to be fair i don't any of this will happen but is more of a hope for a brighter future we can only do this if we take action not just sit and watch videos about them, spread the idea etc
a gold standard would also be fine to back each greenback, but then the amount of expansion of utopia would be stifled by the rate at which you could extract the gold resource from the ground. but wouls also instill confidence in the fiat currency... just don't attach the usury to it.
@2237lemon I also thougth about gold, but then this would just lead to the same greedy behaviour of humans. What fresco proposes is a free energy society which could really work out to get realized once people see that we always react instinctively when we are not sure how to pay the bills for the next month etc.. There is basically noo need for fear and greed, since energy supply is artificially kept low or high in price because we are ruled by economic decision leaders, not social ones.
capital and capitalism works.. its just usury gets in the way so that a few who hand out the capital dont have to toil like the rest.. an enormous amount of potential could be put to funding utopian projects if currency not tied to usury were used.... like lincolns greenbacks...
the arcitectures cool but who's going to toil to smelt the ore and to build the robots that will build the underwater craft and and buildings in a cashless society... what prevents one from watching while the other toils... the compensation of money for time at toiling keeps people honest so one does not have to toil more than another unless justly compensated, to be used later for their personal relaxation for their extra ambition that the other chose not to put towards bulding this utopia.
REAL Free energy technology exists!But the Oil companies want these technologies unknown to the masses,Get a REAL working magnet motor at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,The revolution begins!
@Merlin5x5 the power is solar built into the buildings , these are conceptual drawings not infrastructure mecanical designs, if he posted them perhaps no one would really understand them, what are people so afraid of with this projects . Is it taking away from you somehow ... What do you do what positive thing have you contributed other than negative unsubstantiate remarks based on a total lack of understanding of the precepts of the venus project.
@Merlin5x5 please go ahead and show us your designs that will help to alleviate social and environmental problems. please feel free to fill in any gaps you feel fresco has left. or if you are not a designer or technical then please propose your social solutions to todays problems. thanks in advance for contributing positively to this constructive discussion we are all participating in.
Good ol' venus project. I really hope this comes along. Everybody interested in this should most definitely join their city/state's Zeitgeist chapter. The movement needs to reach critical mass if resource based economy is going to become a reality. We can create this future for ourselves, it's just a matter of breaking the chains which bind us.
for the ones that dont realise the world is already perfect, we just have to regulate things. War, money , power, land , energy are tools for sustentable evolution, if all of this was gonne, all pain and necessity gonne we didnt now how to apreciat the opposite, life would become dull and not interresting, by the way people when without necessity dont invent things for fun they just enjoy astetic things.
looks fucking awful - i dont want to live in a world that looks like that....gimme a couple of acres so i can support myself food wise and a cottage or cabin to live simply in.
imho he would rather have the possibility to live in different houses cause nobody really cares anymore for private property cause its all free anyway, having different women and women are not monogamous anymore, it will be fucking paradise! ;) the acres that support him will support thousands of others too cause technology will be unchained from profit thinking people will invent things just for fun and have time to go play soccer or anything else with all friends. utopia? forget it, its real.
@geoffdundee Jacque Fresco is a genius. Hell on Earth would turn into Heaven on Earth. Money is the root of all evil. The Venus Project would free people from bondage to enable you to pursue whatever desires or ventures comes to mind. We would then become a more civilized and more advance world.
im afraid i have to disagree it still looks like a hellish place to live in my eyes - reminds me of tower blocks they built in 50-60's which are now all being pulled down as they have been the most unsuitable form of housing for many reasons."we would become more civilised".....but isnt the west the most civilised already but leave the east trailing behing living like biblical times? best to sort out the wars/money and power control mechanisms first i think.
@geoffdundee "best to sort out the wars/money and power control mechanisms first i think" 100%a agreed - the architecture is imho just to give us some picture literally to let us "picture" that future scenario, where the moneystuff is all sorted out...It helps our immagination
@geoffdundee I like a lot of Jacque's aesthetics; the aircraft I built in Spore reminded me of some of his stuff. I should really get back into using 3d studio max myself; could probably come up with something interesting. Good architecture is not easy, either; I commend him for his grasp of that.
thanks - if anyone wants peterwhitlock to be blocked just tell me, I read his comments and apart from outragious insults for the venus projects connecting it with nazi stuff there is nothing of essence in his claims, even if frescos work was fake and even if he was rich, its the pure idea and the logic behind it in regard of human "nature" which is why this stuff is for real - so all other users write here if you want his comments to be blocked from this video in future. cheers.
@naturecollision I absolutely don't want him blocked. The best thing about youtube is that everyone can have their say on the matter, blocking someone is surely just another method of limited free speech - a very dangerous move for society. No movement gets anywhere if they silence dissenters.
If you gave JF money then call the police and get with the others to get your money back because many of the thing he asked donations for are impossible and the Venus project is a scam to sell swamp lands and fake invantions and fake skills he did not have and steal prophecy from all the scriptures one great promise of a city from God to then call it atheist and Via the name of Lucifer to boot same as in the garden! he repeats history and is expose scaming adam and eve with 1/2 truths
I can solve anything on the planbet to prove I am the real thing and he can;t do anything but ask for money when ..why would anyone ask money for in this age for saving the world to a non money system? WHY??? he exposed himself in so many ways! You have to be blind with thirst of a better world to be fooled by his knock off of what I bring that prophecy said he be here lying to you all and pretend we do not exist or have the city he FEARED! and runs!!!
Stupid junk! Not one of his models work people! his machine would sink into the ground and take TRILLIONS on end to buil because Mr Jacques fresco is a fraud that took not anything into consideration in any model..so the experts told him none can be built and none are practical and all are child level models having no link to science or facts of reality like wind, waves, weather, erosion, people, genral use... tha man thought of nothing but WOW a toy!
@Peterwhitlock I'd like to see some evidence for that, especially considering he's been an architect for 60 years and the whole POINT of his buildings are to be in tune with science, reality and most importantly, the caring capacity of the earth.
What on earth makes you think he is anything close to any kind of architect ? NO! NO NO! he is not! How dare you you give education to people that did not do the effort! How dare you LIE to call him an architect or that he did that for 60 years! How insulting!
he stole it from MASONS and so mostly Manly p' Hall and so extremely Theist stuff that monster then faked being atheist. You have no clue he is going down on Biblical levels. As it is written, it is he asking YOU to kill God.
@Peterwhitlock What makes me think that he's an architect is that he designs buildings. Seems to me like you're very concerned that you can only have your 'title' if you have a degree, would you say you could only be an artist if you got a BA? No you wouldn't, because that's ridiculous. I can't understand your last sentences I'm afraid, please explain?
No! all hius work is FAKE and he say so himself! You were only tricked to think that. all his models are just plastic with stick on's and toys altered to LOOK futuristic beause that is all it is. The PROJECT is the stolen prophecy from God that he would GIVE the city to a man and he would lay great peace on the Earth I AM THAT MAN! I HAVE THE CITY that JF and ZA try to make you find others to mock God and kill his name forever as later they claim no God was involved...NOT! exposed they are!
@Peterwhitlock What the fuck are you talking about? I'm trying my very best to understand what you're saying but it's not happening. I know these buildings aren't actually real, everyone does. They're designs for future buildings in the VP. What's this of God? What exactly have you exposed the Venus Project you doing?
NO NO NO they are not deigns! They are child models! gravity wind wave water pressure currents wild life...You name it and he did not pay attention to it! you don't design without taking such things into account! When you don't like JF did it is called a child model. The concept is wrong the science is all wrong the logic is all wrong and he was told almost as fast as he dared to show it to experts. The rest is all copied from Buck minister's call to a better world and scripture and others!
right after the Larry king crap! The buzz was in the news and they got the most rich builders of America to come on the show 4 or 5 billionaires and they took a trip to his pland nad look all his stuff over then old us right in front of JF "You have to take all this with a grain of salt"
Then for all this time since other experts and others with money have rejected him in a constant flow. Why did you think his junk works on everyone? Only fools think his stuff is GREAT!
Well the reason we take these with a pinch of a salt is not because they're not legitimate ideas, it's because they're only prototypes of what could be. There are many organisations working with JF with already working products. For example, the MagLav train.
They are plasic toys and models made with stickes from floppys and nothing more! Do not dare to claim prototypes because he has no degrees and no experience and never made a prototype in his life! They are child level models only!
They are focused to the rich!
The books are to make money
donations are gone!
grow up!
he has no credential to make any kind of prototype and never have we seen any or part 2 or 3 of any...so do not lie to me to protect a con!
For God's sake there's so much wrong with what you say I'm not sure if it's even worth my typing energy.
1) Yes, they're designs, and have already made several buildings using that stereotype, including his own home. End of.
2) What does it matter if he doesn't have a degree? He has far more insight into his work than most architects.
3) The books are to spread awareness, the Zeitgeist Movement don't accept donations. The Venus Project may but so what? They can do what they like with them.
idiot! them are HIPPY cob houses from the 60's he just copied. They were popular in the 60's and all over the magazines and they been built all over the planet HIM making his own is not invention dummy it is copy!
Architecs rejects him for being unable to face basic reality like gravity, wind. sea currents and is why all his inventions are fails and all his models of the project fail from Geothermal power to floating trains and cities so poorly design they can't be built like all he offers.
You are a liar! I just saw a donation box on the site right at the top first thing!
Jacques fresco just asked money AGAIN to make a movie to explain the what to do after 35 years of asking money for that same movie each time asked, Now he is turning people to the 4000MPH impossible train that can't be built or work in the bottom of the sea or float so a criminal scam investigation is in order is not in action right now.
As I already explained,TVP does accept donations, but TZM does not. And with the donations they can do what they wish with them, if it's to support the lifestyle of Jacque Fresco, then so be it, he deserves it. In the words of Fresco himself, "no-one invents anything", each invention has been a collaborative process and this is no exception. As for the 'impossible train' and the buildings that can't be sustained in nature, I recommend you do some research before such obviously unfounded claims.
is that why they have a donation box on the front page of the site?
Jacques fresco does NOT give credit to they that are the real creators of the project or they that did the research at all because they are theists and still to this day Buckminister fuller's version of the Venus project is active and give give cash rewards and the manly P hall call to make groups to go to this same end are active and so are the scriptures they all got it from. Jacques comes last but claim it his.
There isn't a donation box? You're still thinking of VP. What scriptures? How can you possibly connect TVP to religion? Haha, that's the most absurd thing I've ever heard about the project, you believe in superstition don't you? That would explain a lot.
Idiot! the whole thing comes from scripture and they that studied it is where he copied it then said it was his and then said it was Atheist when one of it is! Not a speck of it! You have to be some kind of real dummy to find this funny...just go look what the prophecy of the whole scripture is FOOL! Why a city from God and why stop merchants and politics for this exact time in ages for?!
as for the impossible train it is YOU that should go see that such thing is impossible and why we don't have them on the sea bottom or floating in the sea today! Impossible is impossible! The design is so flawed that it can't be built ever! Things like gravity and sea curents and wild life and construction side effects are things he never dreamed of in his life. THAT IS THE PROBLEM!
The reason, of course, why the MagLev train isn't implemented is because we live in a society where the best technology isn't considered as important as making the most money etc. The point is, their designs do work, today, things like gravity and sea currents are the first things technicians think about when making something like this.
No you idiot it is because it is impossible to put in the sea or cross it as many mag trains are built under your dumb nose right now. His is impossible because it is not logical or even possible not because no one wants mag trains! also in teh future things slow down not speed up to prove his 1930 future crap is still crap.
just why go faster in a slower world than today? You go sit in the dunce corner and try to figure out how you can defeat gravity and pressure and weather and errosion dunce.
Sure they have them all over the world but none like the one he wants! 4000 MPH and under the sea and all that is impossible and only fools think it is.
@Peterwhitlock What? The point is, our technological know-how is always increasing, we're always amazed by the latest advances in technology, which often need to be seen to be believed. There's no scientific reason why a train couldn't travel 4000 MPH under the sea at our current state of technology.
there is no known way to making to make any such kind of device work!
the sea presssure alone does not even let you get close! the curents would push it and brake it and a host of other clear reasons only fools do not see.
I posted to peter, not to you. I think he is a little bit to obsessed by his god. Well religiously fanatics are that way. Thinking if they god is really god that their god could not defend itself.
and now that my God has defeate you and all like you what have you to say? i hold PERFECTION and so none of you can hold a candle up against me! God won you are just too weak minded to have grasped it yet... but don't worry we have atheist cities for you fools to be fools in in full denial even inside a city from him.
prophecy is passing and like it or not I win and My God wins.. now go cry fool because there is a god and he beat your ass with truth and better than all other put together and this world is being saved by him and not JF fake knock off atheist attempt to beat god again only to be exposed again as snake in the garden lying to the Adam and eve (you)
He runs and wants money all the way to prove what he is as a traitopr to the very cause and cry of centuries of others he pissed on to claim his
before you think anything you were shown was real...NOT! none of it can be built because he did not pay attention to wind, gravity, sea currents, landscapes, animals sea life,,, you know, all them things you need to make real projects and not just WHAT IF books with not one speck of science in any of it.
Laws were made to make sure we never live on the moon and good reasons exist for it like each time you hit the moon it has a equal reaction so you can screw the orbbit
Marsh has about 10,000 years before a moon hits it so it is a waste of time if you don't deal with the moon first
@thisfactorforms zday was a feasco and only 350 people showed up and most of them had questions they could not get answers for AND AGAIN they want to make a movie to entertain you as they repeat the same message we know is almost all lies.
Facts and Statistics: - 1% of the population owns 40% of the world economy. - 1 Billion people die of starvation and preventable diseases per year ( U.N 2009.)
- African nations pay 15 thousand dollars per hour in interest to foreign banks.
I, too, am looking forward to living in a resource-based society!
The transition will be the hardest part. In general, our present society has been conditioned for so long to depend on the monetary system, that a majority of those around look at something like the Venus Project with humor and mistrust.
Nevertheless, it is inevitable that one day we will achieve this! Be persistent and keep spreading the word!
not one single one of his models are viable in reality...NOT ONE! all child junk that if ever built would cost 20 times more than anything we built now and not work!!! His machine would sink into the ground and so would his buildings and... it is not hard to see it is all junk of a playing boy toys...reality is not present in any of them.
I know but, I love the way the buildings look. The buildings we have today are effective but very boring looking. I know this will probably never happen but, there is nothing wrong with dreaming.
But they come from silly thunderbird series and old movies and none of them can be built because none of them can stand on their own so lacking they are in common sense and of couse the city is SS dream of HITLER'S future and has MASTER"S homes and the slaves in the pen concrete apartments like sardines with even a prison trin so they can't escape! You can jut see the SS waiting for one of them to try and jump the 3 story fall just to shoot them as humans are worth nothing and robots replace all
What are you talking about? Hitler's future? How does this look like hitler's future. These are designs that Jacque Fresco made himself. I don't see the Nazi style architecture in any of them. And Wth do you mean by robots replacing everyone?
No! his models yes but as the LUCIFER worshipers of th 1930's and stories of Atlanti that were popular then BIG TIME and yes the plan was to have such cities fo rthe winning SS troups to live in! Sorry but it is about MONEY and Jacque is rich and no a dime has come from him...it goes in and nothing ever comes out for 35 years because he copied and made weak models TO LOOK FUTURISTIC FROM 1960-70 and some 30's 40's and 50's as then concrete pens for slave shown. SS live below in rich man nouses.
Venus project offers only a world war against thiest and hatred of religions and you can almost hear the heil Hitler in the background of the Z day failiure where they were asked simple questions but ran from them like cowards once again and each time for 35 years! Ya sure a more entertaining movie is the answer.
beautiful video, the future is Now we are creating it day by day, hour by hour, moment by moment. The Future belongs to all of us and we will reign in total undeniable freedom.
The end of materialism, greed and corruption is happening at this very moment, but over a period of time. The new system will start phasing in very shortly and the old will collapse faster and faster. Say good by to the old way and say hello to the new.
thx, nice to hear such things .) the venus project is indeed a honestly great thing, first time in my life I have the impression that those guys are really humans, not animals as all profit-fear based humanoid being seems to be ^^
I don't know who said these buildings are sterile, because they look stunningly beautifula and amazing to me! Efficient in utilizing space, materials wood last longer and very modern, sleek and sophisticated appearance in my opinion.
what needs to happen is we the people need to create a channel on tv where we can actually express these things. The Teleision has the power of communicating to people that we, the people who are on the internet learning these things, need to posses. But how can we do this???? give me some ideas people.......pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzz
ever see the movie "Live Free, or Die Hard". do the part where they take over the tv communication for the country, and brainwash(Re-educate) everyone for as long as possible, til they track and kill you like dogs. and your sacrifice will be well worth it, and remembered. Now GO DO IT!!! ive got your back. might need some hackers by the way....
just express it by yourself. Nothing is more powerful than a man´s idea. If masses of people get the idea of the profit and benefit of a fresco-like system, then we just wont tolerate the monetary profit system anymore! So, I think we dont even have to do much, we just have to share the idea of this almost paradise-like system and live it as far as we can.
Tv is starting to loose ground in front of the internet. I still think that this way of promoting things is the best. This things will have a more impact in the next generation and the "utopic" changes seems to happen right now.
Google's support for open source and Open Course Ware(MIT) and itunes Stanford. Check them out and you will find free profesionall education video courses.
broseph70 you don't really need to promote this project. You can promote the ideeas prezented here. And the best marketing is sharing(links, videos, commenting on speciality forums, reading more about.. etc)
Great Video! I feel like I finally found some people who think like me! I grew up watching Trek, and especially in TNG they lived in a society very similar to what Fresco proposes. Where people don't get their self worth from possessions, but realize that it's inherent to them from birth. Pity those with lots of Schtuff, it just shows how little they think of themselves. I'm going to become part of this movement for sure, it's time for society to Evolve.
In the To Serve all My Days episode from Star Trek New Voyages series you can see some Fresco's designs in the Babel's conference.
I'm a trekker as well, and i found too these ideas really close to my personal thinking. Keep the good work and let's work for a new, possitive, hopeful future for humankind.
The future will be of art and design and i'm very impressed myself by Jaque Fresco designs. I'm now helping the movement and getting this to turn into a reality, because it can be. Anything in life is possible anything. You just have to believe and open your heart.
they are just models for the ideas of jacues fresco, but they will come real when a critical mass of people knows his ideas or rock solid, and they are imho.
thanks for watching, unfortunately you can not get this song at this time, you may look for new releases at openpot or myspace (check the links in the sideboard) maybe it will be released on openpot as many of tomylee tracks
I think Jaque Fresco's work is genius...and that he is self-taught, it's staggering all that he has achieved. I am already planning a movement, and i am showing his work to everyone I know.
:D video, shared :)
Play671 1 month ago
to be fair i don't any of this will happen but is more of a hope for a brighter future we can only do this if we take action not just sit and watch videos about them, spread the idea etc
Mandems96 7 months ago
New Zeitgeist Movie is out! Time for a new inspirational Video. The new Movie Z³ is incredibly spot on.
naturecollision 11 months ago
Great msuic.
Juefawn 1 year ago
a gold standard would also be fine to back each greenback, but then the amount of expansion of utopia would be stifled by the rate at which you could extract the gold resource from the ground. but wouls also instill confidence in the fiat currency... just don't attach the usury to it.
2237lemon 1 year ago
@2237lemon I also thougth about gold, but then this would just lead to the same greedy behaviour of humans. What fresco proposes is a free energy society which could really work out to get realized once people see that we always react instinctively when we are not sure how to pay the bills for the next month etc.. There is basically noo need for fear and greed, since energy supply is artificially kept low or high in price because we are ruled by economic decision leaders, not social ones.
naturecollision 1 year ago
capital and capitalism works.. its just usury gets in the way so that a few who hand out the capital dont have to toil like the rest.. an enormous amount of potential could be put to funding utopian projects if currency not tied to usury were used.... like lincolns greenbacks...
2237lemon 1 year ago
the arcitectures cool but who's going to toil to smelt the ore and to build the robots that will build the underwater craft and and buildings in a cashless society... what prevents one from watching while the other toils... the compensation of money for time at toiling keeps people honest so one does not have to toil more than another unless justly compensated, to be used later for their personal relaxation for their extra ambition that the other chose not to put towards bulding this utopia.
2237lemon 1 year ago
REAL Free energy technology exists!But the Oil companies want these technologies unknown to the masses,Get a REAL working magnet motor at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,The revolution begins!
cloudburstlenepmhq 1 year ago
NORD LEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
eutopiatetheory 1 year ago
süper
gmramazan2500 1 year ago
watch Zeitgeist Addendum
javonne 1 year ago
Great video mate :) What artist and track is this?
dr3ddy 1 year ago
@dr3ddy hi, as the title says its "Tomylee - Future By Design" there links in the sidebar! thanks for watching - nature
naturecollision 1 year ago
@naturecollision Aah, haha.. Should have checked the description before posting :) Thanks for the answer anyways mate and keep up the great work!
dr3ddy 1 year ago
Nice presentation.. Lovely music
ollepellex2k 1 year ago
@ollepellex2k youre welcome
naturecollision 1 year ago
Doesn't anyone notice there are no sewers in this utopia?
No water, power, garbage pickup, laundries, paint shops, maintenance facilities, bars, athletic gyms, mechanics shops, liquor stores, furniture stores, Strip clubs, brothels, ghettos, or even poor neighborhoods?
All the UGLY, but needed, parts of LIFE have been carefully cut out.
Remember the THUNDERBIRDS marionette show?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Again. There are sewers and power and all of that. It is hidden underground so you dont have to look at it.
How does this not make sense?
Anubis7169 1 year ago
@Anubis7169
Where is the power plant?
Where is the access points to the underground?
Beneath your Middle class urban neightborhood is a HUGE infrastructure,
and the only reason you or Jaque Fresco don't mention it, is because you
are too stupid to know about it, or to visit it.
By the way, what created that VP underground, the non-existent tunnelers,
building yards, and concrete plants?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 the power is solar built into the buildings , these are conceptual drawings not infrastructure mecanical designs, if he posted them perhaps no one would really understand them, what are people so afraid of with this projects . Is it taking away from you somehow ... What do you do what positive thing have you contributed other than negative unsubstantiate remarks based on a total lack of understanding of the precepts of the venus project.
bscfrnd 1 year ago
@bscfrnd
The power is NOT built into the buildings.
He simply OMITS power, light, heat, water and
waste from his buildings. Hey, if you want to call
this conceptual, go ahead, but don't call it a
plan for the future. It's a cartoon.
Maybe that's why FRESCO lives in a Dome of
someone else's design and manufacturing.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 please go ahead and show us your designs that will help to alleviate social and environmental problems. please feel free to fill in any gaps you feel fresco has left. or if you are not a designer or technical then please propose your social solutions to todays problems. thanks in advance for contributing positively to this constructive discussion we are all participating in.
getclogged 10 months ago
Good ol' venus project. I really hope this comes along. Everybody interested in this should most definitely join their city/state's Zeitgeist chapter. The movement needs to reach critical mass if resource based economy is going to become a reality. We can create this future for ourselves, it's just a matter of breaking the chains which bind us.
Xeletoph 1 year ago
for the ones that dont realise the world is already perfect, we just have to regulate things. War, money , power, land , energy are tools for sustentable evolution, if all of this was gonne, all pain and necessity gonne we didnt now how to apreciat the opposite, life would become dull and not interresting, by the way people when without necessity dont invent things for fun they just enjoy astetic things.
lcabosa 1 year ago
looks fucking awful - i dont want to live in a world that looks like that....gimme a couple of acres so i can support myself food wise and a cottage or cabin to live simply in.
geoffdundee 1 year ago
@geoffdundee
If the world had changed over to a Venus Project society; you'd have more ability to do JUST that, than in any other time in history.
Anubis7169 1 year ago
@geoffdundee lol theres not enough
land available for everyone to do that =P
indeed we are in the shit
thisfactorforms 1 year ago
imho he would rather have the possibility to live in different houses cause nobody really cares anymore for private property cause its all free anyway, having different women and women are not monogamous anymore, it will be fucking paradise! ;) the acres that support him will support thousands of others too cause technology will be unchained from profit thinking people will invent things just for fun and have time to go play soccer or anything else with all friends. utopia? forget it, its real.
naturecollision 1 year ago
@geoffdundee Jacque Fresco is a genius. Hell on Earth would turn into Heaven on Earth. Money is the root of all evil. The Venus Project would free people from bondage to enable you to pursue whatever desires or ventures comes to mind. We would then become a more civilized and more advance world.
creamone 1 year ago 2
im afraid i have to disagree it still looks like a hellish place to live in my eyes - reminds me of tower blocks they built in 50-60's which are now all being pulled down as they have been the most unsuitable form of housing for many reasons."we would become more civilised".....but isnt the west the most civilised already but leave the east trailing behing living like biblical times? best to sort out the wars/money and power control mechanisms first i think.
geoffdundee 1 year ago
@geoffdundee "best to sort out the wars/money and power control mechanisms first i think" 100%a agreed - the architecture is imho just to give us some picture literally to let us "picture" that future scenario, where the moneystuff is all sorted out...It helps our immagination
naturecollision 1 year ago 5
@geoffdundee I like a lot of Jacque's aesthetics; the aircraft I built in Spore reminded me of some of his stuff. I should really get back into using 3d studio max myself; could probably come up with something interesting. Good architecture is not easy, either; I commend him for his grasp of that.
petrus4 1 year ago
@Peterwitlock
You sir, are officially - and I'm not kidding here - the single stupidest human being i have ever had the terror of meeting
Anubis7169 1 year ago
@Anubis7169
AGREE!
katics 1 year ago
@Anubis7169 agreed
thisfactorforms 1 year ago
Smooth tune =)
tunnis7us 1 year ago
it looks like were trying to be the aliens we used to dream of finding.
bucketheadj 1 year ago
Man i enjoyed the music more than the buildings,, does anyone know the name of this song,,, pls reply bk... l8r
SouthLondon99 1 year ago
name is "tomylee - future by design" unreleased
naturecollision 1 year ago
Love the song (and the images of course) :D
cesarilloquetepillo 1 year ago
good work, well done!
meesterJos 1 year ago
awesome music
georgemc25 1 year ago
thanks - if anyone wants peterwhitlock to be blocked just tell me, I read his comments and apart from outragious insults for the venus projects connecting it with nazi stuff there is nothing of essence in his claims, even if frescos work was fake and even if he was rich, its the pure idea and the logic behind it in regard of human "nature" which is why this stuff is for real - so all other users write here if you want his comments to be blocked from this video in future. cheers.
naturecollision 1 year ago
@naturecollision I absolutely don't want him blocked. The best thing about youtube is that everyone can have their say on the matter, blocking someone is surely just another method of limited free speech - a very dangerous move for society. No movement gets anywhere if they silence dissenters.
georgemc25 1 year ago
jep no problem
naturecollision 1 year ago
If you gave JF money then call the police and get with the others to get your money back because many of the thing he asked donations for are impossible and the Venus project is a scam to sell swamp lands and fake invantions and fake skills he did not have and steal prophecy from all the scriptures one great promise of a city from God to then call it atheist and Via the name of Lucifer to boot same as in the garden! he repeats history and is expose scaming adam and eve with 1/2 truths
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock
Do you have anything that you say backed up? Post some links or actually logical reasons why what you say is true. I want your basis.
Wodahs35 1 year ago
I am on You tube and add stuff each day
I can solve anything on the planbet to prove I am the real thing and he can;t do anything but ask for money when ..why would anyone ask money for in this age for saving the world to a non money system? WHY??? he exposed himself in so many ways! You have to be blind with thirst of a better world to be fooled by his knock off of what I bring that prophecy said he be here lying to you all and pretend we do not exist or have the city he FEARED! and runs!!!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock stop arguing!
You can barely spell! It's painful to read!
and Good Sir, you have been conditioned-
rather thoroughly.
thisfactorforms 1 year ago
@thisfactorforms
Yup. He's literally the dumbest human being known to mankind.
He says that Jacque Fresco's designed for an apartment building, "won't work, because there is no support structures"
like.... What? This guy is a moron
Anubis7169 1 year ago
Stupid junk! Not one of his models work people! his machine would sink into the ground and take TRILLIONS on end to buil because Mr Jacques fresco is a fraud that took not anything into consideration in any model..so the experts told him none can be built and none are practical and all are child level models having no link to science or facts of reality like wind, waves, weather, erosion, people, genral use... tha man thought of nothing but WOW a toy!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock I'd like to see some evidence for that, especially considering he's been an architect for 60 years and the whole POINT of his buildings are to be in tune with science, reality and most importantly, the caring capacity of the earth.
georgemc25 1 year ago
What on earth makes you think he is anything close to any kind of architect ? NO! NO NO! he is not! How dare you you give education to people that did not do the effort! How dare you LIE to call him an architect or that he did that for 60 years! How insulting!
he stole it from MASONS and so mostly Manly p' Hall and so extremely Theist stuff that monster then faked being atheist. You have no clue he is going down on Biblical levels. As it is written, it is he asking YOU to kill God.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock What makes me think that he's an architect is that he designs buildings. Seems to me like you're very concerned that you can only have your 'title' if you have a degree, would you say you could only be an artist if you got a BA? No you wouldn't, because that's ridiculous. I can't understand your last sentences I'm afraid, please explain?
georgemc25 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock you are the cancer that is killing common sense
thisfactorforms 1 year ago
No! all hius work is FAKE and he say so himself! You were only tricked to think that. all his models are just plastic with stick on's and toys altered to LOOK futuristic beause that is all it is. The PROJECT is the stolen prophecy from God that he would GIVE the city to a man and he would lay great peace on the Earth I AM THAT MAN! I HAVE THE CITY that JF and ZA try to make you find others to mock God and kill his name forever as later they claim no God was involved...NOT! exposed they are!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock What the fuck are you talking about? I'm trying my very best to understand what you're saying but it's not happening. I know these buildings aren't actually real, everyone does. They're designs for future buildings in the VP. What's this of God? What exactly have you exposed the Venus Project you doing?
georgemc25 1 year ago
NO NO NO they are not deigns! They are child models! gravity wind wave water pressure currents wild life...You name it and he did not pay attention to it! you don't design without taking such things into account! When you don't like JF did it is called a child model. The concept is wrong the science is all wrong the logic is all wrong and he was told almost as fast as he dared to show it to experts. The rest is all copied from Buck minister's call to a better world and scripture and others!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
When did he show them to 'experts'? And what did they say? Stop making such outrageous claims with no backing. It's very frustrating.
georgemc25 1 year ago
right after the Larry king crap! The buzz was in the news and they got the most rich builders of America to come on the show 4 or 5 billionaires and they took a trip to his pland nad look all his stuff over then old us right in front of JF "You have to take all this with a grain of salt"
Then for all this time since other experts and others with money have rejected him in a constant flow. Why did you think his junk works on everyone? Only fools think his stuff is GREAT!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
Well the reason we take these with a pinch of a salt is not because they're not legitimate ideas, it's because they're only prototypes of what could be. There are many organisations working with JF with already working products. For example, the MagLav train.
georgemc25 1 year ago
THEY ARE NOT PROTOTYPES! you plain lie!
They are plasic toys and models made with stickes from floppys and nothing more! Do not dare to claim prototypes because he has no degrees and no experience and never made a prototype in his life! They are child level models only!
They are focused to the rich!
The books are to make money
donations are gone!
grow up!
he has no credential to make any kind of prototype and never have we seen any or part 2 or 3 of any...so do not lie to me to protect a con!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
For God's sake there's so much wrong with what you say I'm not sure if it's even worth my typing energy.
1) Yes, they're designs, and have already made several buildings using that stereotype, including his own home. End of.
2) What does it matter if he doesn't have a degree? He has far more insight into his work than most architects.
3) The books are to spread awareness, the Zeitgeist Movement don't accept donations. The Venus Project may but so what? They can do what they like with them.
georgemc25 1 year ago
idiot! them are HIPPY cob houses from the 60's he just copied. They were popular in the 60's and all over the magazines and they been built all over the planet HIM making his own is not invention dummy it is copy!
Architecs rejects him for being unable to face basic reality like gravity, wind. sea currents and is why all his inventions are fails and all his models of the project fail from Geothermal power to floating trains and cities so poorly design they can't be built like all he offers.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
You are a liar! I just saw a donation box on the site right at the top first thing!
Jacques fresco just asked money AGAIN to make a movie to explain the what to do after 35 years of asking money for that same movie each time asked, Now he is turning people to the 4000MPH impossible train that can't be built or work in the bottom of the sea or float so a criminal scam investigation is in order is not in action right now.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
As I already explained,TVP does accept donations, but TZM does not. And with the donations they can do what they wish with them, if it's to support the lifestyle of Jacque Fresco, then so be it, he deserves it. In the words of Fresco himself, "no-one invents anything", each invention has been a collaborative process and this is no exception. As for the 'impossible train' and the buildings that can't be sustained in nature, I recommend you do some research before such obviously unfounded claims.
georgemc25 1 year ago 2
is that why they have a donation box on the front page of the site?
Jacques fresco does NOT give credit to they that are the real creators of the project or they that did the research at all because they are theists and still to this day Buckminister fuller's version of the Venus project is active and give give cash rewards and the manly P hall call to make groups to go to this same end are active and so are the scriptures they all got it from. Jacques comes last but claim it his.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
There isn't a donation box? You're still thinking of VP. What scriptures? How can you possibly connect TVP to religion? Haha, that's the most absurd thing I've ever heard about the project, you believe in superstition don't you? That would explain a lot.
georgemc25 1 year ago
Idiot! the whole thing comes from scripture and they that studied it is where he copied it then said it was his and then said it was Atheist when one of it is! Not a speck of it! You have to be some kind of real dummy to find this funny...just go look what the prophecy of the whole scripture is FOOL! Why a city from God and why stop merchants and politics for this exact time in ages for?!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
Evidence?
georgemc25 1 year ago
as for the impossible train it is YOU that should go see that such thing is impossible and why we don't have them on the sea bottom or floating in the sea today! Impossible is impossible! The design is so flawed that it can't be built ever! Things like gravity and sea curents and wild life and construction side effects are things he never dreamed of in his life. THAT IS THE PROBLEM!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
The reason, of course, why the MagLev train isn't implemented is because we live in a society where the best technology isn't considered as important as making the most money etc. The point is, their designs do work, today, things like gravity and sea currents are the first things technicians think about when making something like this.
georgemc25 1 year ago
No you idiot it is because it is impossible to put in the sea or cross it as many mag trains are built under your dumb nose right now. His is impossible because it is not logical or even possible not because no one wants mag trains! also in teh future things slow down not speed up to prove his 1930 future crap is still crap.
just why go faster in a slower world than today? You go sit in the dunce corner and try to figure out how you can defeat gravity and pressure and weather and errosion dunce.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
It is possible, and it is happening, in fact they've already started work on them in Japan. FACT.
georgemc25 1 year ago
exactly, it´s possible.
pepakake27 1 year ago
@georgemc25
Sure they have them all over the world but none like the one he wants! 4000 MPH and under the sea and all that is impossible and only fools think it is.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
200 years ago, flying to the moon was considered magic.
think about it
pepakake27 1 year ago
@pepakake27
go tell that to Jules vern and they before him!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock What? The point is, our technological know-how is always increasing, we're always amazed by the latest advances in technology, which often need to be seen to be believed. There's no scientific reason why a train couldn't travel 4000 MPH under the sea at our current state of technology.
georgemc25 1 year ago
@georgemc25
there is no known way to making to make any such kind of device work!
the sea presssure alone does not even let you get close! the curents would push it and brake it and a host of other clear reasons only fools do not see.
NO we never will build any such dumb thing.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
why shouldn´t thattrain work ?
pepakake27 1 year ago
You are a little bit to obsesed by your god.
NathanWubs 1 year ago
which god?!
naturecollision 1 year ago
I posted to peter, not to you. I think he is a little bit to obsessed by his god. Well religiously fanatics are that way. Thinking if they god is really god that their god could not defend itself.
NathanWubs 1 year ago
and now that my God has defeate you and all like you what have you to say? i hold PERFECTION and so none of you can hold a candle up against me! God won you are just too weak minded to have grasped it yet... but don't worry we have atheist cities for you fools to be fools in in full denial even inside a city from him.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
The grand architect of the Universe of course.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
prophecy is passing and like it or not I win and My God wins.. now go cry fool because there is a god and he beat your ass with truth and better than all other put together and this world is being saved by him and not JF fake knock off atheist attempt to beat god again only to be exposed again as snake in the garden lying to the Adam and eve (you)
He runs and wants money all the way to prove what he is as a traitopr to the very cause and cry of centuries of others he pissed on to claim his
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@NathanWubs
1) the sea would crush it
2) the curents would rip it apart
3) the world does not need a 4000 mph train
4) the dangers are super beyond great
5) no one can reach the bottom of the sea to build
6) killing the sea to build is insane
7) destroying coral reefs that are sick in advance in sin
8) the future is slower not faster
Need more?
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock you try design the perfect fucking house then!
thisfactorforms 1 year ago
The Future Is Now
hep2jive 2 years ago 2
great vid i hope are architacture will be like soon
we wil live on the moon the mars then whole galaxy
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 years ago 3
before you think anything you were shown was real...NOT! none of it can be built because he did not pay attention to wind, gravity, sea currents, landscapes, animals sea life,,, you know, all them things you need to make real projects and not just WHAT IF books with not one speck of science in any of it.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@FIGHTFANNERD3
Laws were made to make sure we never live on the moon and good reasons exist for it like each time you hit the moon it has a equal reaction so you can screw the orbbit
Marsh has about 10,000 years before a moon hits it so it is a waste of time if you don't deal with the moon first
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
Peace can only be had when the last Nationalist is hanged by his own flag.
Freedom can only be had when the last Capitalist is strangled by the entails of the last Bureaucrat.
Long live the international workers unity !!!
Death to the fascism, capitalism and racism !!!
workergirls 2 years ago 3
...if only...
sixxdegree 2 years ago 2
bump!!!
the venus project is such a good, good thing but it won't happen. Z-day! march 13 =D get ready people! organize some events! =D
thisfactorforms 2 years ago
@thisfactorforms zday was a feasco and only 350 people showed up and most of them had questions they could not get answers for AND AGAIN they want to make a movie to entertain you as they repeat the same message we know is almost all lies.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Facts and Statistics: - 1% of the population owns 40% of the world economy. - 1 Billion people die of starvation and preventable diseases per year ( U.N 2009.)
- African nations pay 15 thousand dollars per hour in interest to foreign banks.
- The dollar lost 85% of its value since 1913.
Wake up already people.
HailRasec 2 years ago
@HailRasec
your point being absolutely pointless because the real problem is over population and not money.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
I cant wait till this happens
Nobodymikoo 2 years ago 5
help make it happen.
attend your local Z-day celebrations.
is there are non then organize one, it's fun and your saving humanity! =D
thisfactorforms 2 years ago
Interesting clips...thanks for posting...5*****
unmarcopolo 2 years ago 3
Agreed, LONG LIVE THE VENUS PROJECT and LONG LIVE EARTH <3!
choicesdefineus 2 years ago 4
@choicesdefineus them things are opposites as the venius prohject is about starting a world war against all religions.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
where do i find this song!?
26862 2 years ago 2
I, too, am looking forward to living in a resource-based society!
The transition will be the hardest part. In general, our present society has been conditioned for so long to depend on the monetary system, that a majority of those around look at something like the Venus Project with humor and mistrust.
Nevertheless, it is inevitable that one day we will achieve this! Be persistent and keep spreading the word!
ahoog69 2 years ago 14
@ahoog69 Man, I want this to happen so badly!!
supersmashman9999 1 year ago
@supersmashman9999
not one single one of his models are viable in reality...NOT ONE! all child junk that if ever built would cost 20 times more than anything we built now and not work!!! His machine would sink into the ground and so would his buildings and... it is not hard to see it is all junk of a playing boy toys...reality is not present in any of them.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
I know but, I love the way the buildings look. The buildings we have today are effective but very boring looking. I know this will probably never happen but, there is nothing wrong with dreaming.
supersmashman9999 1 year ago
But they come from silly thunderbird series and old movies and none of them can be built because none of them can stand on their own so lacking they are in common sense and of couse the city is SS dream of HITLER'S future and has MASTER"S homes and the slaves in the pen concrete apartments like sardines with even a prison trin so they can't escape! You can jut see the SS waiting for one of them to try and jump the 3 story fall just to shoot them as humans are worth nothing and robots replace all
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
What are you talking about? Hitler's future? How does this look like hitler's future. These are designs that Jacque Fresco made himself. I don't see the Nazi style architecture in any of them. And Wth do you mean by robots replacing everyone?
supersmashman9999 1 year ago
No! his models yes but as the LUCIFER worshipers of th 1930's and stories of Atlanti that were popular then BIG TIME and yes the plan was to have such cities fo rthe winning SS troups to live in! Sorry but it is about MONEY and Jacque is rich and no a dime has come from him...it goes in and nothing ever comes out for 35 years because he copied and made weak models TO LOOK FUTURISTIC FROM 1960-70 and some 30's 40's and 50's as then concrete pens for slave shown. SS live below in rich man nouses.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@ahoog69
Venus project offers only a world war against thiest and hatred of religions and you can almost hear the heil Hitler in the background of the Z day failiure where they were asked simple questions but ran from them like cowards once again and each time for 35 years! Ya sure a more entertaining movie is the answer.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
clear sound!
naamloos1328 2 years ago 2
I hope this future will come as soon as possible. So that i can let my children into this world.
subcyon 2 years ago 4
why dont you have children and really help them to get to this new level? ^^ that´s what I would do!
naturecollision 2 years ago
hey, thats another good point of view ;)
subcyon 2 years ago 3
beautiful video, the future is Now we are creating it day by day, hour by hour, moment by moment. The Future belongs to all of us and we will reign in total undeniable freedom.
The end of materialism, greed and corruption is happening at this very moment, but over a period of time. The new system will start phasing in very shortly and the old will collapse faster and faster. Say good by to the old way and say hello to the new.
Peace to all and Live with love.
bigsteelguy 2 years ago 2
The music is GREAT (as great as the venus project!)!
Congrats!
inspiring song.
moklas85 2 years ago 3
thx, nice to hear such things .) the venus project is indeed a honestly great thing, first time in my life I have the impression that those guys are really humans, not animals as all profit-fear based humanoid being seems to be ^^
naturecollision 2 years ago
I don't know who said these buildings are sterile, because they look stunningly beautifula and amazing to me! Efficient in utilizing space, materials wood last longer and very modern, sleek and sophisticated appearance in my opinion.
blaziermissy 2 years ago 2
tv-channel? use the internet...spread the word! we are the generation (1-40) to change things. not our system addicted parents...know what i mean? =)
hanspanzer 2 years ago 5
what needs to happen is we the people need to create a channel on tv where we can actually express these things. The Teleision has the power of communicating to people that we, the people who are on the internet learning these things, need to posses. But how can we do this???? give me some ideas people.......pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzz
broseph70 2 years ago 2
ever see the movie "Live Free, or Die Hard". do the part where they take over the tv communication for the country, and brainwash(Re-educate) everyone for as long as possible, til they track and kill you like dogs. and your sacrifice will be well worth it, and remembered. Now GO DO IT!!! ive got your back. might need some hackers by the way....
nuss86 2 years ago
just express it by yourself. Nothing is more powerful than a man´s idea. If masses of people get the idea of the profit and benefit of a fresco-like system, then we just wont tolerate the monetary profit system anymore! So, I think we dont even have to do much, we just have to share the idea of this almost paradise-like system and live it as far as we can.
naturecollision 2 years ago
Tv is starting to loose ground in front of the internet. I still think that this way of promoting things is the best. This things will have a more impact in the next generation and the "utopic" changes seems to happen right now.
Google's support for open source and Open Course Ware(MIT) and itunes Stanford. Check them out and you will find free profesionall education video courses.
StatusDefault 2 years ago
broseph70 you don't really need to promote this project. You can promote the ideeas prezented here. And the best marketing is sharing(links, videos, commenting on speciality forums, reading more about.. etc)
StatusDefault 2 years ago
you tube!
Daltonic3 2 years ago
like the beat
syndrah 2 years ago
Nice one. We need artists and musicians to support the idea. This will accelerate things.
zkfrix 2 years ago 7
Great Video! I feel like I finally found some people who think like me! I grew up watching Trek, and especially in TNG they lived in a society very similar to what Fresco proposes. Where people don't get their self worth from possessions, but realize that it's inherent to them from birth. Pity those with lots of Schtuff, it just shows how little they think of themselves. I'm going to become part of this movement for sure, it's time for society to Evolve.
kingofthebrittains 2 years ago 2
In the To Serve all My Days episode from Star Trek New Voyages series you can see some Fresco's designs in the Babel's conference.
I'm a trekker as well, and i found too these ideas really close to my personal thinking. Keep the good work and let's work for a new, possitive, hopeful future for humankind.
alQurtubiyya 2 years ago
Knowing that there are others outthere feeling what I feel, hoping to see the same world as me, is what keeps me going every day.
rednoob9 2 years ago 6
also watch the new zeitgeist movement presentation:
watch?v=II8N7QPvNhw
naturecollision 2 years ago
The future cant get here soon enoph if you ask me. I believe in the venus project.
LimeInTheCoconut21 3 years ago 5
yeah, just not by force, but as fresco said, he hopes the venus project will be presented as an alternative after a crysis, and he fears if not ;)
naturecollision 3 years ago
dose any of this stuff remind anyone from Dragon Ball Z's capsul corp buildings. Its cool as shit if you ask me.
LimeInTheCoconut21 3 years ago 3
yeah, reminds me of star trek too.
kingofthebrittains 2 years ago
Perfect 5 stars...
P.S. ZDAY- MARCH 15TH 2009!!! Everywhere around the world!!!!
okram1942 3 years ago 4
Wonderful sounds with beautiful sights and great things to look forward to in the future! I love your video!
Muscata284 3 years ago 7
Thats exactly what it will be, beautiful psychedelic ambiental music and all nature mixed with powerful technology, just like music!
milkaXYZ 3 years ago 6
I'm glad there's many more of us dreaming of this! I live every day of my life dreaming of this with every fiber of my body =)
Muscata284 3 years ago 11
Esto es perfecto!
FLIKFLAKNZ 3 years ago 3
The future will be of art and design and i'm very impressed myself by Jaque Fresco designs. I'm now helping the movement and getting this to turn into a reality, because it can be. Anything in life is possible anything. You just have to believe and open your heart.
bigsteelguy 3 years ago 8
just awesome...
marcusnlc 3 years ago 2
@all: add &fmt=18 to the youtube adress, for supreme sound :)
naturecollision 3 years ago
Fresco says that the techonlogy we currently have is adequate. These drawings and designs, are they merely fantastical or are they realistic?
kazoh0lic 3 years ago
they are just models for the ideas of jacues fresco, but they will come real when a critical mass of people knows his ideas or rock solid, and they are imho.
naturecollision 3 years ago
What's the name of the song and where can I get it???? please help.
and the song that was playing at the very beginning of zeitgeist. anybody know??
chocokitty7312 3 years ago
thanks for watching, unfortunately you can not get this song at this time, you may look for new releases at openpot or myspace (check the links in the sideboard) maybe it will be released on openpot as many of tomylee tracks
naturecollision 3 years ago
I think Jaque Fresco's work is genius...and that he is self-taught, it's staggering all that he has achieved. I am already planning a movement, and i am showing his work to everyone I know.
good job with the video.
lanxatdadisco 3 years ago 3
thanks for the nice comment!
naturecollision 3 years ago