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  • lol because he said it was his strongest point does not mean its good enough to beat ryus, ones persons greatness is another persons standards. so that comic didn't mean he has the strongest one lol but i think the name dragon punch  seems like kens got it locked but thats just flashy ryu got all that fire locked into his fist and he dosnt show it off :)

  • ryu needs his sweet chin music, i was sad when i played and he did not have it. shit was epic

  • lmao hey man how u get them flames daw how u get them flames lol!!!

  • ryu dragon punch does more damage and ryu's hit window is more dominant than kens.

  • light shoryuken, flaming hadouken. ryu mastered hadouken. every on loves tha move. target combo, flaming shoryuken. ken mastered shoryuken. most people dont do it, dont know why. ken's target combo is a good combo starter. who has a better hurricane kick some 1 let me know?

  • @ContentBlock ryu has the better hurricane kick its stronger than kens, cuze ken hits twice only while ryu hits all the way through if yu get them right. and the reason why most people dont use kens dragon punch is cuze they dont know how lol. all yu see now is button mashers that know how to do ultras.

  • actually, ryu mastered all of the moves, and ken refuses to do them right because he likes style. But he does have a better shoryuken, even though he didn't master it.

  • !

    how'd you get them flames dawg 0_0

  • Ryu's thrust kick is probably what broke Sagat.

  • I agree pretty much 100% Ryu's kick from 3rd strike is a monster..and I miss the damn thing. The only real evidence that makes Ryu master of the Dragon punch is that big haggard scar on our friend Sagat. To my recollection Ken aint marked no one up with his.

  • @xxxLAVABEASTxxx He was turned into "Evil ryu" when he made that Scar on sagat... So it doesnt count. Get back and read on the story and you will see.

  • @TotteTheBreaker Will do....but still it is Ryu in a way so it counts in my own personal record LOL!!!

  • Look this is how it is...

    Ken: Dragon punch

    Ryu: Fire Ball

    Hurrican Kick: Tie / diffrences... (honestly I think ryu has a slight upper hand in the hurrican kick area)

    But that is how is was and alwas should be...

    This is the balance between them that should always be...

  • metsu tatsumaki senpūkyaku ?

  • I've always thought Ryu was a one hit power move technicain...

    where as Ken was a flashy combo master...

  • I notice how much you liked in 3rd Strike and I respect that.

    As a Ryu player, I think they should stay away from 3rd Strike, ONLY FOR RYU. He was so shitty in 3rd strike, all his attacks did dick damage (with the exception of the Shin-Shoryuken) and all his basic button attacks were much slower than most characters in that game.

    That forward thrust kick was cool looking, but you'd never pull that move off in a pro fight, too damn slow and recovery time was PAINFUL.

    I like Ryu in SF4 atm.

  • Even though ur rite about KEN mastering/perfecting shoryuken, it's not cuz of the flames. Those are just Kens own signature added to the move to make it different.

    Kens shoryuken still needs to be faster, stronger, and better recovery.

    Ryu will probably already be even better with shoryuken ultra, but the shinku tatsumaki senpukyaku would b an awesome super

  • theres one thing i dont like about ken in ssf4. hes a lil too lose. his movements are not as explosive as ryu's moves. ken just doesnt feel as powerful as ryu. u kno wat i mean?

  • ryu and ken dont have shit on gouken tho he invented the dp

  • Just because a dragon punch has fire doesnt make ken's better than ryu's punch. Ken is fist of fire. Ryu is fist of wind. Wind comes out when he does it. Akuma has purple flames when he does it, doesnt he?

  • HELL YEAH. Ryu doin the fire uppercut in the udon comic was a big wtf moment.

  • ryu never mastered the srk only ken has, ryu mastered the hodoken akuma has really mastered both of them, thats why ken has fire coming out of his fist, srk is also called the dragon punch, hence the name dragon punch, fire . ryu doesent have fire ken does

  • How you doing flames dog, how you doing flames XDXD

    hilarious. and you say that with such a straight face :P

  • thats was funny as hell!!

  • @dibsmaster lol that junk had me dying too bruh

  • I'd say Ryu's SRK > Ken's SRK for the simple fact that Ryu's SRK hits ONCE and does the same amount as Ken's 3 hits...

  • Plus the fact that he can use a DP into ultra easily without FADC or anything. Ken's is mainly used to end combos.

  • from sfa, forward and lk...that's what he needs.

  • ryu is still better anyways.

  • yo i lyke ryu's hurricane kick from tatsunoko vs.capcom...now thts sweet. give him tht junk lol

  • ryu n ken both master shoryuken. it just ryu reach his limited with shoryuken but ken had higher potential with shoryuken then ryu.

  • Forgot to mention, hes missing the ablitiy to

    hit with the hurricane kick while jumping

    over someone. lost a lot of pressure from that

  • Just don't make him slow as hell, though his fireball is too fast, along with sagats.

  • gouken,sagat,guile projectile are faster

    plus most character hav tools 2get past it easy,like rog,grief,rose

  • Video's still the best dude. But, Ryu already has that hurricane kick... he does what you want him to do on the ex hurricance kick. Not as awesome as you want it to be, but he already has it.

  • yeah i would take the ultra hurricane kick over the ultra haduken any day.

  • I agree any thing related to hadoken make ryu's better nd same thing for ken nd the shoryuken (dragon punch). Nd sayin tht I think they shuld jus scrap Ryu's metsu shoryuken all together. nd definately give him the jean claude van damme kick

  • hey free1up u definetly gotta get tasunoko vs capcom.Check it man.

  • ur ryt.......that is from the 2nd part ov street fighter comic.......

  • ryu has a better srk in sf4 but in the story ken is the srk guy

  • 4:00 How u get them flames dawg?

    xD

  • in my opinion

    Ryu shouldn't be changed at all,

    he aint weak, he aint broke (unless you consider HOW EASY it is to setup to ultra).

    Tweak other characters to his level I guess, or make Deejay as good as Ryu, that crumple to ultra seems easy setup...

  • i wanna fight a "pro" im on psn btw, mr.Bison

  • RYU needs his ultra weakened. its too strong and retains its power even when u combo and fadc.

  • Dude you are fucking hilarious bro haha!

    Just to agree, I always thought Ken was the master of the Dragon Punch and Ryu the Master of the Hadouken (Fireball)

  • ryu couldn't do it if he had all day. lmao. u hilarious bro. luvin these!!!!!!

  • ryu is gay. the forward step kick from 3's would be cool, but his DP into ultra has to go. ultra tatsu would be cool but not mega damage.

  • Ryu only needs 2 things:

    1. His Sidekick from 3rd strike

    (HCF+K)

    2. His Shin Shoryuken from 3rd strike should be his 2nd ultra. (QCFx2+KKK)

  • agreed man, that would be sick as hell!

  • I agree. Ryu is Japanese, and they focus mainly on technique and power, not a big variety or fancy moves. Ryu has always stayed true to that and thats why Ryu's moves were usually stronger than Ken's and his hurricane knocked you down. So his side kick and shin shoryuken(both of which are "power" moves) is all he needs. Let's keep it civil!

  • and it should kill you lolol

  • plus in this game called tsunoku for the wii ryu has this special that looks just like goukens ultra so thats more proof that he has the best dragon punch lol

  • i don't know man. just cause he got flames on his doesn't make it better. its debatable though but ryu's uppercut is way too powerful as is now though

  • AGREE WITH THE HALF CIRCLE FORWARD KICK... that was beast.... also the hurrcaine kick.... totally agree bro...

  • ryu is more of a focused fighter than ken and he understands what it is going to take to control the dark hado

  • Ryu imo needs the fake fireball back,but new and improved.Make it so that the actucal fireball looks alot like the real deal but doesnt do any damage nor finching.XD!

  • Ryu doesnt need anything, hes EASY to use, he has ALOT of ways to combo ultra, and his normals are all above average. Or are u gonna tell me it dont piss u off that ryus jumping strong beats bisons jumping strong CLEAN and also combos into ultra. And lets not mention the fact that the short cuts help him ALOT, mashing dps is almost always a good idea and u can super cancel or fadc into ultra. THe only things he should get is a new ultra, and even then he will prob get 100 more ways to combo it.

  • ryu has a shin shoryuken

  • lol hahah "how you do flames dog!!??"

  • yeah but in SFIV Ryu has a better shoryuken than ken

  • they cant give him metsu shoryuken

    becuase gouken sealed the Satsui no Hadou

  • Lance!

    I think he should have Metsu Hadouken for his super, the shinku tatsumaki for his ultra, and maybe give him a Denjin for his other ultra. Denjin was just too bad ass!

  • ill have to say my opinion,

    ken shoryuken ultra needs to be an effective anti air cuz its almost useless..

    and yeah ryu should get all his power moves and a crazy hurricane ultra! 2 super fireball is lazy! and akuma having 2 raging demon is bullshit

  • people are forgetting something. It was ryu's dragon punch that BURNED that scar on faggot sagat.

  • In Ryu's ending he killed Bison with a Shoryuken too...

  • man u think u pro? man im pro. im so pro i like to spam fireballs and anti air and occasionally random uppercuts and some ultras.....with sagat

  • give ryu the super kamehameha LMAO!

    theres a fireball no sf character can staand up to lol

  • I think Vega should be improved, he needs to be tweaked more badly than ken.

  • i have no problems actually fighting ryu but what i do have a problem with is chasing them down its wack when they sit on there spamming an then do shoryuken to back u up but the only thing they should change about ryu is how u can do the ultra right after his light shoryuken

  • only way to improve Ryu is to ban Sagat. Ryu is good enough.

  • HOW U GET EM FLAMES DOG lol

  • that's why i don't give diago a shit because of the usage of the "cheapeat" character

  • ok, ur probably like this coz u lose to a lot of ryu's HAHAHA.

  • capcom need to nerf his damage output to balance the whole game

  • capcom should just give him the hurricane kick as ultra instead of that fireball, also the side kick from SF3 thats about all he needs .

  • they should give back the fake fireball lol...

  • As for Imporvements to Ryu, The Blade Kick would be cool, But that might make him a little overpowered. They probably won't add it.

    The Shinkuu Tatsumaki is an EX, and it works that way, really. I think they should give him the Metsu Shoryuken that he had in SFA3 as his 2nd Ultra, and make it do good damage this time.

  • LOL, Udon SF comic. Nice. Ken is better at the Shoryuken than Ryu, but I don't think he mastered it. He added some fire and flashiness, but the masters of their style are Gouki and Gouken.

    Ryu kills Bison with a Shoryuken in his A3 ending too, lol.

    And the mastered form of the Shoryuken is the Shin Shoryuken. Shoryureppa and Shinryuken are powerful variations on the move.

  • You're right on point Free, Flames=Master and they had their respective moves with flames on em' Case Closed.

  • Ryu dont need to get better >=l he needs nerfs

  • why would they nerf Ryu? to make him low tier? No one needs a nerf, they just neef to buff the weakest chars, just like sirlin did in HD remix

  • good point

  • only thing i had a problem with ryu was his super and ultra and i hope they give him atleast a different one to use

  • Lol I've been thinking about all this same stuff you said. Ryu needs either his tatsu ultra, or the metsu shoryuken. Both would be great. AND DEFINITELY, his 3rd strike mule kick fam I feel you on that one lol. I loved that move.

  • ryu showed have a ultra like in mugen knock u down he jumps and he hadoken from the air like boah lil boy lil fellow =))

  • Give him his blade kick from thrid strike and he would be god like.

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  • lol

    "hOw YoU get DeM fLamEs DaWg?"

  • AKUMAA

  • come on dude ryu does not need anything else. he is already a top tier.

  • make a video about improving gen lol

  • the way to improve gen is to remove him from the game completely lol

  • why would u wanna do that? hes the most Kick ass char in the game imo lol

  • i want to make him less noob friendly every char should be a charge char that should be a sf game charge galore.

  • I'd like to see Ryu's Dragon punch lose some range. Not too much, just a little.

  • i can agree with the 3rd strike kick , but tbh they need to make his next ultra not so easy to land, i mean total noobs can knock u off with a dragon punch mid air and knock u into an ultra, im not saying make it impossible but, make it more of a challenge.

  • shinkuu-tatsumaki-senpuu-kyaku

    shin-shoryuken

    Joudan-Sokutou-Geri

    and better alt costumes

  • Improve Ryu? Naah. I got a better idea, how about havin a storyline where he gives in into the Dark Hadou and turns into Evil Ryu and becomes a character replacing "Good" Ryu.

  • one more thing why are you whispering.

  • lance i could say the same. why cant ken use the most damaging shoryuken art ever, which is the SHIN-SHORYUKEN

  • hey ... yeah they should improve ryu by giving him new moves and probably 4 ultras ...

  • Dude you going to make one on Chun Li?

  • I agree with this guy but I believe Ryu should always be better than Ken overall.

  • no way ken is every bit as good as ryu

  • i 100% agree with putting ryu's sf3 3rd strike kick, the one that bounces you off the wall

  • Ryu doesn't really need anything upped he is fine, but maybe he can get his "Fake Fireball" back. I think he should get a real alt costume instead of a torn up costume.

  • just nerf his stupid jump punch that has more priority than anything in the game and he'll be good. Nothin else he has bothers me, as alot of characters have the "easy" ultra setup.

  • ryu needs an attack to help him gain ground and move forward, just a normal. i like him the way he is except for that....cause i have a really hard time in G1 trying to rush down with him. ken's got the step kick and akuma's got the double roundhouse so ryu u needs something to me. maybe the kick from 3rd strike free was talking about.

  • Cept that wasn't a normal, that was a special and could be EX'd ^_^ Man...when you hit someone with it EX it was sexy. lawl

  • Ryu did used to have a hop kick in Alpha and CvS2... it was something like F + MK and it looked like a single frame of the Tatsumaki

  • he aint a pro hes just a ho lol!!!!

  • lol what a ken lover ryu will wax ken any day.

  • they need evil ryu bak

    nuf said

    oh ye ken> all

  • SHINRYUKEN!!!!!!!

  • my strinth ;)

  • "you fight pros now? You been fighting me for months!"

    Lmao

    Ken pulld that ultra out and didn't even have to be beat on for a bit first.

  • why wasn't anybody complaining when ken was leagues better that ryu in 3rd strike?

  • cuz ryu had an extra move....

  • I think they should tone down ryu's punch

    I mean seriously, you can trade with ryu in the air with his dragon punch and you can still be hit with his ultra. Thats just lame

  • hey, Ken..

    how you get them flames?

  • Dang, Is Ryu gets all that, Ima be afraid to fight him lol.

    ...only thing i wish they can tone down on Ryu is, not being able to link a dragon punch after his over head attack. I'm not asking much, am I?

  • 4:00 Ayo how u get them flames yo lol

  • LOLOL friggin comedy... but true

  • I wish they called Gouken Sheng Long

  • if everyone is getting a 2nd ultra in ss4 then ryu should get the super uppercut he has in mvc2. I think that would make him unstoppable tho. I'm waitin on you to make an how to improve bison video cause god knows he needs lots of improvment.

  • how about GOUKEN MADE the dragon punch, and ken mastered it... : D

  • gouken was in a ten year coma so he really didnt have time to train

  • for real

  • An improvement that ssf4 should have is that Gouken can have a shoryuken special move, just a regular one. He only has a shoryuken he does a super or a ultra.

  • u mean hadouken special move? yea that would be iight, i really wanna c like a ultra tatsu, like his regular1 but in the air and they can make a it a little more fancey haha that would be awesome

  • how ya get them flamez LOL

  • I think Ryu is quite balanced the way things are now and probably doesn't need any real improvements , since he does well already especially in tournaments and tiers.

    But since everyone is getting a second ultra I'd rather see the super hurricane kick than the shin-sho-ryu-ken.

    About Ryu and Ken's dragon punches . Yeah Ken's are better if you get all the hits in ..... but Ryu's more about raw power / focused pure chi in a single hit ... than multiple hits with flames

  • ken master dragon punch ryu master haduken who doesnt know this already.

  • Why is this thumbed down, this is obvious.. Ken specialised in shoryuken and ryu in hadoukens..

  • i agree wit u free bout ken and ryu's dragon punch and fireball! A true sf fan would know dat ken has always had the better dp and ryu had the better fireball!

  • To me the flames on kens dragon punch just represent his personality, all flashy, style but no substance.

    Gouken's ultra used to be ryu's special on older games, and i'm pretty sure that shoryuken is better than kens.

    Ken is much smoother and easier to use than ryu, but ryu is always compared as superior (hence the reason bison wanted ryu before ken in the animated movie).

    Also lets not forget Akuma as a master. His shoryuken ripped a boat in half at the end of third strike :P

  • YOUR FACE IS GARBAGE

  • DIRECTED TOWARDS MONIMAN

  • nicely put

  • what one handed chun li player? i wanna see him

  • in the story ryu use it whene fighhting sagat so he did master it but nt to the same lvl as ken

  • "How you do the flames?!" that junk had me rolling. Good stuff.

  • i really like the kick from 3rd strike that really rounded ryu out imo it was such a great move and gave him more options now with the ultra system the sky is the limit for that ex kick it could be so awesome, also i really liked the charge fireball with the stun from 3rd strike maby they could change his current ultra to that to make it different to his super, because right now they are basicly the same move one ends combo's and one is more of a juggle into move

  • you actually like playing SF4???

    me & my cousin bought it & it seemed too complicated for us... and then the grabbers in the game was horrible, pple like Zangrief & Abel tripped us out! lol! xD

  • ryu's light dragon punch has less downtime then kens. I can't prove it, but I was messing around spamming that and I noticed ken just felt slower and he was getting punished quite a bit more. ryu seemed to do the next dragon punch before he came down from the first. I beat a few people that way too rofl

  • make ryu's dragon punch weaker than ken's. change the way that Ryu's hadouken looks like something from alpha 3. Thats all i have ti say bout ryu

  • Somebodies got Ryu envy huh? lol

  • Ken's Shoryuken is definately awsome.

    Ryu's Hadouken is more like Goukens, while Ken's shoryuken is more like Akumas.

    Thats supposed to be a reference to how Gouken and Akuma turned out to be different.

  • i hate dayasha

  • But yeah, as others said.....Ryu needs NOTHING else, lol.

  • I'm willing to bet Ryu's gonna get the Shinkuu-Tatsumaki, and Gouken's gonna get the Denjin- Hadoken, maybe even with 3 direction options too.

  • Ryu should not be nerfd for buffd in SSF4. The character balance right now is right for the game. Justin Wong said it him self after he won a tournament with Fei Long, it just takes hard work to beat high tier characters, so people need to stop bitching about he overpowered a character is. Ryu is fine how he is. There's no need for his kick from 3s cuz people would it coming from a mile away cuz of the slow start up.

  • your cocky

  • your mother likes cock

  • ..... im joking.....

  • It seems like they gave his moves from 3rd Strike to Gouken. Gouken's focus is like Ryu's HCF kick move & of course, the Shin-Shoryuken is what Ryu had in SFIII AND Capcom vs. SNK.

    The combo when Ryu would HCF kick you, make you hit the wall & follow up with a Shoryuken was cool.

    That whole sequence would be a good idea as a new ultra. I think I'd prefer THAT over the Shinku Hurricane or the Shin-Shoryuken...

  • i want that third strike kick that knocks u against the wall

  • They need to bring back fierce sweep kick into fire ball a good way to keep Bolrog, Zangief away as well as bring back the donkey kick, medium kick while holding forward. great for hoping over Guiles sonic boom and Blanka slide.

  • hey lance do one about akuma and bison!

  • their coming one at a time lol

  • It I would be cool if they add another boss. Also re-do the animated cut scenes which were terrible, and do them like the manga, or even stick with that awesome splash art style they use in the for the intro.

  • i agree, seth kinda....sucks as a boss >=)

  • put jago on street fighter

  • daya is a cocky bastard that no one likes

  • HAHAHAHA "howd you get dem flames dawg howd u get dem flames!!!!!"

  • Ken is stronger and faster then Ryu. Thast´s basik street fighter. But its a lot from street fighter 3 i whant to se in SF4.

  • Yeah, I definately missed the side kick the most from Third Strike. And I think an Ultra Hurricane Kick would be good too. But as long as the side kick is included, I'll be happy.

  • Ryu needs to be a liiiiiittle bit nerffed. Just a little bit. Because he's really not that messed up without some of his attacks.

  • I like ryu the way he is, i'd like the shoryuken for him though, like in third strike.  Only person that needs adjustments is sagat, he's seriously unbalanced, especially on a laggy connection he can exploit online play like no other.

  • True about the Shoryuken, I am not even trying to argue about that. But about my main man, Ryu, all I need the kick you were talking about that he bounces you off the wall. A better Ultra, too. I don't really like all these fireball based supers and ultras.

    One thing that would be nice is to give him that slanting Akuma kick when he jumps and then slants into you. That is a sweet kick.

  • wow lance lmao your Pro XD

  • yeah that kick is a monster and i like it

  • Oh yeah, his Shin Shoryuken is more powerful than any of Ken's Shoryuken's.

  • maybe it is in the game.. but according to the story its not supposed to be.

  • Capcom likes to contradict themselves. lol.

  • 2nd. if you unlock the hard trials for ken n ryu kens is

    FISTS OF FIRE

    ryus is :

    FISTS OF WIND

    just cuz ken has a dragon punch that is firey doesnt meen he mastered it..

    kens dragon punch is fire

    ryus is wind/elecricity

  • okay i just had to say this look at Gouken Shinryuken does its have the Glow like Bruce leroy no lol no flames and look at the damage on that joint thats how a 3 hit Dp is suppose to look

  • I'm sorry but you're wrong. They both perfected it, Ken just improved it. lol.