Sinclair ZX81 (Timex Sinclair 1000) System Review

[kbdkbd99]

Great video.

I wonder how many kids started out their IT careers by programming on ZX81/Speccy/C64.

What skills do kids learn these days riding a mario cart ?

[CoolDudeClem]

I think it would have been possible to have sound from a ZX81 since it has a audio out for saving data, with some kind of clever coding I dont see any reason why that couldn't have been used that way and maybe be as good as the beeeper on the spectrum. I always found basic hard on the spectrum becuase of how the keyboard is set up (never had a ZX81), but learning basic on my first ever computer, an Amstrad CPC464 was easy as pi.

[namco21gamefreak]

Interesting video mate, how much are these things worth these days? I want to start collecting old computers and I think the ZX80 is a good start maybe.

[SteveBenway]

@namco21gamefreak The ZX81 can go for in the region of £30 to £50, though don't be surprised to see them go for significantly more... or less.

ZX80s can go for up to £300.

[TeamRocketReviews]

@namco21gamefreak If you're in the UK, I recommend either ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64, Amstrad CPC, or Atari 8-bit machines to start.

[namco21gamefreak]

Interesting video mate, how much are these things worth these days?

[dfoosdc]

I had the TS1000 version. It was one of the first computers I owned. I spent hours programming it. Loved this machine.

[RomanticLinguaphilia]

She only contains one chip? That's hot. That makes me want one :-)

She had a "FOR" key :-) ... "L. PRINT" :-) and a "CLEAR" key..."LET" "NEW LINE"... Lots of beautiful words on that girl :-D

Oh... I had a co-worker who had an external harddrive that would overheat unless he put a glass of water ontop of her... and he told us all that he now had a "water cooled harddrive" :-D

[wrongfire]

If someone wanted to start programming, would you recommend going back to these old consoles somehow, and start there? with those limitations and stuff that they had id imagine that learning to program for these old machines would give a very clear understanding on how programming works on a basic level with limitations.

[christo930]

Wasn't there a way of gluing or some other method of keeping the connection between the ram and the machine reliable?

[SteveBenway]

@christo930 Blu-Tack between the computer and the ram pack was the recommended method for preventing memory wobble, though I can say from experience that it wasn't very effective. Some companies devised clamps, and numerous other home grown methods were tried, with varying levels of success.

[christo930]

@SteveBenway It never ceases to amaze me how much of this stuff goes on in the computer industry (and still does). How did this ever make it to market? They must not have done adequate testing. Probably didn't want to spend the money on the prototypes.

[SteveBenway]

@christo930 That was very much the nature of the Sinclair business. Make everything as cheap as possible, and if there was a corner to be cut, rest assured, it wase cut. Then let the end users sort out the mess. It worked though, coz Sinclair computers were *so* affordable that people forgave them their failings.

[christo930]

@SteveBenway Keep in mind that all of the companies that were run that way are out of business or no longer in computers.

[SteveBenway]

@christo930 LOL! Very good point :D

[madcapoperator]

@christo930 windows?

[christo930]

@madcapoperator Microsoft was always very profitable. For all it's flaws, DOS/Windows/PC was incredibly flexible and won the war for good reasons. If the PC has a floppy disk, you can still boot 99% of pc's with a dos boot disk! You also have to remember that it's flaws were well known because so many people were using them. THe only thing that came close was OS/2 and it had far more flaws than dos/windows.

[delldimension2345]

It was Ram Pack Wobble not memory wobble,

Everybody called it Ram Pack Wobble,

Ram Pack Wobble was not fatal but was frustrating,

I had a proteck fullsize keyboard for mine,

Which caused major problems with using my,

Experimental 16K Rampack,

Great video by the way !

[SteveBenway]

@delldimension2345 I've never heard it called Ram Pack wobble, while everyone I knew with one referred to is as memory wobble. But of course, there was no standard name for the phenomenon, so it was probably called many things.

[delldimension2345]

Dont forget the Acorn Atom Computer,

Which came before the BBC Model A.

[SteveBenway]

@delldimension2345 The Atom wasn't part of the BBC competition, though the Proton did take that a starting point for its design, if I'm not mistaken.

[TheEPROM9]

You should do more system reviews. The only thing to note is you got the RAM and ROM chips mixed. Other than that excellently researched and presented.

[SteveBenway]

@TheEPROM9 I was totally guessing which chip was which :)

System reviews take a lot more time and effort, as I can't just say the first thing that comes to mind, though they are more satisfying when complete.

[henryblazer20]

takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'

[uhurasblackfanny]

Great video. Thank you

[Fuzzy192006]

Loved the review.

[TheCleardeath]

Just imagine if you think outside the box, modify the sinclair to have 4Gb memory with the Duel core and custom firmware graphic and the sounds this machine would be ultimate light computer core tech seriously sinclair needs to be revive

[MrStephen182]

Great vid.

[edwardszzz]

I has a zx81 when it first went on to the market. With reference to the heat myth problem. When using it for more than an hour , the keyboard got quite warm, but it did not affect the machine in anyway. I also had a wobbly memorex 16k ram pack.

[Paperinjerate]

thx for making this review. I enjoyed it thoroughly!

[Retr0Rewind]

Great System review. And Moosies back!!! You had me worried there when you were listing the computers it was more fun than playing, but you stopped at the Amiga :) phew heart attack over....lol

[SteveBenway]

@Retr0Rewind I might be a bit daft sometimes, but not *that* daft :D

[Phil8bit]

This was my first computer. I remember buying it with my Dad when I was 12 years old not long before he died. He was fascinated by these new computers coming out and was really getting into it before he died.

I wish he was around to see things now! - very fond memories of this computer.

[AfroedNinja]

I liked the intro. It could use some swimsuit models holding and licking the consoles though :)

[SteveBenway]

@AfroedNinja I was going to do that, but my personal collection of swimsuit models was on holiday when I was recording it.

[AfroedNinja]

@SteveBenway Yeah, It's tough dealing with union's and all :)

[DirtyKameSennin]

Very good review, I can't believe I found your channel recently! I love your voice :D You sound like an instructor from a document movie from the 40s :D (no offense). Keep up the good work and now I go and hit the subscribe button!

[Danny77uk]

Just noticed the Rex Maze cassette - best game on the system! 'Rex is hunting you'

[Danny77uk]

British engineering! And people complain that we lost our manufacturing industry!

[thomas3120]

Great review Steve :) A lot of things (like the ULA) carried over to the Speccy.

There was a website selling ZX81 kits to build here in the US...was thinking about picking one up and trying it out. I believe it also had a switch to go between PAL and NTSC. They wanted $100 for the kit...

[07734world]

HAVE THE SAME TATTOO STYLE SP GBA

[lordmickey2003]

Just started watching The IT Crowd (a British comedy series) on netflix and this was mentioned in the first episode.

[phreakindee]

100% excellent review! Great info, lots of stuff I didn't know about. Was never aware of the Timex 1500, I'll have to keep a lookout for one of those. I have some software for the 2068 (48k clone) which works on my Speccy, so I wonder if 1000 or 1500 software would work on the ZX81? Hope to find out someday.

[SteveBenway]

@phreakindee I'd imagine anything that doesn't use fancy machine code to manipulate the timing of the beam should work on a TS1000. Just a guess of course :)

[DdlyHeadshot]

The intro's boring without gameplay (or cats) - sorry.

Interrupt Service Routine = (I think) Interrupt Handler - a bit of code that tells the CPU what to do when it receives a specific interrupt.

We still had Beebs in classrooms when I was at Primary school in the mid '90s - wouldn't have worked with a Z80...

Your voice is breaking up near the end - were you tearing up?

[SteveBenway]

@DdlyHeadshot I'll only be using this intro for system reviews, and I'm gonna shorten it a bit. It's a copyright thing.

I was actually getting kinda frantic at the end, trying to get it finished, coz I was running out of time. That's probably what you heard :)

[manspam1]

If you gonna send the moose round I will have to sing " there's a moose lose around the goose" well I get me Mrs to sing it as she is Scottish.

[AtsumaKarin]

Great system review, Steve! :D

It certainly had its place in history, going by this review and does seem quite impressive on the whole, relative to its day.

I now know where the Facebook: "poke" function originated from! :P

I'm glad you picked up on the double entendre when you said Rob gave you a ZX81 as that made me chuckle too. :D

May I offer a piece of constructive criticism? Re: your intro, I think you should make it a touch shorter (not necessarily a lot) and at the end of the (continued)

[AtsumaKarin]

@AtsumaKarin slideshow, have a still image of the system you're reviewing along with a bit of text stating what it is. :)

I know what you were going for, though. I'm guessing that that's everything in your collection in the slideshow and it doesn't overly bother me, personally, just offering advice based on others' views, really. :)

I feel strangely compelled to buy a t-shirt now as I don't have access to a bunker to hide from the rampaging moose! :P

[SteveBenway]

@AtsumaKarin The intro does indeed need shortening, and I knew it when I used it for this vid. I just didn't have the time to do it. Including a still and text of the system I'm reviewing is a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion :)

MOOSE!!!

[gabbogabbo]

Great review as all ways. I like computers from back then, they where definitely more intresting then todays. But dont get me wrong I love how much more powerful they are now, but something about the innocence back then intrestest me.

[SteveBenway]

@gabbogabbo Yes, you could see how the designers were feeling their way, trying to find ways of doing things with incredibly limited resources. Impressive results took clever design rather than brute force, back then :)

[RPKGameVids]

Where I used to live Ferranti was just down the road from me.

[LuckyLuxy]

The ZX81 was my first ever computer. I was 7 years old and I can still remember my Dad bringing one home. Since that moment, I have been hooked on computing, that was the moment! I bought computing mags from the newsagent around the corner from my parents with my pocket money and typed in all the code, I loved it and I loved that computer. I still do. My ZX81 is still round my parents, it just feels right leaving it there for some reason, nostalgia and happy memories I suppose. Great video mate.

[SteveBenway]

@LuckyLuxy It sounds like your experience with the ZX81 is quite similar to my own, though I was slightly older... and it was a friend's computer. I got my own about a year later. The nostalgia I feel for this thing when using it today is incredible and took me quite by surprise :)

[Zoogle88]

MOOSE!

[SteveBenway]

@Zoogle88 YAY! You're the first person to comment on the Moose. Don't know if anyone else watched to the end... lol :D

[wrestletube1]

I bet the Spectrum would have done even better than it did if it was colour clash free like the ZX81 but had the 128k always from the start and of course it's sound chip.

[SteveBenway]

@wrestletube1 Well yes, but you could say that any system would have done better if it had superior hardware. Development and affordability through mass production takes time.

The KIM 1 would have been a world beater if it had played like a PS3.

[wrestletube1]

Didn't flicker? What about 1K Steve, that did flicker and a lot too.

[SteveBenway]

@wrestletube1 1k games flickered due to the limited nature of their programs, not their hardware.

[JimPlaysGames]

Fascinating stuff :)

[SteveBenway]

@JimPlaysGames Cheers :)

[Polaventris]

Very interesting computer. Amazing how few parts it has inside.

[SteveBenway]

@Polaventris Comparing inside this to inside the Commodore PET, which seems similar in many capabilities, is quite an eye opener :D

[StormyX73]

Great stuff Steve! I had the Spectrum, but my friend had a ZX81 that his Dad made from the kit. He always reckoned it was 'a proper computer and not just a stupid games machine like the Spectrum'. He won, he's a high-flying doctor now :)

[SteveBenway]

@StormyX73 On a technical level, he was wrong, in that the Spectrum could do everything that the ZX81 could do, and usually better (except flick screen style games like 3D Monster Maze), but the ZX81 was probably put to more serious or educational uses than the Spectrum, simply because it wasn't as good at games.

Great way for him to prove a point though :D

[LarryBundyJr]

Does your ZX80 work Steve?

[SteveBenway]

@LarryBundyJr Yup. Haven't got any software for it, but it works. The fancy non-flickering software usually requires the upgraded 8k ROM, and mine's standard, so there's not likely to be any games vids coming up for it any time soon.

[AlfredRusselWallace]

so its basically just a programmable calculator. sexy as hell though

[SteveBenway]

@AlfredRusselWallace No doubt considerably less powerful than your modern calculators, and maybe not much more than 80s ones, but yeah... dead pretty :)

[andersevenrud]

My father has one of these with a working printer. Now I'll have to fire it up and test it out. Don't know if he has the 16K expansion though :/

[SteveBenway]

@andersevenrud They can still do stuff without the 16k ram pack. It's just a bit more limited that way :)

[andersevenrud]

@SteveBenway From your 1K reviews I can see it's quite capable of doing some amazing stuff. Now maybe my BASIC knowledge can finally come to good use. One could learn quite a few thing things in programming from having such limited amount of memory.

Keep up the awesome work. Always enjoy your reviews and talkies.... brings that good feeling of nostalgia :)

[DARKJURNEY]

Had a few of these when i was a kid ,had no idea how to use em though & the manuals didnot help me at all . still loved everything about the zx81 though ,ZEN beuty of a machine

[SteveBenway]

@DARKJURNEY Programming them certainly isn't something you can grasp overnight (or in 30 years in my case), but given a tape recorder and the right leads, it's easy enough to get games running on them.

Half the pleasure is definitely just looking at it though :)

[DARKJURNEY]

@DARKJURNEY ,Nice looking Inside and out ,i had 3d dinosour maze game but no idea how to load it at the time (at the time i thaught you needed a specific tape deck like the vic20 , i underestimated its simplisity. But after watching this i am getting one again .nice one

[FroyaGod]

Would rather know just about the video game side of it and things like Gamester81 does with insight aswell no a history lesson. I had to turn off after 5minutes as it just was not for me and was way too long and the things you talked about was interesting but then you started talking about other parts of it when i think an overview with gameplay and such would have been much better, personally.

[SteveBenway]

@FroyaGod I have been doing gameplay videos from this system for the past 2 weeks. If that's what you want to see, you'd be better off watching those. When I do system reviews, I like to include as much detail as possible. It's fine if this is not your cup of tea... each to their own, but I certainly won't be changing how I do things here.

[ParkMarky]

Such a beautiful and elegant designed piece of gaming history.

Love the new intro and the fantastic review.

Bravo!

[TheGameRaider1]

I never realized it was that small. Nice review. I probably get one some day.

[SteveBenway]

@TheGameRaider1 If you like your gaming chunky, slow, black and white, awkward to control and very quiet, this is the machine for you. It shouldn't be fun, but it is :D

[electricadventures]

Thanks for the awesome review. It was really good to see inside one as well. They really were an engineering marvel of the day. I did not realise they were available in kit form. The initial Microbee (Aus) machines were also available only in kit form initially. I like the Sinclair machines as they made a proper attempt at having a language you could do something with (even with only 1k), where as the Commodore machines Basic was much more primitive and thus less accessible.

[SteveBenway]

@electricadventures I never tried Commodore basic, and though BBC basic is considered the best from the 8 bit era, I found Sinclair basic to be fairly user-friendly and rather of fun.

[chairuser4]

I had one to,very basic

[Trusteft]

The new intro is good, though as you mentioned elsewhere, it could use some trimming. :)

[Trusteft]

At 03:03 do you change the pitch or speed or something? lol Your voice sounds weird from that point. :p

I am not sure I understand the point about the volume affecting the system when the system has no sound?

I really don't get your love for this system, but on the other hand I probably feel the same for any thing of the Atari ST line. :)

I never used a ZX81, only a Spectrum which I found weirdly old even then (1987ish). The ZX81 almost feels like a scam lol.

Thanks for the great review.

[SteveBenway]

@Trusteft I didn't change the pitch, I was just projecting a little more, as I was further from the camera.

When I refer to volume, I mean the volume that the tape player is outputting at... how loud the tape is playing into the computer.

In 87 the Spectrum *was* old, but in '81, the ZX81, to a kid who had never even seen a real computer before, much less used one... was revolutionary, and entirely magical.

[Trusteft]

@SteveBenway The detail I keep forgetting is the cost and how much cheaper than other computers it was at the time.

Of course you are right. :)

[Starxxon]

The Coco 2 (and the Dragon 32) also had a similar "fast mode" which could be activated by typing POKE 65497,0. The screen would blank and fill with glitchy horizontal lines, but the machine would operate at around twice the normal speed.

[ForViewingOnly]

Very interesting system review, thanks Steve. I agree, this is one of my favourite computers from the day, beautiful to behold and it had so much character with its touch-sensitive keyboard and matching touch-sensitive 16K RAM pack! The manual for the ZX81 was probably the best written manual on any 8-bit machine - it was actually FUN to read! And the artwork on the manual cover was thrilling to look at... to me it looked like a couple of spaceships that had landed on a chip inside the computer!

[SteveBenway]

@ForViewingOnly I see that cover as being like spaceships or jet fighters on a giant building in a city... rather Bladerunnerish. Awesome book :D

[Starxxon]

Nice review Steve!

Just one little thing, I really don't know where this idea that north-americans didn't know much about tape media for 8-bit computers comes from.

All of my friends that had 8-bit computers, Vic-20, C64, Atari 800XL and myself with my TRS-80 Coco 2 were using tape media. Disk drives were prohibitively expensive, even on this side of the ocean. I never had a disk drive for my Coco 2 as it would've cost over $500 for that thing, more than the machine itself.

[SteveBenway]

@Starxxon That's probably just a misconception on my part, though it's based largely on comments made by people who're watching my vids, so... I'm not sure what to conclude from that :)

[Starxxon]

@SteveBenway I don't know the actual demographics of your audience (you could look at that via Youtube Insight) but I would suspect that some sizeable part of your fans are american kids that are fascinated by an era in computing that they didn't live, and like the "novelty" aspect of your british accent.

Obviously another big part of your audience are people like me who actually used some of these back in the days, including many people from the UK/Europe who had Acorns, BBCs and others.

[scorpioxdi]

Re: BBC computer literacy project. As I understand it (and I could be wrong) while Acorn were first to market, both the Spectrum and Proton were presented to the BBC and the BBC went for the Acorn design. In truth this was probably a blessing for the Sinclair team in the long run as it gave them time to refine the design. That said, the skill and talent that went into it can't be underestimated. Chris Smith's "The ZX Spectrum ULA" is a great read & showcases the genius work of that time.

[SteveBenway]

@scorpioxdi I find the whole ULA thing fascinating, the way they cram the functions of multiple chips onto one general purpose item :)

[scorpioxdi]

The ZX Printer was actually pretty good and print was much more durable than you've been led to believe. I have some listings in a drawer somewhere that are still quite legible. For writing programs it was quite handy to print it all out and look at it "offline" to get the big picture. It photocopied very well too.

The smell as the print stylus vapourised the coating was quite unique, until I took welding classes anyway!

[malc1976]

Im really glad you did this reveiw Steve as iv never seen the Sinclair ZX81 or the 80 before great video

[SteveBenway]

@malc1976 I'm glad you enjoyed it. I've been meaning to do it for months, but procrastination is my middle name :)

[scorpioxdi]

Steve, I believe it was the Spectrum, not the ZX81 that was up against the BBC for the computer education scheme. If it had been the ZX81 it wouldn't have been much of a competition! ;-)

"Micro Men" - There was a programme that brought back memories! Obviously there was a bit of dramatic licence taken (not as much as you would think though) but generally accurate and affectionate. Required viewing for anyone interested in that era!

[SteveBenway]

@scorpioxdi I'm looking for specific info on that, as the competition started in 1980, and the Spectrum wasn't even on the drawing board at that time, while the ZX81 was still in development. Information is rather sketchy and contradictory, but interestingly, the New Brain was originally being developed by a separate arm of Sinclair, before they went into receivership.

[madcapoperator]

ive come to the conclusion why i like the zx81 so much: its just so bloody aesthetically pleasing! one of those wouldnt look out of place on the table of a trendy bar as an ornament.

[SteveBenway]

@madcapoperator Yup... it's a lovely looking machine. And that keyboard.... awesome. Look great on that mug I got recently :D

[madcapoperator]

@SteveBenway probably has a better keyboard too lol

[SushiSunshine2000]

Nice review Steve!! Nice new intro too!!

[SteveBenway]

@SushiSunshine2000 Thanks! The intro's still a bit too long, but I didn't have time to shorten it while keeping all the systems in it. Gonna work on it a bit before the next system review :)

[pappachook]

Great review Steve, would of liked to see the printer again as i always found it very amusing. My Secondry school had one one these in their Computer Room. Fortunately they had some BBC computers to. :)

[SteveBenway]

@pappachook I've never actually seen a ZX printer working. I heard you can rub the "print" off the "paper" just by lightly brushing it. Doesn't sound entirely practical :)

[pappachook]

@SteveBenway It was like a tramps toilet roll :)

[Jago666]

another awesome system review Steve!!!!

[SteveBenway]

@Jago666 Thanks :)

[senorverde09]

I'd like to get one of these (Timex 1000 here in the states), but I'm a tad dubious. Most auctions I've seen always come with everything you need to hook it up (mains adapter, RF switchbox, &c.) but the seller always lists it as 'untested,' even though everything's there for it to be tested.

[SteveBenway]

@senorverde09 I'd be very dubious of something like that too. I always interpret "untested" as meaning "It doesn't work, but I'm not going to admit that if it means I can get more money."

[EgoShredder]

@senorverde09

Yeah I bought a ZX81 and 16KB RAM pack for approx £35 which said untested, and yes both were totally dead upon arrival and plugging in. So I could not really return it due to the untested disclaimer.

[SteveBenway]

@EgoShredder I've noticed a lot of systems sold with no psu. The sellers say "It worked last time I tried it, but I lost the psu, so can't test it." I don't believe a word of it, but it makes it harder for people to check if it works when it arrives. Very dodgy.

[lilacfloyd]

I bet the ZX81 kits are rare, how do they usually go for on Ebay?

[SteveBenway]

@lilacfloyd I saw a sealed kit go for £180 earlier this year, which is the highest I've ever seen a ZX81 sell for. Usually a boxed pre-assembled one will go for £30 - £50, while kits can go for a bit more.

ZX80s on the other hand go for much more. Up to £300, boxed and assembled.

[pocketmego]

What a fantastically quirky machine. I will say this for it. In this age of Sony and black machines, the z81 and speccy would fit right in. Its a nice looking machine.

So, do you feel that Micromen got the story right?

[SteveBenway]

@pocketmego Micromen was kind of like a period drama. Or like the catch all disclaimer says "Based on true events." The details of that program were somewhat fictionalised, but it gave a fair impression of how things went down between the companies and general events.

[TheBladeJunker]

Thank you for the excellent review, I think you were quite objective to the highs and lows of the system specs. The dual function keyboard kind of makes me wish my keyboard had other functions attached to my letter keys. I have only had brief experiences with tape loading which was slow but still better than manually inputting pages and pages of code to play Frogger. I enjoy seeing the ZX81 through your eyes but I like the ZX Spectrum more. ;)

[SteveBenway]

@TheBladeJunker I meant to talk a bit about typing in programs, but got rather sidetracked and forgot. Yeah, tape certainly beat that :)

[spiderchoc]

Brilliant review. Remember seeing these in my local Boots store when I was younger. Forgot just how small they were!

[SteveBenway]

@spiderchoc Did you type

10 PRINT "spiderchoc was here"

20 GOTO 10

RUN .....?

That's what display models were there for ;)

[spiderchoc]

@SteveBenway i was only 5 or 6 at the time at the time so i would of been some sort of super programmer if i had, lol

[evilbobbins]

Cracking review :) 

[SteveBenway]

@evilbobbins Thanks :)

[thepirategamerboy12]

Can u review the philips cdi and get Escape From Cyber City to review that as well?

[SteveBenway]

@thepirategamerboy12 I will review the CDi one of these days, as I plan to review every system in my collection. I don't buy games just for the sake of reviewing though, unless they're something I remember enjoying back in the day, and want to play again.

[thepirategamerboy12]

@SteveBenway Escape from Cyber City is an amazing game though. You will not regret getting it. :)

[desiv1]

Great review.. I wanted the TS1000 back then, but I think my family was a bit concerned about it's durability and I ended up with a Vic-20. Always appreciated the TS-1000/ZX81 tho...

[SteveBenway]

@desiv1 The Vic is definitely more solidly built and generally capable, and particularly in the US, had much better software support, so your family probably made the right choice :)

[DLiberator78]

A great system for its time. I never did own a ZX81 we were to poor to buy one, but a friend had one and I enjoyed programming it. Luckily I managed to talk my dad round and he finally bought me a ZX Spectrum + which was my first Sinclair machine. The edge connector was always a flimsy affair. A nice system review. It is a shame Sinclair didn't fully test their machines before releasing them.

[MaximumRD]

Great review! I do not think I have any interest in this lol.

[DLiberator78]

@MaximumRD Lol, yes I guess mostly people from the UK will have some nostalgia for the Sinclair systems they did better over here. Timex released them in the U.S not sure about Canada though.

[SteveBenway]

@MaximumRD Nostalgia is definitely a factor, so I can understand how you wouldn't be into it. I also have this quirky liking for things that are really rather crappy. Possibly the stereotypical "Englishman supporting the underdog" thing.

[lilacfloyd]

Very good video...

[SteveBenway]

@lilacfloyd Thank you :)