Hey where can i find more info about the Rocky Mountain church you mention. Also, by using the phrase 'clear words' and acronym 'MEST' marcotai, with whom you had a dialogue about a year ago, is probably revealing that s/he is a Scientologist, since 'word clearing' is a concept in which they are indoctrinated. To 'clear' a word one must use a regular dictionary to look up the definition, or a Scientology dictionary, which gives words' supposedly superior definitions penned by L. Ron Hubbard.
Hey where can i find more info about the Rocky Mountain church you mention. Also, by using the phrase 'clear words' and acronym 'MEST' marcotai, with whom you had a dialogue about a year ago, is probably revealing that s/he is a Scientologist, since 'word clearing' is a concept in which they are indoctrinated. To 'clear' a word one must use a regular dictionary to look up the definition, or a Scientology dictionary, which gives words' supposedly superior definitions penned by L. Ron Hubbard.
@7dmv There's a great indie documentary film called "Join Us" that has a lot of info about the church and other info about cults in America. Good watch but very disturbing for some. watch?v=On8NKZZvmqQ
The redefinition of words or invention of new words only undestood within a cult are very common techniques used to limit critical thinking.
In the cult of $cientology- non $cientologists are refered to as "wogs" (a demeaning and originally a rascist insult). Anyone who criticises the cult is called a suppressive person. This is the way a cult labels people to artificially separate critical thinkers from cult members.
Cults hate the free flow of information- the internet is their enemy!
You've said this, and provided nothing to back up your claims, just faulty logic.
"Words have no power in themselves, I dont believe in black magic."
Logical fallacy again: guilt by associations. Because black magicians use the "power of words" doesn't make any well established mental science that refers to words erroneous.
I agree a word has no meaning other than what the people around agree to give it and our minds for a concept around that word.The issue is groups like the one you belong to give these words new meanings making them unable to effectively communicate with those outside of the group. That strengthens the groups bond and makes outsiders seem unintelligent much like when tom cruise told matt lauer he was glib. If here were to say well whats glib that would make him seem even more glib.
Sir are you aware you use a plethora of logical fallacies? I suggest you take some time out of your day and learn how to constructively properly debate without out using fallacious thought stopping techniques.
"Do you mean that a 6 months old infant can understand what is written in a newspaper?"
False dichotomy. You assume that in order for any words to be understood you should be fluent enough to read it as well from advanced reading material.
"Mind USE also pictures, emotions and creativity to express itself."
This is true, as I have said earlier. However, the human thought is based on language doesn't mean humans can't think any other way. Again, false dichotomy.
"Do you really think that a born deaf-dumb individual is thinking in words?
And what about an 1 to 24 months old child?"
YES! Just because you can't speak or hear a language doesn't mean yuou can't know it. Also false analogy is a logical fallacy. I'm not talking about special cases involving infants or special needs people. However, your false analogy has backfired. Infants can understand words though they do not speak them. Special needs people have written words sign language and brale. DERP
Words are NOT JUST symbols to define, They are the basis of how the human mind thinks. Might be true if Scientology was a true science that has room for peer review and external replication. Squirreling and conditions of doubt aren't high crimes, they are critical and vital to the scientific method. A very authoritarian church that had little room for dissent and a distaste for the scientific method is what kept us in the dark ages. Take a class on history and linguistics and you'll understand.
Wow, very interesting stuff! My guess is whatever group the little girl was talking about at the end where they call beating the child "love" believes in the whole, "Spare the rod,, spoil the child" saying. You said this was part 1? Can't wait for the rest!
I'm fascinated by this whole area as it starts to explain just how otherwise reasonable people can turn into monsters by the brianwashing tactics used by cults. The Milgram experiment showed that most people are frighteningly easilly influenced by authority figures to inflict pain on others.
This information is vital - knowlwegde is your shield.
Oops- I've just seen my typos- obviously, I mean no offence to anyone called Brian, I meant brainwashing. I quite like my unintentional knowlwedge- it's better than L Con's "knowingness"!
The end were clips from the movie Join Us. If you have the spare 25 bucks or a netflix account, I highly recommend watching it. I provided a link in the description to the movie's website.
Dude you need to finish this off.
NicosMind 7 months ago
You forgot the increasing reliance of the government and media on loaded language too. That's all they ever talk in these days.
But then, when you look at Sun Myung Moon's huge stake in American government and media, it's no surprise. America is a cult within a cult.
Threetails 1 year ago
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Hey where can i find more info about the Rocky Mountain church you mention. Also, by using the phrase 'clear words' and acronym 'MEST' marcotai, with whom you had a dialogue about a year ago, is probably revealing that s/he is a Scientologist, since 'word clearing' is a concept in which they are indoctrinated. To 'clear' a word one must use a regular dictionary to look up the definition, or a Scientology dictionary, which gives words' supposedly superior definitions penned by L. Ron Hubbard.
7dmv 1 year ago
Hey where can i find more info about the Rocky Mountain church you mention. Also, by using the phrase 'clear words' and acronym 'MEST' marcotai, with whom you had a dialogue about a year ago, is probably revealing that s/he is a Scientologist, since 'word clearing' is a concept in which they are indoctrinated. To 'clear' a word one must use a regular dictionary to look up the definition, or a Scientology dictionary, which gives words' supposedly superior definitions penned by L. Ron Hubbard.
7dmv 1 year ago
@7dmv There's a great indie documentary film called "Join Us" that has a lot of info about the church and other info about cults in America. Good watch but very disturbing for some. watch?v=On8NKZZvmqQ
machwon 1 year ago
The redefinition of words or invention of new words only undestood within a cult are very common techniques used to limit critical thinking.
In the cult of $cientology- non $cientologists are refered to as "wogs" (a demeaning and originally a rascist insult). Anyone who criticises the cult is called a suppressive person. This is the way a cult labels people to artificially separate critical thinkers from cult members.
Cults hate the free flow of information- the internet is their enemy!
laserofjustice 2 years ago
what is that footage of the rocky mountain church from?
ranellshubert 2 years ago
Human mind is based on concepts not words!
The highest level of reasoning is complete differentiation of them.
Words are just agreed-upon symbols USED to communicate concepts.
The literalness with which the person believes to think is an index of the amount of aberration (inability to rationalize) in the case.
Words have no power in themselves, I dont believe in black magic.
You should clear words like dichotomy, analogy and logic in a good dictionary
because you are using them wrongly.
marcotai 3 years ago
"Human mind is based on concepts not words!"
You've said this, and provided nothing to back up your claims, just faulty logic.
"Words have no power in themselves, I dont believe in black magic."
Logical fallacy again: guilt by associations. Because black magicians use the "power of words" doesn't make any well established mental science that refers to words erroneous.
machwon 3 years ago
You should clear words like dichotomy, analogy and logic in a good dictionary
because you are using them wrongly.
You're using wrongly wrong. Also; I am not using the words wrong. Google: Logical Fallacies so see context.
machwon 3 years ago
I agree a word has no meaning other than what the people around agree to give it and our minds for a concept around that word.The issue is groups like the one you belong to give these words new meanings making them unable to effectively communicate with those outside of the group. That strengthens the groups bond and makes outsiders seem unintelligent much like when tom cruise told matt lauer he was glib. If here were to say well whats glib that would make him seem even more glib.
krissy4nik 2 years ago
Do you know what is the great difference between
concepts and words?
Anyway, Happy New Year.
marcotai 3 years ago
"What is wrong with you?"
Appeal to ridicule and ad-hominem.
Sir are you aware you use a plethora of logical fallacies? I suggest you take some time out of your day and learn how to constructively properly debate without out using fallacious thought stopping techniques.
machwon 3 years ago
"Infants can understand words though they do not speak them."
Is that a joke? Do you mean that a 6 months old infant can understand what is written in a newspaper?
Everyone know that words are just symbolic pictures or sounds USED by our minds to communication purposes.
It is just a MEST tool to communicate our thoughts. Mind USE also pictures, emotions and creativity to express itself.
This doesn't mean that our mind is made of them too.
What is wrong with you?
marcotai 3 years ago
"Do you mean that a 6 months old infant can understand what is written in a newspaper?"
False dichotomy. You assume that in order for any words to be understood you should be fluent enough to read it as well from advanced reading material.
"Mind USE also pictures, emotions and creativity to express itself."
This is true, as I have said earlier. However, the human thought is based on language doesn't mean humans can't think any other way. Again, false dichotomy.
machwon 3 years ago
Yes, but only when I'm a little bit drunk.
Dear machwon, please answer me about this:
Do you really think that a born deaf-dumb individual is thinking in words?
And what about an 1 to 24 months old child?
Do you really believe that he has not thoughts whatsoever?
Concepts are senior to language, don forget it.
marcotai 3 years ago
"Do you really think that a born deaf-dumb individual is thinking in words?
And what about an 1 to 24 months old child?"
YES! Just because you can't speak or hear a language doesn't mean yuou can't know it. Also false analogy is a logical fallacy. I'm not talking about special cases involving infants or special needs people. However, your false analogy has backfired. Infants can understand words though they do not speak them. Special needs people have written words sign language and brale. DERP
machwon 3 years ago
"Don't you forget it" isn't scaring me into your line of thanking.
If I do forget, then what? You gonna rough me up internet tuff guy?
machwon 3 years ago
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Words are just symbols to define a new observed phenomenon.
That is why SEMANTIC is necessary.
Otherwise we would still living in the middle age era.
Language evolves only because we have to define what is new( never observed or though
before)
Scientology has his own words to describe what
human mind phenomenons are.
No one before Ron Hubbard achieved a full understanding of what actually a human mind is !
marcotai 3 years ago
Words are just symbols to define a new observed phenomenon.
That is why SEMANTIC is necessary.
Otherwise we would still living in the middle age era.
Language evolves only because we have to define what is new( never observed or though
before)
Scientology has his own words to describe what
human mind phenomenons are.
No one before Ron Hubbard achieved a full understanding of what actually a human mind is !
marcotai 3 years ago
Words are NOT JUST symbols to define, They are the basis of how the human mind thinks. Might be true if Scientology was a true science that has room for peer review and external replication. Squirreling and conditions of doubt aren't high crimes, they are critical and vital to the scientific method. A very authoritarian church that had little room for dissent and a distaste for the scientific method is what kept us in the dark ages. Take a class on history and linguistics and you'll understand.
machwon 3 years ago
Words ARE NOT the basis of how the mind thinks.
Human mind thinks on concepts, words are used
by the mind to express concepts.
Thus they are only tools for communication aims.
So, words are just symbols!
marcotai 3 years ago
SO you never think in words?
machwon 3 years ago
Scientology has invented so many new words for their cult, they have their own dictionary.
iamitchey 3 years ago
I only hit them because I love them.
sidcortes 3 years ago
great informative video, cheers
Anonakitty 3 years ago
Interesting video
Redshift21 3 years ago
very good video:D
laladiel 3 years ago
Wow, very interesting stuff! My guess is whatever group the little girl was talking about at the end where they call beating the child "love" believes in the whole, "Spare the rod,, spoil the child" saying. You said this was part 1? Can't wait for the rest!
LeftyBlue 3 years ago
I like it, I think you could have moar examples with explanation in a follow up though
caekisalie 3 years ago
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this.
mollie2810 3 years ago
Excellently done!
5star series and big TY's for posting!
Ogsonofgroo 3 years ago
fascist totalitarian cult full of obfuscated faulty logic, circular reasoning ideologies, that harm people and FAMILIES.
exscikidchris 3 years ago 3
WOW! Really informative. This is the part when people you talk to on the street about scientology start looking at you funny.
LFraudHubbard 3 years ago 4
Scientology completely redefines the meaning of the word "ethics":
"The purpose of Ethics is:
TO REMOVE COUNTER-INTENTIONS FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.
And having accomplished that the purpose becomes
TO REMOVE OTHER-INTENTIONEDNESS FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.
Thus progress can be made by all "
exfalsoquodlibet 3 years ago 6
$cientologists, Can't you see
It all makes perfect sense
Expressed in dollars and cents,
Pounds, shillings and the fence
Can't you see
It all makes perfect sense
FreedomToResearch 3 years ago 5
★★★★★
exscikidchris 3 years ago 3
I'm fascinated by this whole area as it starts to explain just how otherwise reasonable people can turn into monsters by the brianwashing tactics used by cults. The Milgram experiment showed that most people are frighteningly easilly influenced by authority figures to inflict pain on others.
This information is vital - knowlwegde is your shield.
laserofjustice 3 years ago 7
Oops- I've just seen my typos- obviously, I mean no offence to anyone called Brian, I meant brainwashing. I quite like my unintentional knowlwedge- it's better than L Con's "knowingness"!
laserofjustice 3 years ago 3
Wow scary, and the end is beyond sad.
dasboatbabe 3 years ago 4
The end were clips from the movie Join Us. If you have the spare 25 bucks or a netflix account, I highly recommend watching it. I provided a link in the description to the movie's website.
machwon 3 years ago