Hey Doo Wai , obviously Lacy is an Old student of yours and you were once close, just because you disagree with each other does not mean you should be disrespectful either.
I think for you to go on such a rant stating he cannot heal or does not know how is uncool.
I have known teachers who are big put down artists and that is not healing either.
My apologies for the confusion over the fact that the person in this video isn't the same name or at least claiming to be the same name of the account holder. However I will say this, this Doo Wai isn't whom he says he is. Neither is James Patrick Lacy. Both This Doo Wai and James Patrick Lacy in my opinion are in the same catagories as people like Ashida Kim and Frank Dux. I just don't believe that Doo Wai is this person's real name because as I said he looks a lot like that actor in kickboxer.
@SandmanFightingSys I never claimed to be "6th generation inherited Master"...GM Doo Wai is the 6th generation Family inherited Bak Fu Pai..HE IS THE SYSTEM. As for myself not being Dr Harout...there you are wrong. And this clip showed to the world that Lacy is a liar and doesn't know Bak Fu Pai.
For all who wish to see proof, I demand same of you. If you live after doing all 3 of same "accidents" as you may well die instead from injuries or be in wheelchair; then call yourself my equal. I do not think you will walk away injury free as I did. I believe my God Jesus protects me and in higher forms of Yoga and meditation you see firewalkers and other super human events. We do this with prayer and faith and that is true chi "life force" as God gives life to us all. Some say I am like monk.
why label god & say he is anything you nor any one can say anything that is the dow for words are not even real you speak of forum(Ego), god is none-forum (no ego) humble.
we are all your equal no matter what your ego says to you. Ego = voice in your head also called the name devil
I have never seen any so called master or anyone else "put up or shut up" and get hit by cars with no injuries, just big stories. For the record I use robic 505 stopwatch and timing is 1/1,000 th of second 100 times faster than human blink. I have hit speed bag 10 times in 33/100 of second, yet wish to be faster. True kung fu is "edge man" time and energy. I use both paper and 400 lb packed sand bag. I am saying so you may show power to survive auto strike worse than human strike and help others
@PCchessclub You sound ridiculously hard to believe. 10 punches in 33/100 of a second. Prove it. Put a HD high res video in real time and then in slow motion with other credible witnesses in video and then I will give U credit.
I wish to enlighten many here. I have several accident report as evidence and have been called chi kung master. I am humble student but do teach what I learn. I have been ran over by SUV and no fracture and body travel great distance. I have been out of car 130 mph and head on into telephone pole, no injuries, chi kung. I have been hit by truck and body travel 86 feet head on asphalt road no injuries. I say this as proof of chi kung and have broken stone wall of house, many boards too. Listen.
GM Doo Wai never denied of meeting Lacy, but Lacy doesn't know any Bak Fu Pai...thats why Lacy can not show any Bak Fu Pai form, if Lacy claims to have internal training, then let him show the elementary ging ( break from an inch)...this clip was done for those videos that were supposed to be given to a thrid person as demonstration videos...but Lacy stole them and crowned himself as grandmaster...what a pity
@DrHarout Wai Is Lying about GM Lacy I have many videos of Wai Teaching GM Lacy in Wai's home. Lacy was a Live in Student for years. Your probably have never met either one of them and truly don't know the real story behind why Wai is trying to take back the Jung Shee title given to him by Wai. You should know both sides before you accuse a person of stealing, esp. when it is Lacy's camera and tapes to begin with. Know what your talking about before you run your trap
@Hachidan1121 Either make Lacy perform the whole Bak Fu Pai forms ...or quietly go back to your corner...plus all of is know that Bak Fu Pai is an internal...but am asling only the forms.
Why then did it take from 1988 for you to say so? Jim has been upfront for decades. I have seen your signature on documentation authorizing Jim Lacy as Jung Shee of 18 Daoist Palms- he never claimed to be your sucessor of white tiger. Keep your bak fu pai!
@yamatefourwindsdojo Look who's talking...another so called uncle Jim's blind student....go and ask your uncle Jim to perform a single form with the speed that GM Doo Wai does...also tell him to perform a break by hitting from an inch...claiming internal iron palm but you use brute force...and we are sitting back and laughing at you
@DrHarout You fail to answere the basic question- Why has Jim lacy claimed to be Jung Shee of Sup Bot Mo Jung Pai since the late '80s- published in every Martial Arts publication- giving credit to GGM Doo Wai- only to be scandalized by you profiteers? Why the certificate authorizing the title? Second thoughts because he would not stay in the shed? Ask Vince Pepper.
Actually he does bring up a good point, I've seen Jim Lacy in magazines since the 80's, and receiving man of the year awards from various organizations. I'm not even a student of White Tiger, or 18 Daoist Palms, what I find a pity is there is no documentation of Bak Fu Pai apart from the infighting of a couple of old women. How does this further the art? Really? I would like to see some White Tiger Kung Fu without the stupid fighting.
@KnightsofTrueNorth : the benefits and the results are so profound that the students of bfp are not willing to share...but you can have some idea about Bak Fu Pai through the clips uploaded and try the chi gung exercises,as for Lacy,you're free whatever you think about him.the guy can not even show a simgle Bak Fu Pai form and all his breaks are brute force, no internal ging in them...this is not how things done in Bak Fu Pai.
@DrHarout I wonder, all I hear about this lacy guy is he is not part of bok fu pai. I googled him and found that he doesn't claim this bok fu pai stuff but 18 doist thing. Why do you comment on that?
@peacefulmind319 lacy used GM Doo Wai's name and image illegally and claimed that GM Doo Wai is his teacher...am not mentioning that he stole videos that are not instructional and claimed himself as grandmaster based upon those stolen videos
@DrHarout I have looked at this lacy guy, and no where have I been able to find where he claims he is grandmaster of bok fu pai. In fact it seems he claims this 18 doist palm stuff. So why do you know say he is not this 18 doist plam grandmaster? Just wondering becuase every place I have seen anything, it is also do wai saying he in not bok fu pai grandmaster but does not say anything else.
@peacefulmind319 You are correct peace GM Lacy was Given the Jung Shee Title over a Portion of what Wai taught. Wai could of stopped this in the courts and he would have if he had a leg to stand on he is outright lying about Jim never being his student He Lived with Wai as alive in student for quite a few years. I know both of them. I know why Wai is saying this. Lacy has All the Documentation SIGNED BY WAI for what he claimes to be the 7th Gen GM of.
Why does the Grandmaster Doo Wai has to do that on youtube...shouldnt one of his student deal with that Lacy guy...I mean it looks serious and important that we dont follow him but I taught a Grandmaster wouldnt have to do that unless the guy beats up everyone under him (like in a Bruce Lee movie)
@IcefistIII Your decision to 'ban' me from posting here is childish - I ask legitimate questions....have you done these ( let's use your word) "revivals"? I still don't see how asking these questions of your claims makes me a moron. No one forced Harout to make the claim, but if you put it out there you can't be shocked about inquiries. Harout even said on the KFM forum such a claim should provide proof from non-biased audience but you guys refuse to do so.
@IcefistIII Your decision to 'ban' me from posting here is childish - I ask legitimate questions....have you done these ( let's use your word) "revivals"? I still don't see how asking these questions of your claims makes me a moron. No one forced Harout to make the claim, but if you put it out there you can't be shocked about inquiries. Harout even said on the KFM forum such a claim should provide proof from non-biased audience but you guys refuse to do so. I'm sure you'll just ban me again lol
So you don't deny your claim of the ability of resurrection? I don't care much about claims of breaking bricks or cocoanuts, who can do what BFP form at what speed (although the Wai sword form video on the schools website us both laughable and embarrassing)
My doubt is your ability to raise the dead, which you refuse to recant.
@IcefistIII you don't "what" that I am a Christian? Beside, what has it to do with me? You guys are the one's who claim the ability of resurrection, which goes against Christian belief.
Nice try icefist - but I am not the one who made the claims
@IcefistIII What does my being a Christian or not have to do with anything?
Go back to my first post here, piece together the link to the BFP forum where Harout claims the ability to "Revive a dead, beheaded insect 5 minutes after beheading"
This ability would be included in my definition of Resurrection, bringing a dead beheaded insect back to life.... What is your definition of resurrection ?
@yd0137 The Christian definition of “resurrection” refers to the bringing back of life to biologically dead humans by the divine power of God. There is also a "spiritual resurrection” known as "Eternal Life" where the "spiritually dead" human beings (like you) who are blind (ignorant) to their spiritual nature and the possibility of salvation are resurrected. This is a spiritual awakening and a subsequent transformation to a life of "Holiness".
@yd0137 So your use of the word "resurrection" here is out of context and is offensive to Christians. As you may know (but I doubt you do) the concept of chi (the life force) is an integral component of the Chinese healing arts. The BFP chi gung we practice is NOT spiritually based and it does not contradict any of the teaching of Christ or any other major religion.
@yd0137 While thru our cultivation of chi energy for healing, we may develop the ability to heal the injured and the sick, bring insects and small animals back to life, plus make plants grow, these skills are not contrary to the teaching of Christ. We cannot nor do we claim to have the ability to raise human beings from the dead. Our motto is the proof is in the results!!!!
@IcefistIII Merrian Webster definition of resurrection (number 2): resurgence,revival
You claim to "revive" beheaded insects - Harout even claims some can "revive" small rodents. Do you reconnect their heads? Or do these insects buzz around headless? Don't complain to me if the use of the word resurrection is offensive, that is what you guy's claim you can do. If you feel it only applies to human beings and not animals that's not my problem.
Come now, good Doctor, surely this is impossible. If not prove it. To continue to reaffirm this statement while saying we won't prove it is childish at best, flat out deceiving people at worst. According to the forum it was you who first posted this outrageous claim, and you look the fool for it.
@yd0137 impossible for you..because your mind says so...Bak Fu Pai chi gung has such high chi gung meditations that allow to revive insects and even small rodents and I'll assume you know what chi is...many call it "life force"...but we will not show off as we do not show off even Bak Fu Pai's elementary ging...like breaking from 2 inch distance.
Look at an earlier response- on the BFP forum they claim in order to be true BFP one requirement is to be able to "revive a dead, beheaded insect, 5 minutes after beheading" to prove BFP healing abilities. Their words, not mine. I say prove it. They balk. They lie. I have nothing to due with the Lacy clown either.
Why am I ignorant? Do you not claim this ability? Can it be done with things other than insects? Simple questions regarding your claims. No one force you to put that ridiculous statement out there, you did it on your own.
Ironman - since I can't seem to register on your crazy little forum, where you guy's claim the ability of resurrection I'll post here...What do you say about this power you BFP guy's claim? Have you done it or seen it done? Am I deluding myself that you are a separate person from Harout and/or Doo Wai? Isn't the power of resurrection contradictory to Christianity? Is this power only restricted to bringing back insects? If I'd have known, I had a really great boxer you could have returned to me.
My questions are silly? YOU claim the ability of resurrection and my questioning it is silly? Keep talking clown, you are making a huge butt hole out of yourself.
Harout, ironman or wai of whomever you are, my friend YOU are the silly one
@yd0137 We are not a religion. But we respect all religions that are righteous and believe in helping others. I am a Christian and BFP is not contrary to my faith in Christ and the All Mighty God.
Again- <YOU> made the claim of your abilities, I merely pointed them out on a larger forum for more people to see.Can you resurrect animals and humans or is it just specified to insects? If I had the abilities you make I would show the world and use it to help people. I call BS and until you prove it you are liars and clowns
You made the resurrection claim on your schizophrenic forums, not me. That looks like bragging to me.
So you won't prove it, it must be faith-based. Like a religion? Do you guys file for religious tax-exemption in Ca? Sounds very cultish to me, remember heavens gate and hale bop? Which comet are you guys hopping aboard and when?
If you put up a video, proven to be authentic by a neutral third party, that shows you bringing a beheaded insect back to life I would gladly 'lose face'
Until you do, and if you continue to make such claims you guys are clowns.
And I could care less about Lacy too, but he doesn't make 'miraculous' claims.
But, like you coconut break video, this resurrection video will never occur. Like I said, clowns.
Ok Doc, videotape it or it's a lie. I'll tell you something - by claiming to heal afead beheaded insect you guys aren't the only ones "sitting back laughing". That statement alone makes you look like clowns.
Dr Harout - can you actually revive a dead beheaded insect 5 mintues after it's beheading as stated here: doowaibfp. forumup. org/ about864-doowaibfp. html
( remove spaces)? Or can Doo Wai, since he is the GM?
Not making this stuff up folks, this is what these guys claim they can do - it's on their own forum
I'm Blind? I once was a active practitioner of bak fu pai.. But When Seeing this video and GM Doo Wai Claiming This Crap. and then seeing videos of GM Lacy and GM Doo Wai practicing together in Bak Fu Pai. I Quit bak Fu Pai, Because Im Not going to practise under a GM like Doo Wai
@zack822 you claim to be active praactitionar ...and I'd assume you haven't even reached high level and I doubt you have done any internal training..otherwise you wouldn't dare to "bad mouth" the system...as I said GM DOO WAI IS THE SYSTEM...you're another jealous person who likes to badmouth because you couldn't get what you were greedy for
@DrHarout just asking! so dont get all mad at me. I have known Lacy for over 14 years and have several of his videos. although im not greatly impressed with what he sent me I do see benefit in them. And if Doo Wai is telling the truth, why does lacy know so much about the system?
@DrHarout well Master Wai I will take ur word for it as ur r the inheritor of the system. I feel bad for you and Lacy for what has happened. For you as he stole information and uses ur name and for him for doing what he did in order to be recognised.
If Lacy has never been a student of doo wai.. then why have a personally seen videos of doo wai and lacy training together.. I There is a number of pictures showing these two together.. doo wai has been corrupted by greed.. and its sad because this is a great system.. but its been tainted by greed..
Please Explain This Letter yfrog. com/ evwaiendorsementj
@zack822 First of all...Bak Fu Pai belongs solely to GM Doo Wai..HE IS THE SYSTEM..without Him, there would not be Bak Fu Pai...and no one bragging to come and learn Bak Fu Pai... you like Lacy? go and follow him..like a blind follows a blind.
im just wondering is this jim lacy same as Grandmaster (Jung Shee) James Patrick Lacy
7th generation Five Elder Monk Mew Hing's 18 Daoist Palms
because he breaks coconuts pure strength and in amazing ways and when we was young he would break them in 1 hit, now he seems old and kinda burned out on breaking coconuts
If you believe in whom you call 7th generation...then go and follow him..but as you see Grandmaster Doo Wai is telling the public that this person who is claiming to be "7th generation grandmaster" was never part of Bak Fu Pai
Plus...as for breaking...if you have trained the internal correctly, your power will be much more in old age...Lacy uses brute force...ask him to break from an inch with what seems to viewers as a "light touch".
Why you're using an arrogant tone?...do whatever suits you...and those tapes are not instructional...and in my opinion, you'll reach nowhere..plus no one is bragging you to become BFP student.
I do not know Doo Wai or Lacy. I do know that Doo Wai is very high level. Lacy demonstrates breaking coconuts with different parts of his body very easy. He could not have created this himself. Nor could he have watched a few videos then accomplish this. He had to study with Doo Wai for some time. I am not saying Lacy is a linage holder or a grandmaster. I am impressed with his breaking. If Bak fu pai breaking is different from what he is doing. Continued----
Lacy has not been a student of GM Doo Wai....if he has been what he claims, then he should been able to do forms at the same speed and ging as GM Doo Wai does and tas for breaks...the breaks should be done from an inch and hitting once.
This guy is a legend but "chi" and things like that are simply control over your own body and more to do with mind then muscle :) but I respect what you do, but everyone is entitled to an opinion :)
Yes, one can say that Chi is the link between the mind and the muscle... as it flows under the aponeurosis and along lines that connect the brain and nervous system with all the organs (including muscle) integrating our entire physiology as a whole.
I have seen a number of qigong frauds over many years, this doesn't surprise me. They prey on people's hope and vulnerability for money and personal gain..typical charlatan stuff...good luck master DW
Wow, I had been in an isolated area & thought about the name James Lacy, I had been practicing tai chi a while and decided to get some more video, got a catalog & noticed Martial Arts tapes (10) by..!James Lacy!? I got his tapes later spoke with him on the phone, he states he's a Christian and his teacher wanted him to study the Bodhisattva,etc. Anyway he sold me some "fresh" (?) tapes by Grand master Doo Wai, which I really loved & learned them all. Never really got to those Mew Hing tapes.
On the tapes of Doo Wai that I purchased from Lacy, Doo Wai Acknowledges Lacy in his intro but also states that all further routines will be distributed directly by him (Doo WaI). Unfortunately I lost the Doo Wai tapes during a move. : ( But still have the Lacy tapes, I wonder if they're worth anything, was there really Mew Hing?
That's funny and in another way it's not right , it's just kind of rediculous that the jim lacy guy has on his videos "grandmaster jim lacy" then he tries to break a coconut and bangs his elbow on a tree . That particular video was just rediculous , it's kind of sad that he's just some guy who will do anything for some money . And it's not the first time either , it was the same with that george dillman character .
About George Dillman I can say I dont believe in his "not touch KO" and all his "hokus pokus techniques" but I have to say some of his pressure points, nerve attack and cavities strikes work too. All is not black, all is not white in Dillman Method.
Fake or not his techniques, Dillman did not lie about his Masters, Jim Lacy did.
Jim Lacy doesn't know Bak Fu Pai, even he is honorary green belt in kempo but self promoted himself to black belt in ammonth, thats what we have been told by his kempo teacher. Jim Lacy stole some videos which were not meant for him, and those videos were not instructional videos, and he started to claim to be Bak Fu Pai..but he can not even perform a single Bak Fu Pai form, nor has internal training nor herbal knowledge.
Jim Lacey is the biggest fraud standing right next to Ashida Kim. It's about time someone exposed him for what he is! Bravo Grandmaster Doo Wai, and doa'che... :D
GMDW, I have known of you for many years. I am happy to see you are well. Thank you for clarifying this. I saw Mr lacy on video and felt that he did not seem to have a good foundation. He is the one who looks like a fool now in light of the truth.
Kungfutigergirl, whoever you are, it is about a person name Jim Lacy, he had and is in the middle of his second or third book, he is trying to claim as my successor but he is a fraud out there cheating people. No taking advantagem there is nothing to take advantage of, this video clip said it all. Jim is not my successor.This had been going on for over 20 yrs. Before the schools were open.
Always with you master. Not sure about what this issue is all about, but your studetns stand by you. Sorry to hear people take advantage of your kindness. God bless...
Jim will never confront me, he will just do it the sly way. He said if the public think I am your successor then I am and there is nothing you can do about it. And that is the reason for this video.Because he is trying to publish a book.
Hey Doo Wai , obviously Lacy is an Old student of yours and you were once close, just because you disagree with each other does not mean you should be disrespectful either.
I think for you to go on such a rant stating he cannot heal or does not know how is uncool.
I have known teachers who are big put down artists and that is not healing either.
jonnyblaze777 2 months ago
@jonnyblaze777 mind your own business...do not interfere in issues you know nothing about.
DrHarout 2 months ago in playlist My Top Videos
My apologies for the confusion over the fact that the person in this video isn't the same name or at least claiming to be the same name of the account holder. However I will say this, this Doo Wai isn't whom he says he is. Neither is James Patrick Lacy. Both This Doo Wai and James Patrick Lacy in my opinion are in the same catagories as people like Ashida Kim and Frank Dux. I just don't believe that Doo Wai is this person's real name because as I said he looks a lot like that actor in kickboxer.
SandmanFightingSys 3 months ago
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SandmanFightingSys 4 months ago
@SandmanFightingSys I never claimed to be "6th generation inherited Master"...GM Doo Wai is the 6th generation Family inherited Bak Fu Pai..HE IS THE SYSTEM. As for myself not being Dr Harout...there you are wrong. And this clip showed to the world that Lacy is a liar and doesn't know Bak Fu Pai.
DrHarout 4 months ago
For all who wish to see proof, I demand same of you. If you live after doing all 3 of same "accidents" as you may well die instead from injuries or be in wheelchair; then call yourself my equal. I do not think you will walk away injury free as I did. I believe my God Jesus protects me and in higher forms of Yoga and meditation you see firewalkers and other super human events. We do this with prayer and faith and that is true chi "life force" as God gives life to us all. Some say I am like monk.
PCchessclub 11 months ago
@PCchessclub i say you are like EGO
vishesfishes 7 months ago
Respond to this video... chi is all energy
why label god & say he is anything you nor any one can say anything that is the dow for words are not even real you speak of forum(Ego), god is none-forum (no ego) humble.
we are all your equal no matter what your ego says to you. Ego = voice in your head also called the name devil
vishesfishes 7 months ago
I have never seen any so called master or anyone else "put up or shut up" and get hit by cars with no injuries, just big stories. For the record I use robic 505 stopwatch and timing is 1/1,000 th of second 100 times faster than human blink. I have hit speed bag 10 times in 33/100 of second, yet wish to be faster. True kung fu is "edge man" time and energy. I use both paper and 400 lb packed sand bag. I am saying so you may show power to survive auto strike worse than human strike and help others
PCchessclub 11 months ago
@PCchessclub Sand bags do not hit back
vishesfishes 7 months ago
@PCchessclub You sound ridiculously hard to believe. 10 punches in 33/100 of a second. Prove it. Put a HD high res video in real time and then in slow motion with other credible witnesses in video and then I will give U credit.
TexasSizzle 6 months ago
I wish to enlighten many here. I have several accident report as evidence and have been called chi kung master. I am humble student but do teach what I learn. I have been ran over by SUV and no fracture and body travel great distance. I have been out of car 130 mph and head on into telephone pole, no injuries, chi kung. I have been hit by truck and body travel 86 feet head on asphalt road no injuries. I say this as proof of chi kung and have broken stone wall of house, many boards too. Listen.
PCchessclub 11 months ago
@PCchessclub you must be jokeing you are humble yet you show off that you are tuff? that is not humble that is Ego
vishesfishes 7 months ago
Good luck to you, Grandmaster Doo Wai, may you bring honor to your highly esteemed family.
LoneMonk1 1 year ago
GM Doo Wai never denied of meeting Lacy, but Lacy doesn't know any Bak Fu Pai...thats why Lacy can not show any Bak Fu Pai form, if Lacy claims to have internal training, then let him show the elementary ging ( break from an inch)...this clip was done for those videos that were supposed to be given to a thrid person as demonstration videos...but Lacy stole them and crowned himself as grandmaster...what a pity
DrHarout 1 year ago
@DrHarout Wai Is Lying about GM Lacy I have many videos of Wai Teaching GM Lacy in Wai's home. Lacy was a Live in Student for years. Your probably have never met either one of them and truly don't know the real story behind why Wai is trying to take back the Jung Shee title given to him by Wai. You should know both sides before you accuse a person of stealing, esp. when it is Lacy's camera and tapes to begin with. Know what your talking about before you run your trap
Hachidan1121 2 months ago
@Hachidan1121 Either make Lacy perform the whole Bak Fu Pai forms ...or quietly go back to your corner...plus all of is know that Bak Fu Pai is an internal...but am asling only the forms.
DrHarout 2 months ago in playlist My Top Videos
smh at kung fu politics
what happened to the days where people just ended things with challenge matches
YoungCrs 1 year ago
Why then did it take from 1988 for you to say so? Jim has been upfront for decades. I have seen your signature on documentation authorizing Jim Lacy as Jung Shee of 18 Daoist Palms- he never claimed to be your sucessor of white tiger. Keep your bak fu pai!
yamatefourwindsdojo 1 year ago
@yamatefourwindsdojo Look who's talking...another so called uncle Jim's blind student....go and ask your uncle Jim to perform a single form with the speed that GM Doo Wai does...also tell him to perform a break by hitting from an inch...claiming internal iron palm but you use brute force...and we are sitting back and laughing at you
DrHarout 1 year ago
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yamatefourwindsdojo 1 year ago
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@DrHarout You fail to answere the basic question- Why has Jim lacy claimed to be Jung Shee of Sup Bot Mo Jung Pai since the late '80s- published in every Martial Arts publication- giving credit to GGM Doo Wai- only to be scandalized by you profiteers? Why the certificate authorizing the title? Second thoughts because he would not stay in the shed? Ask Vince Pepper.
yamatefourwindsdojo 1 year ago
@DrHarout
Actually he does bring up a good point, I've seen Jim Lacy in magazines since the 80's, and receiving man of the year awards from various organizations. I'm not even a student of White Tiger, or 18 Daoist Palms, what I find a pity is there is no documentation of Bak Fu Pai apart from the infighting of a couple of old women. How does this further the art? Really? I would like to see some White Tiger Kung Fu without the stupid fighting.
KnightsofTrueNorth 1 year ago
@KnightsofTrueNorth : the benefits and the results are so profound that the students of bfp are not willing to share...but you can have some idea about Bak Fu Pai through the clips uploaded and try the chi gung exercises,as for Lacy,you're free whatever you think about him.the guy can not even show a simgle Bak Fu Pai form and all his breaks are brute force, no internal ging in them...this is not how things done in Bak Fu Pai.
DrHarout 1 year ago
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KnightsofTrueNorth 1 year ago
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KnightsofTrueNorth 1 year ago
@DrHarout I wonder, all I hear about this lacy guy is he is not part of bok fu pai. I googled him and found that he doesn't claim this bok fu pai stuff but 18 doist thing. Why do you comment on that?
peacefulmind319 6 months ago
@peacefulmind319 lacy used GM Doo Wai's name and image illegally and claimed that GM Doo Wai is his teacher...am not mentioning that he stole videos that are not instructional and claimed himself as grandmaster based upon those stolen videos
DrHarout 6 months ago
@DrHarout I have looked at this lacy guy, and no where have I been able to find where he claims he is grandmaster of bok fu pai. In fact it seems he claims this 18 doist palm stuff. So why do you know say he is not this 18 doist plam grandmaster? Just wondering becuase every place I have seen anything, it is also do wai saying he in not bok fu pai grandmaster but does not say anything else.
peacefulmind319 6 months ago
@peacefulmind319 You are correct peace GM Lacy was Given the Jung Shee Title over a Portion of what Wai taught. Wai could of stopped this in the courts and he would have if he had a leg to stand on he is outright lying about Jim never being his student He Lived with Wai as alive in student for quite a few years. I know both of them. I know why Wai is saying this. Lacy has All the Documentation SIGNED BY WAI for what he claimes to be the 7th Gen GM of.
Hachidan1121 2 months ago
I dont want to be in Lacy's shoes right now
shalty666 1 year ago
Why does the Grandmaster Doo Wai has to do that on youtube...shouldnt one of his student deal with that Lacy guy...I mean it looks serious and important that we dont follow him but I taught a Grandmaster wouldnt have to do that unless the guy beats up everyone under him (like in a Bruce Lee movie)
shalty666 1 year ago
Your Pai makes this ridiculous claim, refuses to prove it or recant it and I'm the moron? Wow, what kind of kool-aide are they serving out there?
Do you or don't you reconnect the heads?
yd0137 1 year ago
@yd0137 Sorry we do not have the ability to heal your brain or reconnect your head to your body, moron. Move on and get a life.
IcefistIII 1 year ago
@IcefistIII Your decision to 'ban' me from posting here is childish - I ask legitimate questions....have you done these ( let's use your word) "revivals"? I still don't see how asking these questions of your claims makes me a moron. No one forced Harout to make the claim, but if you put it out there you can't be shocked about inquiries. Harout even said on the KFM forum such a claim should provide proof from non-biased audience but you guys refuse to do so.
I'm sure you'll just ban me again lol
clflpstudent 1 year ago
@clflpstudent I told on KFM...I have my own schedule and will not care for inquiries.
DrHarout 1 year ago
@yd0137 You are an embarrassment to your family (pai).
IcefistIII 1 year ago
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@IcefistIII Your decision to 'ban' me from posting here is childish - I ask legitimate questions....have you done these ( let's use your word) "revivals"? I still don't see how asking these questions of your claims makes me a moron. No one forced Harout to make the claim, but if you put it out there you can't be shocked about inquiries. Harout even said on the KFM forum such a claim should provide proof from non-biased audience but you guys refuse to do so. I'm sure you'll just ban me again lol
clflpstudent 1 year ago
So you don't deny your claim of the ability of resurrection? I don't care much about claims of breaking bricks or cocoanuts, who can do what BFP form at what speed (although the Wai sword form video on the schools website us both laughable and embarrassing)
My doubt is your ability to raise the dead, which you refuse to recant.
You are nuts!
yd0137 1 year ago
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@yd0137 I don't that you are a Christian.
IcefistIII 1 year ago
@IcefistIII you don't "what" that I am a Christian? Beside, what has it to do with me? You guys are the one's who claim the ability of resurrection, which goes against Christian belief.
Nice try icefist - but I am not the one who made the claims
yd0137 1 year ago
@yd0137 Are you a Christian? Please define the term "resurrection"? So that i can appropriately respond to your questions.
IcefistIII 1 year ago
@IcefistIII What does my being a Christian or not have to do with anything?
Go back to my first post here, piece together the link to the BFP forum where Harout claims the ability to "Revive a dead, beheaded insect 5 minutes after beheading"
This ability would be included in my definition of Resurrection, bringing a dead beheaded insect back to life.... What is your definition of resurrection ?
yd0137 1 year ago
@yd0137 The Christian definition of “resurrection” refers to the bringing back of life to biologically dead humans by the divine power of God. There is also a "spiritual resurrection” known as "Eternal Life" where the "spiritually dead" human beings (like you) who are blind (ignorant) to their spiritual nature and the possibility of salvation are resurrected. This is a spiritual awakening and a subsequent transformation to a life of "Holiness".
IcefistIII 1 year ago
@yd0137 So your use of the word "resurrection" here is out of context and is offensive to Christians. As you may know (but I doubt you do) the concept of chi (the life force) is an integral component of the Chinese healing arts. The BFP chi gung we practice is NOT spiritually based and it does not contradict any of the teaching of Christ or any other major religion.
IcefistIII 1 year ago
@yd0137 While thru our cultivation of chi energy for healing, we may develop the ability to heal the injured and the sick, bring insects and small animals back to life, plus make plants grow, these skills are not contrary to the teaching of Christ. We cannot nor do we claim to have the ability to raise human beings from the dead. Our motto is the proof is in the results!!!!
IcefistIII 1 year ago
@IcefistIII Merrian Webster definition of resurrection (number 2): resurgence,revival
You claim to "revive" beheaded insects - Harout even claims some can "revive" small rodents. Do you reconnect their heads? Or do these insects buzz around headless? Don't complain to me if the use of the word resurrection is offensive, that is what you guy's claim you can do. If you feel it only applies to human beings and not animals that's not my problem.
yd0137 1 year ago
@yd0137 i agree with Dr. Harout; you really are a moron.
IcefistIII 1 year ago
Come now, good Doctor, surely this is impossible. If not prove it. To continue to reaffirm this statement while saying we won't prove it is childish at best, flat out deceiving people at worst. According to the forum it was you who first posted this outrageous claim, and you look the fool for it.
yd0137 1 year ago
@yd0137 impossible for you..because your mind says so...Bak Fu Pai chi gung has such high chi gung meditations that allow to revive insects and even small rodents and I'll assume you know what chi is...many call it "life force"...but we will not show off as we do not show off even Bak Fu Pai's elementary ging...like breaking from 2 inch distance.
DrHarout 1 year ago
Look at an earlier response- on the BFP forum they claim in order to be true BFP one requirement is to be able to "revive a dead, beheaded insect, 5 minutes after beheading" to prove BFP healing abilities. Their words, not mine. I say prove it. They balk. They lie. I have nothing to due with the Lacy clown either.
yd0137 1 year ago
@yd0137 yes, and you're free not to believe and we will not give any proof.
DrHarout 1 year ago
Why am I ignorant? Do you not claim this ability? Can it be done with things other than insects? Simple questions regarding your claims. No one force you to put that ridiculous statement out there, you did it on your own.
yd0137 1 year ago
Ironman - since I can't seem to register on your crazy little forum, where you guy's claim the ability of resurrection I'll post here...What do you say about this power you BFP guy's claim? Have you done it or seen it done? Am I deluding myself that you are a separate person from Harout and/or Doo Wai? Isn't the power of resurrection contradictory to Christianity? Is this power only restricted to bringing back insects? If I'd have known, I had a really great boxer you could have returned to me.
yd0137 1 year ago
@yd0137 you are very ignorant.
DrHarout 1 year ago
@yd0137 Please define what you mean by the term "resurrection"?
IcefistIII 1 year ago
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nobody will believe this,lol
dragob732 1 year ago
My questions are silly? YOU claim the ability of resurrection and my questioning it is silly? Keep talking clown, you are making a huge butt hole out of yourself.
Harout, ironman or wai of whomever you are, my friend YOU are the silly one
yd0137 1 year ago
So performing resurrections is not contrary to Christianity? I bet there are a lot of Christians who would wholeheartedly disagree with that.
Is it restricted to insects or not?
yd0137 1 year ago
@yd0137 Go away your questions are silly... We never claimed to be God or the Son of God... Go away moron and go to church.
DrHarout 1 year ago
BTW I am not Lacy. He's a clown too but at least he dosent claim to be able to perform resurrections.
You know me Doc, I just like to see you when you have sand in your va-jay-jay
yd0137 1 year ago
@yd0137 We are not a religion. But we respect all religions that are righteous and believe in helping others. I am a Christian and BFP is not contrary to my faith in Christ and the All Mighty God.
DrHarout 1 year ago
Again- <YOU> made the claim of your abilities, I merely pointed them out on a larger forum for more people to see.Can you resurrect animals and humans or is it just specified to insects? If I had the abilities you make I would show the world and use it to help people. I call BS and until you prove it you are liars and clowns
yd0137 1 year ago
You made the resurrection claim on your schizophrenic forums, not me. That looks like bragging to me.
So you won't prove it, it must be faith-based. Like a religion? Do you guys file for religious tax-exemption in Ca? Sounds very cultish to me, remember heavens gate and hale bop? Which comet are you guys hopping aboard and when?
yd0137 1 year ago
If you put up a video, proven to be authentic by a neutral third party, that shows you bringing a beheaded insect back to life I would gladly 'lose face'
Until you do, and if you continue to make such claims you guys are clowns.
And I could care less about Lacy too, but he doesn't make 'miraculous' claims.
But, like you coconut break video, this resurrection video will never occur. Like I said, clowns.
yd0137 1 year ago
@yd0137 the proof is in the results. Learn the the gung fu and the chi gung and judge for yourself, Jimmy Boy!
DrHarout 1 year ago
Ok Doc, videotape it or it's a lie. I'll tell you something - by claiming to heal afead beheaded insect you guys aren't the only ones "sitting back laughing". That statement alone makes you look like clowns.
yd0137 1 year ago
Dr Harout - can you actually revive a dead beheaded insect 5 mintues after it's beheading as stated here: doowaibfp. forumup. org/ about864-doowaibfp. html
( remove spaces)? Or can Doo Wai, since he is the GM?
Not making this stuff up folks, this is what these guys claim they can do - it's on their own forum
yd0137 1 year ago
Fuck lacy.Bow
abraxnos 1 year ago
@abraxnos : please Sir, no profanities...edit your comment
DrHarout 1 year ago
I'm Blind? I once was a active practitioner of bak fu pai.. But When Seeing this video and GM Doo Wai Claiming This Crap. and then seeing videos of GM Lacy and GM Doo Wai practicing together in Bak Fu Pai. I Quit bak Fu Pai, Because Im Not going to practise under a GM like Doo Wai
zack822 1 year ago
@zack822 you claim to be active praactitionar ...and I'd assume you haven't even reached high level and I doubt you have done any internal training..otherwise you wouldn't dare to "bad mouth" the system...as I said GM DOO WAI IS THE SYSTEM...you're another jealous person who likes to badmouth because you couldn't get what you were greedy for
DrHarout 1 year ago
@DrHarout just asking! so dont get all mad at me. I have known Lacy for over 14 years and have several of his videos. although im not greatly impressed with what he sent me I do see benefit in them. And if Doo Wai is telling the truth, why does lacy know so much about the system?
jiggahippo 1 year ago
@jiggahippo good luck to you...what does lacy knows about the system?...nothing..let him show what he knows here on youtube...
DrHarout 1 year ago
@DrHarout well Master Wai I will take ur word for it as ur r the inheritor of the system. I feel bad for you and Lacy for what has happened. For you as he stole information and uses ur name and for him for doing what he did in order to be recognised.
take care Master Wai.
jiggahippo 1 year ago
If Lacy has never been a student of doo wai.. then why have a personally seen videos of doo wai and lacy training together.. I There is a number of pictures showing these two together.. doo wai has been corrupted by greed.. and its sad because this is a great system.. but its been tainted by greed..
Please Explain This Letter yfrog. com/ evwaiendorsementj
zack822 1 year ago
@zack822 First of all...Bak Fu Pai belongs solely to GM Doo Wai..HE IS THE SYSTEM..without Him, there would not be Bak Fu Pai...and no one bragging to come and learn Bak Fu Pai... you like Lacy? go and follow him..like a blind follows a blind.
DrHarout 1 year ago
im just wondering is this jim lacy same as Grandmaster (Jung Shee) James Patrick Lacy
7th generation Five Elder Monk Mew Hing's 18 Daoist Palms
because he breaks coconuts pure strength and in amazing ways and when we was young he would break them in 1 hit, now he seems old and kinda burned out on breaking coconuts
theconqueror 1 year ago
If you believe in whom you call 7th generation...then go and follow him..but as you see Grandmaster Doo Wai is telling the public that this person who is claiming to be "7th generation grandmaster" was never part of Bak Fu Pai
DrHarout 1 year ago
Plus...as for breaking...if you have trained the internal correctly, your power will be much more in old age...Lacy uses brute force...ask him to break from an inch with what seems to viewers as a "light touch".
DrHarout 1 year ago
u call me arragont at least im not fake or stealing tapes like lacy and u claim hes a fake so how am i arragont
mikecjj 2 years ago
your sentence: "kan u teach me then"...has arrogant tone.
DrHarout 2 years ago
yes lacey does suck i have some of the tapes kan u teach me then
mikecjj 2 years ago
Why you're using an arrogant tone?...do whatever suits you...and those tapes are not instructional...and in my opinion, you'll reach nowhere..plus no one is bragging you to become BFP student.
DrHarout 2 years ago
GM Doo Wai I'm a Student of the Late GM David German's and his TAI System. I wanted to ask if you recall teaching white tiger to David German?
NETAIKARATE 2 years ago
I dont know lacy but ordered some of his tapes. If Lacy got to the level of breaking he did just through video tapes then Lacy is a genius.
chiman1000 2 years ago
Lacy uses brute force..that is not what we do in Bak Fu Pai..if you are convinced that Lacy is genious then that is your choice
DrHarout 2 years ago
I do not know Doo Wai or Lacy. I do know that Doo Wai is very high level. Lacy demonstrates breaking coconuts with different parts of his body very easy. He could not have created this himself. Nor could he have watched a few videos then accomplish this. He had to study with Doo Wai for some time. I am not saying Lacy is a linage holder or a grandmaster. I am impressed with his breaking. If Bak fu pai breaking is different from what he is doing. Continued----
chiman1000 2 years ago
I hope someone from white tiger will show on youtube. Why Bak fu pai is different? It looks the same to me??? Thank you for your responce.
chiman1000 2 years ago
Lacy has not been a student of GM Doo Wai....if he has been what he claims, then he should been able to do forms at the same speed and ging as GM Doo Wai does and tas for breaks...the breaks should be done from an inch and hitting once.
DrHarout 2 years ago
DrHarout;
Thankyou for sharing this with us.
Respect.
TAEKWONDOBILL 3 years ago
Not very convincing.
chukthunder 3 years ago
Thats your opinion Sir...have a nice day
DrHarout 3 years ago
This guy is a legend but "chi" and things like that are simply control over your own body and more to do with mind then muscle :) but I respect what you do, but everyone is entitled to an opinion :)
chriswolf20 3 years ago
Chi is more deep.
DrHarout 3 years ago
Yes, one can say that Chi is the link between the mind and the muscle... as it flows under the aponeurosis and along lines that connect the brain and nervous system with all the organs (including muscle) integrating our entire physiology as a whole.
BodyFitLife 3 years ago
Well you look genuinely upset Don't let it bother you. Thanks for the warning.
blurfist 3 years ago
Am not genuinely upset...anyway...we are on our opinion...Lacy is a fake and fraud and doesn't have the right to claim anything concerning Bak Fu Pai
DrHarout 3 years ago
Is this true?
Pauljos79 3 years ago
Yes, it is true.
IcefistIII 3 years ago
who cares, just train.
1ToNJaB 3 years ago
Respectfully, Why so long before this was said?
UKBaGuaZhang 3 years ago
It was said always since day one.
DrHarout 3 years ago
I know someone who used his iron body techniques and he said they worked.
Soulblackman 3 years ago
And thank you very much.
napalmpk 3 years ago
I have seen a number of qigong frauds over many years, this doesn't surprise me. They prey on people's hope and vulnerability for money and personal gain..typical charlatan stuff...good luck master DW
elscooch 3 years ago
It's ridiculous that people would try to claim
a title or lineage to any martial art without
proper certification! What a disgrace! Shame
on Jim!
CarlosMacMartin 3 years ago
OOOH!
shengchenfan 3 years ago
Wow, I had been in an isolated area & thought about the name James Lacy, I had been practicing tai chi a while and decided to get some more video, got a catalog & noticed Martial Arts tapes (10) by..!James Lacy!? I got his tapes later spoke with him on the phone, he states he's a Christian and his teacher wanted him to study the Bodhisattva,etc. Anyway he sold me some "fresh" (?) tapes by Grand master Doo Wai, which I really loved & learned them all. Never really got to those Mew Hing tapes.
chiki329 3 years ago
On the tapes of Doo Wai that I purchased from Lacy, Doo Wai Acknowledges Lacy in his intro but also states that all further routines will be distributed directly by him (Doo WaI). Unfortunately I lost the Doo Wai tapes during a move. : ( But still have the Lacy tapes, I wonder if they're worth anything, was there really Mew Hing?
chiki329 2 years ago
That's funny and in another way it's not right , it's just kind of rediculous that the jim lacy guy has on his videos "grandmaster jim lacy" then he tries to break a coconut and bangs his elbow on a tree . That particular video was just rediculous , it's kind of sad that he's just some guy who will do anything for some money . And it's not the first time either , it was the same with that george dillman character .
thmilthon 4 years ago 2
About George Dillman I can say I dont believe in his "not touch KO" and all his "hokus pokus techniques" but I have to say some of his pressure points, nerve attack and cavities strikes work too. All is not black, all is not white in Dillman Method.
Fake or not his techniques, Dillman did not lie about his Masters, Jim Lacy did.
Pauljos79 3 years ago
Jim Lacy doesn't know Bak Fu Pai, even he is honorary green belt in kempo but self promoted himself to black belt in ammonth, thats what we have been told by his kempo teacher. Jim Lacy stole some videos which were not meant for him, and those videos were not instructional videos, and he started to claim to be Bak Fu Pai..but he can not even perform a single Bak Fu Pai form, nor has internal training nor herbal knowledge.
DrHarout 3 years ago
...damn :-(
archtopone 4 years ago
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!
Jim Lacey is the biggest fraud standing right next to Ashida Kim. It's about time someone exposed him for what he is! Bravo Grandmaster Doo Wai, and doa'che... :D
StreetLethalRacing 4 years ago 2
GMDW, I have known of you for many years. I am happy to see you are well. Thank you for clarifying this. I saw Mr lacy on video and felt that he did not seem to have a good foundation. He is the one who looks like a fool now in light of the truth.
Much respect to you sir.
koryuhokan 4 years ago 2
testing
chiman1000 4 years ago
Kungfutigergirl, whoever you are, it is about a person name Jim Lacy, he had and is in the middle of his second or third book, he is trying to claim as my successor but he is a fraud out there cheating people. No taking advantagem there is nothing to take advantage of, this video clip said it all. Jim is not my successor.This had been going on for over 20 yrs. Before the schools were open.
GMDW 4 years ago
Always with you master. Not sure about what this issue is all about, but your studetns stand by you. Sorry to hear people take advantage of your kindness. God bless...
Kungfutigergirl 4 years ago
Jim will never confront me, he will just do it the sly way. He said if the public think I am your successor then I am and there is nothing you can do about it. And that is the reason for this video.Because he is trying to publish a book.
GMDW 4 years ago