Fairbairn and Applegate conducting OSS Training at the Unite

[KBro6Paul]

every servicemember needed this back in the Big War. it would've stopped a lot of casualties in hand-to-hand combat situations like in Saving Private Ryan. I'd advocate for every servicemember in the Army,Navy,Marine Corps,Coast Guard & Air Force to get this kinda trainin' in BOOT CAMP.

[1x93cm]

the white jackie chan!

[Hitter84]

3 people would get killed in combat.

[maciverandy]

why are they wearing weird masks?

[Wargoat6]

@maciverandy To conceal their identity in case the film gets stolen by the nazis.

[metalrod23]

@maciverandy Its the Lone Ranger fan club.

[TheOldwhitebelt]

@metalrod23

ASSHOLE!

[metalrod23]

@TheOldwhitebelt Thank you......thank you very much......your beautiful.

[Tenshiyami13]

And old nazis wonder how allied agents took out so many of their bases....get them to watch these vids and they'll see why....good to know we had one of the top fighters ever on our side RIP Mr Fairbairn

[EGRJ]

"The gentle art of murder"

Immediately followed by telling the soldiers to gouge their opponents' eyes out and hit them in the balls.

Ah, British understatement. I love it so..

[zhetya]

in WWII the thing like "Kill or be killed" or "capture or be captured" is your best motto to survive

[hangemhigh2000]

To bad its against the law, breaking it, if possible.

[RogueBrit]

'Here is the secret BATMAN auditions session

[BUFFEDBUILT]

"Bring your knee up into his testicles!" hahaha...the guy loves saying that...

[talon115]

Simple and direct. No mumbo jumbo like the asian systems.

[n1664b00j]

@talon115

William Fairbairn learnt how to fight from these "asian systems".

Takedowns from Jujutsu, and knife fighting from his time in the Shanghai Municipal Police.

[1FuckedUpIndividual]

this is all you need to defend yourself effectively. Fuck MMA and fuck Bruce Lee

[joiless]

Step one: put your hands on him.

Step two: stick your fingers somewhere unpleasant, such an eye socket or windpipe.

Step three: kick him in the dick.

This is the basic summary of what you will learn from this video. None of these techniques are easy to argue with. These are not sporting techniques, or self-defense techniques. The objective to is to quickly and efficiently maim, mutilate and if prudent murder an individual.

[1FuckedUpIndividual]

people claims mma is the shit, they are ignorant

[raytheprinter]

Im just guessing that some of the disarming moves are as a last resort ,,you are going to die if you dont do something ,combat ! Better to have a small chance than stand still while someone pulls the trigger and ends your life! Just a guess.

[DragonnightKKL]

I think I learned something today, thanks for this video, I discovered that CIA aren't greater than OSS.

[rfairbairn92]

I'm related to William Fairbairn! He's my grandpas grandpa! i have the original copy of "get tough" and those pictures inside is him and his wife!

[jum1801]

Pt 3 cont:

Worst case is if he has .45 ACP or >. Even if he's touching u, a reflex shot MUST at least wound u in torso. & w/.45 or > gun, 1-shot to torso is guaranteed to kill or disable u instantly.

The only way this disarming technique works is if the opponent has a knife & no gun, and even then it's not certain. But to harm u he must get close; & if he's close, u r a threat to HIM. Still u cld wind up with him disarmed/down/stabbed, but u w/ 1 lung or 1 kidney.

[joiless]

@jum1801 Your argument boils down to 'there is no point in training to defend yourself because the gun always wins." I don't think you understand *why* commandos and OSS operatives trained in these techniques. This was not a method for self-defense against someone who had the drop on them. "Gutter-fighting" serves one purpose: it is the art of quickly, efficiently and quietly murdering another human being.

[jum1801]

Pt 2 - Can u stick to training in action? Only constant work for YEARS will beat the reflex to lunge, claw, bite in mortal danger.

Even if u are that highly trained & skilled, will it matter? A semi-alert gunman will reflexively pull trigger instant u move. So u wind up w/ a wound in torso & minutes to live at best. Best u can hope for is to disable/kill him AFTER his reflex shot to ur torso. So he MAY die..but u WILL die. ...& that's the BEST u can hope for. (Cont. in Pt 3)

[jum1801]

Combat "systems", even this, seem unrealistic. No doubt there are some helpful tips. But NO unarmed man, even one as expert as Mr. Fairbairn, can consistently & safely disarm/disable/kill even a minimally trained opponent armed with a reliable firearm.

This can result ONLY when the gunman is 1) ambushed, 2) negligent (too close, etc.), or 3) mentally unready to kill (e.g., hesitates). It takes only an instant to squeeze a trigger, especially if the gun is cocked, as in these vids. cont in Pt 2

[KAZUSHIKIMINOUE]

OMG you see how advanced and years ahead of their time they were?!!! Look at the pistol disarm that is being taught today and just now being put into "learn the levels/belts quick" systems like the Marine MCMAP and Army MACP.

[blacksuite1]

WOW. they teach this stuff in krav maga. I guess this kinda stuff have been around for longer than i thought

[TheLoonwolf]

You can use transvestite "tucking" to protect yourself from groin attacks. :) Apparently it's what Sumo wrestlers do.

[noisepuppet]

Hilarious masks, but yes, Applegate could take a guy's head off and punt it downfield with it before you could say OH SHIT.

[photografr7]

I know the names of the two men in the video, but I'd have to kill you after I told you.

[VictorianGentlmn]

I still prefer old-fashioned combatives to today's MMA. I need to spend less time training which gives more time for modern weapons.Remember close contact is for when things have gone totally wrong. It really is a last resort.

[ogukuo72]

@VictorianGentlmn

I agree. :)

There's nothing wrong with MMA or BJJ, or what have you. Each have their strong suit. But for ordinary folks like myself, who won't go into martial arts in a big way, some handy tricks and lots of practice may be much more suitable.

When I tried BJJ, I got myself twisted into knots and can't say I learnt how to take care of myself very well! :) I like Krav maga better. It's much easier for me to pick up the techniques.

[MidnighWolf]

Fairbairn and Applegate, legends of close combat!

[Rusophilo]

The sons of The Lone Ranger!!!

LOL!!

[lucasindustriesinc]

Looks like Kenpo Karate to me? Good ole one step sparring/self defense.

[Primetome]

Exellent!!!!! Just like what they taught us. This is the real deal. Forget all that spinning kicking rubbish. Fairbairn and Sykes ledgens!!!!!!

[1FuckedUpIndividual]

Our Marines don't learn this today, they'd rather learn that ju-jutsu shit which doesn't work, fucking faggots

[cerasi209]

what is wrong with ju-jutsu. does that apply to judo and bjj

[jarlarthas666]

such a good question like other arts (karate,kickboxing,etc...) they are competiteve arts meaning 1 they have rules ,2 they dont cover all situations (knifes , multible targets,guns,stricking,etc..)

,3 they usually require warm up stretching before ingajing a target (unlike real life),4 complicated moves are harder for the animal(mid)brain to remember(its the brain part that works when adrenalin pumps in),5 they are tailored for specific ranges and conditions(dojos , foam grounds, rules )

[cerasi209]

@jarlarthas666

exactly and the instructors bug you for your money at least thats what my sensei did

[paoolyrebecca]

It will work. Period.

[oroge]

this is alot like krav-magga.

[jarlarthas666]

krav maga was tailored after rex appelgates kill or get killed

[ghostonesixnine]

@jarlarthas666 krav was invented at the same time as this method, both systems using a lot of tricks that were much older.

[SallyMyers1991]

This is real unarmed combat with no silliness. Read in a martial arts' book called From Lee to Li that Fairbairn was the inspiration behind James Bond.

[blutobelushi]

fairbairn was one of the GREATEST western masters ever.he started it all.the nazis called his techniques english gangster methods because of his ruthlessness.he was special.rip great one.

[Wargoat6]

@blutobelushi It was the nazi's way of saying "waaaaaah, no fair!"

[blutobelushi]

@Wargoat6 Good job there mate.I understand he was the Grandmaster of Defendu ...then E.A.Sykes and then Rex Applegate.The system is STILL the best ever devised for destroying a evil antagonist.Amazing to think about. RIP to all these men and our great Allied soldiers who died in that awful War.

[Thesocraticbreed]

@blutobelushi Search Hans Tolhoffer... he is not known to many because his works were lost for a long time.. and have only been recently recovered within the past few decades.... but, he was a Holy Roman EMpire combat master... very prudent too... his close combative moves are extremely practical.

[kickthemfucker]

does the chin jab knockout the opponent or kill the opponent?

if it kills the opponent, then it's extremely dangerous to use it against a bully.

[scopeophile]

that's like asking is a car dangerous... it's a REALLY open question there's just so many factors...

Are you going to jab the chin, or follow up by pushing through... will you use the legs also on the up strike for more power?

If you do make them fall back, are you on soft or hard ground?.... see what I mean.

We do drill a similar method in Jujitsu (think that's were they adapted many techniques from) and it's dammed effective, but no no-one has gone home in a wheelchair or body bag

yet.

[jarlarthas666]

a chin jap done correctly has a ratio of 1:2 to kill

[DaToCyLi]

It's impossible to say whether a chin jab will kill. What can be said is that, unarmed, against a standing opponent, it is the most serious thing you can do to them. In that scenario, if something is going to kill them, it would be the chin jab. You would not use it unless your life was in danger.

[billysue2]

of course it wont kill,you wouldnt be able to hit halfas hard as a proboxer gets hit,how many of them have died instantly.What may happen is the get knocked out and then hit the head on the road etc and ie from that,that has happened lots of times butt he strike didnt do it.

[ZZkettu]

if your mind dosent work,you dos not work..thats it.

[chesse23]

My grandpa was in the 1st special service force and trained in the fairbairn method he said he used it many times to save his life and it never failed him once.

[scopeophile]

I can believe ....

as a general rule in close combat, simple is usually the best and most effective.... complex, clever and flashy usually just gets you maimed or dead.

[oroge]

to be honest anybody who was in the millitary and actually fought probably knws what they're talking about.

[scopeophile]

exactly so... TBH, there's far too much of 'secret deadly special super service' techniques being taught via the wonders of the internet & DVDs... by people whose only experience in combat is having a bit of mouth boxing whilst walking past the TA recruitment place on the way to the pub.

[blutobelushi]

my grandfather affirmed the same thing.he was a 6th battalion ranger.

[trubbel19]

krav maga in the early days :D

[colinkadink]

Primarily jj without groundwork.You cant be rolling on the ground in a multi opponent scenario.This is the real deal.

[chushinryoku]

tru dat

[paoolyrebecca]

My only correction to the MidnighWolf comment "theres no doubt in my mind that Fairbairn's system was for real" is that it STILL IS for real. My only regret is that I learned about it so late in life. I teach it to my (grand)children because despite the so-called "zero-tolerance" policies, children deal with threats beyond our imagining in the latter decades of the last century.

[modzilla732k]

I was offered a cqb dvd set that offered these exact moves in their program not 6mths ago, proving thier affectability! There again after 120bpm heart rate you are only capable of "gross motor movement" such as the chin jab and gouging, defendu makes as much of GMM as poss. The Fairburn-Sykes knife is the emblem of th british S.A.S. Both were policemen in shanghai and trained thier staff to survive these "contacts".

[thefireman101]

guys don't get killed trying to do this shit in real life-

suspects don't give up so easily. the only way the tactics will work in real life, is they have to be executed with perfect speed precision and shock action- and plenty of practice.

[Sheik06]

Man you truly don't know this system. Defendu is a combat proven system, still taught to some special forces of the UK.

I'm not going to tell you to try this in a life-death situation because you won't believe me and you'll not do it. Bet let's see, try it against a bully (if it doesn't work, then there isn't much trouble, you would think), with FULL SPEED AND POWER and let's see if it doesn't work.

You'll surprise. These are natural movements that doesn't require a lot of practice.

[MidnighWolf]

Quite right, wether it's neing refered to as 'Defendu' 'Close Combat' or 'WWII Combatives' theres no doubt in my mind that Fairbairn's system was for real.

Any one who wants proof it works....

Well, ever heard of the Second World War...?

[megasayajinsongoku99]

@MidnighWolf The Second world war was fought with weapons , tancs and nuclear weapons not with hand to hand fighting. The Germans had also similar techniques.

''The answear to the english gangster methods''

[WoooZee]

@MidnighWolf You mean the one that was fought with 1911's, Thompsons, M1 Garandes, and finally ended by nuclear bombs? That Second World War?

[sgtmac46]

"they have to be executed with perfect speed precision and shock action- and plenty of practice." Pretty much like any other techniques. No system exists that doesn't require those things, for the record.

[oalak7]

very nice thanks

[to3d]

what's with applegate & balls (read kill or get killed)

[Samoobramba]

Legendary video! Fairbairn is the first martial realist of the modern era. His Close Combat (WWII Combatives) is the most simple and effective combat system.

[peacemaker281]

Great history video of Canadian military training in the old days. Techniques still apply today.

[oalak7]

thank you sendas4 for this nice video five stars

[guerrierodelgiaguaro]

Very interesting!

[hgu001]

Hi,

I have a relative high degree in Wing Tsun and I'm also practising kick boxing.

Having red *Kill or get killed' and seen these videos, I have mixed emotions.

First of all, I think in a military environment, these techniques are very efficient. But in a typical bar fight or so, nowadays your opponent is likely to have some boxing experience (at least here in Germany).

This means he'll cover himself with his arms.

Has anybody any experience with Fairbains method in such a situation?

[stecha2]

Well Carl Cestari for example used boxing techniques(bareknuckles) from chinese and western methods.

The DVD "The fairbairn seminar" covers a bit of it..Carl once even did a Video tape(bareknuckle boxing) about boxing in combatives...

Combatives is also meant to be taught in SHORT ,SHORT TERMS....

But if you train these techniques for YEARS...over and over again you get used to them like a boxer with his jab...

[hgu001]

Thank you for this informative answer, stecha2. Is the DV "The fairbairn seminar" still available? If yes, do you recommend it to get an overview over this method?

Regards,

Horst

[MischaC]

In my understanding, many moves in FAS are based on the element of surprise. If he's already in a fighting stance, that's generally bad news for you. You do have the advantage of striking two places at once, one of them illegal in boxing. I'd be more concerned about getting counterpunched while moving into range than the strikes themselves failing.

[hgu001]

H MischacC,

I see your point

[cerasi209]

thank you for addressing that. Not enough self defense methods cover encountering someone who knows at min. what they are doing

[3Rules4Europe]

@hgu001 I understand what you mean, but what are your reasons of getting into a barfight in the first place? If the situation in a bar gets ugly with someone, you can always try to defuse it by talking to the guy, or you can leave the bar. A bar is not a boxing ring and you have no referee to remind you of the rules.

[3Rules4Europe]

He may start boxing and if he feels humiliated or scared, he or a friend may fancy pulling out a blade or any improvised weapon to hurt you with life threatening consequences. For what? A bad look? A few bad words? It is not worth it... As Tim Larkin says, violence is rarely the answer but when it is the answer, it is the ONLY answer.

[MALOSINZ]

Am I the only one here who thinks of the old 1960's BATMAN show around 0:48 when the soldiers are hitting the air? WHACK! THOCK! POW! hehehe...it would be vicious in reality but in practice they look funny. The masks don't help dispell the Batman image for me either. Full respect to this systema and to these men who are my superior in every way but I can't but help see the funny side here.

[stanssoapbox]

Does anybody know the reason behind the face masks. Is it to protect the eyes from the finger gouges or the protect the identity of the soldies from the enemy or something else?

[neotericbladesman]

Yes, it was to protect the identity of the instructors. Many of the OSS instructors were combat veterans, have went on missions both before and after these films. They had reason to protect their identities from their enemies.

[stanssoapbox]

Yeah thanks, i suppose that figures because othorwise they woulds have been singled out and head hunted by the enemy, mabey even kidnaped and forced to train their soldiers in our methods.

[philphoemix777]

Fairbairn truly a legend in my eyes.

Close Combat is Simple & Effective and I have him to thank.

[labeteduschola]

Interesting stuff Gunnermac. Are their any more details on this online anywhere?

[trebdude1]

I wonder if that is Fairbairn himself in the dark overalls. Geeze that was fast when he actually made his move to disarm the guy with the pistol. If they didn't show you the moves again in slow mo you'd just be like "WTF did he just do?" Its awesome that old footage like this survives. "the gentle art of murder" I can't over that! Old school combatives are bad to the bone.

[DeathSquadLegionaire]

AWESOME!!! FAIRBAIRN ROCKS!!!

[Valclav]

Fairbairn was a genius!

[gekiryudojo]

holy Crap Batman! There's Robin Clones everywhere! Quick to the Batmobile everone!

[guiltybystander77]

but these guys dont wear the pixy shoes!

[COBRASUPRA]

THX for that clip , I needed a good laugh ;)

[StantheGunman]

This is awesome!

[xaramano]

this is jujitsu

[malvernspring]

Very interesting from a historical point of view, but we have come a long way since. I think the "F+S" course was basic, as it had to be mastered quickly. My Dad was a Canadian Commando in WW2, and remembers the CQB element as being 2 or 3 two hour sessions. I have been doing martial arts since 1967, and am just stratching the surface!

[xaramano]

I see. Just for the history, all these techniques are Jujitsu techniques. Except that the gun used to be knife. The only difference I see is at the last technique, his left hand has opposite, wrong grip that tends to released in that way, what is your opinion? , What is your style?

[malvernspring]

Good to hear from you Xaramano. I expect the disarming technique would work equally well with a gun or a knife. I was taught never to let a prisoner nearer than 3 meters to me, if I was holding him at gun point. I started off doing Western boxing, then was taught unarmed combat as a Para. This was largely Karate. I kept up boxing, but branched into Shotokan Karate and Kupso, a mixed martial art. I am currently studying Kyusho, and amazed at the complexity of the pressure point system.

[naujitii]

not really, jujitsu is mostly ground fighting than stand up engagement.

[xaramano]

You mean Brazilian jiu jitsu but I am talking about classic Japanese jujutsu

[naujitii]

well,now that I think of it they might some moves from Jiu Jitsu. As a matter of fact I took the art when I went to Colombia.  I just love the idea that you can use the enemy strenght force towards your advantage.

[labeteduschola]

That's true of BJJ, but not traditional jujitsu, which was designed for a different context, one where weapons and multiple opponents were the norm.

[seekerofvision678]

it is really look alike i must say

[ajb7876]

Correct sir,Dan Fairbain was the first foreigner living outside Japan to be awarded a black belt in Ju-Jitsu and was said to have had 200 hand to hand fights while serving as head of the Shanghai riot police before the war.

[mikebalko]

What the hell is with the lone ranger masks?

[MokomaSusi]

OPSEC? thats my guess.

[DEAallday]

Applegate and Fairbairn are true H2H combat pioneers