Commentary Version of "CSE Promo with Eric Hovind"

[shagoosty]

The Bible told me it's ok to have slaves as long as they are from another country.

[karlkarlkarl1234]

I would shoot myself in the head out of embarassment if my father was Kent Hovind, not advertise my ugly mug publicly

[Ansonidak]

Actually incredible is an excellent word to describe special creation by using the original definition of the word meaning "not credible". Of course Hovind is implying the alternate and nowadays more common definition meaning "amazing".

[TheLizardPeople]

Creation Science Ministry contains no information and has never performed any research. Every word out of the mouth of this dirtbag is a lie, ALL of CSE Ministries is a fraud, as is well recognized. The more these quacks and fraudsters are exposed the better...well done!

[DeltaAtheism]

Yes, that is it.

[urantivirus]

I'd keep your anotations up to date with the disablility of your ratings.

[DeltaAtheism]

I plan to reopen the ratings at some point in the future, making the annotation possibly useful.

[hoffman164]

The claim that african americans have dark skin because they are black, I believe, only exists in mormon doctrine. If someone can correct me on that it would be great, but from what I am familiar with it is strictly mormon ideology.

[DeltaAtheism]

It is almost exclusive to Mormonism, yes, but there are those who bring it to more "mainstream" Christianity. Usually, they are just racist evangelical bigots.

[Ekendil]

Hahaha "You're supposed to capitalise".

[DeltaAtheism]

It is true. While I am shredding and dismantling Hovind, I might as well go after his shoddy grammar, too.

[blade004]

oh man! would someone please just HEAD BUTT this STUPID, IGNORANT, IDIOTIC, MORONIC FUCK WIT known as HOVIND!! ... Do the world a fucking favour Hovind and go visit your fucking God!

[DeltaAtheism]

That would be a bit extreme...

[blade004]

@DeltaAtheism : When you consider the alternative of him breeding and producing more of the Hovind clan, it starts to become quite clear that him remaining on this earth might be too extreme for humanity ;)

[DeltaAtheism]

But even Hovind - hell, even Fred Phelps - has the right to life. They are sentient beings who possess the same basic rights we do.

Also, the Hovinds are not taken seriously by too many - even other vocal creationists like Ken Ham ridicule them.

[philosophyphantic199]

@blade004 <3

[Isaiahipod]

Dude. Really? Just for a few hours forgat everything you where told and think. I bet if it were posible to do that, you would be open to truth.

[DeltaAtheism]

If you are talking to Hovind:

I agree. It is difficult, however, to undo brainwashing, especially at his age.

If you are talking to me: How amusing. You tell me that to believe, I must discard all knowledge. Thank you for inadvertently demolishing your own case.

[RockSmithStudio]

"In fact, go ahead and burn it. It's more poetic."

HAHAHA!!!

[LogicIsDying]

I can easily laugh at Eric Hovind in this video (or any video he's in for that matter) and if it was just him talking I'd love his video just for the madnes of it.

But I really, really, fucking hate this one. Not for the lies, I've come to expect that from Hovinds, but for the voice overs for the "four great questions". The painfully awful echo sound effect they go with, the stuid clips, and that glare filter. I know it's an odd thing to get hung up on but I find them to be beyond obnoxious.

[DeltaAtheism]

Yes, I have problems with audio.

Which is why my account is currently dormant.

[LogicIsDying]

@DeltaAtheism

Did you think I was talking about your audio? No I was talking about Eric's video. I've seen his video a few times and every time it gets to those questions the sound ticks me right off.

[DeltaAtheism]

Oh.

Yes, I did think you were talking about my audio; so many people have noticed the poor results from the processing of my voice.

[LoopDeLoopOfHenle]

I've come to the conclusion that CSE's idea of research is quote mining legitimate scientific experts and providing vague Biblical references to somehow support their claims. It actually makes me chuckle thinking about them in their "research" facilities pouring over the Bible looking for evidence that it's scientific. "Look Eric, they call Earth a circle in verse nine! This proves the 4,000 year old mystics knew much, much more than the geologists and cosmologists today!"

[tbcslayer]

i swear i have a friend who used to be a christian and he kinda was into creatiosm .but after he saw erick hovind and kent he started to research for himself and he now says he is an atheist thx to erick hovind and his convicted father lmao .

[DeltaAtheism]

Yes, that appears to happen rather often. I have met many who have functionally identical stories.

[noliesundead]

well done 5 stars if i could vote

[HolyN0va]

Although I do believe in God (I'm more spiritual than religious, doesn't mean I'm not religious), I don't believe in the same God that these people spread. This was probably the greatest serving of pwnage I've ever seen. BTW, I reject the creationism theory and accept that the beginning of the universe was a scientific unknown

[DeltaAtheism]

Then there is nothing wrong with what you believe, as it does not have the potential for damage, death, and destruction that other religions have (and that I criticize religion for).

[GohModley]

@HolyN0va What kind of god do you believe in? What evidence do you you have of your god's existence?

[pointmanzero]

HAHAHA!!! It's funny because hovind is retarded!!!

[DeltaAtheism]

Brainwashed, which has the same manifestation, yes.

[jewellx80]

U said forchrissakes! hehehe

[DeltaAtheism]

Yes, it has become an element of language.

[artyfarty2]

No rating?

No watching!

[DeltaAtheism]

Your perogative.

One note: I disable ratings as a form of votebot protection. I made a video on that, you can watch it if you so desire.

Indeed, as I write this comment, the freethinking community is cleaning up after a wave last night.

[artyfarty2]

I apply the same rule to anyone that does this. It's almost unanimously creationists that disable ratings and even comments. I realise you are not a creationist, but I have no intention of being a hypocrite. There really is no need for you to do this.

[DeltaAtheism]

See my video on this; I get a great many comments to this effect.

/watch?v=kM4W3M8Vg-A

[artyfarty2]

Nope, not impressed. If you are worried about votebotting, add an annotation asking viewers to rate to dilute votebots. Then send links to your videos to FFreeThinker. If he likes them he will post them and increase your subsriber base significantly.

[DeltaAtheism]

I do post rating annotations, as you do notice.

I do send to FFreeThinker - he has subscribed to me.

But I am simply not major enough to recover if I were to be votebotted. I have 450 or so subscribers, only 200 or so of which log in on a regular basis. If I were to be dropped 1200 votes, as seems to be about average for these attacks, I wouldn't EVER get the ratings back. If my account does expand, I do plan to reopen the ratings, as was also laid out in the video I sent you.

[artyfarty2]

Fair enough. Let me know when you do. I'll come and watch your videos, maybe even subscribe.

[DeltaAtheism]

It will be done.

[bshieldsbb01]

Quick summary of the "Four Questions"

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[HadesOnEarth]

Man, your voice is so annoying I can't even finish watching this.

[DeltaAtheism]

The noise removal used to damage the audio.

[EvolutieOnzin]

How does this text beg to be user for discrimination? You made an error in your video stating that the Bible says that black skin was the curse, while it clearly doesn't say this.

Now you say because (you think) it could mean this, therefor it lets people think and do the wrong things.

The text doesn't say that, and doesn't mean that. And if you say it does, than give me some concrete evidence that this passage does say of mean that.

[DeltaAtheism]

The curse of Cannan - another name for the same thing - was used, according to the scripture, as rational to take the canaanites as slaves, simply because of an ethnic difference - descent from a particular ancestor. This is the foundation of racism.

[EvolutieOnzin]

I think you're trying to change the subject.

The Bible passage tells about someone getting a curse (for good reason I think) without saying anything about race or color. And you say that because it can be used wrong, it makes people do wrong things?

The way you're talking, everything can be used wrong, and is therefor wrong.

You (or rather your alias) made a claim that isn't true.

Dude, just admit that you made an error here!

[DeltaAtheism]

How am I trying to change the subject? The fact that a passage invites itself - not just can be used wrong, but practically begs to be used for - this interpretation casts negative light on itself. True, I made a mistake of sorts, not fully researching this passage - to see that it was mostly invoked by Mormons, as you said - but it still applicable. More, even if this passage were not, other passages are indeed racist, like the ones encouraging the genocide that defines much of the scripture.

[DeltaAtheism]

[cont'd]

What do you mean "my alias"?

[EvolutieOnzin]

My reaction was at 1RadicalOne, and DeltaAtheism = 1RadicalOne. That is what I mean by "your Alias"

[movieklump]

Like his father in prison for tax evasion, Eric Hovind is in the business of religion and the gullible will line his pockets and the stupid will rejoice.

Lie for Jesus, lie for Jesus, Jesus is a lie.

[DeltaAtheism]

Correct.

[EvolutieOnzin]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God cursed people with black skin. This is an old Mormon believe derived from the book of Mormon.

So either you're lying, or you don't do your homework. In both cases your being dishonest.

ps. Why do you ask for ratings, if ratings for this video are disabled?

[DeltaAtheism]

I ask for ratings when I first open the video, and then close them after a week or two. Votebot protection; see my video about that.

[1RadicalOne]

"Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God cursed people with black skin."

Genesis 9:20-27. The Curse of Ham.

[EvolutieOnzin]

Again: Gen 9 doesn't say anything about black skin. I don't get where people get this from. The Bible doesn't mention anything about skin color when talking about the curse of Ham or of Kain.

The Bible says "All people are of one blood"

Stop claiming the Bible lies, using lies to support that people!

[1RadicalOne]

It in itself says nothing of black skin, but that curse has been used - not just by mormons, though they are the most prevalent - to "justify" racism for centuries. And that derivative racism is - almost - always directed at African Americans.

[EvolutieOnzin]

So if people misuse a Bible passage, the problem is caused by the Bible??

Wow with that reasoning you could even blaim everything bad on the Jews, because the OT is their book.

[1RadicalOne]

It's not a question of usage, but rather interpretation. The fact that there is a passage that invites itself to being used to justify racism - I'm going to ignore all the passages promoting slavery for the moment - makes it clear that this Bible is not a good book to run one's life by.

Even if this passage weren't a problem, the book is riddled with violence, hate, war, racism/sexism/homophobism/etc.

[SirPwn4lot]

"And God said "Let there be light", and there was light, AND HE SAW IT WAS GOOD"

Not unless he had 13.7billion years in between those 2 days to wait for the light to reach him.......

[Jesusgospel]

Be not decieved God is not mock. The way of a fool is right in his own eyes. Those who believe in evilution Eric hovind offers a quarter of a million dollars for proof for evilution. So if you have any proof why dont you show it. Or are you to afraid to be proven wrong

[DeltaAtheism]

So, let's see. You quote scripture, toss an insult, and regurgitate Hovind's infamous challenge, ignore the fossils, genetics, and other proof of evolution (and then go on to demand proof), royally screw up your grammar, and conclude that you must be right and the world younger than the domestication of the dog. Pitiful.

[DarklightZER0]

For some reasion, I like it when the video says.

"God said 'Light there be light' and there was light and god saw the light and it was good"

Its strange that creationist videos have very good music. Almost like they are trying to provoke an emotional response.

[DeltaAtheism]

They do want an emotional response. That's what religion is built on.

Also, recall Thunderf00t's statement: "Yep, you always need dramatic music if you're going to play a load of creationist tosh".

[HadesOnEarth]

"No he did not". Wow, what a counter argument.

[Mdoekosad]

If Evolution is true. How come there are still Dinosaurs alive today. They should have died Millions of Years ago.

Where are they. In the deep jungles of Afrika.

Also many large unidentified sea creatures.

Conslusion: Earth is about 6000 years. So creation is true. Evolution false. Evolution denies alot of scientific required knowlege, that you are talking about. Why? because tghe all link to GOD

[DeltaAtheism]

RETARD ALERT. "How come there are still dinosaurs alive today"

Such as?

You are clearly a waste of time.

[Mdoekosad]

AFRICA you STUPID. You know, the Continent whit black people. The people there claim that there are dinos in there swamps.

You shouldnt talk so tuff. Believe me, you wouldnt if I stood in front of you.

So be respectfull.

[gmn545]

"Africa...people claim there are dinos in their swamps."

in ethiopia, the orthodox people claim that the ark of covenant is in a basement of one of their churches in Axum. The Lemba tribe in Zimbabwe asserts that they 1) belong to one of the lost Israelite tribes and 2) are of the bloodline of the old Levitical priests. Haile Selassie claimed to be a direct descendant of king solomon (and queen of sheba).

the point is...for the scientific community, every claim requires **evidence.**

[Mdoekosad]

Storacle #1 - The Millennial Man

Put the text above in the youtube search bar. And have your minds blown away by the proof in this seminair that things HAVE hapend, and still have to happen.

Its about the book of Daniel. So what has and wil happen according to the statue in the dream of nebuchadnezzar.

Good luck. Take time to look and listen. Thats the problem whit you Evolution Sarcasts.

[Mdoekosad]

If Evolution is true? Than why is the oldest corol reef ( the greate barier reef AUSTRALIA) 4300 years old. A 100 years after the FLOOD.

WHy isnt it MILLIONS of YEARS, like evolution teaches. Why havent we got a corol reef that is millions of years old?

The coverment conducted a research on how fast corol grows back. So it should be solid calculation to you Evolutionist.

SLAM DUNK FOR THE BIBLE

[DeltaAtheism]

Not at all. Coral is a living organism; it does not live forever, and moreover, there are periodic die-offs caused by climatic changes and ecological dynamics.

[Mdoekosad]

That is true. But non the fact, that has bin taken in to account.

It was a 20 year study of the goverment of Autstralia. Over 100 years ago there was almost no climatic change. Remember, polution was never greter than the last 100 year.

[BeforeTheNoose]

LOL a testimonial from a two year old. Awesome.

[DeltaAtheism]

Yes, he sure was desperate.

[ricardas83]

Eric Hovind? Descendent of Kent? Oh goodness, this is like hydra: one head got cut into jail, another is growing back. Hope only one head...

[DeltaAtheism]

Kent had 3 children. I've heard nothing of the other two, so there may be hope.

[ricardas83]

2 more..? Goodness... I'm glad they not muslim fundamentalists, becouse they have tons of kids in families. Goodness... This is nightmare :D.

[a300pilotster]

These anti science idiots are trying to drag us back to the dark ages. I bet they all get flu shots.. our understanding of evolution at work.

[totdos]

I'm sure that the people that actually buy into his shit are borderline retarded. How can anyone be this stupid!!!! God=Sheeple

[fight4th3truth]

THEY (Creationist) are getting more desperate just to prove they point that evolution is not true.

Good work

[RosieDesire]

Nice work

[RyuDarragh]

1) Who am I? Never asked this question> I always knew who I was. What I learned from my parents was a convenient handle to label myself. 2) Where did I come from? I knew that the minute I saw dogs mating on the lawn and then the bitch giving birth to puppies. I looked at my mother and father and knew. 3) Why am I here? Ask me when I figure it out. I'm still deciding which of an infinite number of things I'll do. 4) Where am I going when I die? Doesn't matter and I don't care. Eric is Kent v2.0

[soulinite]

Eric Hovind is a moron.

[AncientAtheist]

He is a chip off the old block. But not a "moron". I would say he's a con man. The family fortune rides on his perpetuating lies and fooling the IRS.

[Akira625]

@AncientAtheist Yeah, he's continuing his father's legacy of stupidity.

[nsleon22]

You must be the most under-subscribed Atheist on YT.. great video, once again.

[1RadicalOne]

Most undersubscribed? No, others have it harder. That said, I await the day that someone prolific (probably FFreeThinker, as he does this sort of thing) mirrors one of my videos and links back to the channel. I admit it; I love to see a high subscriber count; it means I achieve the video quality I strive for.

[superextremelaser]

The 4 questions part was awesome!!!