Can anyone help me here? I am having terrible difficulties dealing with Tan and Cos and other things in these questions and Sal doesn't seem to cover it.
I am extremely surprised at how much faster Sal teaches us math than that of my school. My name is Chanceus Moore, I am 13 years old, and I am studying calculus.
Wait... I'm confused at around 5 minutes... when approaching from the left, how come x is left positive but the absolute values of the x's are negative? You get the same answer, but I feel like it should be done the other way around....
Just wanted to give back. When you press and hold ctrl, then press Z, on the keyboard, you initiate the undo function. Apple has a similar one. It'll make things faster!
anyone would be kind enough to enlighten me as to why we can not use L`Hospitals rule to solve these limit problems??? this is very confusing and it would have been much easier using L hospitals rule anyone?
Wow, those were some meaty Limit problems. Solving these kinds of problems analytically is all about practice, but I’d take Sal’s suggestion, when these Limit problems start to become too advance to solve analytically with intuitive reconciliation then you should just substitute values extremely close to the value which “x” is approaching.
For the second example, can't you just divide the top number by the second number (5/2=2.5) instead of having to go through all the steps?
I graphed: sin[.000 000 000 000 000 5x]/[.000 000 000 000 000 2x], and I got 2.5.
I also graphed: sin[9.87654321x]/[4.938271605x], and I got 2. Hence, [9.87654321]/[4.938271605]=2. So why can't I just divide the top number by the bottom number? It's a lot easier.
@birdpoo01 because the 5 is inside of the sine function, it is basically sin(5x)/2x. You can't just divide out the 5. It happens to work in this example but it won't work in others.
I don't quite get why lim(x-->0) sin(x)/x = 1. I saw his proof and I understand it, but it only works in radians, because the pi's cancel out. But in the case of lim(x-->0) sin(5x)/2x if you use x in degrees the limit is not 5/2 but something like 0.043... I tried this with my calculator, and in radians, it gives 5/2, but in degrees, it gives something else. And yet, 0 degrees should equal 0 radians.
When you go through the process of deriving (sinx/x)=1 you are specifying the exclusive use of radians. The inequality that is derived from the trigonometric structures is based on the use of radians on the unit circle, hence why x is in radians. While 0 degrees equals 0 radians, one radian does not equal 1 degree. You cannot assume that just because the two systems intersect at zero, that they are directly interchangeable in all situations.
Another way to do it is to remove 1/2 bc/ its a constant and then multiply by 5/5, then remove the 5 ontop bc/ its also a constant. this leaves you with 5/2 lim x-->0 (sin5x)/5x which is the same form as (sinx)/x. So again you wind up with 5/2x1=5/2.
i plug this into my graphing calculator and when i trace the curve of the function it says that it is undefined at 0, why doesnt it say 5/2?? i'm positive that the equation is correct when i put it in, like the parenthesis and brackets are fine, so if any one can tell me that'd be awesome..thnx
Hello bradinator83. The limit is just a value that the function approaches as x gets smaller and smaller, but it might not actually be defined at zero, as in this case. Sometimes it is, but not always. In this case the function approaches 5/2, so for 0.0001, say, the function is very close to 5/2, but for x = 0, it is not defined, because this value gives us a zero in the denominator.
Anyway, see some of Sals earlier limit videos as he explains this point much better than me.
you sure you didn't f up on your math here? im a huge fan of your lectures, and frankly ive learned more from an hour of your vids then from my whole calc class (im taking it for the second time =[) but around 4:51 doesnt a negative in the absolute value actually mean the positive, so the -2 and the abs(x) would be (-2)*(+x)? if u pump it out like that then u get -3, but if you do it your way then it becomes (-1)-2(-x)/(-x)=1 for x=-1. maybe im wrong but this confused me on the principles of abs
when you have an absolute value it means it could be -x or x so you set up two different equations. one where x is positive. one where x is negative. then solve
When finding the limit your basically predicting where the function would land if it continued on the same path. by looking at where it was before and after the given point, you should be able to figure out where it should of been.
Its used in order to find points on a line that would otherwise not exist because of things like dividing by zero. i'm sure this is probably confusing on its own, keep watching, it can be a rough concept but once you grasp it, its basically all about algebra
No, because 5/2 is not the value of a, but the limit of a (there's a difference). And since the limit of a is also the limit of x, we have the answer we need.
It magically works in this case because we're looking for the limit when x -> 0 and because the variable change is linear, but don't think of it as a rule because it's not. For example, sin(5x)/2x is not equal to (5/2)*[sin(x)/x] , and the limits when x->1 (or probably any number different from 0) of those 2 terms are not equal either
i found this to be way more than vaguely useful.
FornicateThySofa 3 days ago
I need help solving 1/(x-1)
chuchiemaaane 2 weeks ago in playlist Calculus
is there a video on limits of trigonometric functions?
MrEvanCarey 3 weeks ago
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at the bottom right it says 'Artist: One Playing at The Ivy, Sydney' LOL
MilitaryMan006 3 months ago
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MilitaryMan006 3 months ago
When sal is doing the limit of X-2lxl/lxl from the negative side why is it x-2(-x)/-x as instead of -x-2(-x)/-x
stateofeuphoria12 4 months ago
@stateofeuphoria12 the |x| is absolute, so that is what will be turned negative. the x-2 part is not part of the absolute value.
Skelymage 3 months ago
i'm lovin' this. I skipped calculus class today, and ended up watching it on youtube instead :)
selvmordspilot 4 months ago in playlist Calculus
I'm confused, I thought the absolute value was the distance away from 0? And that it could never be negative...
SugarRush694 5 months ago
@SugarRush694
Yes, but if x < 0, |x| = -x (two minuses cancel each other)
werdo21 4 months ago
can you help me. I don't understand how to do this problem.
The limit is "x" approaching 0 as the (Square root of 3+X) Minus the Square root of 3 all divided by X.
I'm not doing something right no matter how many times I rationalize I can't get the right answer in the book. PLEASE HELP.
sin7wu 5 months ago
@sin7wu never mind i got it. forgot to simplify.
sin7wu 5 months ago
Another dirty secret? Use an online graphing calculator and then analyze the visual graph (of course assuming you can read a graph well).
inmotion86 6 months ago
Can anyone help me here? I am having terrible difficulties dealing with Tan and Cos and other things in these questions and Sal doesn't seem to cover it.
E.g: x/sin4x+sin2x
I would REALLY appreciate any help, thanks.
SteDeRaver 7 months ago
Can anyone help me here? I am having terrible difficulties dealing with Tan and Cos in these questions and Sal doesn't seem to cover it.
E.g: x/sin4x+sin2x
I would REALLY appreciate any help, thanks.
SteDeRaver 7 months ago
I am extremely surprised at how much faster Sal teaches us math than that of my school. My name is Chanceus Moore, I am 13 years old, and I am studying calculus.
DrGreenEyedGiant 8 months ago
Nice:) you can also use the L'Hopital rule for second example
sepia2008 8 months ago
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flyingbeagles 8 months ago
squeeeeze theorem.
narcomanel 9 months ago
Wait... I'm confused at around 5 minutes... when approaching from the left, how come x is left positive but the absolute values of the x's are negative? You get the same answer, but I feel like it should be done the other way around....
Aguy666 11 months ago
Just wanted to give back. When you press and hold ctrl, then press Z, on the keyboard, you initiate the undo function. Apple has a similar one. It'll make things faster!
abcsmedotcom 11 months ago
anyone would be kind enough to enlighten me as to why we can not use L`Hospitals rule to solve these limit problems??? this is very confusing and it would have been much easier using L hospitals rule anyone?
urumqilik 1 year ago
you are the best teacher i've ever had Sal!!
111000may 1 year ago
Wow, those were some meaty Limit problems. Solving these kinds of problems analytically is all about practice, but I’d take Sal’s suggestion, when these Limit problems start to become too advance to solve analytically with intuitive reconciliation then you should just substitute values extremely close to the value which “x” is approaching.
MarvelsofaLifetime 1 year ago
thank you!!!
alldae09 1 year ago
I wanna give you a hug, THANK YOU!
xcstacy2 1 year ago
can you help me in physics?
unisbushra 1 year ago
@unisbushra
There might be like 50 videos on physic at Sal's website at khanacademy. You will surely find what you need there.
Almudenaalcantara 1 year ago
@unisbushra google "khan academy"
nactan 1 year ago
can you help me in physics?
unisbushra 1 year ago
My brain died for like 5 seconds while trying to figure it out, it was so much, but good info.
TrueGuy 1 year ago
For the second example, can't you just divide the top number by the second number (5/2=2.5) instead of having to go through all the steps?
I graphed: sin[.000 000 000 000 000 5x]/[.000 000 000 000 000 2x], and I got 2.5.
I also graphed: sin[9.87654321x]/[4.938271605x], and I got 2. Hence, [9.87654321]/[4.938271605]=2. So why can't I just divide the top number by the bottom number? It's a lot easier.
birdpoo01 1 year ago
@birdpoo01 because the 5 is inside of the sine function, it is basically sin(5x)/2x. You can't just divide out the 5. It happens to work in this example but it won't work in others.
polyopulis 1 year ago
that second example confused me
1073601 1 year ago
i am getting it.... lol plz show me some luv and dun delete my comments :-)
urumqilik 1 year ago
at 3:09, why is it -1? why didn't he plug in the zero?
MonaRocks09 1 year ago
@MonaRocks09 He did plug in 0. 0 goes into the x terms, but since there was no x term, the 0 didn't have any affect.
It's like evaluating f(x) = 5, the value of x has no bearing on the answer.
f(2) = 5, f(32.762) = 5, etc.
MyOverflow 1 year ago
I used values near 0 like 0.0000001 to try this.
BannedLol4l 1 year ago
I don't quite get why lim(x-->0) sin(x)/x = 1. I saw his proof and I understand it, but it only works in radians, because the pi's cancel out. But in the case of lim(x-->0) sin(5x)/2x if you use x in degrees the limit is not 5/2 but something like 0.043... I tried this with my calculator, and in radians, it gives 5/2, but in degrees, it gives something else. And yet, 0 degrees should equal 0 radians.
So where's the problem?
BannedLol4l 1 year ago
@BannedLol4l confused here as well
akondude 1 year ago
@BannedLol4l
When you go through the process of deriving (sinx/x)=1 you are specifying the exclusive use of radians. The inequality that is derived from the trigonometric structures is based on the use of radians on the unit circle, hence why x is in radians. While 0 degrees equals 0 radians, one radian does not equal 1 degree. You cannot assume that just because the two systems intersect at zero, that they are directly interchangeable in all situations.
krellor 1 year ago
Yes, I found that 13 minutes useful. Thanks Sal!
geneerinen 1 year ago 4
The last problem is not clearly explained... As soon as 8:20 hits, it all goes down hill. Like you 2x is equivalent to a = 5? I am still lost.
cm3rt 2 years ago
i do not fully understand the last problem...i dont know where the a=5x come from , how can you just set this equality? where does it come from?
xSebas6089x 2 years ago
also , what is a , thank you
xSebas6089x 2 years ago
By substitution of variables. He substitutes 5x and calls this expression a in order to get the whole expression on the form sin x / x which is 1.
jimlov04 2 years ago
Another way to do it is to remove 1/2 bc/ its a constant and then multiply by 5/5, then remove the 5 ontop bc/ its also a constant. this leaves you with 5/2 lim x-->0 (sin5x)/5x which is the same form as (sinx)/x. So again you wind up with 5/2x1=5/2.
I like Sal's way better though.
glacialmind101 2 years ago
i love how america's next top model is bookmarked on your mozilla ;)
MrFlamingoo1 2 years ago
this was confusing.. ughh my brain
pokaymahn 2 years ago 12
@pokaymahn really!? even with the clear way that sal explains his videos?
Janac 11 months ago
i plug this into my graphing calculator and when i trace the curve of the function it says that it is undefined at 0, why doesnt it say 5/2?? i'm positive that the equation is correct when i put it in, like the parenthesis and brackets are fine, so if any one can tell me that'd be awesome..thnx
bradinator83 2 years ago
Hello bradinator83. The limit is just a value that the function approaches as x gets smaller and smaller, but it might not actually be defined at zero, as in this case. Sometimes it is, but not always. In this case the function approaches 5/2, so for 0.0001, say, the function is very close to 5/2, but for x = 0, it is not defined, because this value gives us a zero in the denominator.
Anyway, see some of Sals earlier limit videos as he explains this point much better than me.
philjc54 2 years ago
you sure you didn't f up on your math here? im a huge fan of your lectures, and frankly ive learned more from an hour of your vids then from my whole calc class (im taking it for the second time =[) but around 4:51 doesnt a negative in the absolute value actually mean the positive, so the -2 and the abs(x) would be (-2)*(+x)? if u pump it out like that then u get -3, but if you do it your way then it becomes (-1)-2(-x)/(-x)=1 for x=-1. maybe im wrong but this confused me on the principles of abs
captainplanet999 2 years ago 2
i noticed it too.. shouldnt absolute value be positive x and x as -x?
in this case shouldnt it be (-x-2x)/x which is still -3 though
jianzzz88 2 years ago
when you have an absolute value it means it could be -x or x so you set up two different equations. one where x is positive. one where x is negative. then solve
justinhunt233 2 years ago
@captainplanet999 i thought the same thing too, at around 4:51 he got it wrong.
famousmanbearpig 4 months ago
im still confused
i need to noe the simplest definition of a limit
and how its used in math
plz help
illestdesimc 2 years ago
Watch all his videos about limits in order, and you will understand. But make sure that you understand algebra and trigonometry 100pct lol.....
BigCrazyDude2343 2 years ago
When finding the limit your basically predicting where the function would land if it continued on the same path. by looking at where it was before and after the given point, you should be able to figure out where it should of been.
Its used in order to find points on a line that would otherwise not exist because of things like dividing by zero. i'm sure this is probably confusing on its own, keep watching, it can be a rough concept but once you grasp it, its basically all about algebra
Cwhite400 2 years ago
Is there any neccesity to convert the answer in terms of a back to x.
Another words plug 5/2 into a, and whatever x equals would be the final answer?
cookieeatbird 2 years ago
No, because 5/2 is not the value of a, but the limit of a (there's a difference). And since the limit of a is also the limit of x, we have the answer we need.
alankarmisra 2 years ago
for the second problem, couldn't we just take out the 5/2 right away without adding the a variable?
thelastwords 2 years ago
It magically works in this case because we're looking for the limit when x -> 0 and because the variable change is linear, but don't think of it as a rule because it's not. For example, sin(5x)/2x is not equal to (5/2)*[sin(x)/x] , and the limits when x->1 (or probably any number different from 0) of those 2 terms are not equal either
Vendresse 2 years ago
CTRL + Z doesn't work for cancellation ?
yanemailg 2 years ago
it's like MS paint. Only cancels like 4 tasks.
Come to think of it I sometimes suspect that's actually what Sal is using.
cookieeatbird 2 years ago
good work man. keep up the cal vids
highpriest49 2 years ago
What if you just take the derivitive of the top and bottom then plug in zero at10:49
woodenjaw 2 years ago
d/dx sinx = cosx
d/dx 2x = 2
lim cos(5*0)/2 = 1/2
x->0
you get a different answer
aerosmith0816 2 years ago
Thanks Sal.
Yellowflyte 2 years ago
Thanks Sal, very helpful.
Winsunn307 2 years ago
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jeitomoloch 2 years ago
Thank you very much. These tutorials are very helpful. I am glad I stumbled upon this YouTube page.
adis89 3 years ago
His name is Salman Khan
Manu9324 3 years ago
Hello, Sal.
Unless you're finished with this pre-calculus playlist, could you make a video on lim x->infinity sqrt(n^2+2n)-sqrt(n^2+3n) ?
Thank you!
clerlic 3 years ago
Waranle: His name is Sal.
Hey Sal, I noticed that starting from the last video, your penmanship has improved. :P
jokumusic 3 years ago
Thank you alooooooooot Sam. where can i get that graphing calculator you were using?
Waranle 3 years ago 11
Hey Waranle, here is the link of the calculator Sal in using
VaKaBonSenTi 3 years ago
where ?
jrendoso 3 years ago
@Waranle lol his name is Sal
MonaRocks09 1 year ago