Pacific Electric Red Car

[atlboy82]

I hope they can expand this line to Cabrillo or Point Fermin

[bigsilverdaddy58]

PE failed because Huntington would not keep it in repair...it literally fell to pieces..

GM kinda pushed it into its grave..PE was not a publicly owned system

We still travel the same routes the old PE travelled..overlay the old system routes with the new freeway system..its almost a true fit

[singwith]

@bigsilverdaddy58 To me, it's all about Oil VS Electric. After the oil discovered in LA, the game changed.

[zipper179]

When those bribe-taking boneheads at City Hall did away with the 'Red Car', they threw multitudes of people where I lived out of work..

[chetirepyat]

Boston has an extensive public transit system which includes PCC cars and 12 commuter rail lines.

[pschaida]

Oh Good Grief.... You're all misinformed! Nobody Rode the Red Cars. With insufficient ridershp, there was no money to upgrade the routes, maintain or modernize the equipment. The system was privately owned, heavily taxed. The PE lost money most of the years it was in operation. It's a pity! It was one of the most efficient urban transportation systems in the world. There is no real conspiracy here. The Public preference for cars put it out of business, not GM, BIG OIL, or BIG Rubber.

[DaygoJer]

The City of Los Angeles made a huge and devastating mistake to remove their public transit in the past... It's time to go back and turn to mass transit, its faster and cheaper...look at thriving cities like Chicago, New York City and San Francisco... Los Angeles has the potential, but their mass transit is weak.

[singwith]

@DaygoJer Not their mistake. It was by National City Lines.

[hotters7060]

@DaygoJer They should have left things the way they were before because it was more convenient! Politicians always think that they rule the world! They do nothing but destroy everything that is good! Now with the freeways there is more traffic and more frustration! Now Los Angeles mass transit system is weak! When I find a good job and have enough money I am moving back to New York City! I will never come back here again!

[DaygoJer]

@hotters7060

i agree that they should have left things alone... but at that time cars was seen as "the way of the future" and at that time suburbs and la was a city of the future... but look at it now haha they were wrong.. ppl wanna move back into the city.

Los Angeles had one of the most complex mass transit system in the past that rivaled new york's.. but la fcuked up. san diego did the exact same thing, removed their street cars that extended all the way to balboa park

[hotters7060]

@DaygoJer That is the reason why I would rather move back to New York City! New York City is my favorite city in the world! They have a better transit system over there! Besides I don't really like street cars! I like trains that are long like Amtrak, Union Pacific, Santa Fe Railway and the New York City subway trains! I only like long trains! I don't like street cars!

[DaygoJer]

@hotters7060

well LA has those long trains also and a subway believe it or not, but its still growing, not as extensive as nyc's

Los Angeles and New York City are my two most favorite cities in the world. for their pros and cons you just gotta love em... LA and NY traffic, frustrating and annoying but its what makes that city what it is today and somewhat makes it a vibrant and busy on-the-go city. or from ny bluntness and attitude to LA's materialism and road rage. you gotta love the culture

[singwith]

@jojopuppyfish I guess you got your answer already? :)

[jojopuppyfish]

@singwith I forgot that they put one in San Pedro. They also have one in Perris, CA

[emforty2]

GM crushed all the Red Cars

it even crushed all its EV-1 Electric cars claiming theres no market for them

yet TESLA Motors sell all the $110,000 electric cars they produce

[brothaincali2]

GM alway messing up something senice they been in business i would say

[poseidoncambria]

Lets make GM expand that little Red Car Line all across LA with their stupid bailout money! Make them pay for the rail systems in which they shut down!

[singwith]

PE became history and now GM needs to go for goooood.

[no1reallycaresabout]

Well, there are some good people in GM who care for this type of stuff and the environment and want to build the electric cars, it's some of those people on the executive board of GM that give this company bad name!

[no1reallycaresabout]

Oh yeah, great video, singwith! When and what company built the original Pacific Electric trolleys, and when and what company made the replicas of the Pacific Electric trolleys?

[no1reallycaresabout]

Also, even some of the people on the director board at GM wanted to build and sell electric cars!!!

[socalltd]

GM is state run know, lets see all the new CAFE mandated Government Motors models president O wants us to drive now to be green... thats karma.

[no1reallycaresabout]

Right now GM is trying to act like a green company, but it hasn't been. I mean, it killed off most of the tram systems in America and it also killed the electric automobile. I mean, they took the electric auto they manufactured from owners who wanted to keep it just to scrap it in the desert!

But, I'm not saying everyone in GM is bad. I mean, I bet their designers and engineers would love to build this car and sell it. It is the fault of the top executives!!

[singwith]

GM also killed their own EV1! :(

[no1reallycaresabout]

I know, it stinks!

[singwith]

Yea, now their turn to cry a while!

[no1reallycaresabout]

To think, they (GM, Standard Oil, Phillips Petroleum, and Firestone) bought up the tram systems in American cities through National City Lines and got rid of most of them, and now cities are paying like 20 something million dollars to build electric light rail transit lines. If they had just kept the tram systems, all they would have to do is upgrade the track and and get new rolling stock, and reroute the tracks, instead of having to build an entirely new system just from scrap.

[dontwalkhand]

I say bring back any type of rail whatsoever, I am tired of how GM screwed over transit in the United States.

[singwith]

GM or oil company.

[dontwalkhand]

Research "GM Streetcar conspiracy"

[extremebella14]

Hello, I volunteer for the OERHS (Oregon Electric Railway Historical Society.) The general manager of the society is obsessed with the Pacific Electric railway, and so am I!

[singwith]

Thanks! I love PE(Pacific Electric" too! I don't know anything about the OERHS but City of Portland has street cars and Steam loco, "4449'!

[denny906]

This should be extended all over the Port of Los Angeles.

[singwith]

I heard they are going to extend to the beach down there.

[singwith]

Yea, I agree. San Pedro did great job for bringing back the red car! I hope the line extend to the north near future!

[UFOHaiti]

bring these back to da STREETS OF LA

[singwith]

Yea, that come true!

[stoogeswoman]

Cool! What year was this?

[singwith]

2007!