This guy is a complete and total noob. I've watched his other vids. Every single one of them is completely wrong, and frankly dangerous. New riders, stay the hell away from this advice. Take an MSF course and ignore EVERYTHING you see with this "expert"
Whats this counterlean thing, thats for 1mph trials riding not street riding, look a my vids and you wont see me counterleaning and I do them slow and faster in a much smaller turning circle than that, not taking a pop at you but if your counterleaning youve leaned the bike too much for the turn in the first place, ride safe
@2wheelsteve You're riding a mo-ped in your video dude; much much easier to do these figure 8s on. Same with cruiser style bikes versus sport bikes (I've attempted these on both); there's barely any turning angle to work with on the sport bikes. That said, would love to see someone demo this right and tight on a sport bike cos this vid doesn't quite cut it.
@2wheelsteve You're riding a mo-ped in your video dude; much much easier to do these figure 8s on. Same with cruiser style bikes versus sport bikes (I've attempted these on both); there's barely any turning angle to work with on the sport bikes. That said, would love to see someone demo this right and tight on a sport bike cos this vid doesn't quite cut it.
@swatbrat It a honda cd 250u not a moped, I ride all bikes and been riding 37yrs, if its a poor turning circle you dump the bike over though you have to practice slow upright, the othjer guy in my vid is riding a cg125
Not to be practiced on the road especially if your not looking further than your front wheel, your intentions are good mate and Im not knocking you but think about it before you make the video, simple things like safety gear, look where you want to go ect ect
Whats with this counter balancing thing? I understand its principles, but most people when having to do tight turns just feather the clutch, look where you wanna go and use the back brake when needed. I can do a 70" u turn lock to lock figure of 8's without having to shift my weight to the outside of the bike. Maybe counter balancing could help with really heavy bikes, but everyone i know gets along with the look where you wanna go thing.
I use counter steering often when im on the throttle not letting off switching from one side to another, because the bikes centrifugal force of the wheels at high speeds wants to keep the bike upright so when im gunning it leaned to the left and i need to flick to the right i just pull the left lever..I find it easyer pulling than pushing when holding on pushing it.
Expert? How about turning your head and looking where you want to go? Eish... and I agree with viperman5686, how about some over the ankle footwear?
As a MSF Instructor (RiderCoach) and Professional Test Rider, I hope those watching the videos take the MSF course and learn why it is VITAL TO LOOK WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
You are better off not teaching anybody anything, than teaching someone the wrong way to do something and potentially causing injury.
I took it! And looking helps so much! I used to freak out and panic and get wobbly but as soon as i started looking, i was able to even do the small box!
@CTEKGUY Your opinion is 100%, he seem pretty noob, LOL, Im a newbie at riding(not even 1 month), and I use your methods, looking to where I want to go, using better gear,etc., god... xD, my instructor seem to be pretty like you :P
I personally like to watch videos like this and credit should be given to the people who take the time to make them and then post to YouTube. Overall this is a good video and it probably helped some people. What bothers me sometimes is that the old wives tales about leaning and countersteering continue to be propagated even if not by videos themselves, but by uniformed comments.
The speed at which a bike starts to countersteer depends on the geometry of the bike front end and varies for different bikes. At very slow speeds to go left you actually turn left (direct steering,) but at higher speeds you need to countersteer. In other words to go left you push on the left handlebar which briefly steers to the right initiating a left turn.
Sometimes you'll see a rider do a little zig-zag to start a turn which they call countersteering. In my opinion it is not.
you'd be surprised at how many people I've seen have problems with this stuff. at the MSF course several people had a hard time doing this without putting their foot down. And I've seen people drop their bikes at low speeds because they couldn't do this.
exactly!! he is not counter steering, he's going to slow to counter steer. look at his front wheel it is turning in the direction of the turn. Counter steering is putting pressure on the handle bars in the direction of the turn. to go right you push right. to go left you push left. but this only works at speeds of about 20mph and higher. if you are going slower, then you have to turn the wheel in the direction of the turn.
Control of a motorcycle going slow is a real skill.This may look easy but most heros can not do it.If you learn this you my not drop your motorcycle(when you get one) in a parking
lot like so may people do.(including myself)Watch the video again and notice how he moves his ass to the outside and pulls the bar in the direction of the turn.Countersteering at speed you move you ass to the inside and push the bar in the direction of the turn.Before you call someone a tool go to school!
A few years ago, two parents went out for dinner. A few hours later, the babysitter was calling to ask if she could cover up the clown statue in the kids' room, the father said,"Take the kids and get out of the house. We'll call the police, we don't have a clown statue." The "clown statue" is really a killer that escaped from jail. If you don't post this letter on to 10 videos tonight, the clown will be in your bed at 3:00 am with a chainsaw in his hand;sorry i didnt want that happening to me
This guy is a complete and total noob. I've watched his other vids. Every single one of them is completely wrong, and frankly dangerous. New riders, stay the hell away from this advice. Take an MSF course and ignore EVERYTHING you see with this "expert"
Learn to ride like this and you will die.
TheSteelerider 8 months ago
I have watched all your training vids. You would never pass a module 1 Test in the UK.
using those techniques.
Sorry fella
spadxiii1919 10 months ago
Great videos but not the whole thing, where is the rest?
therussianguy0409 11 months ago
Thanks for sharing your riding skills.
WaqasAliZahid 1 year ago 2
Whats this counterlean thing, thats for 1mph trials riding not street riding, look a my vids and you wont see me counterleaning and I do them slow and faster in a much smaller turning circle than that, not taking a pop at you but if your counterleaning youve leaned the bike too much for the turn in the first place, ride safe
2wheelsteve 1 year ago
@2wheelsteve You're riding a mo-ped in your video dude; much much easier to do these figure 8s on. Same with cruiser style bikes versus sport bikes (I've attempted these on both); there's barely any turning angle to work with on the sport bikes. That said, would love to see someone demo this right and tight on a sport bike cos this vid doesn't quite cut it.
swatbrat 1 year ago
@2wheelsteve You're riding a mo-ped in your video dude; much much easier to do these figure 8s on. Same with cruiser style bikes versus sport bikes (I've attempted these on both); there's barely any turning angle to work with on the sport bikes. That said, would love to see someone demo this right and tight on a sport bike cos this vid doesn't quite cut it.
swatbrat 1 year ago
@swatbrat It a honda cd 250u not a moped, I ride all bikes and been riding 37yrs, if its a poor turning circle you dump the bike over though you have to practice slow upright, the othjer guy in my vid is riding a cg125
2wheelsteve 1 year ago
Nobodyelse is putting out video on how to? So, they should STFU...
One thing...
Watch CHP videos on riding... they are PRICELESS...
REMEMBER ONE THING!!!!!
Wherever your head goes???? you Go....
Turn your head all the way around in the direction you want to turn...
peace...
CastingStonez 2 years ago
Not to be practiced on the road especially if your not looking further than your front wheel, your intentions are good mate and Im not knocking you but think about it before you make the video, simple things like safety gear, look where you want to go ect ect
bikedemon99 2 years ago
despite the effort and intention, for which you should be commended m you have absolutley no idea what you are doing.
People would be best to view this vid and then forget all about it just like many of the others in the series,
bjjahk 2 years ago
Whats with this counter balancing thing? I understand its principles, but most people when having to do tight turns just feather the clutch, look where you wanna go and use the back brake when needed. I can do a 70" u turn lock to lock figure of 8's without having to shift my weight to the outside of the bike. Maybe counter balancing could help with really heavy bikes, but everyone i know gets along with the look where you wanna go thing.
thehowlingterror 3 years ago
I use counter steering often when im on the throttle not letting off switching from one side to another, because the bikes centrifugal force of the wheels at high speeds wants to keep the bike upright so when im gunning it leaned to the left and i need to flick to the right i just pull the left lever..I find it easyer pulling than pushing when holding on pushing it.
Brainiac83 2 years ago
Expert? How about turning your head and looking where you want to go? Eish... and I agree with viperman5686, how about some over the ankle footwear?
As a MSF Instructor (RiderCoach) and Professional Test Rider, I hope those watching the videos take the MSF course and learn why it is VITAL TO LOOK WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
You are better off not teaching anybody anything, than teaching someone the wrong way to do something and potentially causing injury.
CTEKGUY 3 years ago 7
I took it! And looking helps so much! I used to freak out and panic and get wobbly but as soon as i started looking, i was able to even do the small box!
thetruebilliam 2 years ago
@CTEKGUY Your opinion is 100%, he seem pretty noob, LOL, Im a newbie at riding(not even 1 month), and I use your methods, looking to where I want to go, using better gear,etc., god... xD, my instructor seem to be pretty like you :P
BBoyXy 1 year ago
I like how this guy is wearing tennis shoes. He's going to regret that when his ankle bones get ground off by asphalt.
viperman5686 3 years ago 5
@viperman5686 those are skate shoe's
TheSkizsus 8 months ago
I personally like to watch videos like this and credit should be given to the people who take the time to make them and then post to YouTube. Overall this is a good video and it probably helped some people. What bothers me sometimes is that the old wives tales about leaning and countersteering continue to be propagated even if not by videos themselves, but by uniformed comments.
Thundurburd 3 years ago
The speed at which a bike starts to countersteer depends on the geometry of the bike front end and varies for different bikes. At very slow speeds to go left you actually turn left (direct steering,) but at higher speeds you need to countersteer. In other words to go left you push on the left handlebar which briefly steers to the right initiating a left turn.
Sometimes you'll see a rider do a little zig-zag to start a turn which they call countersteering. In my opinion it is not.
Thundurburd 3 years ago
you'd be surprised at how many people I've seen have problems with this stuff. at the MSF course several people had a hard time doing this without putting their foot down. And I've seen people drop their bikes at low speeds because they couldn't do this.
Omega350ss 3 years ago 2
exactly!! he is not counter steering, he's going to slow to counter steer. look at his front wheel it is turning in the direction of the turn. Counter steering is putting pressure on the handle bars in the direction of the turn. to go right you push right. to go left you push left. but this only works at speeds of about 20mph and higher. if you are going slower, then you have to turn the wheel in the direction of the turn.
Derrick128 3 years ago
countersteer and counterlean!
FindlaySucks 3 years ago
Control of a motorcycle going slow is a real skill.This may look easy but most heros can not do it.If you learn this you my not drop your motorcycle(when you get one) in a parking
lot like so may people do.(including myself)Watch the video again and notice how he moves his ass to the outside and pulls the bar in the direction of the turn.Countersteering at speed you move you ass to the inside and push the bar in the direction of the turn.Before you call someone a tool go to school!
fast07dyna 3 years ago
lol
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sorry guys i had to pass this one on.....paste this on ten videos or your mom will die
28dye 3 years ago
wow it would take a rocket scientist to figure that out........lamo vid
crazyshisnit08 3 years ago
jspace721 are you realy think that he so fast can
mustalig 3 years ago
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lmao nice figure 8s. is that as fast as u go? o.0
jspace721 3 years ago
What is the motorcycle he is driving? Who's it by?
iunnraiis 3 years ago
either honda cbr1000 or cbr600
lildude878 3 years ago
this guy has a legit bike
thephilmingo 3 years ago
1st comment!!!!!!!!!
Slovenec10 3 years ago