@mechphatom....speak English as half the things you say makes no sense or completely unreadable....another thing, there were NO chinese fighters or teams in the early UFC, so stop making up lies lol. Also what does tie zhang quan have to do with the subject.....he does chinese\mongolian wrestling and has a blue belt in BJJ and sanda...he's a MMA fighter not a kung fu master....and he's 18 wins and 3 losses in MMA, what does a couple losses mean anyways all fighters in the UFC have losses it's
We went to the ground i chocked him out in 7-10sec & his partner who weighed about 240lb 1 leg lock,& neck .So i had these matches back to back.to make the situation worse ,iwas sick as hell before the match.I had to do it because these guys thought that they were bigger & weighed more I was going to get man handle.both had over 20 yrs in martial arts. its was a learning lesson that day.I tel other teachers & master that you got to be well rounded to fight,other agree & think they dont
Shifu Shi Ming he can kill a person with 1 punch.Now look at the video(Bruce Lee 1 inch punch by Shifu shi ming)you'l be suprised by what you see.Traditional martial art is good,but you have some good & bad teachers like anything else.My style nothern like Mantis & wing chun is not made for sport like judo,tae know do etc.We cant use what we do in the ring grion shot,eyes,temples etc tearing muscle,this not allowed in UFc.This why you don't see Kf fighter in Ufc.Now traditional look at Machido:)
@chineseeyes2006 ACtually im not a fan of UFC too haha, but durign those days they were quite alot of kung fu fighters in the UFC ring ,but sadly most of them were beaten in no rule UFC fights during the past. SO i have to say ,you cant blame those UFC guys for saying those things coz i think knug fu guys were beaten badly during those times Thx btw for the video link ill take a look. And yea machida is good =),should get more TMA guys in UFC and kung fu too.
@MechPhantom there were kung fu guys in ufc? i'm sure they're not from china hahas! and i personally believe that kung fu don't really exist anymore... its all about wushu and san da now... choi lee fut and other shaolin martial arts hardly exist and ppl who do them aren't even good anymore... i feel that its kinda sad...
@bakachikun yea they were from china kung fu team/sanda that went to very very early UFC and all ofthem lost, so i guess thats why most UFC/MMA guys think kung fu suck cant blame them, and back then theres no rule in UFC fights, u can do anything and most kung fu got destroyed. Also in the 70s Muay thai killed/devastated ALL kung fu styles except choi li fut, thats why bruce lee said "choi li fut is the only KF stlye that went to thailand and fight the thais and won". Even shaolin
@bakachikun kung fu lost =( so yea thats why china responded with the development of sanda in the 80s which , incorporates ALL chinese styles into 1 system to counter MT ,which it did. So for me sanda is the best kung fu style right now, most practical too, love the shuai jiao part no doubt haha which has huge advantage on most martial arts. Yea REAL kung fu hardly exist, actually they dont exist anymore, even real shaolin kung fu doesnt, coz all you see is modern wushu in the tmples
@bakachikun Yea but the only kung fu that really really died out after communist set foot on china is no doubt shaolin kung fu, damn now its mre of a tourist attracito than a temple . And more of a performance art than a fighitng art sadly =(, even in shaolin temples now ALL of the folow the beijing curriculum, which is just wushu forms and no fighting, the only ones who can fight are the sanda team nothing else. My friend went there to train and he was soo dissppointed when he
@bakachikun went there ,nothing but wushu. Also anotehr guy called "brooklynmonk1" my personal good friend in youtube went there to train in the 80-90s and just knew boxing, managed to beat nearly all oft the monks there, except the sanda monks. If he ass MMA they would stand no cahnce coz monks dont train ground fighitng. And thats why he quit the shaolin temple and went to study muay thai/boran which is more effective. But TMA like WC, choi le fut and hung gar some still work
@bakachikun but shoalin barely, theres 1 vid where an ex police man KO a shaolin warrior monk called yi long. Yi long is a very vry good shaolin fighter that never lost 17 fights. But also no matter how good you are you till lose one day right?
Yea i agree on the part about flips which is wushu, REAL kung fu hardly has any flips, if not, NO flips AT ALL. SInce shaolin has sooo much flips etc, its super ineffective no wonder shaolin got beaten vs MT during the 70s.
@MechPhantom Well Shifu shi Ming use Chi gong 9(8 section brocade beginner & intermediate) breathing exercise. Hes advance doing the 18 lohan If he hit you he can make your organs failed by using his chi energy.Many don't know about chi ,but American doctors do but they can't explain how its done.Its like Kia in japanese.Example they use it to break bricks,ice block,boards.It takes years to master(look up the video of Legendary John chang ,show chi energy,fires,electric shocks,etc.You be shocked
@chineseeyes2006 i've been doing chen style tai chi for a good number of years... and i personally believe that chi is control over your nerves and blood flow. it provides you with more power becz with control over ur nerves and blood flow, it provides more oxygen to the area, which allows you to do more damage and have greater endurance. i culd be wrong, ima just trying to figure it out myself hahas
@bakachikun Well your right about what chi do for the body.Chi Gong is a bone,tendon,muscle strengthener.In which over time develop into more powerful strikes.blocks etc.Plus it makes you faster and stronger as well,including improving your ph alkaline blood,nerves,& organs.Once you trained this breathing exercise will develop chi which can be used at any time,even in a real combat.you channel your energy to your whole body.this is what you called iron body methods.Plus you will develop Fa Jing
@bakachikun Fa Jing Is a very short burst of energy that can do real damages to you.At a short range a person who use Fa Jing can make your organs fail & you can die from it.You wont see this on youtube because it can kill you,Some might use a pad,or phone book,you can never use this skill w/o using these things.Look at The video "The best of Extreme Kung fu ever pt1,2.These master do serious damage with 1 strike.i hear people say all the time'It's only for demonstration" not thinking 1 minute
@bakachikun that if it was a strike,it wouldn't be pretty.You have guys that can do 2 finger handstands.So that means if that person would strike with 2 finger,your organs,muscle or even skin would be greatly damaged.In order for other people to understand these things you have to be in some kind of Kung Fu Like Tai chi,wing chun, & other arts as well.It takes years to get to that level.I'm only 5'8 but can hit a man that weighs over 300lbs backward,not push punching either,just a short burst.
@bakachikun So I show my students this so that they could see what hard work & training can achieve.Bruce Lee did the 1 inch punch,even look at the video of"New John Chang" & "The Bruce Lee 1 inch punch by shifu Shi ming".You have so many doubters,but thats there own opinion, because many don't do those arts.So you are right,but train & practice your breathing everyday & trust me you'll see your power grow.
@chineseeyes2006 nice! i totally agree, in order to do well in chi and martial arts in general, you MUST work and train hard. u can't slack, and when you do that ,u will see results... its a very simple idea, but many ppl that train don't have the determination to do it, however ppl that do, will be able to do things ppl can't expect u to do, like u knocking a 300lb guy backwards xD
@MechPhantom Plus remember the lady said "his punch at 1 in would do more damage than a car going 30 miles an hour.So 1 punch would kill you if he used his chi.its really amazing its a bone,tendon,muscle strengthner.
your fighting against more than 1,there no more 1 on 1.You see too many people who do ma think their good because their good at that school.I tell them spar against someone outside your style or system & see what happeneds, many get shooked.They get beat because they can't adapt.Plus its not the technique its the method,many don't understand this in martial arts.Plus you want to be good,effective,the goal is to be efficient.A good fighter don't waste energy it straight to the point.Now for
@chineseeyes2006 yea it depends on the fighter NEVER the art, liek most ppl always argue on shaolin mnoks vs MMA guys and both parties keep saying mma will kill the monk ,or the monk will the hte mma guy , but for me its the person man , a MMA guy CAN kill a shaolin monk or vice versa, after all ppl can say what they want but it ALLL depends on the fighter coz the result MAY end up different, just like ppl thought Fedor would win, but he lost to werdum in the end righT? yea
@chineseeyes2006 I too prefer simple yet effective fighting system rather than shoalin kung fu and stuff coz it doesnt work , with all those flips and inefective sword play and stuff. SO yea if your sifu teaches you effective fighting style i think i would want to learn also , hopefully you could provide the address of your gym/club
@MechPhantom the kung fu u saw with flips and stuff are wushu... its not effective becz its just for looks... real kung fu has hardly any flips, all about landing shots, taking shots, blocking, and etc. everything is now commerialized,... i really dislike the new image of kung fu these days....
@bakachikun yea me too i fucking hate kung fu of today its aoo commercizlized and hardly realistic and effective. See you best pal, you really REALLY know your kung fu super well, im so glad to meet such a smart person like you =). God bless man see u later
@MechPhantom hahas thanks! i've been home trained in real traditional chinese martial arts, but as I came into the martial arts world in canada, i've become really disappointed in many "traditional chinese kung fu clubs" becz they no longer focus on training their bodies and just do forms. I believe you need a well developed strong body to use your movements and to spar, however in order for clubs to make money, they can't train students like in the past, or they lose business.
@bakachikun Yea TMA is getting not very practical man, like you said they dont really train their bodies as much as those MMA guys etc which brings them to a huge advantage in a long fight. I agree that you need strong body and know how to use your stirkes,punches/kicks rather than practicing useless forms all day that worth nothing in combat. After al you wanna get good at fighting? fight you dont practice english if you wanna be good at math rite?yea i dont care what you do
@bakachikun if you want to be good at fighting , fight, thats why bruce lee said, ALL knug fu styles got beaten in thailand, even shaolin kung fu, but the only TMA,kung fu stlye that survived and beat some thais onl is choi li fut, also not to mention lee said that a boxer that practice for 6 yrs etc can beat a TMA guy that has 10yrs+ experience, no wonder ,coz TMA guys love to jsut practice chi, forms all day that worth nothing in a real fight.
@bakachikun I know chi enamble the person to do cool stuf and all but it has nothing to do with fightin at all, just like my friend ( i think i told you before) he went to the shaolin temple and only knew boxing at that time , and beat nearly all the monk students there with just boxing, add MMA and they stand no chance at all, coz all they do is just forms, etc they follow the beijing wushu sylabbus which is just wush and no fighting. Talk to "brooklynmonk1" hes the guy that
@bakachikun to me this. And hes pretty good fighting. Past is past bro, REAL kung fu NEVER exists anymore, like most taiwanese also said, kung fu is more for self developement than a fighitng style, thats why a guy called adrian KO a shaolin monk, coz they arnt trained to fight as those monks fo the past, watch the vid, "adrian grotte KO shaolin warrior monk". Now shaolin is more of a performacne art and the temple seems more of a tourist attraction and circu than a temple sadly.
@bakachikun Alot of ppl going there are very dissappointed due to what they teach there , whcih is nothing else but wushu (useless for fighting and cant fight). No wonder in 2009 thai fighters form thailand want to challenge the shaolin monks, coz they have "tarnished" the name of the budhist temple, sadly they fight under sanda rules, if not those kung fu guys are dead. Funny part is you NEVER see shaolin vs MT, only sanda, coz it wont work just like the 70s where shaolin got its
@bakachikun ass kicked by MT guys, theres 1 article that showed a wushu mater with high Qi/chi control in which he can break rocks with his hands and with his head. Before the fight he gave a demo what he was capable of, hoping he could scare the MT guys etc. And in the actual fight itself, he got knocked out in 1min and 46 seconds, you see? chi doesnt work well in fights man, coz it has nothing to do with fighting at all.
@MechPhantom as other mma fighters train their bodies a lot, traditional martial artist lose out. sanda is a newly developed style that compromises all chinese systems into one, and is very effective, but they're too used to fighting with equipment, so fighting in ufc will be hard for them. i really love kung fu, but we're really losing out... however, i've heard that there's a group in china that wants to change this and go back to real traditional training. see how it goes xD
@bakachikun But i hate to say ,sanda is very good , sometimes called chinese mma , or chinese Muay thai, due to the similar resemblance of the art. Kung fu/shaolin fighting in UFC? i htink i otld u before most china guys from china, kung fu guys were beaten there in no rule UFC in the early days. Not to mention, china's best kung fu fighter now, zhang tie quan lost to a guy in UFC, coz like my firend brooklyn monk said, if u add MMA kung fu guys wont stand any chance brah.
@bakachikun Me too i loe kung fu, but sadly its soo commercialized and only does performances and stuff, qi gong etc. Made me lose in terest coz ,im more worried of saving my face in a fight rather than looking cool and stuff. If u ever go to china, which i did, they all just practice COOl/FANCY/FLASHY stuff which has nothing t odo with combat at all. Damn YOU mao zedonf for killing real kung fu. Same here i heard that rumour to about some ppl want to change to real TMA back but i
@bakachikun doubt the gropu can find real kung fu again. Coz the true/real essence f kung fu s long lost and dead, and finding it is super impossible. Btw there are some real masters ,but only a handful and there anrt in china, most of them are in singapre,msia, taiwan ,but NEVER in china,china only has fake performer monk etc. Theres only 1 REAL shaolin monk that can really fight, he is shi de jian, hes the only monk i thnik that teaches real kung fu in china sadly. The rest are
@bakachikun performanc monks and nothing else. sad man =( that kung fu has changed so mcuh for the worst =(. See you good pal, your the smartest person i ever met thank you . peace
@MechPhantom Hey! My friend there are alot of shaolin temples here in the States.Actually the 1st 1 was here in the late 68 in Orlando Fl Grandmaster Pan Chui he the 33rd Generation in the Wah lum (7 star preying mantis).I was lucky to train with him & his disciple Grandmaster Raymond Fogg,You have emples in New York,Fl,Tex,etc.A lot of monks like Shifu shi ming are opening school all around.So you are closer than you think.:)
@chineseeyes2006 haha thx soo much for the info man, just asking though, is itgood? as n do they teach good practical stuff? i dont want to learn fancy and useless things like in wushu and sholin kung fu these days. I just wanna lear things that works in a fight, simple, realistic things. If they teach it there i wanna learn haha. Btw can shi min fighT? thx =)
@MechPhantom Your welcome! Well yes we do it all stand up,chin na,submission holds,takedown,grappling,wrestling,groundfighting.These been in traditional martial arts for a longtime ago.You see when the UFc came around ,they claim they was the ultimate fighting style.It's not the style or system ,its based on teaching & the fighter.Example I hear a lot of guys who do Bjj or MMA,judo,etc.They talk about how they going to take me to the ground armbars,etc.They don't even know what real combat
@MechPhantom actually they never did ,because I know how to protect my space.Other time I went to the ground & put them in submission hold.I remember 1 guy who weighed about 298lb.i only weighed 167lb
@MechPhantom consist of at all.They fail to realize real combat has no rules anything goes,pluck the eyes,throat,groin,knees,tearing muscle off the bones( style like eagle claw,tiger,mantis incorporate this in fighting) & a good fighter end fight quick not doing this 7 that.There 4 stages of combat,3 distances ,law of the universe time.space,energy(i'll tell you that in your inbo.many fighter don't even know there space or to protect it.too many artist depends on speed,strength,power, but good
@chineseeyes2006 wow soo col the way u expalined it haha, yea true a REAL figh doesnt really take long and dont need to , you have to finish fast or else if hes fitter,stronger than you ,you will lose in the long run. Also a REAL fight is very unpredictable, some techniques like qinna or some move wont work well to different opponenets. ALso tearing flesh this and dat for me seems unrealistic but sounds damn cool haha. SO yea not ALL may work, it depends actually
@MechPhantom timing.I ask my student " a track runner don't run for speed ,he racing to beat time." Plus you can't be 1 dimensional like a guy who does Bjj its main focus is groundfighting.Now if your in a bar or streets,the last place you want to be is on the ground.People friend going to kick punch you & have the advantage your limited.Think about what goes on in a real fight instead of what goes on in a ring it has rules,breaks,judges.In a real fight you don't have that its a different ball
@FreeWillyForMe No its Sanda (Chinese boxing),because kickboxing don't take to the ground or wrestle,San da does the opposite.Look at some videos & see for yourself.:)
damn, I really wonder why many people measure everything with MMA... buying a MMA match isn't something unusual, so MMA fights aren't always the most certain way to test fighters' skills.. just enjoy someone's skills and respect him.. if he deserves : )
Excellent. I worry about his hands being so low on the leg kicks, but he's clearly fatigued from a workout that would kill the rest of us. Thanks for posting this vid, it was great.
hi i have a question when u guys do fight raining do u guys just do the kickboxing form of sanda or do u guys also use traditional shaolin kung fu for fighting like qi xing quan da hong quan da pao quan etc i have always been intrigued with wat traditional shaolin fighting is like but my experiences 2 many ppl just teach the modern kickboxing form of sanda
@SoundwaveSuperior373 Many of the applications of the forms your mentioned look like Sanda when applied in real combat. Practicing modern Sanda allows a person to train the movements found in the old styles in a systematic, safe, and effective way.
@mechphatom....speak English as half the things you say makes no sense or completely unreadable....another thing, there were NO chinese fighters or teams in the early UFC, so stop making up lies lol. Also what does tie zhang quan have to do with the subject.....he does chinese\mongolian wrestling and has a blue belt in BJJ and sanda...he's a MMA fighter not a kung fu master....and he's 18 wins and 3 losses in MMA, what does a couple losses mean anyways all fighters in the UFC have losses it's
VietzRus 4 days ago
We went to the ground i chocked him out in 7-10sec & his partner who weighed about 240lb 1 leg lock,& neck .So i had these matches back to back.to make the situation worse ,iwas sick as hell before the match.I had to do it because these guys thought that they were bigger & weighed more I was going to get man handle.both had over 20 yrs in martial arts. its was a learning lesson that day.I tel other teachers & master that you got to be well rounded to fight,other agree & think they dont
chineseeyes2006 2 weeks ago
Shifu Shi Ming he can kill a person with 1 punch.Now look at the video(Bruce Lee 1 inch punch by Shifu shi ming)you'l be suprised by what you see.Traditional martial art is good,but you have some good & bad teachers like anything else.My style nothern like Mantis & wing chun is not made for sport like judo,tae know do etc.We cant use what we do in the ring grion shot,eyes,temples etc tearing muscle,this not allowed in UFc.This why you don't see Kf fighter in Ufc.Now traditional look at Machido:)
chineseeyes2006 2 weeks ago
@chineseeyes2006 ACtually im not a fan of UFC too haha, but durign those days they were quite alot of kung fu fighters in the UFC ring ,but sadly most of them were beaten in no rule UFC fights during the past. SO i have to say ,you cant blame those UFC guys for saying those things coz i think knug fu guys were beaten badly during those times Thx btw for the video link ill take a look. And yea machida is good =),should get more TMA guys in UFC and kung fu too.
MechPhantom 2 weeks ago
@MechPhantom there were kung fu guys in ufc? i'm sure they're not from china hahas! and i personally believe that kung fu don't really exist anymore... its all about wushu and san da now... choi lee fut and other shaolin martial arts hardly exist and ppl who do them aren't even good anymore... i feel that its kinda sad...
bakachikun 1 week ago
@bakachikun yea they were from china kung fu team/sanda that went to very very early UFC and all ofthem lost, so i guess thats why most UFC/MMA guys think kung fu suck cant blame them, and back then theres no rule in UFC fights, u can do anything and most kung fu got destroyed. Also in the 70s Muay thai killed/devastated ALL kung fu styles except choi li fut, thats why bruce lee said "choi li fut is the only KF stlye that went to thailand and fight the thais and won". Even shaolin
MechPhantom 1 week ago
@bakachikun kung fu lost =( so yea thats why china responded with the development of sanda in the 80s which , incorporates ALL chinese styles into 1 system to counter MT ,which it did. So for me sanda is the best kung fu style right now, most practical too, love the shuai jiao part no doubt haha which has huge advantage on most martial arts. Yea REAL kung fu hardly exist, actually they dont exist anymore, even real shaolin kung fu doesnt, coz all you see is modern wushu in the tmples
MechPhantom 1 week ago
@bakachikun Yea but the only kung fu that really really died out after communist set foot on china is no doubt shaolin kung fu, damn now its mre of a tourist attracito than a temple . And more of a performance art than a fighitng art sadly =(, even in shaolin temples now ALL of the folow the beijing curriculum, which is just wushu forms and no fighting, the only ones who can fight are the sanda team nothing else. My friend went there to train and he was soo dissppointed when he
MechPhantom 1 week ago
@bakachikun went there ,nothing but wushu. Also anotehr guy called "brooklynmonk1" my personal good friend in youtube went there to train in the 80-90s and just knew boxing, managed to beat nearly all oft the monks there, except the sanda monks. If he ass MMA they would stand no cahnce coz monks dont train ground fighitng. And thats why he quit the shaolin temple and went to study muay thai/boran which is more effective. But TMA like WC, choi le fut and hung gar some still work
MechPhantom 1 week ago
@bakachikun but shoalin barely, theres 1 vid where an ex police man KO a shaolin warrior monk called yi long. Yi long is a very vry good shaolin fighter that never lost 17 fights. But also no matter how good you are you till lose one day right?
Yea i agree on the part about flips which is wushu, REAL kung fu hardly has any flips, if not, NO flips AT ALL. SInce shaolin has sooo much flips etc, its super ineffective no wonder shaolin got beaten vs MT during the 70s.
MechPhantom 1 week ago
@chineseeyes2006 hey btw si yan ming guy 1 inch punch? is it strong? it doesntlook storng but cool results lol
MechPhantom 2 weeks ago
@MechPhantom Well Shifu shi Ming use Chi gong 9(8 section brocade beginner & intermediate) breathing exercise. Hes advance doing the 18 lohan If he hit you he can make your organs failed by using his chi energy.Many don't know about chi ,but American doctors do but they can't explain how its done.Its like Kia in japanese.Example they use it to break bricks,ice block,boards.It takes years to master(look up the video of Legendary John chang ,show chi energy,fires,electric shocks,etc.You be shocked
chineseeyes2006 2 weeks ago
@chineseeyes2006 i've been doing chen style tai chi for a good number of years... and i personally believe that chi is control over your nerves and blood flow. it provides you with more power becz with control over ur nerves and blood flow, it provides more oxygen to the area, which allows you to do more damage and have greater endurance. i culd be wrong, ima just trying to figure it out myself hahas
bakachikun 1 week ago
@bakachikun Well your right about what chi do for the body.Chi Gong is a bone,tendon,muscle strengthener.In which over time develop into more powerful strikes.blocks etc.Plus it makes you faster and stronger as well,including improving your ph alkaline blood,nerves,& organs.Once you trained this breathing exercise will develop chi which can be used at any time,even in a real combat.you channel your energy to your whole body.this is what you called iron body methods.Plus you will develop Fa Jing
chineseeyes2006 1 week ago
@bakachikun Fa Jing Is a very short burst of energy that can do real damages to you.At a short range a person who use Fa Jing can make your organs fail & you can die from it.You wont see this on youtube because it can kill you,Some might use a pad,or phone book,you can never use this skill w/o using these things.Look at The video "The best of Extreme Kung fu ever pt1,2.These master do serious damage with 1 strike.i hear people say all the time'It's only for demonstration" not thinking 1 minute
chineseeyes2006 1 week ago
@bakachikun that if it was a strike,it wouldn't be pretty.You have guys that can do 2 finger handstands.So that means if that person would strike with 2 finger,your organs,muscle or even skin would be greatly damaged.In order for other people to understand these things you have to be in some kind of Kung Fu Like Tai chi,wing chun, & other arts as well.It takes years to get to that level.I'm only 5'8 but can hit a man that weighs over 300lbs backward,not push punching either,just a short burst.
chineseeyes2006 1 week ago
@bakachikun So I show my students this so that they could see what hard work & training can achieve.Bruce Lee did the 1 inch punch,even look at the video of"New John Chang" & "The Bruce Lee 1 inch punch by shifu Shi ming".You have so many doubters,but thats there own opinion, because many don't do those arts.So you are right,but train & practice your breathing everyday & trust me you'll see your power grow.
chineseeyes2006 1 week ago
@chineseeyes2006 nice! i totally agree, in order to do well in chi and martial arts in general, you MUST work and train hard. u can't slack, and when you do that ,u will see results... its a very simple idea, but many ppl that train don't have the determination to do it, however ppl that do, will be able to do things ppl can't expect u to do, like u knocking a 300lb guy backwards xD
bakachikun 6 days ago
@MechPhantom Plus remember the lady said "his punch at 1 in would do more damage than a car going 30 miles an hour.So 1 punch would kill you if he used his chi.its really amazing its a bone,tendon,muscle strengthner.
chineseeyes2006 2 weeks ago
@MechPhantom Hey buddy check your inbox
chineseeyes2006 2 weeks ago
@chineseeyes2006 Hey Buddy I write you later today or this week
chineseeyes2006 6 days ago
your fighting against more than 1,there no more 1 on 1.You see too many people who do ma think their good because their good at that school.I tell them spar against someone outside your style or system & see what happeneds, many get shooked.They get beat because they can't adapt.Plus its not the technique its the method,many don't understand this in martial arts.Plus you want to be good,effective,the goal is to be efficient.A good fighter don't waste energy it straight to the point.Now for
chineseeyes2006 2 weeks ago
@chineseeyes2006 yea it depends on the fighter NEVER the art, liek most ppl always argue on shaolin mnoks vs MMA guys and both parties keep saying mma will kill the monk ,or the monk will the hte mma guy , but for me its the person man , a MMA guy CAN kill a shaolin monk or vice versa, after all ppl can say what they want but it ALLL depends on the fighter coz the result MAY end up different, just like ppl thought Fedor would win, but he lost to werdum in the end righT? yea
MechPhantom 2 weeks ago
@chineseeyes2006 I too prefer simple yet effective fighting system rather than shoalin kung fu and stuff coz it doesnt work , with all those flips and inefective sword play and stuff. SO yea if your sifu teaches you effective fighting style i think i would want to learn also , hopefully you could provide the address of your gym/club
MechPhantom 2 weeks ago
@MechPhantom the kung fu u saw with flips and stuff are wushu... its not effective becz its just for looks... real kung fu has hardly any flips, all about landing shots, taking shots, blocking, and etc. everything is now commerialized,... i really dislike the new image of kung fu these days....
bakachikun 1 week ago
@bakachikun yea me too i fucking hate kung fu of today its aoo commercizlized and hardly realistic and effective. See you best pal, you really REALLY know your kung fu super well, im so glad to meet such a smart person like you =). God bless man see u later
MechPhantom 1 week ago
@MechPhantom hahas thanks! i've been home trained in real traditional chinese martial arts, but as I came into the martial arts world in canada, i've become really disappointed in many "traditional chinese kung fu clubs" becz they no longer focus on training their bodies and just do forms. I believe you need a well developed strong body to use your movements and to spar, however in order for clubs to make money, they can't train students like in the past, or they lose business.
bakachikun 6 days ago
@bakachikun Yea TMA is getting not very practical man, like you said they dont really train their bodies as much as those MMA guys etc which brings them to a huge advantage in a long fight. I agree that you need strong body and know how to use your stirkes,punches/kicks rather than practicing useless forms all day that worth nothing in combat. After al you wanna get good at fighting? fight you dont practice english if you wanna be good at math rite?yea i dont care what you do
MechPhantom 6 days ago
@bakachikun if you want to be good at fighting , fight, thats why bruce lee said, ALL knug fu styles got beaten in thailand, even shaolin kung fu, but the only TMA,kung fu stlye that survived and beat some thais onl is choi li fut, also not to mention lee said that a boxer that practice for 6 yrs etc can beat a TMA guy that has 10yrs+ experience, no wonder ,coz TMA guys love to jsut practice chi, forms all day that worth nothing in a real fight.
MechPhantom 6 days ago
@bakachikun I know chi enamble the person to do cool stuf and all but it has nothing to do with fightin at all, just like my friend ( i think i told you before) he went to the shaolin temple and only knew boxing at that time , and beat nearly all the monk students there with just boxing, add MMA and they stand no chance at all, coz all they do is just forms, etc they follow the beijing wushu sylabbus which is just wush and no fighting. Talk to "brooklynmonk1" hes the guy that
MechPhantom 6 days ago
@bakachikun to me this. And hes pretty good fighting. Past is past bro, REAL kung fu NEVER exists anymore, like most taiwanese also said, kung fu is more for self developement than a fighitng style, thats why a guy called adrian KO a shaolin monk, coz they arnt trained to fight as those monks fo the past, watch the vid, "adrian grotte KO shaolin warrior monk". Now shaolin is more of a performacne art and the temple seems more of a tourist attraction and circu than a temple sadly.
MechPhantom 6 days ago
@bakachikun Alot of ppl going there are very dissappointed due to what they teach there , whcih is nothing else but wushu (useless for fighting and cant fight). No wonder in 2009 thai fighters form thailand want to challenge the shaolin monks, coz they have "tarnished" the name of the budhist temple, sadly they fight under sanda rules, if not those kung fu guys are dead. Funny part is you NEVER see shaolin vs MT, only sanda, coz it wont work just like the 70s where shaolin got its
MechPhantom 6 days ago
@bakachikun ass kicked by MT guys, theres 1 article that showed a wushu mater with high Qi/chi control in which he can break rocks with his hands and with his head. Before the fight he gave a demo what he was capable of, hoping he could scare the MT guys etc. And in the actual fight itself, he got knocked out in 1min and 46 seconds, you see? chi doesnt work well in fights man, coz it has nothing to do with fighting at all.
MechPhantom 6 days ago
@MechPhantom as other mma fighters train their bodies a lot, traditional martial artist lose out. sanda is a newly developed style that compromises all chinese systems into one, and is very effective, but they're too used to fighting with equipment, so fighting in ufc will be hard for them. i really love kung fu, but we're really losing out... however, i've heard that there's a group in china that wants to change this and go back to real traditional training. see how it goes xD
bakachikun 6 days ago
@bakachikun But i hate to say ,sanda is very good , sometimes called chinese mma , or chinese Muay thai, due to the similar resemblance of the art. Kung fu/shaolin fighting in UFC? i htink i otld u before most china guys from china, kung fu guys were beaten there in no rule UFC in the early days. Not to mention, china's best kung fu fighter now, zhang tie quan lost to a guy in UFC, coz like my firend brooklyn monk said, if u add MMA kung fu guys wont stand any chance brah.
MechPhantom 6 days ago
@bakachikun Me too i loe kung fu, but sadly its soo commercialized and only does performances and stuff, qi gong etc. Made me lose in terest coz ,im more worried of saving my face in a fight rather than looking cool and stuff. If u ever go to china, which i did, they all just practice COOl/FANCY/FLASHY stuff which has nothing t odo with combat at all. Damn YOU mao zedonf for killing real kung fu. Same here i heard that rumour to about some ppl want to change to real TMA back but i
MechPhantom 6 days ago
@bakachikun doubt the gropu can find real kung fu again. Coz the true/real essence f kung fu s long lost and dead, and finding it is super impossible. Btw there are some real masters ,but only a handful and there anrt in china, most of them are in singapre,msia, taiwan ,but NEVER in china,china only has fake performer monk etc. Theres only 1 REAL shaolin monk that can really fight, he is shi de jian, hes the only monk i thnik that teaches real kung fu in china sadly. The rest are
MechPhantom 6 days ago
@bakachikun performanc monks and nothing else. sad man =( that kung fu has changed so mcuh for the worst =(. See you good pal, your the smartest person i ever met thank you . peace
MechPhantom 6 days ago
Where is Shaolin? strong but.....incorrect title.
andycappuccino 1 month ago
Fucking REAL shaolin monk teaching REAL GONG FU MAN ! ,fuck i wana migrate there to UK just to train with this monk full time literally !!
MechPhantom 1 month ago
@MechPhantom Hey! My friend there are alot of shaolin temples here in the States.Actually the 1st 1 was here in the late 68 in Orlando Fl Grandmaster Pan Chui he the 33rd Generation in the Wah lum (7 star preying mantis).I was lucky to train with him & his disciple Grandmaster Raymond Fogg,You have emples in New York,Fl,Tex,etc.A lot of monks like Shifu shi ming are opening school all around.So you are closer than you think.:)
chineseeyes2006 3 weeks ago
@chineseeyes2006 haha thx soo much for the info man, just asking though, is itgood? as n do they teach good practical stuff? i dont want to learn fancy and useless things like in wushu and sholin kung fu these days. I just wanna lear things that works in a fight, simple, realistic things. If they teach it there i wanna learn haha. Btw can shi min fighT? thx =)
MechPhantom 2 weeks ago
@MechPhantom Your welcome! Well yes we do it all stand up,chin na,submission holds,takedown,grappling,wrestling,groundfighting.These been in traditional martial arts for a longtime ago.You see when the UFc came around ,they claim they was the ultimate fighting style.It's not the style or system ,its based on teaching & the fighter.Example I hear a lot of guys who do Bjj or MMA,judo,etc.They talk about how they going to take me to the ground armbars,etc.They don't even know what real combat
chineseeyes2006 2 weeks ago
@chineseeyes2006 so did they manage to take you down?
MechPhantom 2 weeks ago
@MechPhantom actually they never did ,because I know how to protect my space.Other time I went to the ground & put them in submission hold.I remember 1 guy who weighed about 298lb.i only weighed 167lb
chineseeyes2006 2 weeks ago
@MechPhantom consist of at all.They fail to realize real combat has no rules anything goes,pluck the eyes,throat,groin,knees,tearing muscle off the bones( style like eagle claw,tiger,mantis incorporate this in fighting) & a good fighter end fight quick not doing this 7 that.There 4 stages of combat,3 distances ,law of the universe time.space,energy(i'll tell you that in your inbo.many fighter don't even know there space or to protect it.too many artist depends on speed,strength,power, but good
chineseeyes2006 2 weeks ago
@chineseeyes2006 wow soo col the way u expalined it haha, yea true a REAL figh doesnt really take long and dont need to , you have to finish fast or else if hes fitter,stronger than you ,you will lose in the long run. Also a REAL fight is very unpredictable, some techniques like qinna or some move wont work well to different opponenets. ALso tearing flesh this and dat for me seems unrealistic but sounds damn cool haha. SO yea not ALL may work, it depends actually
MechPhantom 2 weeks ago
@MechPhantom timing.I ask my student " a track runner don't run for speed ,he racing to beat time." Plus you can't be 1 dimensional like a guy who does Bjj its main focus is groundfighting.Now if your in a bar or streets,the last place you want to be is on the ground.People friend going to kick punch you & have the advantage your limited.Think about what goes on in a real fight instead of what goes on in a ring it has rules,breaks,judges.In a real fight you don't have that its a different ball
chineseeyes2006 2 weeks ago
This is kick boxing?
FreeWillyForMe 1 month ago
@FreeWillyForMe No its Sanda (Chinese boxing),because kickboxing don't take to the ground or wrestle,San da does the opposite.Look at some videos & see for yourself.:)
chineseeyes2006 3 weeks ago
0:32 - 0:35
Voltric100 1 month ago
lol retard this aint fight trainig
fag this is just pad trainig
peace
TheSUBGAMER 2 months ago
@TheSUBGAMER Can you please train your spelling!? pls goo
xxxrdj 1 month ago
@xxxrdj chill fag -)
peace
TheSUBGAMER 1 month ago
@TheSUBGAMER stay at home pls..
xxxrdj 1 month ago
@xxxrdj fagy u mad? -)
peace
TheSUBGAMER 1 month ago
@TheSUBGAMER why?.. for what?
xxxrdj 1 month ago
@xxxrdj fag u still mad? -) lol rofl
TheSUBGAMER 1 month ago
@TheSUBGAMER assjacker..
xxxrdj 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
damn, I really wonder why many people measure everything with MMA... buying a MMA match isn't something unusual, so MMA fights aren't always the most certain way to test fighters' skills.. just enjoy someone's skills and respect him.. if he deserves : )
piercthingg 2 months ago
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piercthingg 2 months ago
Excellent. I worry about his hands being so low on the leg kicks, but he's clearly fatigued from a workout that would kill the rest of us. Thanks for posting this vid, it was great.
toddymo 2 months ago
the real power is not for show remember that.
pingpang11 3 months ago
@pingpang11 just power ? no skill ?
kayzkzkzkzk 2 months ago
Only one wimp watched this video
wizardofmadness 3 months ago
A Yan Lei Good Time!! Looks fun 谢谢
oneminuteworkout 3 months ago
Boxin+ Sport jiujitsu and u are better than enyone else, shaolin kung fu is very out
pupgum 3 months ago
man Elijah made shoalin look MOIST!! fuckin got Murked in the MMA fight haha!
get the monks an yan lei in MMA!
sophisticatedplayboy 4 months ago
@sophisticatedplayboy I need to see that?. Is it posted here on the Tube?
oneminuteworkout 3 months ago
@oneminuteworkout
yeah man type in elijah vs lama
haha first round knockout! hahaha
sophisticatedplayboy 3 months ago
Awsome
esshung 6 months ago
Maaan thats called RREEEAALL training! When u think its over, it just keep going like the damn energizer bunny!!!
7kilgore7 6 months ago
BEST shaolin master i ever seen no doubt , just freaking amazing , such a beast, nothing but respect to this shaolin REAL master
MechPhantom 9 months ago
that was awesome!!!!!! upload more training videos like this please!
i'm inspired to train harder!
haddukken 11 months ago
hi i have a question when u guys do fight raining do u guys just do the kickboxing form of sanda or do u guys also use traditional shaolin kung fu for fighting like qi xing quan da hong quan da pao quan etc i have always been intrigued with wat traditional shaolin fighting is like but my experiences 2 many ppl just teach the modern kickboxing form of sanda
SoundwaveSuperior373 1 year ago
@SoundwaveSuperior373 Many of the applications of the forms your mentioned look like Sanda when applied in real combat. Practicing modern Sanda allows a person to train the movements found in the old styles in a systematic, safe, and effective way.
jessepasley 7 months ago
@jessepasley You're right.
MartialArtsCN 5 months ago
Tough
Viktuh333 1 year ago
Awesome!
SuperTutorialKing 1 year ago