and this is a problem children of next generation probably won't share with me,) my parents refused to ever buy anything via the internet :-/
Young people have money - it's been so for a long time and fully going digital would be a bullet in the gaming industries foot...
i personaly, will never buy a game were there is no multiplayer munctions, but i genrally never play a single player game for longer than an hour our unless my nets down
@Axeprot This is the stupidest reason I've ever heard, the mailbox is for listening to, not watching. It doesn't matter what footage is in the backround just play the video, leaving it running and go do something else.
I would rather spend 50 NOK (~$9) at a used game, rather than spending 599 NOK ($100) on the same game as new. Why? Because I cannot afford spending thousands on games that often only have a one-time playability, which often is done within mere hours. If the game actually would last for lets say 2 months, that's a major difference compared to games that are often normalized to be finished around the 6-8 hour mark. So it's all about the game developers and how much effort they put into the game.
A lot of what's being said here is pure conjecture and not really based on any statistics or facts. To someone who plays a ton of video games, PC games in particular, it seems like why wouldn't you have your games on the cloud?! No need for retailers! But a majority of sales for almost all games are still done through brick and mortar stores. TB's assertion that 'most gamers don't buy from a game store' is simply not true when you look at any data on the subject.
Question : Don't store chains such as Gamestop purchase their copies of games before hand and THEN sell them? I'm sure that Activision doesn't just GIVE companies copies to sell for free...
With that reasoning, doesn't said company already make their profit off of the sale of those new copies?
Reasoning behind used games but not used music CDs...
....Who the heck still buys CDs? It's nearly all MP3s at this point.
And as for used BDs...those are hella expensive PLUS I bet the chains know that the MAFFIA will end up coming after them with some stupid 'piracy' claims...*eye roll*
You really can't see why supermarkets only do used sales on games? REALLY? Games are £40 new. DVDs and CDs are £10ish at most. Used DVDs and CDs wouldn't be worth it from a financial perspective, whereas you can get quite a lot from used game sales. I respect your opinion on most things TB, but you really couldn't figure that out on your own, seriously?
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Everything would work better if trading trading games into the store only allowed you to get money off new titles so the publishers got their share and you could only buy second hand titles with your own cash.
@Chapter1987 Sure would, except that the store gets more money if you buy a used one than a new one so that's not going to happen. Whole point of that system is to get you to bring in more used games for them to mark up substantially and sell.
Of course, the stores' system could be ruined if someone put together a Stub-Hub type website to readily put people looking to sell their games in touch with people looking to buy used games. More money for the seller & better deal for buyer
Why do people moan about game prices? If you go to a supermarket or a game store you can get a new game for 35-40 pounds which is not a a lot. And if your struggling to buy games because your paying bills or your paper round doesn't get you enough, deal with it. Luxuries always will cost money. Just save up for a bit and only buy 1 or 2 games which you know will take up some free time.
@botchok5 the point is if you buy a second hand game the publishers don't get any money and thus the developers don't get any money, I am happy with how the indie gaming market is going but not the AAA gaming market, many AAA games now a lot of the work is done in Asian countries because labour is cheaper, its turning into a swetshop senario
@DibzIsHere No... the reason you buy a game is to play it, to have fun... do you buy a loaf of bread at the grocery store to support who made it? No, bitch, you buy it to eat it.
@NostalgicLink The problem is as follows. If you don't buy a loaf of bread and simply take it, you are stealing. The original is lost. If you pirate something, the original is not lost. If you don't buy a game, the developers get no money. If you buy a used game, the developers get no money. If you buy a retail game, only then will the developers actually benefit. In all 3 situations you "play it, to have fun" Clearly you didn't understand the point I was trying to make, and YOU facepalm?
@DibzIsHere What... you deleted your original post why? Cause you knew it was stupid. Why would I understand a point that you couldn't portray properly? And yes, I facepalmed... because you're a fucking idiot. Obviously when you take something without permission it's stealing. Obviously when you don't buy a game the developers don't get the money. Obviously when you buy it used they don't get the money. And fucking obviously when you buy it new they get the money. Your point?
@NostalgicLink ...so when I 'stole' that 'copy' (odd conundrum) of HL:2 and then bought it 2 years later (for almost 80% off, I'll add)...I 'magically' lost the 'stolen' copy?!
All these companies are doing is bitching about POTENTIAL sales, sales that may have not even gone there way in the first damn place...if 'piracy' vanished THIS instant, their sales figures would hardly budge...and THEN who would they blame?
@NostalgicLink Also...in order to buy it used someone had to have payed for the original anyway...they already GOT full price for that one and are now bitching that they didn't get a potential full sale because of the resale. Here's the thing though...if there was no used game, who's to say the person was going to buy it used in the first place? How do we know he wasn't going to just wait 6 months for it to land in the bargain bin for $9?
@darkwiz666 "Also...in order to buy it used someone had to have payed for the original anyway...they already GOT full price for that one and are now bitching that they didn't get a potential full sale because of the resale."
@NostalgicLink Bro, I didn't delete my original post. Learn to go to the second page and ctrl+f. How can you take something without permission, if you don't actually take anything? Piracy is not stealing, and If you can't understand that, then I am done talking to you. Even TB agrees piracy isn't stealing, it is copy-write infringement. I was simply answering your question with my first post. You asked why buying a used car is different than buying a used game. [post split since 500 char limit]
@NostalgicLink I'll try to explain once more for your simple little mind. The reason you would buy a used car (as apposed to simply taking it) is because if you just took a new one, then you would be stealing (from the owner). There is absolutely no reason to buy a used game (unless of course you want to give your money to the seller) If the option is available to simply take a new game, without the original being lost... Why wouldn't you? Your not stealing anything.
@DibzIsHere No. You're stating an opinion, dike. "There is absolutely no reason to buy a used game." The fucking reason is that some people have integrity and honesty; some people don't think stealing is the right thing; some people can't afford a bran new copy, but still want it; some people don't think getting a new copy is worth its price. I, like some people, don't take things without permission because it IS stealing. If your little mind can't comprehend that, you're an idiot.
@lupineawsome My used Charizard pokemon card isn't going to sell for $300 on Ebay, because it's used, doesn't matter that it looks near mint and I can still play a card game with it... it's not new so the guys who make pokemon cards aren't going to see any of the money when I sell it to a kid in middle school for $20. Why should Bungie get a profit from a used sale when they already got money from whoever purchased it in the first place, bran new off the shelf? Derp*
@lupineawsome What's your point? Obviously the used car and game are cheaper... they're used. Where's the relevance? My point is... why should developers be treated special when every other manufacturer of products doesn't get paid for someone else's transaction? The Halo 3 disc MAY still work just fine, but it's not new. My CRX works just fine, but it's not new either.
@NostalgicLink publishers help game developers make money, if only second hand games are bought, publishers don't get money and in turn developers don't make money, at least with second hand cars you know your getting an inferior product where as second hand games are exactly the same as new games
@Chapter1987 How the hell would ONLY second hand games be bought? Fucking idiot... the game has to be sold before someone could sell it. They made money on the sale of the game when it was new. If the general population doesn't think the game is worth pre-ordering and buying bran new then most of them will wait until some other poor chap buys it and sells it back... then they can try it for cheaper. You think I'm gonna spend $4k more on a car one year newer than one that works just as well?
@Chapter1987 Getting a used car doesn't make it inferior. And don't try to tell me not a SINGLE person on the planet has ever gotten a used game that wouldn't play past a certain point from Gamestop or whatever. Hell, I've rented games that look absolutely heinous and wouldn't even start. A used game is degraded, even if it was just opened. Try to sell an opened original Zelda cartridge for more than $50 on Ebay. It'll still play, but with all the other guys selling it used for $9, good luck.
@NostalgicLink The point is developers SHOULD be treated differently than other manufacturers because they don't sell any physical property. They sell intellectual property. When you buy a vehicle, you are paying for the materials. When you buy a game, you are paying for the development time. When you buy a used vehicle, you are paying for the materials. When you buy a used game, you are paying some random Joe. I want my money going to the person who spent time and resources developing a game.
@DibzIsHere Cause cars are just magically designed and produced out of thin air by a rainbow colored raccoon that pressed a button... no, actually, they're developed over time by people just like games.
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@NostalgicLink Your nitpicking. I had a 500 char limit. If you want to steal a vehicles design, and make it yourself that is not stealing. In the same way, by pirating a game you are using your own materials (your disc) and using their design. Writing the game to the disc is a fraction of the cost, the designing is most the cost. Manufacturing the vehicle is most the cost, designing is a fraction of the cost. So you can say you are paying for the designing (games) or manufacturing (vehicles).
I feel Game Devs think that we are lucky to play their games and without them we couldn't exist. A new product should be made with the consumer in mind, where the user benefits from new technology not the creator. I understand why this makes sense from a publisher's perspective but it seems that this is going a bit too far.I don't think I've seen retailers do regular deals that benefit the user like the digital market does. If there are no used games, I really don't see the point of these stores
@Steve0III It is the duty of the business to stay in business, y'know? If used sales are hurting the industry too much then it's on the devs to try and limit them somehow. The core problem really is the aggressive used sales method TB was talking about. When the cashier is trying to talk you out of buying new, its a problem.
Its hard to say whether Xbox is overreacting or not, without any kind of sales figures. Digital market is the future anyway, no used games there.
@SageVallant I like the single licence scheme where once the licence is used to create an account only that person with the account can receive new DLC and play on-line, buying a game like second hand this will only allow you to play offline.
@Steve0III its true steam sales rock, i'm pretty sure they work because people buy loads of games on offer that they wouldn't normally buy, why not half the price of a game if it over doubles the sales that month (especially when the game is a few months old).
i think, that game publishers should make a contract with store, that if they sell used copies of the game, they have to give some profit back. Because using keys just seems as a way to help piracy some more, as i bert you, that on the day of release, there will be cracked game availible to anyone, and if the gamers are forced to pay full price for games, they werent able to buy in full price now, i wonder what will happen.
Trade has always been about buying cheap and selling expensive aka: exploiting the market. I can't feel sorry for companies that only complain about the cruelties of liberal markets when their profits are affected. Of course, games are never "used" in the same way as say... a chair is, but let's not forget that you can't pull used games out of your arse, they were all bought new once. To buy a used game you need one willing to sell, so in the end this all boils down to supply and demand.
The only reason Steam is that it provides the best online store service.
It's not that there's no competition, as so many claim, there is simply no company capable of providing a quality service at a competitive level to Steam.
You can't blame a company for being successful and doing their best in an honest way. We do anyway, but that doesn't make it clever.
Actually there are a ton of used dvds, blu rays and sometimes cds in the states from what I have seen. Still it would be nice if the company's got some of the profit.
consoles started in japan renting/used is not legal to go on in japan?
Hollywood based in america companies encouraged retailers not to do used but rather renting via giving renting companies cheap media?.
Renting makes used movies not viable?
Solution more Demos and Shareware .. more account based progression. 2EZY .. the media shouldn't be the valuable thing. thats just a means to a end.. access to games is 2 hard atm. ability to play it with friends is what should be controlled 2ezy
@captainkaleb think about it this way. you buy a used game from a game store and no money goes to the developer. no money= no games. if you like a game then buy it. NOT USED . support the developers. nuff said
@456tarik Yes but why spend £40 on a new game brand new than £25 for it pre-owned. Not everyone has got wallets like bricks and i'm sorry but i would much rather keep my money than spend it on brand new for no reason. These game making companies or whatever are already rich enough so why would I give them all of my money when i'm not benefiting from it.
1- as is stated earlier, you're supporting the devs
2- the 'game making companies' are not rich, they SPEND money to make games for people like YOU. the least you could do is support them by buying a new copy.
3- you most certainly ARE benifiting from it. you played their game, didnt you? you enjoyed it(mostly) didnt you? you would like more games wouldnt you?
İ respect your opinion, but i realy hope people put more thought to it before buying a used game.
@456tarik Releasing a product for anything costs a company money. The idea behind releasing the product is that it will make money in excess of the initial costs.
These companies aren't going in the red by making a product. If they were, they wouldnt be in business. The difference between new and used is all economics. Game industries dont seem to understand the market. They could easily discourage used games sales, but the way they're doing it now just draconian and greedy.
@456tarik It should be an option not a requirement. If any game system restricted my ability to play any game i want then that system would not get purchased. And thus would lose more money. Its not like game devs are hurting for money anyway. It would do very little else than harm brick and mortar stores and alienate a customer base, who actually do buy some games new. I know of very few people who go all used. Customer can do what they want with the electronics that they buy
@captainkaleb His focus was on the retailers focussing on selling used rather than new that would be bad for the industry. Not that used games is actually bad
The best thing about buying consoles and games in stores is that you can go back the same day and exchange them if they are defective. On amazon it would take you a long ass time to first send back the faulty product and then wait for them to send you a new one.
Furthermore, they sometimes fuck up and send it out too late which coupled with a mail fuckup can mean you having to wait 3-5 days after the launch date to get the game you preordered.
We'll never reach a full digital market because of a few reasons. The average PC harddrive is about 1TB big. I imagine the most expensive PS4/720 models will launch with either a 750GB hard drive or a 1TB hard drive. The new blu-ray disc format supports up to 128GB. Supposedly the PS4 is going to use this new disc format. Just ONE PS4 could take up nearly 12.8% of that hard drive if we had to download it digitally. Do the math.
Totalbiscuit is easily as good as any economist out there right now. I study through the London school of Economics through their distance learning program (i'm a damn yank from Oregon). I can say that everything I learn from my studies has lined up with his arguments for all games eventually becoming digital, and the possibility of monopolization.
@evilmiera I don't understand how you feel that devs/publishers aren't being harmed by used sales....they don't get ANY contribution from them, 100% of sales goes to the retailer. How are they not being harmed by that?
Because that copy *used* was already bought brand new by game companies and sold and profits for the new copy are given to publishers even before new copies fully sell from the store.
How is used copies, basically ensuring someone else will use the games you no longer user *or want to* basically creating a gaming social network, hurting the devs and publishers when the number one factor that keeps publishes/devs going is loyality and that's built with all games.
@MegaShirley2 Kerns said it nicely enough, plus the fact that harm is not the correct word to use when talking about a store which has already been providing the service of selling physical original copies continuing to profit from them. Publishers might feel that they should get a larger slice of that pie, but they really don't have the leverage (or right) to use this to increase their profit margins at the expense of the stores. Well, possibly up until now.
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Disagree with company trying to tell people what to do with their product they bought or sold. And it does lose value reason why its cheaper then a new game.
what game is biscuit playing may i ask?
Audence 3 days ago
@Audence dark messiah. I think it's a heroes of might and magic game
YOUNGaz11 3 days ago
@Audence @YOUNGaz11 Might and magic : dark messiah i think
ironmaidenrlz1 1 day ago in playlist Season 1
Sorry im a boy and I buy new out used :<
Fonzy23890 6 days ago in playlist Season 1
Why does youtube try to reccomend videos I've already seen?
ularnek 1 week ago
TB, games can be compressed significantly to take up far less data than what you'll see on Blu-Ray discs.
Sicom6 1 week ago
If everything goes digital. you can say hello to a monopoly on the console market, namely Sony and Microsoft. I know Microsoft's Xbox Live is already expensive.
When writing this TB mentions the monopoly lol.
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gameXtract 2 weeks ago
Call me old fashioned but I really regret the fact that games, music and movies are all going digital. I love my physical copies and will only buy a digital game if it's at least 25% (dependent on the DRM, the harsher the physical copy's DRM the less valuable it is to me) cheaper. I never buy digital music however I will download music that artists put out for free, for example on bandcamp and as for films, forget about it, if I can't have a physical copy then I'll take my business elsewhere.
nintendopi 3 weeks ago 5
@nintendopi Yeah. It's more satisfying to put a disc in your disc drive than seeing "Download Complete".
aRMEd8uLL 1 week ago
You don't talk like that about used car industry do you?
tsjoencinema 3 weeks ago
@tsjoencinema Apples and oranges. If you were paying attention he addresses how used games aren't comparable to that.
basmithtx 2 weeks ago
If I can't play used games on the new Xbox, I might as well not buy it. The problem for me is not because I buy used games; it's because I can't lend games to my friends or borrow from them. There are people out there who rather rent games than to buy them because they simply can't afford it.
2anime4ever 3 weeks ago
@2anime4ever Rumor is that there will be a rent system.
jackpipsam 3 weeks ago
@jackpipsam Like how will it work? Can I still play rent games from Gamefly? Or will it be a system where I can only rent from the console? If it's only from the console, that's definitely a molopoly, and I will not support that.
2anime4ever 3 weeks ago
Well of course they want a monopoly. It's the most profitable business model.
McWipp 3 weeks ago
Dark Messigha is really good! A bit hard near the end but still good. :)
GamersReviewer 3 weeks ago in playlist Season 1
Anyone here ever heard of C-11? Thank god I live in the USA
hobbitkniver 3 weeks ago
I recently turned in my old Xbox 360 and was going to put the $77 toward Kingdoms of Amalur:Reckoning.
DeWraith117 3 weeks ago
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DeWraith117 3 weeks ago
This is why I'll stick with Nintendo. They don't pull bullshit like Microsoft. They let gamers be gamers.
TheSyrupCompany 3 weeks ago
@TheSyrupCompany if you like killing rainbows...ok, kidding. i just had to say that.
bezoro2008 3 weeks ago
@TheSyrupCompany Yeah, gamers that play Just Dance, Wii sports, Wii Fit and Wheel of Fortune...
OwlaFr 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@OwlaFr Hey don't go bashing the Wii. It's not like that's all I play either. I play the Xbox 360 a ton as well, I just like Nintendo's approach to things. Plus, if you wanna go their, try this. "Yeah, gamers that play Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime, New Super Mario Bros., Kirby's Return to Dreamland, and more." I love how you picked the oldest/worst Wii games, but the major releases for the Wii are almost all award winning and loved, and it's been that way for many years.
TheSyrupCompany 3 weeks ago
@TheSyrupCompany It's just that saying "They let gamers be gamers." and speaking about Nintendo is bullshit. All they do now is selling casual games and consoles, making a lots of ads about their casual games, then brag about the fact that they sell a lot of their shit
OwlaFr 3 weeks ago
@OwlaFr Xenoblade Chronicles is not a casual game. Madworld is not a casual game. Super Smash Bros.Brawl is definitely not a casual game if you actually wanna get good at it.And how do they brag about their sales? Every company is required to report sales, it's not a choice. GTFO.
TheSyrupCompany 3 weeks ago
I think that they should make it so that a used game has a shortened version or do something so that you can only access part of the content unless you buy a digital key for a used copy which you could get over XBL of PSN. That would make it so the publishers still get the money for the game and the stores could continue to sell used games.
VvICloudvV 3 weeks ago in playlist Season 1
because cds r $0.01 anyways....
PlasmaFilms7 3 weeks ago
eventually consoles will be adopting a steam like platform to sell all games on, and used games will be killed
cp3cp33 3 weeks ago
Wats dis game
ShanedawsonsrapistTV 3 weeks ago
I like to have a physical copy of what i own. And in chases like CD players, DvD's and Console games, I do not have to go and buy a bigger HDD to have room for the games, music or movies i'd like to have. I just need to stack them in a bookcase. And what's the point of a Digital copy, it costs the same as the physical one. But the only thing i have to confirm that the item is mine is the internet, Must i log into Steam, Spotify or some Movie site to play what i own? What if my connection dies?
iRackasher 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
TB and Phreak were back stage at a SC2 championship doing Benadryl. That's when the had the amazing idea to make the new hit game, League of Legends. While doing Benadryl, TB was being attacked by spiders, and Phreak saw what he calls ''the hat man''.... and that's where twisted fate come from. Its true think about it, TB isn't as popluar any more. So where do you think he gets money? Youtube? No, hes the co-founder of league. think about it.
TheMullenMullen 4 weeks ago
@TheMullenMullen Go do something productive, you're wasting your life...
WintherKnight 4 weeks ago
I'm in favor of what they did with Mortal Kombat. Anyone with a used copy would have to purchase a new license code to play online.
lucifershahal 4 weeks ago
YAY for ASDA :D
AwesomerAwesomeness 4 weeks ago in playlist More videos from TotalHalibut
wouldnt game prices on hardware, were there to be a monopoly situation, become a selling point of the hardware???
Pollution122 4 weeks ago
Now, i always use the brick and mortar stores as I like my games immediately, and i don't like the amount of download time on my ps3 for games. I will only buy new games unless a new copy is not available, for example a very old title. I hope that internet speeds become better, and then i will be able to properly get games digitally.
ps3man1998 4 weeks ago
i saw the orage box at a target at 20.00 the normal price at a target
MrCrazyscience 4 weeks ago
As for used game sales: Maybe game developers should make better games, ones that people won't sell to used games shops because they want to play it again.
DamnDaimen 4 weeks ago
Oh! I love watching TB play oblivion!
whippedcream91 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@whippedcream91 It's not oblivion
Flasyprawn 4 weeks ago
@Flasyprawn Sure looks like it or is a rip off. :P
GuncaFromlv 4 weeks ago in playlist Citi lietotāja TotalHalibut videoklipi
@GuncaFromlv Wrong again.
Flasyprawn 4 weeks ago
Sort of OT but The textbook industry has the same problem. Used books are a big reason why text books are so expensive and they always print new editions every 5 years or so.
There is a very good article about it from APS. "college textbooks why are they expensive" in google and it will be one of the first hits.
Briggie 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Never heard of retail stores offering used copies when you bring a new copy to the disk. My brother worked at Gamestop for 3 years and was store manager for 1 of them, and they never ever did such.. And Gamestop are usually known as "the people who might pull something like that."
Lumsie 4 weeks ago in playlist Season 1
Used game sales dont hurt at all, before a game is used, its purchased NEW! the Publisher and Dev has already made its money from the sale
Xdeser1 4 weeks ago
@Xdeser1
the thing is that these publishers want the acquire of used game buy a new copy of the game so they can earn more money.
DzoGavert 4 weeks ago
@Xdeser1 Actually, it does. Sure, one copy was bought, but the guy coming next buying the used game is a loss of game to the devs. Because 2 games were bought, but one was a used one. So for each game bought, there's possibly one game lost to the devs. (Yes i base it on that ratio because there are many who buy used and then sell it when they are done with it again, passing the torch, so to speak.) And to my knowledge, devs don't get a single dime from used game-purchases. They go to the store.
Lumsie 4 weeks ago in playlist Season 1
Man that npc has a resilient Trachea after just being stabbed point blank with more then a quarter of the sword in his throat near his Jugular Venous. 4:39
DarkLycanthrope 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
the only thing i see stopping them from creating monopolies is cross platform games. if gaming did go down the route youre suggesting then games that are released in multiple consoles would cease to be made. keep in mind many game dev companies have a big say in when, where, and how they're games are published so i really doubt any kind of console monopoly would ever catch on.
archkyle 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Wish I could get amazon/GAME orders on/before launch day. Still waiting for my FF13-2 to arrive ...
Horidikanas 4 weeks ago
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TB do a video about ACTA like you did about SOPA !!
skoja95 4 weeks ago 42
@skoja95 He's mentioned his view on making an ACTA video before. He does not really want to do it, so he won't. Pretty much, what he said was that if someone wants him to make a video, what's the stop from researching it themselves and making one or doing something about it in some way.
ExoTheMage 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@skoja95 ACTA isn't relevant anymore Poland is against it, as a member of EU, they got VETO and the law won't be passed unless all the members agree.
WintherKnight 4 weeks ago
I look forward to the end of current second hand games market, so many times I have seen second hand games more expensive than a brand new copy or just a few quid cheaper. I mainly but my games from steam, purchasing when they have sales on and rent games from lovefilm to see if they are any good.
I'm mostly on the side of developers on this one, hopefully if they get more cash they could create new IP's and be creative again.
icosiel 4 weeks ago
@DeathByOrganic You can rent digital games. But those stores that rent boxed games are just as bad as selling preowned copies. Assuming that they dont pay extra for rights to rent the game or something.
ItsJokkul 1 month ago
@Visseking Not if you sell cards at supermarkets and stuff like iTunes does.
ItsJokkul 1 month ago
Could it be possible that the used market is only so big because development companies have forced it to be? Every "AAA" title has a 60 dollar price tag these days. Whether they're actually worth it or not, mind you. Would it be better if prices were dropped on new items?
Tisel20 1 month ago in playlist Season 1
If only Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony allow third party digital downloaders i.e. Steam, Desura, etc.
Woody5600 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
US internet is terrible, I live way far away from the city and therefore it's not viable to wire higher speed internet connections that far out. so I'm stuck with super slow internet =/
benxr2006 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Kerns0Phoegon I didn't say it was a good idea. However that's likely how they are going to do that.
JamesJimRaynor 1 month ago
Digital Games really are not all that great. Think about it, would you rather have a disc copy of a game you can play whenever you put it in your CD Drive? Or would you rather have a system like origin and if you get banned on the forums, all your games are gone forever.
Azill132 1 month ago
I don't think the used market should go away,they would have too much of a monopoly. Take the darkness, on XBLA it coasts $20 but on a used its $5! Now most would say darkness is a bad game so they want to get rid of it, but when all retail is gone you are forced to pay more for a game you might like! i am all for digital market but there has to be a physical some were, even if that means an online pass.
zakt9 1 month ago
used tampons
ChibiGamEr 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
TB needs to stop putting ice on the ground, he can freeze enemies directly.
DekklinOfDeath 1 month ago
@DekklinOfDeath but that isn't halve as funny...
zx0luke0cv 1 month ago
@DekklinOfDeath at the beginning of the first video when he played this game he said that this game is not about efficient kills but fun kills
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TheMediocreShow 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
These mailboxes have convinced me to buy Dark Messiah. So far, it's surprisingly fun. I get kind of a Thief vibe, and I like that it supports stealth play.
FalseNomen 1 month ago
@FalseNomen Indeed =D
The game is quite linear, but alot of fun gameplay wise. Only been a swordsmen/archer. Never tried the wizard/rogue path =/
renascent88 1 month ago
@renascent88 Well, we'll see how it turns out. I plan on maxing out stealth and then picking up a few melee and magic skills.
FalseNomen 1 month ago
@FalseNomen And it seems my initially positive impressions were off the mark. It has it's moments, but there are way, way too many egregious errors in design.
FalseNomen 1 month ago
What game is this at first i thought it was skyrim but idk...
shamanskillz 1 month ago in playlist Season 1
@shamanskillz He says it at like the beginning of every single episode
Error52QFG 1 month ago
@shamanskillz the game is Dark Messiah
Thet3 1 month ago
What about renting? What about bringing my brand new copy of a game I purchased to a friend's house to play or maybe try to convince them to purchase? Doesn't seem like something that would really go through, maybe a bluff by Microsoft to get the game stores to bend.
DeathByOrganic 1 month ago
@Visseking Well i assume you didn't mean anything offensive even though parts could be seen as such :p However i know the value of money, just to clarify, and i've always had my own.. My little brother also has his own, but i still think it makes more sense for him to pass money to my parents and just get the item instead of having to leave altogether.. Also in some countries you can't get credit cards to buy stuff online before the age of 18.. Thats also something to consider.. :)
Metalynx 1 month ago
@Metalynx Thank you - of course i mean no offense towards you or your family <3
Only making it possible to pay via credit card locks out a lot of potential customers - further on (and this is a problem children of next generation probably won't share with me,) my parents refused to ever buy anything via the internet :-/
Young people have money - it's been so for a long time and fully going digital would be a bullet in the gaming industries foot...
Visseking 1 month ago
i personaly, will never buy a game were there is no multiplayer munctions, but i genrally never play a single player game for longer than an hour our unless my nets down
1337r34p 1 month ago
just so you know i dislike dark messiah so much that i cant actually watch your mailbox at all
Axeprot 1 month ago
@Axeprot This is the stupidest reason I've ever heard, the mailbox is for listening to, not watching. It doesn't matter what footage is in the backround just play the video, leaving it running and go do something else.
TheBrickOnTheLeft 1 month ago
the only good point about used games is how the hell do i get an origonal copy of a PS1 game? do they make new versions of them? i think not.
rjc0234 1 month ago
I would rather spend 50 NOK (~$9) at a used game, rather than spending 599 NOK ($100) on the same game as new. Why? Because I cannot afford spending thousands on games that often only have a one-time playability, which often is done within mere hours. If the game actually would last for lets say 2 months, that's a major difference compared to games that are often normalized to be finished around the 6-8 hour mark. So it's all about the game developers and how much effort they put into the game.
xzbyte2002 1 month ago
Why does TB think that he's so enlightened!
monsterbirdy 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
A lot of what's being said here is pure conjecture and not really based on any statistics or facts. To someone who plays a ton of video games, PC games in particular, it seems like why wouldn't you have your games on the cloud?! No need for retailers! But a majority of sales for almost all games are still done through brick and mortar stores. TB's assertion that 'most gamers don't buy from a game store' is simply not true when you look at any data on the subject.
nochtis 1 month ago
Dear Mister Biscuit. I have a fetish for your voice.
MaxWaters123 1 month ago
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brudagon 1 month ago
Question : Don't store chains such as Gamestop purchase their copies of games before hand and THEN sell them? I'm sure that Activision doesn't just GIVE companies copies to sell for free...
With that reasoning, doesn't said company already make their profit off of the sale of those new copies?
darkwiz666 1 month ago
Reasoning behind used games but not used music CDs...
....Who the heck still buys CDs? It's nearly all MP3s at this point.
And as for used BDs...those are hella expensive PLUS I bet the chains know that the MAFFIA will end up coming after them with some stupid 'piracy' claims...*eye roll*
darkwiz666 1 month ago
You really can't see why supermarkets only do used sales on games? REALLY? Games are £40 new. DVDs and CDs are £10ish at most. Used DVDs and CDs wouldn't be worth it from a financial perspective, whereas you can get quite a lot from used game sales. I respect your opinion on most things TB, but you really couldn't figure that out on your own, seriously?
joeleslie 1 month ago
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simonpopqqqptpqp 1 month ago
That game looks older but gameplay wise it looks 100X better then most games on todays market sadly!
OMGmaster123 1 month ago
128GB is more then double my laptops memory
Archangle40000 1 month ago
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TheMediocreShow 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I do hope retail never really leaves. I like my physical game-collection of games I really like.
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TheMediocreShow 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Everything would work better if trading trading games into the store only allowed you to get money off new titles so the publishers got their share and you could only buy second hand titles with your own cash.
Chapter1987 1 month ago
@Chapter1987 Sure would, except that the store gets more money if you buy a used one than a new one so that's not going to happen. Whole point of that system is to get you to bring in more used games for them to mark up substantially and sell.
Of course, the stores' system could be ruined if someone put together a Stub-Hub type website to readily put people looking to sell their games in touch with people looking to buy used games. More money for the seller & better deal for buyer
SageVallant 1 month ago
What are you talking about? We have used films and such in Norway.
iaMyla 1 month ago
Why do people moan about game prices? If you go to a supermarket or a game store you can get a new game for 35-40 pounds which is not a a lot. And if your struggling to buy games because your paying bills or your paper round doesn't get you enough, deal with it. Luxuries always will cost money. Just save up for a bit and only buy 1 or 2 games which you know will take up some free time.
MRFUCKACOP1 1 month ago
I would be happy to buy new chart games if they are priced at £20-25.......... But paying £45? ERRRRR NO thanks!
botchok5 1 month ago
It's not my fault 99.9% of publishers are profit driven, that's why I buy used games.
botchok5 1 month ago
@botchok5 the point is if you buy a second hand game the publishers don't get any money and thus the developers don't get any money, I am happy with how the indie gaming market is going but not the AAA gaming market, many AAA games now a lot of the work is done in Asian countries because labour is cheaper, its turning into a swetshop senario
Chapter1987 1 month ago
@DibzIsHere No... the reason you buy a game is to play it, to have fun... do you buy a loaf of bread at the grocery store to support who made it? No, bitch, you buy it to eat it.
Facepalm*
NostalgicLink 1 month ago
@NostalgicLink The problem is as follows. If you don't buy a loaf of bread and simply take it, you are stealing. The original is lost. If you pirate something, the original is not lost. If you don't buy a game, the developers get no money. If you buy a used game, the developers get no money. If you buy a retail game, only then will the developers actually benefit. In all 3 situations you "play it, to have fun" Clearly you didn't understand the point I was trying to make, and YOU facepalm?
DibzIsHere 1 month ago
@DibzIsHere What... you deleted your original post why? Cause you knew it was stupid. Why would I understand a point that you couldn't portray properly? And yes, I facepalmed... because you're a fucking idiot. Obviously when you take something without permission it's stealing. Obviously when you don't buy a game the developers don't get the money. Obviously when you buy it used they don't get the money. And fucking obviously when you buy it new they get the money. Your point?
NostalgicLink 1 month ago
@NostalgicLink ...so when I 'stole' that 'copy' (odd conundrum) of HL:2 and then bought it 2 years later (for almost 80% off, I'll add)...I 'magically' lost the 'stolen' copy?!
All these companies are doing is bitching about POTENTIAL sales, sales that may have not even gone there way in the first damn place...if 'piracy' vanished THIS instant, their sales figures would hardly budge...and THEN who would they blame?
darkwiz666 1 month ago
@NostalgicLink Also...in order to buy it used someone had to have payed for the original anyway...they already GOT full price for that one and are now bitching that they didn't get a potential full sale because of the resale. Here's the thing though...if there was no used game, who's to say the person was going to buy it used in the first place? How do we know he wasn't going to just wait 6 months for it to land in the bargain bin for $9?
darkwiz666 1 month ago
@darkwiz666 "Also...in order to buy it used someone had to have payed for the original anyway...they already GOT full price for that one and are now bitching that they didn't get a potential full sale because of the resale."
I said this, mate...
NostalgicLink 1 month ago
@NostalgicLink Bro, I didn't delete my original post. Learn to go to the second page and ctrl+f. How can you take something without permission, if you don't actually take anything? Piracy is not stealing, and If you can't understand that, then I am done talking to you. Even TB agrees piracy isn't stealing, it is copy-write infringement. I was simply answering your question with my first post. You asked why buying a used car is different than buying a used game. [post split since 500 char limit]
DibzIsHere 1 month ago
@NostalgicLink I'll try to explain once more for your simple little mind. The reason you would buy a used car (as apposed to simply taking it) is because if you just took a new one, then you would be stealing (from the owner). There is absolutely no reason to buy a used game (unless of course you want to give your money to the seller) If the option is available to simply take a new game, without the original being lost... Why wouldn't you? Your not stealing anything.
DibzIsHere 1 month ago
@DibzIsHere No. You're stating an opinion, dike. "There is absolutely no reason to buy a used game." The fucking reason is that some people have integrity and honesty; some people don't think stealing is the right thing; some people can't afford a bran new copy, but still want it; some people don't think getting a new copy is worth its price. I, like some people, don't take things without permission because it IS stealing. If your little mind can't comprehend that, you're an idiot.
NostalgicLink 1 month ago
@lupineawsome My used Charizard pokemon card isn't going to sell for $300 on Ebay, because it's used, doesn't matter that it looks near mint and I can still play a card game with it... it's not new so the guys who make pokemon cards aren't going to see any of the money when I sell it to a kid in middle school for $20. Why should Bungie get a profit from a used sale when they already got money from whoever purchased it in the first place, bran new off the shelf? Derp*
NostalgicLink 1 month ago
@lupineawsome What's your point? Obviously the used car and game are cheaper... they're used. Where's the relevance? My point is... why should developers be treated special when every other manufacturer of products doesn't get paid for someone else's transaction? The Halo 3 disc MAY still work just fine, but it's not new. My CRX works just fine, but it's not new either.
NostalgicLink 1 month ago
@NostalgicLink publishers help game developers make money, if only second hand games are bought, publishers don't get money and in turn developers don't make money, at least with second hand cars you know your getting an inferior product where as second hand games are exactly the same as new games
Chapter1987 1 month ago
@Chapter1987 How the hell would ONLY second hand games be bought? Fucking idiot... the game has to be sold before someone could sell it. They made money on the sale of the game when it was new. If the general population doesn't think the game is worth pre-ordering and buying bran new then most of them will wait until some other poor chap buys it and sells it back... then they can try it for cheaper. You think I'm gonna spend $4k more on a car one year newer than one that works just as well?
NostalgicLink 1 month ago
@Chapter1987 Getting a used car doesn't make it inferior. And don't try to tell me not a SINGLE person on the planet has ever gotten a used game that wouldn't play past a certain point from Gamestop or whatever. Hell, I've rented games that look absolutely heinous and wouldn't even start. A used game is degraded, even if it was just opened. Try to sell an opened original Zelda cartridge for more than $50 on Ebay. It'll still play, but with all the other guys selling it used for $9, good luck.
NostalgicLink 1 month ago
@NostalgicLink i bought dragon age origins used and it crashed on the title screen every time
Archangle40000 1 month ago
@NostalgicLink The point is developers SHOULD be treated differently than other manufacturers because they don't sell any physical property. They sell intellectual property. When you buy a vehicle, you are paying for the materials. When you buy a game, you are paying for the development time. When you buy a used vehicle, you are paying for the materials. When you buy a used game, you are paying some random Joe. I want my money going to the person who spent time and resources developing a game.
DibzIsHere 1 month ago
@DibzIsHere Cause cars are just magically designed and produced out of thin air by a rainbow colored raccoon that pressed a button... no, actually, they're developed over time by people just like games.
Just do the world a favor and jump off a 20 story building head first. Thanks. Bye.
NostalgicLink 1 month ago
@NostalgicLink Your nitpicking. I had a 500 char limit. If you want to steal a vehicles design, and make it yourself that is not stealing. In the same way, by pirating a game you are using your own materials (your disc) and using their design. Writing the game to the disc is a fraction of the cost, the designing is most the cost. Manufacturing the vehicle is most the cost, designing is a fraction of the cost. So you can say you are paying for the designing (games) or manufacturing (vehicles).
DibzIsHere 4 weeks ago
@DibzIsHere Lmfao...
NostalgicLink 4 weeks ago
@NostalgicLink If that is all you can say, does that mean I win?
DibzIsHere 4 weeks ago
@DibzIsHere Roflmfao...
NostalgicLink 4 weeks ago
I feel Game Devs think that we are lucky to play their games and without them we couldn't exist. A new product should be made with the consumer in mind, where the user benefits from new technology not the creator. I understand why this makes sense from a publisher's perspective but it seems that this is going a bit too far.I don't think I've seen retailers do regular deals that benefit the user like the digital market does. If there are no used games, I really don't see the point of these stores
Steve0III 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TotalHalibut
@Steve0III It is the duty of the business to stay in business, y'know? If used sales are hurting the industry too much then it's on the devs to try and limit them somehow. The core problem really is the aggressive used sales method TB was talking about. When the cashier is trying to talk you out of buying new, its a problem.
Its hard to say whether Xbox is overreacting or not, without any kind of sales figures. Digital market is the future anyway, no used games there.
SageVallant 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@SageVallant I like the single licence scheme where once the licence is used to create an account only that person with the account can receive new DLC and play on-line, buying a game like second hand this will only allow you to play offline.
Chapter1987 1 month ago
@Steve0III its true steam sales rock, i'm pretty sure they work because people buy loads of games on offer that they wouldn't normally buy, why not half the price of a game if it over doubles the sales that month (especially when the game is a few months old).
Chapter1987 1 month ago
Well remember that vinyl sale have increased the last few years.
Arian545 1 month ago
i think, that game publishers should make a contract with store, that if they sell used copies of the game, they have to give some profit back. Because using keys just seems as a way to help piracy some more, as i bert you, that on the day of release, there will be cracked game availible to anyone, and if the gamers are forced to pay full price for games, they werent able to buy in full price now, i wonder what will happen.
frederick123 1 month ago
Trade has always been about buying cheap and selling expensive aka: exploiting the market. I can't feel sorry for companies that only complain about the cruelties of liberal markets when their profits are affected. Of course, games are never "used" in the same way as say... a chair is, but let's not forget that you can't pull used games out of your arse, they were all bought new once. To buy a used game you need one willing to sell, so in the end this all boils down to supply and demand.
thehiddenplace 1 month ago
i would much rarther wait and buy used games becasue why pay £50 for a game when you could pay about £15 a few months after?
garywatkins153 1 month ago
on the one use code dice and ea did that with the online play with bf3
spicemint80 1 month ago
The only reason Steam is that it provides the best online store service.
It's not that there's no competition, as so many claim, there is simply no company capable of providing a quality service at a competitive level to Steam.
You can't blame a company for being successful and doing their best in an honest way. We do anyway, but that doesn't make it clever.
Blellowdb 1 month ago
Actually there are a ton of used dvds, blu rays and sometimes cds in the states from what I have seen. Still it would be nice if the company's got some of the profit.
WarMasterX6 1 month ago
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consoles started in japan renting/used is not legal to go on in japan?
Hollywood based in america companies encouraged retailers not to do used but rather renting via giving renting companies cheap media?.
Renting makes used movies not viable?
Solution more Demos and Shareware .. more account based progression. 2EZY .. the media shouldn't be the valuable thing. thats just a means to a end.. access to games is 2 hard atm. ability to play it with friends is what should be controlled 2ezy
heathkidd 1 month ago
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consoles started in japan renting/used is not legal to go on in japan?
Hollywood based in america companies encouraged retailers not to do used but rather renting via giving renting companies cheap media?.
Renting makes used movies not viable?
Solution MORE DEMOS YO
heathkidd 1 month ago
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consoles started in japan renting/used is not legal to go on in japan?
Hollywood based in america companies encouraged retailers not to do used but rather renting.
Renting makes used movies not viable?
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heathkidd 1 month ago
TB is now a sellout...i wonder how much they paid him to say used games are bad...
captainkaleb 1 month ago
@captainkaleb think about it this way. you buy a used game from a game store and no money goes to the developer. no money= no games. if you like a game then buy it. NOT USED . support the developers. nuff said
456tarik 1 month ago 5
@456tarik Yes but why spend £40 on a new game brand new than £25 for it pre-owned. Not everyone has got wallets like bricks and i'm sorry but i would much rather keep my money than spend it on brand new for no reason. These game making companies or whatever are already rich enough so why would I give them all of my money when i'm not benefiting from it.
uhMuzoki 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@uhMuzoki You have a good point, BUT
1- as is stated earlier, you're supporting the devs
2- the 'game making companies' are not rich, they SPEND money to make games for people like YOU. the least you could do is support them by buying a new copy.
3- you most certainly ARE benifiting from it. you played their game, didnt you? you enjoyed it(mostly) didnt you? you would like more games wouldnt you?
İ respect your opinion, but i realy hope people put more thought to it before buying a used game.
456tarik 1 month ago
@456tarik Yeah I do see where your coming from. Good points to be fair. I surrender xD
uhMuzoki 1 month ago
@456tarik Releasing a product for anything costs a company money. The idea behind releasing the product is that it will make money in excess of the initial costs.
These companies aren't going in the red by making a product. If they were, they wouldnt be in business. The difference between new and used is all economics. Game industries dont seem to understand the market. They could easily discourage used games sales, but the way they're doing it now just draconian and greedy.
LordN0rris 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@456tarik It should be an option not a requirement. If any game system restricted my ability to play any game i want then that system would not get purchased. And thus would lose more money. Its not like game devs are hurting for money anyway. It would do very little else than harm brick and mortar stores and alienate a customer base, who actually do buy some games new. I know of very few people who go all used. Customer can do what they want with the electronics that they buy
EvilDickism 1 month ago
@captainkaleb His focus was on the retailers focussing on selling used rather than new that would be bad for the industry. Not that used games is actually bad
MyBigToe 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@captainkaleb hes always said this, is this your first time watching him or are you just stupid? who would even pay him for that?
judgefudge1337 1 month ago
@captainkaleb $14.99
Error52QFG 1 month ago
The best thing about buying consoles and games in stores is that you can go back the same day and exchange them if they are defective. On amazon it would take you a long ass time to first send back the faulty product and then wait for them to send you a new one.
Furthermore, they sometimes fuck up and send it out too late which coupled with a mail fuckup can mean you having to wait 3-5 days after the launch date to get the game you preordered.
Solidus1086 1 month ago
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CrankyLeopard 1 month ago
Maybe they should games good enough that people wouldn't want to sell them.
1Scattered 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TotalHalibut
10-15% tax on all used game that goes to the devs.
29nomnomnom 1 month ago
@29nomnomnom
Then 10-15% reinbursment fee should be charged to the publishers/devs from the game stores, *from games bought back*
Kerns0Phoegon 1 month ago
Love this episode. Gives a good perspective on the whole issue. Keep it up TB! :)
Apk4llu 1 month ago
@Chibithor
We'll never reach a full digital market because of a few reasons. The average PC harddrive is about 1TB big. I imagine the most expensive PS4/720 models will launch with either a 750GB hard drive or a 1TB hard drive. The new blu-ray disc format supports up to 128GB. Supposedly the PS4 is going to use this new disc format. Just ONE PS4 could take up nearly 12.8% of that hard drive if we had to download it digitally. Do the math.
sabers2th 1 month ago
Totalbiscuit is easily as good as any economist out there right now. I study through the London school of Economics through their distance learning program (i'm a damn yank from Oregon). I can say that everything I learn from my studies has lined up with his arguments for all games eventually becoming digital, and the possibility of monopolization.
deltasword1994 1 month ago
@evilmiera I don't understand how you feel that devs/publishers aren't being harmed by used sales....they don't get ANY contribution from them, 100% of sales goes to the retailer. How are they not being harmed by that?
MegaShirley2 1 month ago
@MegaShirley2
Because that copy *used* was already bought brand new by game companies and sold and profits for the new copy are given to publishers even before new copies fully sell from the store.
How is used copies, basically ensuring someone else will use the games you no longer user *or want to* basically creating a gaming social network, hurting the devs and publishers when the number one factor that keeps publishes/devs going is loyality and that's built with all games.
Kerns0Phoegon 1 month ago
@MegaShirley2 Kerns said it nicely enough, plus the fact that harm is not the correct word to use when talking about a store which has already been providing the service of selling physical original copies continuing to profit from them. Publishers might feel that they should get a larger slice of that pie, but they really don't have the leverage (or right) to use this to increase their profit margins at the expense of the stores. Well, possibly up until now.
evilmiera 1 month ago
@RoberttheWise lol bait much?
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LMAOAsylum 1 month ago
Disagree with company trying to tell people what to do with their product they bought or sold. And it does lose value reason why its cheaper then a new game.
BoRISxBoT 1 month ago
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Kynamitem0 1 month ago