Poetry and performance are not mutually exclusive, surely? Ginsberg delivers his poems audaciously, of course, but then so does someone like Berryman (of whom I doubt anyone would 'deride' as a performance poet). All the best, Marcus from London.
Let's stay ontopic. Awesome poem. Nobody's saying this is as epic as milton or shakespeare, it's a small poem, but a very accurate and descriptive one, political, psychological and humorous, it's great!
I mean, I assume it's about the search for "weapons of mass destruction," but the alliteration, especially when read aloud, makes this very......un-impact-ful.
while i think men like ginsberg oversimplify issues at times, this bit has some wonderful rhythm and very accurately reflects the societal chaos and nonsensical implications of WMDs and violence.
You said it dinnerbuckit9. Allen Ginsberg is an endless gift to the world! I feel sorry for those of you who are to close minded and warped that you are incapable of experiencing the true and utter beauty that was and is Allen Ginsberg. An American Saint indeed!!
Allen Ginsburg is as close as we [ lapsed Catholics] get to an American saint. Yet free of the repressive Muzak. His life, from start to finish, was extra-ordinary for all the god reasons; he was kind, he was loyal, he was fearless, he was gifted, he was impossible, he was irrefutable, he was constant,he was unashamedly queer, he was lyrical, he refused hate.
rabmunch is just a common or garden megla-maniac. If you don't comprehend the enormity of what he's saying, 'you're a fool.' Personally I've no time for his verbal diarreah, and don't mind saying so.
rabmunch, I don't mean to judge and I hate to be among those who egg you on, but you really come across as a pretentious dick. But thats okay, because I believe in respecting people for who they are, especially if they express themselves as purely as they can, and remain accepting and open to criticism...
but maybe i'm just an idealist, or a foolish optimist. You might be happier if you were less of a cynical, magniloquent, malcontent. Very many people who knew Allan Ginsberg loved him very much, as do many who didn't. I wonder if your persona is so endearing... its certainly not to me. Namaste.
If it were so you wouldn't be judging me, would you? Futuere in culo, that was Gansburgh's whole heart and desire, as it was Burrough's. But I am not motivated by these common or resentful motives. You are too much of a blockhead to see them? Oh, you really are pale. Can you not even understand "contempt."
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Herr Dr. Cum-cunno: BA, MPhil, or PhD, Wont serve to uplift The brain of a flea. Despair of all that, And follow your star. With high hopes, aspire to the crown of the Wise, And stop fiddling wi'that thing which hangs in your thighs.
What little secrets are you protecting from view? You can take your Mensa and your Masters and clean your rear-end finely with them. You are claiming conventional honours? Well, Sir, I crown you with a sausage! Be sure only to eat it. Cover all the "literature" that your little bourgeois ambitious heart desires, but you shall know none of it. For "you are pale."
You speak like a small time financial attorney who draws up contracts. But it's the middle of the day, and WHY arent you at work?
What have you to say about the herd? Can you defend the herd, both for and against permissive egalitarian philistinism? What interests do you have? A little e-steam, and a lot of hot air.
Well, it doesn't depend on a taste for hairless boys. What about perverse insensibility? But the blockhead is merely an ordinary work-a-day bourgeois. SO in fact, he doesnt belong. Blockhead, have you difficulting with my meaning?
I have no difficulty with the English, or with the Irish, if you must know. But you are a blockhead, and I have a lot of difficulty with blockheads - as their heads are made of granite, like yours. I am glad you found my points ludicrous, since anything a blockhead finds ludicrous must have a strong dose of truth within it. What else have you to say?
with obscure shit like this guy it's difficult to seperate a man from his life's work. the drugs don't reduce the value of his work at all. it just happens that cocaine is intense
Per anfractus deinde obscurissimos egressus in hunc locum me perduxit, prolatoque peculis coepit rogare stuprum. Iam pro cella meretrix assem exegerat, iam ille mihi iniecerat manum et nisi valentior fuissem, dedissem poenas... adeo ubique omnes mihi videbantur satureum bibisse...
I never said anything about his homosexuality, but his perverse desire for revenge upon a society that would despise him, and his resentful hatred for that society which considered him "perverse." He had no inner freedom, like Gide. If you cannot detect is fulminating hatred you have no discernment.
Perhaps Mr.Rockit and Mr.Wacom ought to check out those webcamsingles.kom ? Well, if they can't defend Ginsburg's puerile and simple minded doggerel I think their time would be much better spent that way - and more enjoyably too!
What do you mean a "balanced critique"? I said much more in the groups of carefully chosen adjectives I used to characterize Ginsburg than you appear to have noticed. You should consider them more carefully. It's impossible to avoid 'satiram scribere' in this case.
Mr.Wacom, why do you suppose Ginsburg hated American society of 1959? Was he not a decadent, this man of corrupted mind and petty, obscurely perverse desires? He had desires that the society considered 'perverted' and he hated it for that. I dont believe he had a truly public spirited bone in his body. Do you understand what I am saying?
What Ginsburg writes requires very little talent, but derives its energy from the spirit of revenge against the society he hated; he shouted his accusations against that society in "Howl." The full weight of his attack is felt in its desire to be as offensive as possible, and to shock bourgeois sensibilities. Much of his ranting is incoherent,except for these characteristics.
Ginsburg was a nonentity, a passing fraud. But unfortunately his effect on America was great. His antic idiocy and histrionic nonsense could take-in none but real ignoramuses. He was pop-gutter performer. The decline in American education, taste, breeding, and strength of character explains his popularity. He was trash: so what does this say about the people who applauded him?
The character of the objections to my comments reflects the low class, rude, & ignorant character of the man who wrote them. This is not surprising as he appears to be a defender or admirer of Ginsburg. That, I suppose, is the type of fellow who likes Ginsburg. Just as we expected.
From Ambitious to famous for being a rebel, Ginsburg was a fake. He is really the spiritual twin of what he claimed to despise: bourgeois man. He was the perfect bourgeois, who tricked himself into thinking he was a ingenious and unique non-conformist. A man of resentment, and low class pleb who loved the gutter. He resented everything good, high, noble, priviledged, healthy, beautiful, sublime. He was excrement. Maybe like you?
From unmotivated and drunk to being President, Bush is a fake. He is really the spiritual twin of what he claimed to despise, an autocrat. He was a perfect autocrat, who tricked himself into thinking that he was a man of the people and a champion of freedom. A man of fear and doubt, and a scion who pretended to be compassionate. He resented freedom, democracy, diversity and intellect. He was worse than excrement, he was a fascist.
Mr.Rockit: your comic paraphrase has no bearing on anything I said about Ginsburg. I was not defending, nay, I did not ever mention George Bush. It is as stupid to call Bush a fascist as it would be to accuse Ginsburg of being a communist. I m sure that wont deter you. Obviously your thoughts about American politics are even more simple minded than most people's. Even moreso than Ginsburg's!
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hahaha.. " the vermin rots from it's own pollution.. The Kustlars..the Hoffmans... the Ginsebergs, the Learys,the Warhols... All gone to hell... The vermin... the vermin... are dying... yeheeyyy..." from the beautiful poem titled "Scowl" By Dr. Michael Savage. watch it at: youtube. com/watch?v=Pl9kc6aq_KQ
Queer, yes. Overrated, no. Kerouac's a pussy. _On the Road_, for one, is weak on more than one level. Ginsberg's real. It's not one of his best poems, but it's very powerful nevertheless, and relevant to our times.
I can't believe people ever thought he was talented
mooble1685 2 weeks ago
Vaclav Havel RIP
jonwy 2 months ago
pretty surreal comments on this vid.. also, Megatripolis. greatest club night ever <3
terrabun 6 months ago
Poetry and performance are not mutually exclusive, surely? Ginsberg delivers his poems audaciously, of course, but then so does someone like Berryman (of whom I doubt anyone would 'deride' as a performance poet). All the best, Marcus from London.
Denmark25100 6 months ago
非常喜欢他的诗歌，有种过来的朋友吗？
1214546151 6 months ago in playlist Allen Ginsberg
Zionist degradation
sidecrank 10 months ago
OBAMA~
Snotra 11 months ago
This isn't a poem, its performance art, its all about the delivery. Your not supposed to READ it. Your supposed to experience it.
AndyRiotRed 1 year ago
great!
s90skank 1 year ago
On this day/year I was born.
RebelAngel4321 2 years ago
Hmm...it's different. But I can't decide if I like it yet. I think I do? It is quite funny:)
Kellims313 2 years ago
ah, the monkeyreasoning haha pretty funny..
aLongTimeWaiting 2 years ago
Let's stay ontopic. Awesome poem. Nobody's saying this is as epic as milton or shakespeare, it's a small poem, but a very accurate and descriptive one, political, psychological and humorous, it's great!
Waranoa 2 years ago
Why is everyone marking down these damn comments in support of Ginsberg? If you fuckin don't like him then WTF are you doing WATCHING?! LOL
tall32guy 2 years ago
ginsberg was gay you fucking retard
xxsweetrevenga 2 years ago
what the fuck's wrong with these stupid comments?
ginsberg should have a fucking statue built to his name
iwannabeyourdog1969 2 years ago 9
67675656565655656565 is addicted to donkeys.
byrnzie300 2 years ago
worse shit ever
brunopappalardo 2 years ago
You are not sure he was a great poet? i am not sure of many things in life,but thats one.
tjdivers 3 years ago
Fraser has left the Planet...............
BigGNo1 3 years ago
Thanks. I may do just that.
WesFX7 3 years ago
I was there. It was amazing.
R0SECR0IX 3 years ago
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allen ginsberg was apart of the nazi party during world war II and idolised adolf hitler.
67675656565655656565 3 years ago
that's why he was Jewish right?
samboni10 3 years ago
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he pretended to be jewish to get attention.But in fact he was actually german and was a keen fan of collecting nazi memorbilia.
67675656565655656565 3 years ago
........
megsaari 2 years ago
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heres an interesting fact for you ginsberg was actually a massive holocaust denier.Who hated gay people.
67675656565655656565 2 years ago
Sure, and the Pope is a woman, and you're the Queen of Sheeba.
byrnzie300 2 years ago
ginsberg was addicted to vagina
67675656565655656565 2 years ago
this cat seems groovy
sullensphere 3 years ago
I really don't get this.
I mean, I assume it's about the search for "weapons of mass destruction," but the alliteration, especially when read aloud, makes this very......un-impact-ful.
WesFX7 3 years ago
i would have to disagree. the way he reads it defiantely adds meaning and impression to me. He has a fantastic speaking voice.
its more an anti-war poem then one on the search for weapons of mass distruction.
emmarayward 3 years ago
So true...
jonagwoo 3 years ago
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absolutely fucking retarded, stale air from a lost and dying generation that most could care less about anymore
bphutchins 3 years ago
poetry will cause controversy. This poet caused controversy it seems. Fuck'em. He could write.
kixjoy 3 years ago
the most cogent analysis of neo-con [foreign] policy I am as yet acquainted with. Amazing the power of the so called Dead.
molloyx 3 years ago
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allan ginsberg was anti semitic
67675656565655656565 3 years ago
he was jewish you idiot
bphutchins 3 years ago
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no he hated black people
67675656565655656565 3 years ago
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Alan Ginsgerg takes a little flesh bomb... up his ass...
ThomasDeLello 3 years ago
Honestly, why do you even bother?
rogonzalezr 3 years ago 3
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go fuck allan ginsbergs corpse u dickmuncher
67675656565655656565 3 years ago
while i think men like ginsberg oversimplify issues at times, this bit has some wonderful rhythm and very accurately reflects the societal chaos and nonsensical implications of WMDs and violence.
etroguy20 3 years ago 2
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i think allen ginsberg really just wanted to be something. poor allen.
APTAPTAPT 3 years ago
what's poor about that? I'm sure he had a hell of a time doing it
cockyrooster 3 years ago
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yeah, the dude "wanted to be" in a 12-year-old boy's ass.
babylongigolo 3 years ago
You said it dinnerbuckit9. Allen Ginsberg is an endless gift to the world! I feel sorry for those of you who are to close minded and warped that you are incapable of experiencing the true and utter beauty that was and is Allen Ginsberg. An American Saint indeed!!
BebsiButt 3 years ago
Allen Ginsburg is as close as we [ lapsed Catholics] get to an American saint. Yet free of the repressive Muzak. His life, from start to finish, was extra-ordinary for all the god reasons; he was kind, he was loyal, he was fearless, he was gifted, he was impossible, he was irrefutable, he was constant,he was unashamedly queer, he was lyrical, he refused hate.
dinnerbucket9 4 years ago
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more jewish commie garbage.
sutcliffe62x 4 years ago
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i always wondered what it was like hearing someone talk out of there arse
67675656565655656565 4 years ago
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fukin 5 year old could write better poetry than this shit. He sounds like a whiny old jewish faggot.
67675656565655656565 4 years ago
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i pooed my pants
67675656565655656565 4 years ago
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ginsberg is jewish p e d o !
Quex01 4 years ago
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Maybe it's because I'm not smoking a doobie right now, but this is pretty ho-hum poetry to me.
gldmj55 4 years ago
i'd love to read some of yours
chronodyne 4 years ago 10
B r i l l i a n t.
LunaSeaSane 4 years ago 2
I agree,all in all grand,listen and take it on ,nice one .
Arcthree 4 years ago
stop bickering and listen to poetry. that's what we do here.
RichyVapors 4 years ago
rabmunch is just a common or garden megla-maniac. If you don't comprehend the enormity of what he's saying, 'you're a fool.' Personally I've no time for his verbal diarreah, and don't mind saying so.
mink61 4 years ago
rabmunch, I don't mean to judge and I hate to be among those who egg you on, but you really come across as a pretentious dick. But thats okay, because I believe in respecting people for who they are, especially if they express themselves as purely as they can, and remain accepting and open to criticism...
immanentinfinite 4 years ago
but maybe i'm just an idealist, or a foolish optimist. You might be happier if you were less of a cynical, magniloquent, malcontent. Very many people who knew Allan Ginsberg loved him very much, as do many who didn't. I wonder if your persona is so endearing... its certainly not to me. Namaste.
immanentinfinite 4 years ago
allen
thentheychopped 4 years ago
Is the obscene only to be allowed to these corrupt and insolent fools?
How else can one lash them?
I speak the language and in the tone they deserve. I make them red. So, don't blame me... I didn't invent these democratic floral games.
rabmunch 4 years ago
If it were so you wouldn't be judging me, would you? Futuere in culo, that was Gansburgh's whole heart and desire, as it was Burrough's. But I am not motivated by these common or resentful motives. You are too much of a blockhead to see them? Oh, you really are pale. Can you not even understand "contempt."
rabmunch 4 years ago
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rabmunch 4 years ago
What have you to be ashamed of, Cum-cunno?
What little secrets are you protecting from view? You can take your Mensa and your Masters and clean your rear-end finely with them. You are claiming conventional honours? Well, Sir, I crown you with a sausage! Be sure only to eat it. Cover all the "literature" that your little bourgeois ambitious heart desires, but you shall know none of it. For "you are pale."
rabmunch 4 years ago
You speak like a small time financial attorney who draws up contracts. But it's the middle of the day, and WHY arent you at work?
What have you to say about the herd? Can you defend the herd, both for and against permissive egalitarian philistinism? What interests do you have? A little e-steam, and a lot of hot air.
rabmunch 4 years ago
For those who have difficulting with English:
which of the following doesnt belong?
A) Ginsberg
B) Jeffrey Dahmer
c) Dmitri Vladimirovich Kuznetsov
d) charles Manson
e) the blockhead
f) none of the above, they are all of the same spirit.
Answer: 'e' or 'f'
rabmunch 4 years ago
Does the blockhead belong or doesnt he?
Well, it doesn't depend on a taste for hairless boys. What about perverse insensibility? But the blockhead is merely an ordinary work-a-day bourgeois. SO in fact, he doesnt belong. Blockhead, have you difficulting with my meaning?
rabmunch 4 years ago
I have no difficulty with the English, or with the Irish, if you must know. But you are a blockhead, and I have a lot of difficulty with blockheads - as their heads are made of granite, like yours. I am glad you found my points ludicrous, since anything a blockhead finds ludicrous must have a strong dose of truth within it. What else have you to say?
rabmunch 4 years ago
with obscure shit like this guy it's difficult to seperate a man from his life's work. the drugs don't reduce the value of his work at all. it just happens that cocaine is intense
upabittoolate 4 years ago
Per anfractus deinde obscurissimos egressus in hunc locum me perduxit, prolatoque peculis coepit rogare stuprum. Iam pro cella meretrix assem exegerat, iam ille mihi iniecerat manum et nisi valentior fuissem, dedissem poenas... adeo ubique omnes mihi videbantur satureum bibisse...
rabmunch 4 years ago
Why did you bomb?
We didn't want to bomb.
Who said bomb?
Who said we had a bomb.
Classic!!!
Pojothepanda 4 years ago
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For those who have difficulting with English:
which of the following doesnt belong?
A) Ginsberg
B) Jeffrey Dahmer
c) Dmitri Vladimirovich Kuznetsov
d) charles Manson
e) none of the above, they are all of the same spirit.
Answer: e.
rabmunch 4 years ago
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I never said anything about his homosexuality, but his perverse desire for revenge upon a society that would despise him, and his resentful hatred for that society which considered him "perverse." He had no inner freedom, like Gide. If you cannot detect is fulminating hatred you have no discernment.
rabmunch 4 years ago
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Perhaps Mr.Rockit and Mr.Wacom ought to check out those webcamsingles.kom ? Well, if they can't defend Ginsburg's puerile and simple minded doggerel I think their time would be much better spent that way - and more enjoyably too!
rabmunch 4 years ago
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What do you mean a "balanced critique"? I said much more in the groups of carefully chosen adjectives I used to characterize Ginsburg than you appear to have noticed. You should consider them more carefully. It's impossible to avoid 'satiram scribere' in this case.
rabmunch 4 years ago
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Mr.Wacom, why do you suppose Ginsburg hated American society of 1959? Was he not a decadent, this man of corrupted mind and petty, obscurely perverse desires? He had desires that the society considered 'perverted' and he hated it for that. I dont believe he had a truly public spirited bone in his body. Do you understand what I am saying?
rabmunch 4 years ago
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What Ginsburg writes requires very little talent, but derives its energy from the spirit of revenge against the society he hated; he shouted his accusations against that society in "Howl." The full weight of his attack is felt in its desire to be as offensive as possible, and to shock bourgeois sensibilities. Much of his ranting is incoherent,except for these characteristics.
rabmunch 4 years ago
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I am sure those webcam singles are better viewing than Ginsburg.
rabmunch 4 years ago
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Ginsburg was a nonentity, a passing fraud. But unfortunately his effect on America was great. His antic idiocy and histrionic nonsense could take-in none but real ignoramuses. He was pop-gutter performer. The decline in American education, taste, breeding, and strength of character explains his popularity. He was trash: so what does this say about the people who applauded him?
rabmunch 4 years ago
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Stand up comedian. Fool.
The Audience is the biggest fool.
This is proof of "L'insupportabilité de la sottise humaine" (Flaubert)
rabmunch 4 years ago
you are a facsist moron
rockitdude 4 years ago
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The character of the objections to my comments reflects the low class, rude, & ignorant character of the man who wrote them. This is not surprising as he appears to be a defender or admirer of Ginsburg. That, I suppose, is the type of fellow who likes Ginsburg. Just as we expected.
rabmunch 4 years ago
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From Ambitious to famous for being a rebel, Ginsburg was a fake. He is really the spiritual twin of what he claimed to despise: bourgeois man. He was the perfect bourgeois, who tricked himself into thinking he was a ingenious and unique non-conformist. A man of resentment, and low class pleb who loved the gutter. He resented everything good, high, noble, priviledged, healthy, beautiful, sublime. He was excrement. Maybe like you?
rabmunch 4 years ago
From unmotivated and drunk to being President, Bush is a fake. He is really the spiritual twin of what he claimed to despise, an autocrat. He was a perfect autocrat, who tricked himself into thinking that he was a man of the people and a champion of freedom. A man of fear and doubt, and a scion who pretended to be compassionate. He resented freedom, democracy, diversity and intellect. He was worse than excrement, he was a fascist.
rockitdude 4 years ago
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Mr.Rockit: your comic paraphrase has no bearing on anything I said about Ginsburg. I was not defending, nay, I did not ever mention George Bush. It is as stupid to call Bush a fascist as it would be to accuse Ginsburg of being a communist. I m sure that wont deter you. Obviously your thoughts about American politics are even more simple minded than most people's. Even moreso than Ginsburg's!
rabmunch 4 years ago
you have to see "Omnivoro" of peruvian poet Rodolfo Ybarra
marthabieberach 4 years ago
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hahaha.. " the vermin rots from it's own pollution.. The Kustlars..the Hoffmans... the Ginsebergs, the Learys,the Warhols... All gone to hell... The vermin... the vermin... are dying... yeheeyyy..." from the beautiful poem titled "Scowl" By Dr. Michael Savage. watch it at: youtube. com/watch?v=Pl9kc6aq_KQ
KeMonit0 4 years ago
awsome, he was one of a kind genious
nickw66 4 years ago
how is it that he is so current.
drzendoom 4 years ago
poetic idiot
endgammer 4 years ago
don't worry you're OK.
OscarLimaMike 4 years ago
tongue is sharper than a sword or a bomb
Rasscoco 4 years ago
ginsberg. absolute brilliance.
eC987 5 years ago
Queer, yes. Overrated, no. Kerouac's a pussy. _On the Road_, for one, is weak on more than one level. Ginsberg's real. It's not one of his best poems, but it's very powerful nevertheless, and relevant to our times.
NihilAdmirari 5 years ago
I hope he's topping Ezra Pound in heaven.
MtFujiInMyPantsSUGOI 5 years ago
poetic genius
hoffythesizzle 5 years ago
What a douche
ff7wasbest 5 years ago
Even in his last days he was full of life and youthfulness, i don't think a bomb could even come close to having as much energy as allen ginsberg
wjesse 5 years ago
this is called "whom bom"
amphymixis 5 years ago
what is the title of this poem. allen ginsberg is amazing! :)
Lisenfisen 5 years ago