yeah, how much money did they waste on that shit... hard to imagine. and just think about poor beggars russkies trying to keep the pace, spending everything they have to build war toys destined to rust to dust.
my father a drafted marine marched into the trenches in the nevada test site at ground zero human gunnie pigged nucke in 1954 40,000 atomic vetrans all died of lukemia everyone, I was born in 1960, his sperm and croms ragging with radation plutonuim, now at 51 I have lueukemia aml fighting for my life in a bone marrow transpalnt center in Utah, none of the atomic verans recived one penney or andy metal they where murdered . period fucing murder, now they attmeped to kill me before my birth
Imagine if this money was spent on schools, roads, feeding people......... Every loses and gets nothing out of this. Only military contractors benefit. Sad. I know America needs defenses but to me it just seems like so much money being wasted could be spent on things that would benefit everyone.
@calgarywarmfloors only military contractors benefit? you are so wrong! from all the engineers to suppliers, to schools & colleges, they all benefited. if the US didn't spend all that money over all those years, you whole life would be completely different today. from satellites, jet engines, microwave ovens,cell phones, to the very computer you are using is all because of money spent on defense. the list goes on and on. so much science is funded by defense. not wasted at all.
Uhhh correct me if I'm being stupid but why would someone put music to a video that is classified? If its declassified then it had to be classified at one point
@Dominoes282 They original footage was classified. then when declassified. it was slightly edited from military educational use to be able to be archived and viewed by anyone. I be-leave, don't quote me.
@Dominoes282 Look at almost any US Government film from that era, even internal DoD, Army, Navy, etc. videos - they all have ridiculous canned musical accompaniment. Just the way they did it back then.
There is one good thread of news, though, the same labs, Lawrence, Sandia, and others that can do the stuff like smashing atoms at each other in a laboratory are applying the same science to find cures for AIDS, etc. The same radioactive measurement stuff has also been a forensic tool to bust criminals. Most of these designs were for fighting the Eastern Bloc Nations (Soviets and "friends" in Europe). Its the egghead physics geeks with fundamentalist proclivities I worry about.
I'm much more worried about ignorant, mentally retarded, overbearing cowboys with nuclear weapons, every decade seeking (and finding by means of imagination and paranoia) for a new imaginary iteration of medieval witches to take to the bonfire. Having started the nuclear age just with war in mind, maybe this is a fair price to pay in compensation. Fuck the world? Then the world fucks you... xD
Truly a fascinating view of operations - training is so important to correct operations. This can be an something of an object lesson to designers of complex systems.
I had a colleague who was onboard a Navy cruiser in the Vietnam War. They fired a Talos missile (non-nuclear) at a North Vietnamese Mig; the missile caught with the aircraft just as it was landing at its airfield a 100 miles away! These missiles had "long-legs."
i would have just fired everything at will at anyone who looked at my ship funny rather than go through all this shit for each missile all the time.
that's why we keep having wars - people just want to get rid of all these bombs and shit all over the damn place that they have to hoist over there and elevate over there and then track to that deck and winch onto that rail and nobody wants to deal with all that shit.
I served on the Little Rock CLG4 in the 70s, as a Talos guidance radar tech. At the time, the cold war was real and several wars were fought, proxy wars by countries that the U.S. and U.S.S.R. allied with. Since the end of the cold war, we continue to fund the military as if we are still threatened by another super power, which we are not. We waste copious sums of money on super weapons of Armageddon-like capabilities, for no good reason.
Where did the Soviet nukes go? They haven't been disassembled. They would seem, therefore, to pose a threat still -- if they have been maintained. I would wager that at least some, if not most, of them are still viable; it would be foolish to spend the money to develop and field the weapons and not maintain them -- nukes give the biggest bang for the buck.
@EdWatts Yes they do give a big 'bang for buck' but that is not necessarily the best criteria for choosing or maintaining a weapons system. The use of nuclear weapons is taboo, and would bring severe reprisals for any regime that utilised their power in anger.
What's the point? It's a loose/loose scenario in terms of ecology, humanity and morality.
@agwhitaker yes, but this would have been one of a few ships. Also, you got to remember, this was the most advanced and fast technology at the time. This was the fastest they had ever imagined things cold be loaded.
To much to go wrong. The rate of fire must have been slow. The ship would have been in trouble if it had multiple threats coming from several directions.
But nowadays with Aegis and V.LS. it is much more streamlined. Identify a target, select , tune, and launch a suitable missile. None of this assembly and loading stuff anymore.
This looks like a very, very bad design. So many places where things can go wrong. If just one stage of the chain breaks the whole system will break down
@lmlove80 If you think about it, it was a perfect system but not how the designers officially intended it to be.
In realistic scenario only two nuclear missiles would have been ever fired, ships lacking working guidance radars end equipment after 1st exchange (yet still afloat for a long time).
At the same time the system limits the number of the armed nuclear missiles aboard the ship.
Imagine Tico with 32 hypothetical armed SM3-N. If fire aboard, despite all protecting, something could blast.
@captiannn: It was written especially for these movies, mainly. You could call it Cold War Bravado, I suppose. Imagine writing and orchestrating, or even playing, music which disappeared into the DoD and was never heard again by the people who made it.
when they tested trinity they didnt know if it would ignite the atmosphere and kill all life on earth or just wipe new mexico of the map theres a nice thought
I can't tell you how strange watching this is. When I was aboard the Long Beach during the 70s you had to have a security clearance to get into the missle house. We were not to talk about the weapons even to the other members of the crew unless they had a clearance and were involved in work relating to the system. The only reason I knew about them was I was on the fire party on the ship. It was necessary for the job. Now here it is on the internet. How strange this feels.
@moas101 I know what you mean. I was in the Navy during the 80's and they never told us anything about what we were doing. I was always on the fire party, my ship was stationed at Pearl Harbor. The times I knew we were loading up nukes was when I saw the Marine guards wearing film badges, other times they were not. I never imagined there would be anything like public access videos about this stuff.
@1027sterling You did not have the proper PRP clearance...we of the Submarine Service used nukes as furniture. But of course, we were NOT expendable like a surface ship.
@moas101 Hey, I was on board from '88-'91. I feel the same way, I was an ST so I had some knowledge of what was up. It wasn't too hard to figure out, Marines guarding some Mag's and not others is sort of a give away even if you're not involved. lol
@mhia4 millions of americans were (and still are) wasting they time in stupid military operations. Serving on board useless ships doing useless stuff and poisoning people and environment (radioactive stuff does that).
When will you learn to spend your time and energy on something else ?
if you actually want to see this missle system first hand go to buffalo new york....the uss little rock is the only ship that yoou can tour that has this syatem installed
the mother of all planed obsolecence... and a few got real rich with this killing crap, & they will get even richer repairing the damage. Thing is who pays to make this all possilbe? as if there is nothing better to create with your collective efforts that would serve your survival in the least ? the new rome has fallen into its' ways.
To think that all kinds of money from taxpayers were wasted on bombs, procedures, equipment, and soldiers that were never used in any nuclear event, by ANY country... it is such a shame that today we are so broke....serves us right in a way. Poor homosapien, how are you gonna manage to solve this one???
They were a great success, so far. The fact that no one has tried to use one since WWII is a testimony to this. They were not a waste of money. The irony is that the FEWER nukes you have the more destabilizing they are. At this point no one would consider nuclear war with us, but if you start to reduce the number of nukes at some point some 'leader' somewhere will get the idea they just might be able to win a nuke war. It is actually a good idea to have enough nukes to commit overkill!
@navyboydjray - it still is. We're seeing the logical extension of what people were "conned" into back then. The destruction of American manufacture and infrastructure, and the rise of a super-elite class that has nearly infinite political power. Although, it could be argued that they had America in a vice-like-grip since the Kennedy Assassination(s). The banks have made the economy a game of musical chairs. Which country will get stuck "owing" all that money? Who will bail them out?
yeah, how much money did they waste on that shit... hard to imagine. and just think about poor beggars russkies trying to keep the pace, spending everything they have to build war toys destined to rust to dust.
justiakas 1 week ago
at that time, US Have TALOS, Russian have LUNA, same concept of missile but LUNA launch from the ground.
declaration963 1 month ago
My father worked on Talos Missiles on the USS Longbeach
SWASDN 1 month ago
my father a drafted marine marched into the trenches in the nevada test site at ground zero human gunnie pigged nucke in 1954 40,000 atomic vetrans all died of lukemia everyone, I was born in 1960, his sperm and croms ragging with radation plutonuim, now at 51 I have lueukemia aml fighting for my life in a bone marrow transpalnt center in Utah, none of the atomic verans recived one penney or andy metal they where murdered . period fucing murder, now they attmeped to kill me before my birth
kevindblanch 1 month ago 4
The Booster and Missile are equipped with special Handeling Bands for..."Handeling"....lol
SgtHammer45 1 month ago
Imagine if this money was spent on schools, roads, feeding people......... Every loses and gets nothing out of this. Only military contractors benefit. Sad. I know America needs defenses but to me it just seems like so much money being wasted could be spent on things that would benefit everyone.
calgarywarmfloors 2 months ago
@calgarywarmfloors only military contractors benefit? you are so wrong! from all the engineers to suppliers, to schools & colleges, they all benefited. if the US didn't spend all that money over all those years, you whole life would be completely different today. from satellites, jet engines, microwave ovens,cell phones, to the very computer you are using is all because of money spent on defense. the list goes on and on. so much science is funded by defense. not wasted at all.
sw8741 2 months ago
Uhhh correct me if I'm being stupid but why would someone put music to a video that is classified? If its declassified then it had to be classified at one point
Dominoes282 2 months ago
@Dominoes282 They original footage was classified. then when declassified. it was slightly edited from military educational use to be able to be archived and viewed by anyone. I be-leave, don't quote me.
rtepic 2 months ago
@Dominoes282 Look at almost any US Government film from that era, even internal DoD, Army, Navy, etc. videos - they all have ridiculous canned musical accompaniment. Just the way they did it back then.
wysoft 3 weeks ago
@wysoft That's called stock footage/music, I suppose. Anyway, today's PC made music isn't that much better...
dvamateur 1 week ago
lol. a video tutorial how to build own nuclear bomb
sgrat1984 2 months ago
"Danger explosives. Do not drop" on a nuclear warhead... lol, only in America.
Buuub08 3 months ago 6
my left ear enjoyed it ....
PaperbatVGFAN67 3 months ago 11
There is one good thread of news, though, the same labs, Lawrence, Sandia, and others that can do the stuff like smashing atoms at each other in a laboratory are applying the same science to find cures for AIDS, etc. The same radioactive measurement stuff has also been a forensic tool to bust criminals. Most of these designs were for fighting the Eastern Bloc Nations (Soviets and "friends" in Europe). Its the egghead physics geeks with fundamentalist proclivities I worry about.
mrdennis650 4 months ago
@mrdennis650
I'm much more worried about ignorant, mentally retarded, overbearing cowboys with nuclear weapons, every decade seeking (and finding by means of imagination and paranoia) for a new imaginary iteration of medieval witches to take to the bonfire. Having started the nuclear age just with war in mind, maybe this is a fair price to pay in compensation. Fuck the world? Then the world fucks you... xD
levogiro 4 months ago
Hot Damn. Not as easy as shooting a Tartar missile, for sure.
jim543212 5 months ago
Truly a fascinating view of operations - training is so important to correct operations. This can be an something of an object lesson to designers of complex systems.
I had a colleague who was onboard a Navy cruiser in the Vietnam War. They fired a Talos missile (non-nuclear) at a North Vietnamese Mig; the missile caught with the aircraft just as it was landing at its airfield a 100 miles away! These missiles had "long-legs."
TorrHeadfishing 5 months ago
I have been looking all over for these videos Thank you for the uploads!!!
KC8YOQ 5 months ago
i would have just fired everything at will at anyone who looked at my ship funny rather than go through all this shit for each missile all the time.
that's why we keep having wars - people just want to get rid of all these bombs and shit all over the damn place that they have to hoist over there and elevate over there and then track to that deck and winch onto that rail and nobody wants to deal with all that shit.
replyandyousuckballs 5 months ago
Things you dont want to hear when testing an atomic warhead:
1. Oh Oh!
2. I wonder what the red button if used for?
3. As long it clicks everything is ok.
4. The bloody thing doesnt fit in. Does anyone has a hammer for me?
5. Whoopsi!
captainbackflash 7 months ago
Could you amagine doing all this crap in the heat of battle???????
f3hdemon 7 months ago
@f3hdemon they do it much faster in battle :P
nealshireman 7 months ago
This must have been a high-budget project for it to have its own orchestra!
ianchard 8 months ago
its amazing how far we've come with box launchers.
damaged01 8 months ago
I served on the Little Rock CLG4 in the 70s, as a Talos guidance radar tech. At the time, the cold war was real and several wars were fought, proxy wars by countries that the U.S. and U.S.S.R. allied with. Since the end of the cold war, we continue to fund the military as if we are still threatened by another super power, which we are not. We waste copious sums of money on super weapons of Armageddon-like capabilities, for no good reason.
DanielRCobb 9 months ago
@DanielRCobb
Where did the Soviet nukes go? They haven't been disassembled. They would seem, therefore, to pose a threat still -- if they have been maintained. I would wager that at least some, if not most, of them are still viable; it would be foolish to spend the money to develop and field the weapons and not maintain them -- nukes give the biggest bang for the buck.
EdWatts 7 months ago
@EdWatts Yes they do give a big 'bang for buck' but that is not necessarily the best criteria for choosing or maintaining a weapons system. The use of nuclear weapons is taboo, and would bring severe reprisals for any regime that utilised their power in anger.
What's the point? It's a loose/loose scenario in terms of ecology, humanity and morality.
zekezero12345 7 months ago
@DanielRCobb
We spend money on the military to prop up war industries now, not to protect the USA.
rickcain2320 5 months ago
USS Oklahoma City (CG5) was my first ship, I served onboard from 77-79. I was with Command Seventh Fleet staff communications. Lots of great times!!
AirForce011156 9 months ago
Narrated by Ray Walston of "My Favorite Martian" fame. Or, for you younger kids - the guy who played "Mr Hand" in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
beeroosterm 9 months ago
@agwhitaker yes, but this would have been one of a few ships. Also, you got to remember, this was the most advanced and fast technology at the time. This was the fastest they had ever imagined things cold be loaded.
imapieface 10 months ago
To much to go wrong. The rate of fire must have been slow. The ship would have been in trouble if it had multiple threats coming from several directions.
But nowadays with Aegis and V.LS. it is much more streamlined. Identify a target, select , tune, and launch a suitable missile. None of this assembly and loading stuff anymore.
agwhitaker 10 months ago
An Atomic SAM. God damn.
WolksVagon449 1 year ago
This looks like a very, very bad design. So many places where things can go wrong. If just one stage of the chain breaks the whole system will break down
lmlove80 1 year ago
@lmlove80
H-bombs are multistage
but they are the best thing we got
same goes for this
y512516 1 year ago
@lmlove80 If you think about it, it was a perfect system but not how the designers officially intended it to be.
In realistic scenario only two nuclear missiles would have been ever fired, ships lacking working guidance radars end equipment after 1st exchange (yet still afloat for a long time).
At the same time the system limits the number of the armed nuclear missiles aboard the ship.
Imagine Tico with 32 hypothetical armed SM3-N. If fire aboard, despite all protecting, something could blast.
krbosak 5 months ago
Thanks for posting this video, Talos shot down MiGs & destroyed enemy radar sites in combat, it was very advanced for it's time.
MrWlbblw 1 year ago
what was the music at the intro? what song or what kind of genre is is??
captiannn 1 year ago
@captiannn: It was written especially for these movies, mainly. You could call it Cold War Bravado, I suppose. Imagine writing and orchestrating, or even playing, music which disappeared into the DoD and was never heard again by the people who made it.
puncheex 10 months ago
Think how old this is - imagine what we must have now!
Weenchit 1 year ago
The cold war was not interesting...it was fucking terrifying! we grew up expecting annihilation at any time..no wonder we are all now so fucked up
helstontvx 1 year ago
Jeezuss Christ, son complicated...
kimmer6 1 year ago
when they tested trinity they didnt know if it would ignite the atmosphere and kill all life on earth or just wipe new mexico of the map theres a nice thought
whillythewimp 1 year ago
wow, i never knew inside ships are like work shops! thats some factory shit, production line on sea:D ahaha
sweet video:D
komodius 1 year ago
Could you amagine this complex system in combat! if one tray or rail failed . . . it's all over, thank God for VLS vertical launch missiles.
f3hdemon 1 year ago
I can't tell you how strange watching this is. When I was aboard the Long Beach during the 70s you had to have a security clearance to get into the missle house. We were not to talk about the weapons even to the other members of the crew unless they had a clearance and were involved in work relating to the system. The only reason I knew about them was I was on the fire party on the ship. It was necessary for the job. Now here it is on the internet. How strange this feels.
moas101 1 year ago
@moas101 I know what you mean. I was in the Navy during the 80's and they never told us anything about what we were doing. I was always on the fire party, my ship was stationed at Pearl Harbor. The times I knew we were loading up nukes was when I saw the Marine guards wearing film badges, other times they were not. I never imagined there would be anything like public access videos about this stuff.
1027sterling 1 year ago
@1027sterling You did not have the proper PRP clearance...we of the Submarine Service used nukes as furniture. But of course, we were NOT expendable like a surface ship.
DocWINO100 1 year ago
@moas101
Top secret today, declassified tomorrow.
Just wait till you see what they declassify from tod10 years or so.
SCARY stuff these days we have.
xeronicus 1 year ago
@moas101 Hey, I was on board from '88-'91. I feel the same way, I was an ST so I had some knowledge of what was up. It wasn't too hard to figure out, Marines guarding some Mag's and not others is sort of a give away even if you're not involved. lol
Fair winds
mhia4 10 months ago
@mhia4 millions of americans were (and still are) wasting they time in stupid military operations. Serving on board useless ships doing useless stuff and poisoning people and environment (radioactive stuff does that).
When will you learn to spend your time and energy on something else ?
nikos4free 9 months ago
Lolz..soo.. there are like 17 Nuclear bombs on that ship?
What if a soviet plane or bomber drops a bomb on that ship xP
13Psycho13 1 year ago
@13Psycho13 the scene would be spectacular if a nuclear submarine or carrier get hit. mushroom cloud and everything around it would be toast.
plutone220696 1 year ago
if you actually want to see this missle system first hand go to buffalo new york....the uss little rock is the only ship that yoou can tour that has this syatem installed
steams50187 1 year ago
sweet Jesus imagine one of those things going of next to you i imagine it would get very scary then very quiet and dark
unclesamshat 1 year ago
Yep, the might of the military industrial complex. Eisenhower was right.
spencnaz 1 year ago
kids today are so far removed from the cold war... it's weird to have to explain it to them
reedyjt 1 year ago
Oh, boy!!! Oscar Meyer!!
hefflewis 2 years ago
the mother of all planed obsolecence... and a few got real rich with this killing crap, & they will get even richer repairing the damage. Thing is who pays to make this all possilbe? as if there is nothing better to create with your collective efforts that would serve your survival in the least ? the new rome has fallen into its' ways.
docatomics 2 years ago
i love how they neatly put all sorts of hardware on that blue table to make it look nice and fancy at 01:33 lol
ActiveStorage 2 years ago
Error! The United-States is the only country that has used nuclear weapons against a populated city. 2 times.
1XGTR 2 years ago
Hiroshima and Nagasaki....
L3G3nD0001 1 year ago
To think that all kinds of money from taxpayers were wasted on bombs, procedures, equipment, and soldiers that were never used in any nuclear event, by ANY country... it is such a shame that today we are so broke....serves us right in a way. Poor homosapien, how are you gonna manage to solve this one???
lexcorona85 2 years ago
They were a great success, so far. The fact that no one has tried to use one since WWII is a testimony to this. They were not a waste of money. The irony is that the FEWER nukes you have the more destabilizing they are. At this point no one would consider nuclear war with us, but if you start to reduce the number of nukes at some point some 'leader' somewhere will get the idea they just might be able to win a nuke war. It is actually a good idea to have enough nukes to commit overkill!
jnichols3 1 year ago 3
Amazing stuff. The cold war was a very interesting time in history.
navyboydjray 2 years ago 54
@navyboydjray - it still is. We're seeing the logical extension of what people were "conned" into back then. The destruction of American manufacture and infrastructure, and the rise of a super-elite class that has nearly infinite political power. Although, it could be argued that they had America in a vice-like-grip since the Kennedy Assassination(s). The banks have made the economy a game of musical chairs. Which country will get stuck "owing" all that money? Who will bail them out?
FooFooTheClown 7 months ago
@navyboydjray and a scary one at that
DragonSlayer3020 5 months ago
No wonder this stuff is so expensive.
BrotherDevious 3 years ago 24
You go, Talos!
Best part is seeing the sailors attach the missile fins right before launch--almost comical!
voiceonthehill 3 years ago
Whats so comical about it? It was a system and it worked.
JetMechMA 2 years ago