This was such an utter waste of a movie. 600 people on a goofball planet? The hell with them all. This planet had nothing to do with anything, and this trailer stretches the plot to make any of it appear interesting enough to waste a ticket on.
Every TNG movie was just a glorified episode. With First Contact being the only one good enough to make us not notice.
This movie was definitely the second best TNG movie (second of course to First Contact) simply because it was the only one that actually felt like TNG. The only problem was it just could have been a bit bigger in scope. It ended up feeling more like a really good two-parter rather than a movie.
@pinoi78 That would have been another action movie. True Star Trek Fans dont want action movies, they want star trek movies. Movies about moral values, ideals and stuff like that. DS9 was good, but there is no need to do a whole movie on the Dominion War.
i love this one. such an interesting story. i love how it forces picard to go against his career obligation of following starfleet orders and going with his gut and sticking to his own morals.
this movie was shit.This is set during the dominion war where we were getting our asses handed. remember that episode journey's end with the fucking native americans they just told them to get the fuck off the planet cuz we need it same principle cept the villagers are all white.Federation needs those rings to help out the troops so picard's dumb ass was making shit worse 4 sisko and the other allies."needs of the many outwigh the needs of the few or the one" definely needed to be applied here
I initially hated this movie when I first saw it in theaters, but the more I watch it, the better I realize the story actually is...it's now one of my favorites of the series
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I think the problem a lot of people had with it though, is that it felt more like a large extended episode of TNG than a movie. It didn't have the same "epic" scope and feel that the other movies had.
@quarf53206 We don't know how many arrived originally- it might have only been a few-, they probably experienced a significant population drop when the So'na left, and with them all being virtually immortal they wouldn't want to have TOO many children too fast in case rapid population growth damaged the natural beauty they prize so highly
The Admiral says, we are only moving 600 people, and Picard, asks "How many people does it take, before it becomes wrong?" He then says a few numbers increasing as he goes, and get's to "a million..." and then he shouts "How many people does, it take, Admiral?!"
I think this movie is underrated. It is second best out of the TNG movies IMO- First Contact is best, this comes second. I like it because it's not depressing or as dark as the other ones (Nemesis, Generations to a point) and has some good moral themes.
If i'm to believe anything legit about Nemesis, then why all the scenes preceding the battle showing Enterprise crew members scanning for weaknesses on the Scimatar. Wouldn't the analysis show that Phasers would bounce off the Scimatar, which they did. At the end of the first volley between Ent and Scimatar, the Enterprise has a lock on the Scimatar and a volley of 15 Quantum Torpedoes could mess up the Scimatar. Everything was written backwards.
I wish the Enterprise versus Sona Ships engagement was alot longer. I was so disappointed how short it was particularily when the Enterprise versus Scimatar matchup was so one sided. What I couldn't stand about that battle was the entire battle was directed to have a scene for Troi, and to have the Enterprise damaged so bad that raming the Scimatar was the only way to inflict damage.
I think this movie came the closest to seeing the real Riker. Instead of focusing on plasma coils, plasma coils, see Red Letter Media's review on Star Trek Generations, he actually did in this movie what I expected him to do in the series. Take educated risks and call it how he saw it during the Sona attack on the Enterprise. The Star Trek Generations Riker during the Klingon attack wouldn't have turned the Enterprise's primary weapons array away from the Klingon Ship.
600 people? Why not just leave them alone and USE THE REST OF THE FUCKING PLANET!? Instead they are trying to harvest the rejuvenating particles and making the place uninhabitable... That makes no damn sense.
@schnubbel76 Yeah but I find the 6 formers films better (with Kirk). But Picard is good too =) (Sorry for my bad english, I'm french (you know, the people who have the most pitiful football team ever xD))
Kirk & Co. are classic Trek forever, no match for Picard, so you can't compare them. What i wanted to say is, that this movie is like back to the roots back to Roddenberrys idea. Questions about ethic and morality are more intense here than in First Contact for example (wich is also a brilliant movie). Sry for my english too, i'm german (you know, the ppl with best footballteam ever, even if we didn't win worldchampionship. xD) oh i can almost hear the comments from britain now... ;)
@schnubbel76: The best star treks are the search for spock, wrath of khan and the voyage home, i cant pick a winner. srry for my english, im english (you know, the ppl who who never stop talking about winning the world cup 45 years ago) :-)
I did not get the movie that much, the point of the movie was just scrambled all over the place. this is probably my least favorite next to star trek I
this is one of my favorite next gen movies ^_^ speically since picard defies orders and fights to save a civilization and as the trailer said "who the HELL are we to determine next course of evolutino for people?"
the prime directive is to not get invovled with the evoloution of a species or something like that :) the needs of the many is one of spock's logic sayings
If the idea is that the Federation's plan to relocate the Ba'ku against their will to make use of their planet's healing properties is a violation of everything the Federation holds dear, then why move them at all? The film makes clear that there's only six hundred of them, on a planet large enough to have a complex ring system; isn't there enough room for everyone to share?
@oiramldx Dude not to mention that Picard defying the federation is totally out of character. Even though I acknowledge that it wouldn't happen. Picard ignores one of the facets of the prime directive. "The Needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few." So all in all everything in this movie doesn't make sense. I really enjoyed it but I know there are a LOT of plot holes.
"The Needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few." is not part of Primary Directive (maybe Romulans directive, but not Federation). Most important quote is when Picard reply to Admiral with words: "How many peoples takes to become wrong?". Actually, crew actions save the soul of the Federation.
Are the Ba'ku so selfish that they won't allow anyone else on their planet for any reasons? If so, aren't they the ones the Federation should be dealing with, instead of wasting time and energy jumping into bed with someone else? Also, if you're going to call a film Insurrection, then the revolt in question should be far more epic than shooting down a few robot drones with phaser rifles The writing is so unimaginative that even the usually reliable cast seems rather bored with the material
That is because it was nothing more than giant 2hr. episode. Still good, but among the lesser in the ST canon. I would love to see another one, but the IDIOTS killed off Data.
I didn't like this movie...mainly because I felt like it was all over the place in terms of plot. WHat was the point? WAS there a point? If I had to pick between Insurrection and Nemesis, I'd go with Nemesis every time.
What do you mean? This movie was most faithful to what Gene Rodenberry had written. Beside that, the storyline was good, the humor was the best, the dialogs were good, the action could be better, but overall it was the best. But that's my opinion of course. Why do you think it's so bad?
@vtecivicsib18 that would be hilarious, kmg4 is probably like the simpsons "comic book guy" and he would give commentary on his own ass-kicking (until he realizes that he is talking about himself)
@80smusicfanNO1 Don't worry,they'll make a new series...what with renewed interest after the Star Trek movie....but I never lost interest in ST...its great entertaiment and has a great message about the future
In the previous flick, Picard camps up the prime directive. Here, "Insurrection" wants to take the notion seriously, but fails. Mostly because the writers had to go from the Admiral's "All of starfleet cmd is behind this" to "Daugherty and the other few who started this are now in jail". They couldn't find a way to really make the concept work. (never try to be big when the movie directly ties in to two currently running tv shows at the same time, oops.)
@ForeverStarTrek I think he would've loved the way the film returns Trek to its morally challenging roots, but I think he would've disliked the fact that a Starfleet Admiral seemed to abandon the Prime Directive
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please no one get mad or try to convince me why I should hate this movie (because this is my personal opinion and I'm not changing it) but I enjoyed this movie and thought it was great. On tv or in a movie it still teaches a lesson and it just overall cool (in my opinion.)
I hear ya. You know what? It kind of reminds me, a bit, of the Palestinians who were relocated after the U.N. permitted the Israel to become a modern nation. There are a lot of parallels. Where was The Federation on that one, I wonder?
and yet the Israilites were originally in that region a long long time ago before being defeated and their land taken, so it's hard to say, but as I said before it's a shame that peaceful coexistance isn't an option.
You don't have to like someone to treat them civily.
I totally agree with everything that you just said, with one exception. I am not certain that the Israelis were the original inhabitants of that land that is today called Israel and Palestine. I would state, with more certainty, that Semitic peoples were most likely the original inhabitants of that land, but I cannot say with certainty that they were the Israelis. I totally agree with the rest. I like the way that you think.
well the religion I believe in (I don't even think of it as a religion I just think of it as the truth) is Christianity, and I believe that God had given the Israelites (israelis) that land, and the funny thing is whenever they stopped listening to God someone came and took over them.
Anyway as far as what godzilla said, everyone breaks rules, even America, the trick is not to get caught doing it, which is what governments would try to do if they break a rule. I'm not against america though.
Why would you make a Star Trek movie based on the Prime Directive. We've already saw that in a lot of the Star Trek episodes from the original and TNG.
Maybe it has a greater social implication? Perhaps it is an allegory for our own systems of government and laws that we hold so dear, yet continually violate when it suits us to do so? Maybe that is the reason? Because it happens more often that most of us wish to admit to, as well as watch?
yeah you're right we often make rules and say we'll follow them, but only when it's convenient for us. As far as the whole Israel/Palestinian thing, it's too bad they can't just coexist isn't it? I mean it all leads back to their descendents and stuff, but they keep the grudge going.
It could be just like insurrection. If the Federation peacefully asked to send people to the planet too (and coexist with the inhabitants already there) I bet it would have worked out fine.
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No. It's just a bad movie to the core. Made no sense, sense they done it in the episodes.
And just to let you know America doesn't violate it's own laws to suite it's own needs. America has to defend itself from bad people wanted to kill Americans.
I can't argue against your opinion, or personal truth regarding the movie. That's for sure. I mean, I made my observation, as well. Right? Those are personal truths. We each find what we find in any creative work and it isn't always the same each time we experience it, or when someone else does. It is subjective. We may even have differing opinions than the director, or writer. Whatever. When it comes to the part about America, I'm an American and I've seen enough to question your perspective.
You did make your own observations. But look I'm also America to you know so when it comes to violating it's own laws America has to sacrifice a lot to keep it's citizens like me and you safe. I'm sorry that you feel like America has turned you down.
this was a million times better than nemesis its such a shame there final film was so crap stuart baird should never have got the directors job for that film it needed to be epic in scale with cameo roles for the ds9 and voyger crews in a gigantic battle to save the universe from the mirror universe! mind the film would have to be 3 hours long ha ha . patrick stuart should have played both roles to make nemesis look a bit better how can you be bald from youth :)
this is my fav star trek movie right next to star trek 2 the wrath of khan. but data gives me a hedache whenever he talks because he uses so many big words that confuse me.
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and thats the only thing they contributed to the universe... its cheesy as hell, its plum retarded in comparison to tng. The basic fact is that kirk fought monsters, picard battled quantum physics, time problems, genocide.... its apparent why you like the pre-school version of star trek.... its easy for you to comprehend, dipshit.
have you noticed that your boobs have started to firm up?
NickoRules17 1 day ago
Here is my ranking of ST TNG movies:
1. First Contact
2. Generations
3. Nemesis
4. Insurrection
Revoltingmachine 1 month ago
All the Next Generations movies were good in my opinion but Frist Contact was the best, and Nemesis would be my second favorite.
mikeface1 1 month ago
I liked this movie honestly it was kind hoaky or whatever but it was pretty good.. I give it a 3 out of 5
LazyNightz 1 month ago
This was such an utter waste of a movie. 600 people on a goofball planet? The hell with them all. This planet had nothing to do with anything, and this trailer stretches the plot to make any of it appear interesting enough to waste a ticket on.
Every TNG movie was just a glorified episode. With First Contact being the only one good enough to make us not notice.
SpreadingtheMuse 2 months ago
i think i liked this movie because it showed that the federation had its dark side
sarek63 3 months ago
I love the part where Riker controls Enterprise with a joystick!
HelmutVillam 3 months ago
@HelmutVillam Also we haven't seen Riker without his beard since the first season of Star Trek The Next Generation.
77J 2 weeks ago
saddle up, lock and load
love it
GuitarHeroRockStar98 3 months ago
This movie was definitely the second best TNG movie (second of course to First Contact) simply because it was the only one that actually felt like TNG. The only problem was it just could have been a bit bigger in scope. It ended up feeling more like a really good two-parter rather than a movie.
Still WAAAY better than Nemesis.
BULLSHIT1173 3 months ago
This movie was semi-decent, but nothing brilliant. First Contact was 20x better.
SFisher1993 4 months ago
No beard? D:
JakeTSnake7 4 months ago
Yeah this movie does suck but I do like it, maybe because I have a soft spot for all things 1998
CaptainGinyu 5 months ago 2
I thought this movie sucked, and then I saw Nemesis and it doesn't seem so terrible now.
mustang6172 6 months ago
@mustang6172 Nemesis wasn't that bad
elcap22 5 months ago
loved this movie but we all knew NOTHING was going to beat First Contact when it came to TNG movies
NotIn3D 7 months ago
1.27... Lolz! I love star trek. :D
raelynn82 7 months ago
Book for the newest trek movie
isaiahawsum 7 months ago
@biped19 they actually resurrected data using a backup of his neural pathways and b4's body. They mention it in the prequel b
isaiahawsum 7 months ago
Dougherty was right.
TazG2000 8 months ago
Picard for prez in 2012
lowaces 8 months ago
Stark Trek IX SHOULD have been about the Picard and company during the Dominion War.
But nooooooooooooooooooooo. Berman and Braga had to release this stinking turd.
pinoi78 10 months ago 2
@pinoi78 That would have been another action movie. True Star Trek Fans dont want action movies, they want star trek movies. Movies about moral values, ideals and stuff like that. DS9 was good, but there is no need to do a whole movie on the Dominion War.
2LucasKane3 8 months ago
Maybe they could call the sequel Star Trek: His Errection
Hur Hur Hur
funkydanieluk 10 months ago 10
i love this one. such an interesting story. i love how it forces picard to go against his career obligation of following starfleet orders and going with his gut and sticking to his own morals.
awestcody 10 months ago 2
Worst Star Trek movie.
soadpwnsyou 11 months ago
@soadpwnsyou I disagree, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier would be that. As for Next Generation movies, it would have to be Star Trek: Generations.
LordDavid04 11 months ago 2
I thought this would have made a better episode than a movie.
supercdjones 11 months ago 2
lol Data "Saddle up, Lock and Load" fuck yh
ironhidewatson 1 year ago 3
i love data
grenadiansbybirth 1 year ago
this movie was shit.This is set during the dominion war where we were getting our asses handed. remember that episode journey's end with the fucking native americans they just told them to get the fuck off the planet cuz we need it same principle cept the villagers are all white.Federation needs those rings to help out the troops so picard's dumb ass was making shit worse 4 sisko and the other allies."needs of the many outwigh the needs of the few or the one" definely needed to be applied here
gsnake007 1 year ago
@gsnake007 spoken like a true corporatist
rad4life1 1 year ago
Great movie.
TheLegolasguy 1 year ago
I HEART DATA
TheApostle344 1 year ago
Avatar ripped off this movie's story!
JarodRussell 1 year ago 4
@JarodRussell yes, you're right. Avatar took this history!
EmperorCoyote 1 year ago
@EmperorCoyote Actually, Avatar is a rip-off of Ferngully
rad4life1 1 year ago 2
I initially hated this movie when I first saw it in theaters, but the more I watch it, the better I realize the story actually is...it's now one of my favorites of the series
Maestro80sMusic 1 year ago 2
Yaaay, Riker shaved!!
maryfaceeggo 1 year ago
Great performance from F. Murray Abraham.
bobgrantsbus 1 year ago
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All credit to Channel 4(Television channel in Britain) to have shown all the feature films from the Motion Picture 1979 to "Nemesis" 2003 on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
Now this weekend, they are showing them all 10 films over 2 days!!!!
theman2017inc 1 year ago
@quantum460 it was mentioned in one episode of DS9
CIarKent 1 year ago
@quantum460 the Sona were allies of the Dominion and helped the dominion make the drug for the Jem'Hadar soldiers
CIarKent 1 year ago
I enjoyed this one too.
I think the problem a lot of people had with it though, is that it felt more like a large extended episode of TNG than a movie. It didn't have the same "epic" scope and feel that the other movies had.
Trelawney50 1 year ago 2
@Trelawney50 thank god for that!
TheReparedWings 1 year ago
how come there were only 600 of them. they had been around for how long
quarf53206 1 year ago
@quarf53206 We don't know how many arrived originally- it might have only been a few-, they probably experienced a significant population drop when the So'na left, and with them all being virtually immortal they wouldn't want to have TOO many children too fast in case rapid population growth damaged the natural beauty they prize so highly
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quarf53206 1 year ago
@MarcusSLazarus but they had been there for hundreds of years
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Hello!
What does Picard say in the Justice Debate Scene ("How many people does, it take, Admiral??")
Picard: And it will destroy the Ba´ku. Just as cultures have been destroyed in every ____ forced relocation throughout history.
Could someone help me with the gap?
ApartGentleman 1 year ago
@ApartGentleman That's about it.
The Admiral says, we are only moving 600 people, and Picard, asks "How many people does it take, before it becomes wrong?" He then says a few numbers increasing as he goes, and get's to "a million..." and then he shouts "How many people does, it take, Admiral?!"
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ApartGentleman 1 year ago
LOL for data 1:37
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Best of the TNG movies, best villain since Khan
Bradical26 1 year ago
Best of the TNG movies, best villan since Khan
Bradical26 1 year ago
@Bradical26 id have to say first contact is :)
MissWhiate 1 year ago
I think this movie is underrated. It is second best out of the TNG movies IMO- First Contact is best, this comes second. I like it because it's not depressing or as dark as the other ones (Nemesis, Generations to a point) and has some good moral themes.
Robotdrummerzzk 1 year ago
If i'm to believe anything legit about Nemesis, then why all the scenes preceding the battle showing Enterprise crew members scanning for weaknesses on the Scimatar. Wouldn't the analysis show that Phasers would bounce off the Scimatar, which they did. At the end of the first volley between Ent and Scimatar, the Enterprise has a lock on the Scimatar and a volley of 15 Quantum Torpedoes could mess up the Scimatar. Everything was written backwards.
dfr2221 1 year ago
I wish the Enterprise versus Sona Ships engagement was alot longer. I was so disappointed how short it was particularily when the Enterprise versus Scimatar matchup was so one sided. What I couldn't stand about that battle was the entire battle was directed to have a scene for Troi, and to have the Enterprise damaged so bad that raming the Scimatar was the only way to inflict damage.
dfr2221 1 year ago
if you love it that's cool but I really feel it is the worst ....maybe not just not the first one I re-watch
chrisfischerxxx 1 year ago
I think this movie came the closest to seeing the real Riker. Instead of focusing on plasma coils, plasma coils, see Red Letter Media's review on Star Trek Generations, he actually did in this movie what I expected him to do in the series. Take educated risks and call it how he saw it during the Sona attack on the Enterprise. The Star Trek Generations Riker during the Klingon attack wouldn't have turned the Enterprise's primary weapons array away from the Klingon Ship.
dfr2221 1 year ago
600 people? Why not just leave them alone and USE THE REST OF THE FUCKING PLANET!? Instead they are trying to harvest the rejuvenating particles and making the place uninhabitable... That makes no damn sense.
EscpdFrmPsykward 1 year ago
@EscpdFrmPsykward Because the Son'A are already too sick - they need to go to those lengths to survive. Add revenge and stir.
Bradical26 1 year ago
@EscpdFrmPsykward I think it actually mentions that in the movie. The explanation is something like, it takes a decade to take effect or something.
boeingbloke777 1 year ago
The BEST of the Star Trek movies.
Sexton317 1 year ago
Good movie
Machodork 1 year ago
ok movie first contact is better
SaucyPro 1 year ago 26
This seemed like more of an episode than a movie. Generations and First Contact are still my favorite.
RedDawnJensen 1 year ago
Still my most favourite star trek sotry!
collinsproduction 1 year ago
"Definitely feeling aggressive tendencies sir!"
tubamanRW 1 year ago
this movie is so underrated. this ist star trek at its best
schnubbel76 1 year ago
@schnubbel76 Yeah but I find the 6 formers films better (with Kirk). But Picard is good too =) (Sorry for my bad english, I'm french (you know, the people who have the most pitiful football team ever xD))
Owny33 1 year ago
@Owny33
Kirk & Co. are classic Trek forever, no match for Picard, so you can't compare them. What i wanted to say is, that this movie is like back to the roots back to Roddenberrys idea. Questions about ethic and morality are more intense here than in First Contact for example (wich is also a brilliant movie). Sry for my english too, i'm german (you know, the ppl with best footballteam ever, even if we didn't win worldchampionship. xD) oh i can almost hear the comments from britain now... ;)
schnubbel76 1 year ago
@schnubbel76: The best star treks are the search for spock, wrath of khan and the voyage home, i cant pick a winner. srry for my english, im english (you know, the ppl who who never stop talking about winning the world cup 45 years ago) :-)
Englandsbestlover 1 year ago
@Englandsbestlover
lol, you guys had your 15 minutes of fame in deed. ;) youre welcome. Trek on
schnubbel76 1 year ago
Star Trek Insurrection = Poor man's Avatar
Pseudonym25 1 year ago
A beard belongs on Rikers face.
lalaloola1 1 year ago
I did not get the movie that much, the point of the movie was just scrambled all over the place. this is probably my least favorite next to star trek I
Antimatter050 1 year ago
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Antimatter050 1 year ago
Data makes the whole trailer!
Titaniacy 1 year ago
Data: Saddle up!
This makes me smile :]
In0tuhTR3KKi3 1 year ago
i simply love that crew ..!! i wish they never got old ...... :D
mimoh20 1 year ago
this is one of my favorite next gen movies ^_^ speically since picard defies orders and fights to save a civilization and as the trailer said "who the HELL are we to determine next course of evolutino for people?"
ElderGodBrandon 1 year ago
the prime directive is to not get invovled with the evoloution of a species or something like that :) the needs of the many is one of spock's logic sayings
s1977spw2 1 year ago
Call me a weirdo or a heretic, but I'm a Trekkie who liked Insurrection AND Nemesis.
fecxor 1 year ago
@fecxor I completely agree... Nemesis and Undiscovered Country are my favourite of the 'old trek' films
truyils 1 year ago
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@fecxor I completely agree... Nemesis and Undiscovered Country are my favourite of the 'old trek' films
truyils 1 year ago
DATA RLZ MO-FOZ!!!!!!! (I generally don't swear but that means he's awesome right?! YES I'M A GEEK!)
Titaniacy 1 year ago
Data is so awesome! Totally kick-ass!
"Saddle-up. Lock and load!"
Titaniacy 1 year ago
I like this story... but not the film.
This would of been an incredible two-part on TNG, but as a film, it dosent work for anyone who isnt a trekker already
truyils 1 year ago
I like this story... but not the film.
This would of been an incredible two-part on TNG, but as a film, it dosent work for anyone who isnt a trekker already
truyils 1 year ago
@truyils no
it would still be bad as a 2 parter because it makes no sense
oiramldx 1 year ago
@oiramldx Why doesnt it? at least give reasons to your statement?
truyils 1 year ago
If the idea is that the Federation's plan to relocate the Ba'ku against their will to make use of their planet's healing properties is a violation of everything the Federation holds dear, then why move them at all? The film makes clear that there's only six hundred of them, on a planet large enough to have a complex ring system; isn't there enough room for everyone to share?
oiramldx 1 year ago
@oiramldx Dude not to mention that Picard defying the federation is totally out of character. Even though I acknowledge that it wouldn't happen. Picard ignores one of the facets of the prime directive. "The Needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few." So all in all everything in this movie doesn't make sense. I really enjoyed it but I know there are a LOT of plot holes.
SpikeDubbs 1 year ago
@SpikeDubbs
"The Needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few." is not part of Primary Directive (maybe Romulans directive, but not Federation). Most important quote is when Picard reply to Admiral with words: "How many peoples takes to become wrong?". Actually, crew actions save the soul of the Federation.
psrdanovic 1 year ago
PART2
Are the Ba'ku so selfish that they won't allow anyone else on their planet for any reasons? If so, aren't they the ones the Federation should be dealing with, instead of wasting time and energy jumping into bed with someone else? Also, if you're going to call a film Insurrection, then the revolt in question should be far more epic than shooting down a few robot drones with phaser rifles The writing is so unimaginative that even the usually reliable cast seems rather bored with the material
oiramldx 1 year ago
@truyils
I posted the reasons in 2 parts because it was too large of a comment
oiramldx 1 year ago
i thought this had some of the best elements of tng: Plot twist, moral values, romance, and science fiction
prestruction 1 year ago 22
@prestruction
That is because it was nothing more than giant 2hr. episode. Still good, but among the lesser in the ST canon. I would love to see another one, but the IDIOTS killed off Data.
biped19 11 months ago
Avatar?
oiramldx 1 year ago
idc what people say. for me this is star trek at it's best.
schnubbel76 1 year ago
I didn't like this movie...mainly because I felt like it was all over the place in terms of plot. WHat was the point? WAS there a point? If I had to pick between Insurrection and Nemesis, I'd go with Nemesis every time.
PetraKenobi 1 year ago
The best Star Trek movie!
Mafkeesdejong 1 year ago
er... more like the WORST.
kmg4 1 year ago
@kmg4
What do you mean? This movie was most faithful to what Gene Rodenberry had written. Beside that, the storyline was good, the humor was the best, the dialogs were good, the action could be better, but overall it was the best. But that's my opinion of course. Why do you think it's so bad?
Mafkeesdejong 1 year ago
@kmg4 nemesis is the worst
MrVeruckt 1 year ago
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oiramldx 1 year ago
@kmg4 shut ur pie hole before i stick ma butter knive in it
vtecivicsib18 1 year ago 2
Make me.
kmg4 1 year ago
@kmg4 Oh you lil shit head where you at motha fucka any were near NC byotch or you in brazil or some shitnizt?
vtecivicsib18 1 year ago
@vtecivicsib18 that would be hilarious, kmg4 is probably like the simpsons "comic book guy" and he would give commentary on his own ass-kicking (until he realizes that he is talking about himself)
MeIsArtTickYouLet 1 year ago
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is this like avatar?^^
slvrpltd 1 year ago
It wasn't a good movie, but it was enjoyable.
I miss when Star Trek was still on the air.
80smusicfanNO1 1 year ago
It is still on air....think there are Voyager re-runs on Sci-Fi,and TNG on CBC
Dalbert342 1 year ago
Surely you knew what I meant, I miss the time when NEW episodes were on the air.
80smusicfanNO1 1 year ago
@80smusicfanNO1 Don't worry,they'll make a new series...what with renewed interest after the Star Trek movie....but I never lost interest in ST...its great entertaiment and has a great message about the future
Dalbert342 1 year ago
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gsnake007 2 years ago
BAAAAW GO CRY TO MOMMY
oiramldx 1 year ago
In the previous flick, Picard camps up the prime directive. Here, "Insurrection" wants to take the notion seriously, but fails. Mostly because the writers had to go from the Admiral's "All of starfleet cmd is behind this" to "Daugherty and the other few who started this are now in jail". They couldn't find a way to really make the concept work. (never try to be big when the movie directly ties in to two currently running tv shows at the same time, oops.)
HypnoToad72 2 years ago
@HypnoToad72 Did you even watch the movie? Daugherty is dead as a door nail
Dalbert342 1 year ago
Whatever happened to the Prime directive?
Ujikaweapon1 2 years ago
I think gene roddenberry would have loved this film, it's got all the priniciples that gene thought star trek should have always.
ForeverStarTrek 2 years ago 4
@ForeverStarTrek I think he would've loved the way the film returns Trek to its morally challenging roots, but I think he would've disliked the fact that a Starfleet Admiral seemed to abandon the Prime Directive
fecxor 1 year ago
Why did he blow out the Bussard Ram Scoops?
kkoloftt 2 years ago
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MOMO1997computerboy 2 years ago 19
one of my favourite st films..
mrkyri 2 years ago 6
I thought this movie wasent that bad infact I thought it was pretty well done
Howyaduing 2 years ago 26
this may of not have been the best, but i imagine this would've been gene roddenberrys favorite movie.
Deadq 2 years ago 2
please no one get mad or try to convince me why I should hate this movie (because this is my personal opinion and I'm not changing it) but I enjoyed this movie and thought it was great. On tv or in a movie it still teaches a lesson and it just overall cool (in my opinion.)
visionary1138 2 years ago
I hear ya. You know what? It kind of reminds me, a bit, of the Palestinians who were relocated after the U.N. permitted the Israel to become a modern nation. There are a lot of parallels. Where was The Federation on that one, I wonder?
brianwesley28 2 years ago
and yet the Israilites were originally in that region a long long time ago before being defeated and their land taken, so it's hard to say, but as I said before it's a shame that peaceful coexistance isn't an option.
You don't have to like someone to treat them civily.
visionary1138 2 years ago
I totally agree with everything that you just said, with one exception. I am not certain that the Israelis were the original inhabitants of that land that is today called Israel and Palestine. I would state, with more certainty, that Semitic peoples were most likely the original inhabitants of that land, but I cannot say with certainty that they were the Israelis. I totally agree with the rest. I like the way that you think.
brianwesley28 2 years ago
well the religion I believe in (I don't even think of it as a religion I just think of it as the truth) is Christianity, and I believe that God had given the Israelites (israelis) that land, and the funny thing is whenever they stopped listening to God someone came and took over them.
Anyway as far as what godzilla said, everyone breaks rules, even America, the trick is not to get caught doing it, which is what governments would try to do if they break a rule. I'm not against america though.
visionary1138 2 years ago
Guys it's obvious why this movie and Nemesis did so poorly.
It didn't use the music from Wrath of Khan in the trailer! Look at all the other Treks that did. They did great.
captainbossi 2 years ago
Why would you make a Star Trek movie based on the Prime Directive. We've already saw that in a lot of the Star Trek episodes from the original and TNG.
godzilla0083 2 years ago
Maybe it has a greater social implication? Perhaps it is an allegory for our own systems of government and laws that we hold so dear, yet continually violate when it suits us to do so? Maybe that is the reason? Because it happens more often that most of us wish to admit to, as well as watch?
brianwesley28 2 years ago
yeah you're right we often make rules and say we'll follow them, but only when it's convenient for us. As far as the whole Israel/Palestinian thing, it's too bad they can't just coexist isn't it? I mean it all leads back to their descendents and stuff, but they keep the grudge going.
It could be just like insurrection. If the Federation peacefully asked to send people to the planet too (and coexist with the inhabitants already there) I bet it would have worked out fine.
visionary1138 2 years ago
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No. It's just a bad movie to the core. Made no sense, sense they done it in the episodes.
And just to let you know America doesn't violate it's own laws to suite it's own needs. America has to defend itself from bad people wanted to kill Americans.
godzilla0083 2 years ago
I can't argue against your opinion, or personal truth regarding the movie. That's for sure. I mean, I made my observation, as well. Right? Those are personal truths. We each find what we find in any creative work and it isn't always the same each time we experience it, or when someone else does. It is subjective. We may even have differing opinions than the director, or writer. Whatever. When it comes to the part about America, I'm an American and I've seen enough to question your perspective.
brianwesley28 2 years ago
You did make your own observations. But look I'm also America to you know so when it comes to violating it's own laws America has to sacrifice a lot to keep it's citizens like me and you safe. I'm sorry that you feel like America has turned you down.
godzilla0083 2 years ago
People without jobs aren't feeling safe right now. Those with jobs are fairly unanimous in that they aren't feeling secure either.
HypnoToad72 2 years ago
True.
godzilla0083 2 years ago
Great Trek story that would of worked on TV, but went horribly wrong on film.
rich1701 2 years ago
That was more of a spoiler than a trailer. It gave away too much of the plot.
BigDuke6ixx 2 years ago
this was a million times better than nemesis its such a shame there final film was so crap stuart baird should never have got the directors job for that film it needed to be epic in scale with cameo roles for the ds9 and voyger crews in a gigantic battle to save the universe from the mirror universe! mind the film would have to be 3 hours long ha ha . patrick stuart should have played both roles to make nemesis look a bit better how can you be bald from youth :)
s1977spw 2 years ago 3
Patrick Stewart has been bald since he was 19.
Raea714 2 years ago 3
How the hell did this make more than Nemesis?
ItsJamesOBrien 2 years ago
wow i thought this movie was the shit when i was 8. i just watched it again what the fuck was i smoking
Traffick02 2 years ago
Sorry but this movie sucked the big one
spiderboy43 2 years ago
the beginning of the end of star trek
cmanning525 2 years ago
this movie sucked lol.
thewewguy8t88 2 years ago
I saw this movie before it kicks ass so much!
Starskylina87 2 years ago 3
That not TNG theme it the Final Frontier theme
Shadowthehedgehog999 2 years ago
Technically speaking, it's actually the "FIRST CONTACT" End Credits.
captainmars89 2 years ago
Technically speaking both of you are wrong :) Its the opening theme for "Star Trek Generations" which is played right at the beginning of the video.
holodock 2 years ago
correct
LMUli 2 years ago
hah trekies!!!!!!!!!!!!
monkeykingk101 2 years ago
hah trekies
monkeykingk101 2 years ago
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data makes my brain hurt, he uses to many BIG words
Zooroonies 2 years ago
ummmm... which episode was this?
007InMiami 2 years ago
It is a movie.
Mavidyoute14 2 years ago
Could have fooled me when I saw it at the movie theater. Kept looking for the remote
007InMiami 2 years ago 4
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007InMiami 2 years ago
This movie and all TNG Star Trek films have great C.G.I and !
ctCHRISTIANnz 2 years ago 2
this is my fav star trek movie right next to star trek 2 the wrath of khan. but data gives me a hedache whenever he talks because he uses so many big words that confuse me.
Zooroonies 2 years ago
Star Trek IX was pretty MEH.
They should have focused on the Dominion War instead. A TNG/DS9 crossover would've worked much better.
pinoi78 2 years ago 2
I agree with that
trekdad07 2 years ago
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OH SHI-
I can't wait for this to come out!
RevengefulRaccoon 2 years ago
uhhhhhhhh, revengefullraccoon, this movie is really old. lol! it came out in like 1999.
Zooroonies 2 years ago
i dont give a shit either way... they need more next generation movies, who gives a fuck about kirk and spock... we need more picard and riker
soundslikesally 2 years ago
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soundslikesally you are a totally loser!!!!
How the fuck you can say that.
Damn you are a looser.
GabiFish 2 years ago
at least i have a deeper school of thought than space monsters... fucking retard
soundslikesally 2 years ago
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You are the only fucking retard here.
If Kirk and Spock never have existed you whodnt have TNG!!!! Jackass
GabiFish 2 years ago
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and thats the only thing they contributed to the universe... its cheesy as hell, its plum retarded in comparison to tng. The basic fact is that kirk fought monsters, picard battled quantum physics, time problems, genocide.... its apparent why you like the pre-school version of star trek.... its easy for you to comprehend, dipshit.
soundslikesally 2 years ago
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I like all of Star Trek you dipshit.......
GabiFish 2 years ago
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ohhhhh, good comeback... nice try, have fun being a fuck up your entire life.
soundslikesally 2 years ago