everything change with the time, but for one thing that change for something better, Legions would fall to something that suck ... sadly the warcraft series games as followed the dark path.
Warcraft 3 was great, and WoW is fine. You're just all stuck in the past and afraid of change. Orcs being good guys are perfectly fine, and much better than mindless killing machines.
@Lokyate Orcs being good guys was one of the stupidest things blizzard ever did. It directly contradicted their entire backstory, and basically changed them entirely. In general, I don't enjoy warcraft 3 and WoW for the simple fact it portrayed the alliance and horde as so powerless(and still does) against thousands of different threats, and because I don't think the new soundtrack fits the horde as well as their old one did.
Warcraft 3 gave the story alot of depth and additions that fitted well to the series WoW just destroyed everything in the later expansions. There is no need to exagerate BloodskullMannoroth and unerating an excellent game wc3 was!
@BloodskullMannoroth The real amusing thing with all the Warcraft 3 hate is that the orc redemption was planned from the get go. Warcraft Adventures? That became the novel Lord of the Clans, which was released before Warcraft 3, and set the orcs along the road to redemption. Without 3, Warcraft as a whole is just a Warhammer knockoff with some slightly different lore.
Warcraft I was the get go, not Warcraft Adventures. And it's hard to hate on a game that wasn't even made so naturally people look to Warcraft III. And it's true Warcraft was a Warhammer knockoff, but I liked the setting more than modern Warcraft and Warhammer regardless.
My thoughts exactly. I really didn't like the 'changes' they made to the Orcs, to turn them from the evil Orcs into the misunderstood Orcs. I am Talking about Warcraft 3.
@frustratedgamerguy Glory? They were being forced to fight as the mongrels of the Burning Legion. It was the Legion that made the orcs evil in rhe first place. Thrall simply instated their old ways.
@NeoDragonCount If you read the Warcraft 2 manual you'll find the Orcs had already slaughtered the Draenei before they got in contact with any Demons. The whole burning legion thing was made up later.
Am I the only old-school fan who also likes Warcraft 3? Honestly, the reason I hated WoW was because it messed up a bunch of things in W3 and created a bunch of other silly plot twists that made no sense whatsoever. Still love the first two games, though, even for their ridiculously cliche and now-retconned stories, because while they were retconned, at least W3 managed to make something good, unlike its successor. xP
@panameadeplm It had no soul, it contradicted the original story on so many levels, created Night Elves obviously to reign in on the whole naked female elf warriors bullshite, it created some retarded back story to make Orcs out to be good guys.
Warcraft III was soulless and World of Warcraft today with its power ranger Paladins and swords longer than the people wielding them is its soulless spawn.
@panameadeplm First of all: what does "here's to you" even mean? Second of all: I've mentioned 3 games in total, which two of these games are you referring to? Third of all: By what evidence do you claim I've never played them? Fourth of all: I have in fact played every Warcraft game aforementioned, and have also played Warcraft I, all of them extensively.
@BloodskullMannoroth I agree that it is diferrent, but the fact that Orcs are good guys. I fully support, and always have. Cause(warcraft orcs atleast) have never been bad in general. Just, fooled.
warcraft 1, orc mission; one of the orcs clanswoman (cant recall the name atm) joined a band of ogres; was hunted down and murdered for it.
i do believe the orcs were just a bunch of savages; nothing quite shamanistic about them; and hardly anything truely demonic coursing trough their veins making them do stuff...
that said i just take WoW as a whole different universe...
@BloodskullMannoroth The orcs were bad guys in War I and II? And the humans the good guys? I think you mix things up, the orcs are the good ones, cause EVIL IS GOOD and everything besides evil is wishy-washy and wishy-washy is bad.
Or you can put it this way:
Evil is badass and badass is good.
Good on the other hand is not badass but wishy-washy and therefor only bad.
So the orcs are the good guys and the humans the bad guys
@BloodskullMannoroth hey come on when you don't count the night elves WCIII had a very solid story. and not the empty "orcs built base in point X now go destory it"
@BloodskullMannoroth You have to admit, it was still a good end to the RTS, but deserves an RTS sequel... Actually, wtf am I talking about? THEy'RE ALL KINDA GOOD INTHEIR OWN WAYS!!!!!
@BloodskullMannoroth Not as much soulless as much as it had its own soul it was infact a completely different game in my opinion. War2 ROCKS! :P 4evar will
@BloodskullMannoroth So War Craft 3 had no soul because they introduced snobby tree hugging elves and because they decided to take Orcs off their villainous pedestal and gave them some depth?
@BloodskullMannoroth - All I see in your posts is "Its Popular Now It Sucks waah". It's not up to you to decide wether or not a game "has soul". The people who make these games put a lot of effort into expanding a very generic Fantasy story (Warcraft I) into something unique that stands out among the tripe (Starting with WCII and coursing through the series since).
Honestly your little tirade seems a bit like a 14 year old girl calling herself "Goth" and denouncing everyone else as a "Poser".
You think I don't like it because it's popular? Where the hell did you get that impression from? You're making unfounded and absurd assumptions about someone over the internet. The World of Warcraft lore is ridiculous. Just taking one thing for example: the Draenei. First the Draenei are said to all be dead, then some are alive but they're deformed... THEN there are a BUNCH of them that are still in their natural form... on a spaceship... that crash lands and joins the Alliance. It's soulless.
Blizzard will twist or retcon any lore so long as it makes them more money. High Elves (Blood Elves now, add in a "scary" title to Elf and suddenly they're evil) joining the Horde for example, an obvious attempt to balance player numbers between the two factions, creating a better MMORPG in their eyes. And I find it funny you think the retconned Warcraft lore stands out, it's about as cliché as possible.
@MrAnopenmind Don't be silly. Where did I say the quality of the game is higher or lower because of the sound track? Did you read that on your monitor or on your mind?
@Yorsefener I agree W3 was well made, but I believe WC3's music was good in its own rights. Objectively speaking, it's frankly better than this 16 bit sound.
yes but in the wc2 game in gameplay this is the final orc soundtrack before it goes back to Orc 1 and its is called Orc 5 on the Warcraft CD.
The other 2 orc sound tracks (called Orc 6 and Orc 7 in wc2 but called Orc 5 and Orc 6 on here) are only the Victory/Defeat soundtracks and not Gameplay soundtracks like this one.
everything change with the time, but for one thing that change for something better, Legions would fall to something that suck ... sadly the warcraft series games as followed the dark path.
0r4g3 1 month ago
Warcraft 3 was great, and WoW is fine. You're just all stuck in the past and afraid of change. Orcs being good guys are perfectly fine, and much better than mindless killing machines.
Lokyate 1 month ago
@Lokyate Orcs being good guys was one of the stupidest things blizzard ever did. It directly contradicted their entire backstory, and basically changed them entirely. In general, I don't enjoy warcraft 3 and WoW for the simple fact it portrayed the alliance and horde as so powerless(and still does) against thousands of different threats, and because I don't think the new soundtrack fits the horde as well as their old one did.
We only hate change when it sucks the balls.
Starcraftwoo 1 month ago 3
Better than runescape x100000 and yes, it's over 9000!!!
IceBaine 7 months ago
Warcraft 3 gave the story alot of depth and additions that fitted well to the series WoW just destroyed everything in the later expansions. There is no need to exagerate BloodskullMannoroth and unerating an excellent game wc3 was!
Torbogrosman1 9 months ago
@Torbogrosman1 I'm not saying it wasn't a good game, I'm saying it ruined the lore, setting and feeling of the series.
BloodskullMannoroth 7 months ago
@BloodskullMannoroth The real amusing thing with all the Warcraft 3 hate is that the orc redemption was planned from the get go. Warcraft Adventures? That became the novel Lord of the Clans, which was released before Warcraft 3, and set the orcs along the road to redemption. Without 3, Warcraft as a whole is just a Warhammer knockoff with some slightly different lore.
NoritadaEgami 7 months ago
Warcraft I was the get go, not Warcraft Adventures. And it's hard to hate on a game that wasn't even made so naturally people look to Warcraft III. And it's true Warcraft was a Warhammer knockoff, but I liked the setting more than modern Warcraft and Warhammer regardless.
BloodskullMannoroth 7 months ago
Warcraft 3 universe wasnt bad, just gameplay and some units destroyed everything
(small trolls, shitty/strange mages, heroes etc)
MajkaSrajka 11 months ago 3
oh no, don't make me install this game, again...
04johaoxel 1 year ago
Blackrock clan will always be the true horde.
frustratedgamerguy 1 year ago 4
My thoughts exactly. I really didn't like the 'changes' they made to the Orcs, to turn them from the evil Orcs into the misunderstood Orcs. I am Talking about Warcraft 3.
nIxNuZ 1 year ago
@nIxNuZ
though im not playing WoW anymore, I really wish Garrosh will turn New horde into Former glory it was
frustratedgamerguy 1 year ago
@frustratedgamerguy Glory? They were being forced to fight as the mongrels of the Burning Legion. It was the Legion that made the orcs evil in rhe first place. Thrall simply instated their old ways.
NeoDragonCount 1 year ago
@NeoDragonCount If you read the Warcraft 2 manual you'll find the Orcs had already slaughtered the Draenei before they got in contact with any Demons. The whole burning legion thing was made up later.
BloodskullMannoroth 1 year ago 5
yep. Old games were far more Pr0 than these tooday.
They were made with heart and soul for gamers, not for a cause to Sell u'r shit the MOST and be a greedy economic MOFO!
Whatever u look back at was damn near awesome to make u fall in a COMA!
Blackthorne, Tyrian, Descent, Dune, Warcraft, Tower Assault, Lemmings, Worms, Wolfenstein, Lost, FlashBack, AnotherWorld, Major Striker, Stunts, Lamborghini, California Games, Titus the Fox, Pac Man, BoulderDash, C&C,
One must Fall, Cobra, Desert Strike...
DarkRezo 1 year ago
Am I the only old-school fan who also likes Warcraft 3? Honestly, the reason I hated WoW was because it messed up a bunch of things in W3 and created a bunch of other silly plot twists that made no sense whatsoever. Still love the first two games, though, even for their ridiculously cliche and now-retconned stories, because while they were retconned, at least W3 managed to make something good, unlike its successor. xP
gyppygirl2021 1 year ago
WORLD OF WARCRAFT IS AN IMBARRESSMENT :(
WeAreInLoveToday 1 year ago
@WeAreInLoveToday an embarrassment, even.
rashkavar 1 year ago
@rashkavar no, i prefer it the other way :)
WeAreInLoveToday 1 year ago
This makes me think of Orcish royalty @ 2:00. Always loved this track. Others are good but this one is near epic. Thumb up? *shoulder shrug*
senatorandsith 1 year ago
warcraft 2 is epic. ITS a GAME . its THE game. it LIVES.
BuGGyBoBerl 1 year ago
2nd fav music piece in WC2. <3
Tj0pper 1 year ago
haha lumpy orc music
ShaithMaster 2 years ago
Than you for this
33COOLMAN33 2 years ago
So epic, warcraft II had soul, unlike Warcraft 3 and World of Warcraft.
BloodskullMannoroth 2 years ago 38
Ironic I should say that with "Mannoroth" in my name...
BloodskullMannoroth 2 years ago 2
i love wc2 :D
<3
Sinthoras111 2 years ago 4
Good comment +1
xxxx85 1 year ago
@BloodskullMannoroth warcraft 3 has plenty of soul, stop talking shit
panameadeplm 1 year ago
@panameadeplm It had no soul, it contradicted the original story on so many levels, created Night Elves obviously to reign in on the whole naked female elf warriors bullshite, it created some retarded back story to make Orcs out to be good guys.
Warcraft III was soulless and World of Warcraft today with its power ranger Paladins and swords longer than the people wielding them is its soulless spawn.
BloodskullMannoroth 1 year ago 20
@BloodskullMannoroth here's to you who's never played either of these games
panameadeplm 1 year ago
@panameadeplm First of all: what does "here's to you" even mean? Second of all: I've mentioned 3 games in total, which two of these games are you referring to? Third of all: By what evidence do you claim I've never played them? Fourth of all: I have in fact played every Warcraft game aforementioned, and have also played Warcraft I, all of them extensively.
BloodskullMannoroth 1 year ago 3
@panameadeplm heres to you
eveningninja 1 year ago
@BloodskullMannoroth I agree that it is diferrent, but the fact that Orcs are good guys. I fully support, and always have. Cause(warcraft orcs atleast) have never been bad in general. Just, fooled.
roofstones 1 year ago
Excuuuhuuuse me. just fooled?
warcraft 1, orc mission; one of the orcs clanswoman (cant recall the name atm) joined a band of ogres; was hunted down and murdered for it.
i do believe the orcs were just a bunch of savages; nothing quite shamanistic about them; and hardly anything truely demonic coursing trough their veins making them do stuff...
that said i just take WoW as a whole different universe...
renegadeh 1 year ago
@BloodskullMannoroth
The back story was made from the books and WC 1
you went to Dranor in WC1
but yea WC3 was just a setup for WOW
TheCrankyCow 1 year ago
You go to Draenor in WC2's expansion "Beyond the Dark Portal".
You must be remembering things wrong :O
BloodskullMannoroth 1 year ago
@BloodskullMannoroth
You're a madman.
CarrotAtHeart 1 year ago
@BloodskullMannoroth The orcs were bad guys in War I and II? And the humans the good guys? I think you mix things up, the orcs are the good ones, cause EVIL IS GOOD and everything besides evil is wishy-washy and wishy-washy is bad.
Or you can put it this way:
Evil is badass and badass is good.
Good on the other hand is not badass but wishy-washy and therefor only bad.
So the orcs are the good guys and the humans the bad guys
kotzebrecher 1 year ago 7
@BloodskullMannoroth hey come on when you don't count the night elves WCIII had a very solid story. and not the empty "orcs built base in point X now go destory it"
not to mention multiplayer is still fun as hell
Yorsefener 7 months ago
@BloodskullMannoroth you sir WIN
mathewgivney 6 months ago 2
@BloodskullMannoroth You have to admit, it was still a good end to the RTS, but deserves an RTS sequel... Actually, wtf am I talking about? THEy'RE ALL KINDA GOOD INTHEIR OWN WAYS!!!!!
Xboxzilla 3 months ago
@BloodskullMannoroth Not as much soulless as much as it had its own soul it was infact a completely different game in my opinion. War2 ROCKS! :P 4evar will
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@BloodskullMannoroth So War Craft 3 had no soul because they introduced snobby tree hugging elves and because they decided to take Orcs off their villainous pedestal and gave them some depth?
Antichrist2000 1 month ago
@BloodskullMannoroth - All I see in your posts is "Its Popular Now It Sucks waah". It's not up to you to decide wether or not a game "has soul". The people who make these games put a lot of effort into expanding a very generic Fantasy story (Warcraft I) into something unique that stands out among the tripe (Starting with WCII and coursing through the series since).
Honestly your little tirade seems a bit like a 14 year old girl calling herself "Goth" and denouncing everyone else as a "Poser".
HellbirdIV 1 year ago
You think I don't like it because it's popular? Where the hell did you get that impression from? You're making unfounded and absurd assumptions about someone over the internet. The World of Warcraft lore is ridiculous. Just taking one thing for example: the Draenei. First the Draenei are said to all be dead, then some are alive but they're deformed... THEN there are a BUNCH of them that are still in their natural form... on a spaceship... that crash lands and joins the Alliance. It's soulless.
BloodskullMannoroth 1 year ago
Blizzard will twist or retcon any lore so long as it makes them more money. High Elves (Blood Elves now, add in a "scary" title to Elf and suddenly they're evil) joining the Horde for example, an obvious attempt to balance player numbers between the two factions, creating a better MMORPG in their eyes. And I find it funny you think the retconned Warcraft lore stands out, it's about as cliché as possible.
BloodskullMannoroth 1 year ago
@BloodskullMannoroth WoW and WC3 are soulless games for you, yet you're named after a major WC3 character.
zhshsG7 1 year ago
Named after my resident server actually. And I never said they weren't fun at all, they've just lost something special about them.
BloodskullMannoroth 1 year ago
@BloodskullMannoroth I so so so SOOO agree. And I think this is probably the best track of the game if not in the top 3! :-) WarCraft-On amigo!!
senatorandsith 1 year ago
@senatorandsith only players like you guys would base the quality of a game on its sound track.
MrAnopenmind 1 year ago
@MrAnopenmind Don't be silly. Where did I say the quality of the game is higher or lower because of the sound track? Did you read that on your monitor or on your mind?
#dbs
senatorandsith 1 year ago
@senatorandsith my bad ><
MrAnopenmind 1 year ago
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@BloodskullMannoroth
No clue what you're talking about.
CarrotAtHeart 1 year ago
@BloodskullMannoroth warcraft 3 has got one, wow no, indeed
rashgagaga 1 year ago
@BloodskullMannoroth Gingers don't have a soul !
panpala 10 months ago
@BloodskullMannoroth hey, warcraft 3 was alright
treesapa 7 months ago
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Daco65 6 months ago
@BloodskullMannoroth i beg to differ, warcraft 3 has soul arlight. just because the music is not as good doesn't mean the game has no soul.
Yorsefener 5 months ago 2
@Yorsefener I agree W3 was well made, but I believe WC3's music was good in its own rights. Objectively speaking, it's frankly better than this 16 bit sound.
fmagistel 4 months ago
@BloodskullMannoroth warcraft 3 have soul, mutch more biger than wc2 and wow
TheArmkill 2 weeks ago
The real Orc music of Warcraft had Harpsichord in it like in this track.
Today in WoW the orcs have became major losers with their loser music.
Dklonmy 2 years ago 4
WoW is fail in everything.
dsozso 2 years ago 4
@dsozso Exept abstinence
caffi1 1 year ago
@dsozso DEATH AND DECAY UPON WoW and all its worshipers!!
senatorandsith 1 year ago
Orcs are awesome, I agree on the music though...
SerialVelocityVH 2 years ago
Thank you, sl2pl, for posting this. I have had so much fun listening to these tracks and quoting lines from the game to my roommate.
asa411 2 years ago
this is Orc 5.
Epic.
OneWayTrip1 2 years ago
I keep thinking the 0:42 part was in Starcraft at some point. Maybe I'm crazy.
JagaimoLoco 2 years ago 2
It feels very starcrafty... I think there is a similar bit in the terran theme =))
Arcsylon 2 years ago
Ironically it also sounds very 'final fantasy' too.
genocide98 2 years ago
Hey, your right! It is! :D
SerialVelocityVH 2 years ago
I don't hear the "final fantasy" in it...this is better =D
Serpentariusx 2 years ago
@JagaimoLoco Some Terran music.
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tnarick1 2 years ago
the sixth orc/human battle music is missing
P3ll430N 3 years ago
2:01 Harpsichord = Orc (this is not sarcasm, it's awesome.)
saanichprince 3 years ago
Theres also Orc 6 / 7
MaestroEmbassy 3 years ago
I've got two original WC II with DP if anybody want to buy
XabraXiss 3 years ago
i think this is from the "Beyond the dark portal" ?
haavar90 3 years ago
Yes it is now (just checked) its actually the 5th and final orc soundtrack. It's actually Orc 5.
this is one of the best soundtracks ever
grannyjone 3 years ago
It's not final, there is "Orc 6", can anyone upload it?
apgsoft 3 years ago
yes but in the wc2 game in gameplay this is the final orc soundtrack before it goes back to Orc 1 and its is called Orc 5 on the Warcraft CD.
The other 2 orc sound tracks (called Orc 6 and Orc 7 in wc2 but called Orc 5 and Orc 6 on here) are only the Victory/Defeat soundtracks and not Gameplay soundtracks like this one.
grannyjone 3 years ago
is this off the expansion?
grannyjone 3 years ago
i really want to go dl or buy the game anywhere now lmao i soooo want to play it these days
brainspillerzzz 3 years ago
bittorent.
omgitsclassical 2 years ago
Me too!!! 5/5
Ivorydancer777 3 years ago
Great music!
Could You send me all tracks from the soundtrack on my mail?
Krzyek 4 years ago 2