Thank you, Ms Argus. That was beautiful and very moving. I wish I had the courage to come out to my own family. If only they were as supportive as you are.
What is totally offensive is the drip drip of perverse liberal political correctness constantly on offer from the left. Their utterly revolting gay marriage campaign, which started when they realised there was no more blood to be sucked from the victimhood of the workers, is like some vile version of 1984, with the Ministry of love taking on a totally new and utterly menacing role.
The entire population has been brainwashed by these people.
Their repulsive propaganda must be strongly opposed.
I wish this was my grandma she is amazing!! <3 Nothing is wrong with gay marriage we have a right to love who we want and if they want to get married who the fuck cares??? Gay marriage should be allowed in all 50 states! I dont understand why it isnt
Our Government shouldn't even be involved with the marriage issue at all its ridiculous how much they like to control they way we want to live, isn't this the land of the FREE? We should be able to live the lives we want to within reason of course. So what if a man loves a man or a woman loves a woman they want to express their love further and get married why stop it? Its crazy. Even the Churches need stop the bigotry times have changed.
I'm sorry. I thought you understood that God is unchanging, but it is people who change. Public stoning was of course a vicious human invention. God is merciful, yet He expects us to live as close to Christlike as we can.
Why are people still clinging to this permanent marriage man woman house garage dog lifestyle? No one has money or jobs, there are more divorces than not, and no one is happy right now with how things are going. Why can't people look at there hang ups and judgements and just say "fuck it I could die tomorrow let me love and have fun!"
"Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die" was thought of long before you. It's a foolish and short-sided way to think. Think it through and have hope that our good works will honor Christ and will effect us in the hereafter.
This is a woman, a mother, a grandmother, who took the time to think things over. She's a wonderful example of what the word 'family' truly means. BRAVO!!!!!
I don't think it's arrogant. After watching the video I observed that she had placed her family above her principles. Understandable, but not very brave.
@MsEndure2end ...you're insistent that she compromised her principles based on what you see only....but you don't know. It's an assumption of yours. She mentioned that it took her a good while to accept the news. Perhaps God spoke to her.
I suspect that this moment was a special one for the grandmother or else she wouldn't have done the vid. and you attempt to turn it into something else and call her out.....arrogant?? judgmental??
She compromised her principles, or lowered her standards if you prefer, as shown by her own words. She was brought up traditionally and was stunned, confused, angry and wondered what she had done wrong (1:38). That was her fork in the road in which she chose to be outraged against tradition because her children veered from it, and she is going down with them.
It takes no courage to compromise ones core values.
@MsEndure2end This clip was shown at my university and received a standing ovation that would not end. This woman speaks of love and truth. She is a true hero!
@MsEndure2end What you view as morality and "faith", seem to be a very subjective matter. I live an a liberal, secular society in Europe, and your issues and views on the world would be percieved as extreme, bizare, and outdated. We've had civil marriage for LGBT people for years now, but not religious marriage which is on it's way any day now. But even in this discussion, moral and "faith" are not included in the discussion. It's more of a practicle matter.
I'm sorry you feel that God's ways are weak and outdated. Far from it, I believe that God's ways are for everyone, but only for everyone that reaches out and accepts the gift.
@MsEndure2end Don't be sorry for me. I was raised to bellieve in Allah. Don't ever think that your religious views could be considered universal truth. Your beliefs are private, and should not be used to discriminate or stigmatize other minority groups in any country. As I said before, this woman is a true hero
I meant that I'm sorry about your feelings toward God. I believe you have a right to choose whatever belief or faith that your heart desires. That does not change the fact that God is universal. God is for everyone. You may choose to believe in Him or not. I believe in Him with all my heart, and it follows that this Iowa grandmother is misguided. A true hero to me would stick to principles no matter what.
@MsEndure2end I am sorry, that you arren't able to accept the fact that the beliefs of some people shouldn't compromise the rights of another group of people. i bet this Iowa grandmother believes in God too, and I'm pretty sure she is sticking to her principles. God bless her!
@MsEndure2end Learning and growing is not compromise. She had a belief set that was based in ancient beliefs. She opened her heart and grew. It does take courage to stand up to the beliefs of your forefathers. It takes courage to open your mind when everyone around you will condemn you for it. It takes courage to face the thought of eternal damnation based on old beliefs and embrace love over condemnation. Yes she compromised her old beliefs, but in that compromise she grew
Learning and growing is wise if it's in God. To veer from our Heavenly Father is not brave, but weak adherence to worldly beliefs and peer pressure, which is more like shrinking. True courage is adherence to God's commandments, loving as God would love without being ashamed of God's ways.
Yes, MsEndure, it's too bad that you are led astray by fairy tale, belong to a false religion, and are bigoted against gays. Really, it's too bad... and sad.
Remember the parable of the man who closed his ears fearing he might understand with his heart and be converted? He didn't "fall for," the gospel. He chose instead to fall into forbidden paths, being ashamed of the scorn of his peers.
and as usual, you got basic science wrong. Sexual orientation is not a behavior to control. It's hard-wired into all of us... no matter what your false prophets say.
We come to this world created by Heavenly Father as male and female. We have the sacred privilege of creating life, and when we misuse that sacred power, it's a sin. Justifying the wrong behavior doesn't change that it's a selfish, shortsighted way to live.
This is farewell. I choose to make this my final reply to you. If you're willing to keep reading, I'll explain why. Even Christ came to a point in which He was done teaching certain people. You have dwindled in unbelief and have become loathsome, so I'm shaking off the dust of my feet as a testimony against you, consequently it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment than for you.
"When in the realms of joy I see Thy face in full felicity!...
Sin, my worst enemy before,
Shall vex my eyes and ears no more.
My inward foes shall all be slain,
Nor Satan break my peace again."
I choose to stop replying to you for the reasons explained. I have no hard feelings against you. May God's peace keep your heart. I know He lives. Peace out.
My conclusion that men and women are created that way, and homosexuality is learned, comes from my faith and knowledge in the Bible and the Book of Mormon. Do you believe in God?
@MsEndure2end ....so there was a time in your life, where you came to a fork in the road, when you had to CHOOSE...because that's exactly what you're eluding to.
For what it's worth, I do believe in God but not so much in a book which many believers use to simply cast judgement on everyone else but themselves. A book penned by mortals and revised by other mortals to suit their needs.
Glad you believe in God. I believe in prophets, too, who are authorized to speak for God. Casting judgment is wrong, but keeping high moral standards can sometimes be misconstrued.
We were born either male or female, and it's veering off the path whether it is premarital sex, adultery, polygamy, or homosexuality. Marriage is a sacred union only between a man and a woman.
@MsEndure2end ...a sacred union that ends in divorce approx 55% of the time. Add to that the marriages that exist for financial reasons and for the children's sake. Yet it's homosexuals who are besmirched for attempting to infringe on it's sacredness.
It's very popular to rail against homosexuals as opposed to the the adulterer's simply because of the numbers. Hetero adulterer's chastising homosexuals presents a refuge for themselves.
Not at all. The law of chastity stands regardless of divorce, finances, or alternative sexual behavior. Marriage is still sacred. To say it is not sacred because of many divorces is to say don't wash the dishes because they'll just get dirty again. You can't just give up because it's easier.
I am against gay marriage because I am for marriage to be protected and the law of chastity to be honored.
Civil gay marriage doesn't impact the way that ANYONE practices their religion. Therefore, religion has NO right to restrict the rights of gays/LGBTQ's.
Civil gay marriage doesn't impact the way that ANYONE practices their religion. Therefore, religion has NO right to restrict the rights of gays/LGBTQ's.
As a believer in what is right and good and wholesome, I have a right to stand up against immorality, and vote if I have to, in order to keep immoral practices from being sanctioned by law.
@MsEndure2end I'm glad that you strive daily to become a better citizen. I'm hoping that within your daily routine of becoming a better citizen, you accept people who cannot control their sexual orientation and have nothing to do with you practicing your own religion, or do anything related to what you do in your personal life.
What a brave woman. It takes a lot for older generations to keep their minds open because of the values they were instilled with as children and the way they were brought up.
@MsEndure2end why does marriage have to be between a man and woman? Are we living in the same time era as when Jesus was alive? Are we the same people who were alive back then? Are you the object of possession for a man now like you would have been back then? NO. This is the 21st Century, stop living in the past, or would you liked to be stoned to death because you're a woman who speaks her mind, which back then was not allowed? (This is not a threat or anything, just a few factoid questions.)
@tomimatty2 Marriage is ordained to be between a man and a woman by our Heavenly Father with respect to the law of chastity. Clearly any sex outside of marriage is a sin, whether it's homosexual, adulterous, or premarital.
God is unchanging. Sure our society changes, but God is stable.
There is no institution in all of Western Civilization that has tortured, bullied, lied to, molested, murdered, or impoverished more people than the Catholic Church. And the Vatican continues the constant stream of hate unabated. I would think people would be ashamed to admit in public that they are a Catholic. This lady is an admirable exception.
The Bill of Rights does not contain a list of rights that are given to the American people by the government. Instead it provides a list of the rights that are inherently ours, and they can’t be taken away by the government. M Connelly 2011
No more progressives. We love liberty. Stand with Dr Paul and the Constitution of the USA
Lets put a man with the integrity of a great statesman in office...one who cannot be purchased or bullied...Ron Paul 2012!
Hmmm what in the world could you have done wrong?? OH YEAH! GREAT SCOTT WOMAN YOU DIDN'T TEACH YOUR CHILDREN THE TRUTH ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY! YOU HAVE ALL THE RIGHT TO BE ANGRY! The devil has clouded your judgement!
Thank you, Ms. Argus! You are a fine, loving parent who's been through a great journey of acceptance. It's not an easy journey for traditionally-raised people to take.
Let's hope that, in the near future, "tradition" includes accepting beautiful lgbtq persons for who we are.
This moved me to tears. I came out to my grandmother around 2 years ago and at first she is extremely disapproving of it. In fact she was really homophobic. But she slowly learned that nothing really changed and I'm still her grand daughter. She supports me now and is even approving of the idea that I get married with a girl some day. Being honest with her made me realize that we're still a family and this made us closer together. I hope people could see that this is nothing but love. Not a sin
I wish my Nana were as accepting, she is just like the grandmother in "Prayers for Bobby" she told me that is I was gay "I would shoot you and believe me I don't mind going to jail for attempted murder or even murder if it puts another 'fag' in the ground!" and when I heard that, I knew I would possibly never be able to come out to her and be truly happy. I just hope that her ideas have changed for the better...
Ur just precious...Im from Parkersburg, West Virginia...Ur Mom was from Parkersburg, Iowa...Who would have ever thought that she would have U and U would have a Gay son then post this and touch a Gay man with Ur words across the United States...The Internet is sooo amazing and so are U
It is so kind of this woman to love her son, but her emotional attachments don't change God's law of chastity. I have no problem with the homosexual as an individual, but the immoral behavior of sex outside of marriage is wrong. I'm glad she loves her family, but should not be condoning sin.
@MsEndure2end What's wrong with you?? Sin?? Really? Not everyone is a Christian. Therefore, your or any other Christian's religious views should not dictate the way this woman's son lives his life. As a Christian myself, I will pray that you someday find the strength to let go of your prejudices and realize that you as a person shold not be privileged to marry just because you are straight. EVERYONE, gay or straight, should have the right to be with the person they love.
That is oversimplifying the sacredness of Christ's life. As we celebrated His virgin birth at Christmas we were reminded that He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, not by Joseph.
The Lord loves gays, adulterers, molesters, thieves, even murderers! That doesn't mean he approves of their behavior.
@MsEndure2end, of course, Jesus, like most of us, is rational enough to understand the difference between two consenting adults loving each other, and the acts of rape and murder.
Jesus, as I do, obeys God, who did not say that consenting adults could do whatever they felt like. God said it must be between a man and a woman, and I agree and obey.
@MsEndure2end writes, "God did not say that consenting adults could do whatever they felt like."
No one ever claimed He. But the Lord obviously wants people to accept the way He created them, be that gay or str8.
"God said it must be between a man and a woman"
Um, sorry, but that's like alleging God says everyone must be white. His creating blacks & gays contradict such absurd theories. God makes His gay children as gay, & that's how He wants them. Why argue with Him?
Not everyone is a Christian, but Christ loves everyone just the same. Regardless of peoples' beliefs, let them mind their own business as long as we keep marriage only between a man and a woman.
Sin never was happiness. Meaning, we hurt ourselves when we sin. It's important, I think, to keep our morals and standards high and in line with God's will.
@MsEndure2end So, just because you "know" YOUR god is real, by default everyone has to be forced to follow its inane doctrines? Do you have any argument outside of religion, against gay marriage? Because I'm not buying your "God" bullshit. Excuse my language, but if there is no other argument besides religion, the default should be allow gay marriage.
Respect for marriage, which was ordained of God from the beginning, is at the heart of the issue. Marriage stabilizes families so that children can be raised with male and female parents, as created by God. Marriage must be defined this way, otherwise we wrongly open the door to polygamy, polyandry, incest, and child marriage.
@MsEndure2end Oh the old gateway argument. Really? So, gay marriage is that ridiculous that it will cause that? To me, as long as they are consenting adults it is fine by me. And quit proclaiming your faith as fact. Because it has been well established I am not accepting religious arguments. And quite frankly neither should the U.S.
That is a good way to refer to it: The "gateway argument," which is valid. That's why Proposition 8 was appropriately called "protect marriage."
I also like the adage: "Marriage is all about procreation and not recreation." Marriage was ordained for men and women to have families. If others choose not to follow God's plan, whether they're heterosexual or homosexual, showing love towards one another is possible without calling it marriage.
I admire people who have the strength of character to stand up for what they believe in, and I respect opposing opinions. However, there's no need to compromise ones principles just to satisfy the world.
The world would say let consenting adults do whatever, be fair, be open-minded. God would say that we are created male and female and be blessed with families.
@MsEndure2end So what about people who are sterile, what about adoption? Gay people CAN have parents, so what if it isn't through the popular method. Also, I'm not doing this just to satisfy others, I'm doing this because deep down I firmly believe marriage is about LOVE! And I'm not going into an argument over who's definition is better because it doesn't matter to me. I only see it as fair for them to marry, because it's a damn shame not to be to satisfy one religion's belief.
@MsEndure2end Honestly it's Christians like you who don't even respect marriage at all! Why don't you go protest Atheist Marriage, or basically every other religion's marriage. You denying two people in love to marry is the biggest offense against marriage. I just love how strangers can deny people to marry, it's sick.
No, Ms Endure. Atheism predates the time of the Constitution by many centuries. The 5th-century BCE Greek philosopher Diagoras is known as the "first atheist". And the founding fathers, most of who were Deists, certainly knew about and discussed atheism.
Morals are determined by reasoning, rational discussion and philosophy, not some person's idea of what a god wants.
"Marriage is a lawfully protected religious instition"... false. It's a civil institution.
God has dealt with rebellion since Adam and Eve, and He continues to this day, as we see from comments here. Yet He remains loving and kind, blessing us when we choose to obey His commandments. A good example is to obey and respect the law of chastity.
Wrong again, as usual. "God has dealt with rebellion...." You see, that's your problem. You keep on referring to your beliefs as facts. Don't you understand the difference?
The only thing that matters is that which all parties can agree on. Since we don't accept your religious beliefs, civil marriage for all couples, hetero or gay, is the only fair thing.
Don't attempt to shroud your bigotry in religion.... we're not falling for it.
Wrong again, as usual. "God has dealt with rebellion...." You see, that's your problem. You keep on referring to your beliefs as facts. Don't you understand the difference?
The only thing that matters is that which all parties can agree on. Since we don't accept your religious beliefs, civil marriage for all couples, hetero or gay, is the only fair thing.
Don't attempt to shroud your bigotry in religion.... we're not falling for it.
When you cry "we" are not "falling for it", what are you referring to? Your attitude is questionable. Who is "we?" I'm not selling a bill of goods here, but respectfully offering my opinion.
It is not about "fairness" or individual rights. Marriage is about children, and stabilizing society, and the blessing of God's plan, which is basic to our creation as man and woman.
You are selling a bill of goods, & it's rotten. It IS about fairness, & civil rights.
Marriage is not only about children... that's a recent invention. Since you claim to know your scriptures so well, you know that marriage in the bible was a property transfer (daughter) from one man to another. Nothing about children or stabilizing society. So as usual, you're wrong again.
Tell us all, how does civil marriage for gays impact the way you practice your religion?
Marriage between a man and a woman is fundamental to the scriptures.
"Wherefore, it is lawful that he should have one wife, and they twain shall be one flesh, and all this that the earth might answer the end of its creation."
"For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh."
Gay marriage would sadly serve to destroy the sacredness of marriage, being in opposition to God's plan.
You didn't answer the question! How does gay civil marriage affect the way you practice your religion?
I don't care about your religious mythologies, so stop quoting that crap. What real, everyday impact on you practicing your religion would gay marriage impose?
Doesn’t every child have the right to have somebody who loves them?
It’s love that makes a family, but it’s marriage that protects it.
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shenadoa 18 hours ago
Thank you, Ms Argus. That was beautiful and very moving. I wish I had the courage to come out to my own family. If only they were as supportive as you are.
FuriousBurningFlame 1 day ago
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What is totally offensive is the drip drip of perverse liberal political correctness constantly on offer from the left. Their utterly revolting gay marriage campaign, which started when they realised there was no more blood to be sucked from the victimhood of the workers, is like some vile version of 1984, with the Ministry of love taking on a totally new and utterly menacing role.
The entire population has been brainwashed by these people.
Their repulsive propaganda must be strongly opposed.
johnzbarleycorn 2 days ago
MsEndure2end is a spam user just so everyone is aware.
soyntgo4it 2 weeks ago
@soyntgo4it
Peace.
MsEndure2end 2 weeks ago
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soyntgo4it 2 weeks ago
I wish this was my grandma she is amazing!! <3 Nothing is wrong with gay marriage we have a right to love who we want and if they want to get married who the fuck cares??? Gay marriage should be allowed in all 50 states! I dont understand why it isnt
1426Love 2 weeks ago
This is REALLY GAY
Shariah Law is coming! Can't stop it!
ukewdgb 2 weeks ago
No matter age, race or gender. Love is love. And I love this lady even though I don´t know her.
DaveEvert 2 weeks ago
@DaveEvert
No matter age, race, or gender, marriage is ordained of God only between a man and a woman. It's the foundation of our society.
MsEndure2end 2 weeks ago
<3
jillmaman 3 weeks ago
That was beautiful and courageous. I say sobbing tearfully. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
ukphillip 1 month ago 7
Bless you, lady.
GaladedridDamodred 1 month ago
That was beautiful :'D
sasuke3690 1 month ago
You are beautiful!! God bless you and your family!
kjsalinas 1 month ago
Thank you sooo much!! I wish my parents were as accepting as u r!!
keith101234 1 month ago
Applause!!! I could just hug you!
goldensundrop 1 month ago
Our Government shouldn't even be involved with the marriage issue at all its ridiculous how much they like to control they way we want to live, isn't this the land of the FREE? We should be able to live the lives we want to within reason of course. So what if a man loves a man or a woman loves a woman they want to express their love further and get married why stop it? Its crazy. Even the Churches need stop the bigotry times have changed.
soyntgo4it 1 month ago 7
@soyntgo4it
It's not a trend in fashion. It's God's law which is unchanging. He is a God of morality.
MsEndure2end 2 weeks ago
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soyntgo4it 2 weeks ago
@soyntgo4it
Nothing is more important than the gospel of Jesus Christ.
MsEndure2end 2 weeks ago
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soyntgo4it 2 weeks ago
@MsEndure2end Unchanging, right. Which is why you still stone women for expressing their opinion in the public square.
iruparatso 2 weeks ago
@iruparatso
I'm sorry. I thought you understood that God is unchanging, but it is people who change. Public stoning was of course a vicious human invention. God is merciful, yet He expects us to live as close to Christlike as we can.
I'm thankful to have the gospel as a guide.
MsEndure2end 2 weeks ago
Lady, YOU ROCK!
AlphaGeminorium 1 month ago
love her haha <3
SlimShaney08 1 month ago
You go Grandma.
jaynerrrrrrrify 1 month ago
Why are people still clinging to this permanent marriage man woman house garage dog lifestyle? No one has money or jobs, there are more divorces than not, and no one is happy right now with how things are going. Why can't people look at there hang ups and judgements and just say "fuck it I could die tomorrow let me love and have fun!"
Dharmabum9287 1 month ago
@Dharmabum9287
"Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die" was thought of long before you. It's a foolish and short-sided way to think. Think it through and have hope that our good works will honor Christ and will effect us in the hereafter.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
I love you!
Dharmabum9287 1 month ago
This is a woman, a mother, a grandmother, who took the time to think things over. She's a wonderful example of what the word 'family' truly means. BRAVO!!!!!
raytodd8155 1 month ago
@raytodd8155
This woman compromised her principles because she loved her family.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end ...to say that this woman, a woman that you don't even know, compromised her principles, is arrogant at best.
raytodd8155 1 month ago
@raytodd8155
I don't think it's arrogant. After watching the video I observed that she had placed her family above her principles. Understandable, but not very brave.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end ...you're insistent that she compromised her principles based on what you see only....but you don't know. It's an assumption of yours. She mentioned that it took her a good while to accept the news. Perhaps God spoke to her.
I suspect that this moment was a special one for the grandmother or else she wouldn't have done the vid. and you attempt to turn it into something else and call her out.....arrogant?? judgmental??
raytodd8155 1 month ago
@raytodd8155
She compromised her principles, or lowered her standards if you prefer, as shown by her own words. She was brought up traditionally and was stunned, confused, angry and wondered what she had done wrong (1:38). That was her fork in the road in which she chose to be outraged against tradition because her children veered from it, and she is going down with them.
It takes no courage to compromise ones core values.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end This clip was shown at my university and received a standing ovation that would not end. This woman speaks of love and truth. She is a true hero!
slimfast67 1 month ago
@slimfast67
A university education is extremely valuable when coupled with morality and faith.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end What you view as morality and "faith", seem to be a very subjective matter. I live an a liberal, secular society in Europe, and your issues and views on the world would be percieved as extreme, bizare, and outdated. We've had civil marriage for LGBT people for years now, but not religious marriage which is on it's way any day now. But even in this discussion, moral and "faith" are not included in the discussion. It's more of a practicle matter.
slimfast67 1 month ago
@slimfast67
I'm sorry you feel that God's ways are weak and outdated. Far from it, I believe that God's ways are for everyone, but only for everyone that reaches out and accepts the gift.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end Don't be sorry for me. I was raised to bellieve in Allah. Don't ever think that your religious views could be considered universal truth. Your beliefs are private, and should not be used to discriminate or stigmatize other minority groups in any country. As I said before, this woman is a true hero
slimfast67 1 month ago
@slimfast67
I meant that I'm sorry about your feelings toward God. I believe you have a right to choose whatever belief or faith that your heart desires. That does not change the fact that God is universal. God is for everyone. You may choose to believe in Him or not. I believe in Him with all my heart, and it follows that this Iowa grandmother is misguided. A true hero to me would stick to principles no matter what.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end I am sorry, that you arren't able to accept the fact that the beliefs of some people shouldn't compromise the rights of another group of people. i bet this Iowa grandmother believes in God too, and I'm pretty sure she is sticking to her principles. God bless her!
slimfast67 1 month ago
@slimfast67
We will have to agree to disagree. You talk about compromise, but to compromise your principles is to surrender your integrity.
That's what makes a hero. The strength of character to abide by your principles even when it's unpopular or in the face of ridicule.
No doubt God loves this Iowa grandmother, and her wayward children as well. Yet I think God is clear that He will bless us if we repent of our sins.
Peace to you even if we can't agree.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end Learning and growing is not compromise. She had a belief set that was based in ancient beliefs. She opened her heart and grew. It does take courage to stand up to the beliefs of your forefathers. It takes courage to open your mind when everyone around you will condemn you for it. It takes courage to face the thought of eternal damnation based on old beliefs and embrace love over condemnation. Yes she compromised her old beliefs, but in that compromise she grew
laidbackbeau 1 month ago
@laidbackbeau
Learning and growing is wise if it's in God. To veer from our Heavenly Father is not brave, but weak adherence to worldly beliefs and peer pressure, which is more like shrinking. True courage is adherence to God's commandments, loving as God would love without being ashamed of God's ways.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@slimfast67
For a reasonable clip about purity and chastity, see Virtuous Young Women, Mormon Messages. I love it!
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
Wow! We need more people like her!!! Speak up!!!!!!
BenchitoJREL 1 month ago
GILF
frexspar76 2 months ago
I loved this. I don't know why, but things like this always seem so much more effective when an older man or woman says them.
DiamondDecoy 2 months ago
I LOVE THIS LADY!
EryahJames88 2 months ago
GO GRANDMA. 80 Year Old Grandmother Supports Gay Marriage Whooo Hooo
freakysxyazn84 2 months ago
what a wonderful lady!
MissMarchHare 2 months ago
You have a Beautiful soul. Thank you so much for this!
Rfritz09 2 months ago
Yes, MsEndure, it's too bad that you are led astray by fairy tale, belong to a false religion, and are bigoted against gays. Really, it's too bad... and sad.
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
Remember the parable of the man who closed his ears fearing he might understand with his heart and be converted? He didn't "fall for," the gospel. He chose instead to fall into forbidden paths, being ashamed of the scorn of his peers.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
Irrevelant. In this case I'm closing my ears to your false cult. Thanks anyhow.
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
It is weak to criticize another's belief, instead, you should have the courage to state your belief.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end
Weak? Hardly. One must always call out evil when one sees it... and you're in a cult.
Evil!
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
God loves the sinner, but hates the sin.
We can change if we have the desire to do what's right.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end
It's so funny how you think that you know the will of a god! Poor deluded soul. You're lost in mythology without a shred of truth.
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
Knowing the will of God is possible if you read. Prayer helps, too.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end
Part 2...
and as usual, you got basic science wrong. Sexual orientation is not a behavior to control. It's hard-wired into all of us... no matter what your false prophets say.
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
God created us male and female, and homosexuality is learned. We can and must control our behavior, if we want to do what is right.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end
No, you're lying again. You really shouldn't lie. Homosexuality is not learned. There's no evidence whatsoever that backs up your silly claim.
False mythology like yours has no place in science. As I've said before, it's so funny how you think you know a god's will... delusional.
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
Homosexuality is a learned behavior, a choice to do the wrong thing. God gave us the Bible so that we could know His will if we read.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end
A learned behavior, huh? What mainstream, peer-reviewed studies can you cite to back up this silly claim?
Cuz if you have none, you need to STFU, as the kids say. It's the same as you lying.
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
We come to this world created by Heavenly Father as male and female. We have the sacred privilege of creating life, and when we misuse that sacred power, it's a sin. Justifying the wrong behavior doesn't change that it's a selfish, shortsighted way to live.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end
More false doctrine from you!
How about those studies that back up your silly claim? Got any?
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
Studies include the Bible and the Book of Mormon! Always remember and never forget about the law of chastity.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end
But those are false books, and not scientific evidence. You've failed again, Ms. Endure.
By the way, how is your Evergreen group? And how's your therapy at LDS Family Services going? Managed to "pray away the gay", yet?
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
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This is farewell. I choose to make this my final reply to you. If you're willing to keep reading, I'll explain why. Even Christ came to a point in which He was done teaching certain people. You have dwindled in unbelief and have become loathsome, so I'm shaking off the dust of my feet as a testimony against you, consequently it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment than for you.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
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@TheKinderhookPlates
I affirm Isaac Watts hymn:
"When in the realms of joy I see Thy face in full felicity!...
Sin, my worst enemy before,
Shall vex my eyes and ears no more.
My inward foes shall all be slain,
Nor Satan break my peace again."
I choose to stop replying to you for the reasons explained. I have no hard feelings against you. May God's peace keep your heart. I know He lives. Peace out.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end ....please enlighten me as to how you come to that conclusion. Dis you LEARN your lifestyle?
raytodd8155 1 month ago
@raytodd8155
My conclusion that men and women are created that way, and homosexuality is learned, comes from my faith and knowledge in the Bible and the Book of Mormon. Do you believe in God?
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end ....so there was a time in your life, where you came to a fork in the road, when you had to CHOOSE...because that's exactly what you're eluding to.
For what it's worth, I do believe in God but not so much in a book which many believers use to simply cast judgement on everyone else but themselves. A book penned by mortals and revised by other mortals to suit their needs.
raytodd8155 1 month ago
@raytodd8155
Glad you believe in God. I believe in prophets, too, who are authorized to speak for God. Casting judgment is wrong, but keeping high moral standards can sometimes be misconstrued.
We were born either male or female, and it's veering off the path whether it is premarital sex, adultery, polygamy, or homosexuality. Marriage is a sacred union only between a man and a woman.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end ...a sacred union that ends in divorce approx 55% of the time. Add to that the marriages that exist for financial reasons and for the children's sake. Yet it's homosexuals who are besmirched for attempting to infringe on it's sacredness.
It's very popular to rail against homosexuals as opposed to the the adulterer's simply because of the numbers. Hetero adulterer's chastising homosexuals presents a refuge for themselves.
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@raytodd8155
Not at all. The law of chastity stands regardless of divorce, finances, or alternative sexual behavior. Marriage is still sacred. To say it is not sacred because of many divorces is to say don't wash the dishes because they'll just get dirty again. You can't just give up because it's easier.
I am against gay marriage because I am for marriage to be protected and the law of chastity to be honored.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
Choice is not just a concept of freedom. Choice is choosing either God, or the adversary. I choose God.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
@MsEndure2end
No, you have chosen a false cult, and you're completely lost.
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
Too bad.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
im proud of you! speaking as a member of the human race
sleekcartim 2 months ago
inspiring, beautiful, touching, i cried....thanks !!!!!!!!! ur Grandma rocks........she did good.
italianman004 2 months ago
SHE IS AWESOME. I DON'T KNOW HER BUT I ALREADY LOVE HER.
Leopard2295 2 months ago 9
I love you Grandma. I love you.
wc972 2 months ago 8
:)
no1gr 2 months ago
Beautiful.
KindaGayBlog 2 months ago
@KindaGayBlog im glad you commented on this so i could see it too. your faithful sub & YT friend (ok im a lil drunk so...) Tim
sleekcartim 2 months ago
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Civil gay marriage doesn't impact the way that ANYONE practices their religion. Therefore, religion has NO right to restrict the rights of gays/LGBTQ's.
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
Civil gay marriage doesn't impact the way that ANYONE practices their religion. Therefore, religion has NO right to restrict the rights of gays/LGBTQ's.
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
As a believer in what is right and good and wholesome, I have a right to stand up against immorality, and vote if I have to, in order to keep immoral practices from being sanctioned by law.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
Again, avoiding the question, which is..... how does civil gay marriage impacts the way that you practice your religion???
You're still too cowardly to answer....
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
Here we go again. Please see previous comments.
I never tire, though, of confessing my love of Christ, my faith in Heavenly Father, and do strive daily to become a better citizen.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
Yes, here we go again with YOU avoiding the question.
Your previous comments did not answer the question asked. You're either a fool, or you're being an ass... which is it?
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end I'm glad that you strive daily to become a better citizen. I'm hoping that within your daily routine of becoming a better citizen, you accept people who cannot control their sexual orientation and have nothing to do with you practicing your own religion, or do anything related to what you do in your personal life.
Seraliena 1 month ago
@Seraliena
Sure we are effected. We are all in this human condition together, and we can help each other. I have no doubt that our behaviors can be controlled.
MsEndure2end 1 month ago
You go grandma! :D
ATChampagne 2 months ago
What a brave woman. It takes a lot for older generations to keep their minds open because of the values they were instilled with as children and the way they were brought up.
ADHDBasketcase 2 months ago
thumbs up if chris crocker brought you here..
nickjonasiloveu 2 months ago
Well done. This is just what it's required. Thank you.
1chelp 2 months ago
I like this video X3
princessmelody7 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end why does marriage have to be between a man and woman? Are we living in the same time era as when Jesus was alive? Are we the same people who were alive back then? Are you the object of possession for a man now like you would have been back then? NO. This is the 21st Century, stop living in the past, or would you liked to be stoned to death because you're a woman who speaks her mind, which back then was not allowed? (This is not a threat or anything, just a few factoid questions.)
tomimatty2 2 months ago
@tomimatty2 Marriage is ordained to be between a man and a woman by our Heavenly Father with respect to the law of chastity. Clearly any sex outside of marriage is a sin, whether it's homosexual, adulterous, or premarital.
God is unchanging. Sure our society changes, but God is stable.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
There is no institution in all of Western Civilization that has tortured, bullied, lied to, molested, murdered, or impoverished more people than the Catholic Church. And the Vatican continues the constant stream of hate unabated. I would think people would be ashamed to admit in public that they are a Catholic. This lady is an admirable exception.
shenadoa 2 months ago
so much win....in so many ways...
crisrocksonguitar 2 months ago in playlist More videos from RGRJMA
you are so awesome!!!!!!!
LarryTheGay 2 months ago
you are awesome =)
Drhodes1991 2 months ago
Thank you for being such a cool grandmother!
socialistauditor 3 months ago
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The Bill of Rights does not contain a list of rights that are given to the American people by the government. Instead it provides a list of the rights that are inherently ours, and they can’t be taken away by the government. M Connelly 2011
No more progressives. We love liberty. Stand with Dr Paul and the Constitution of the USA
Lets put a man with the integrity of a great statesman in office...one who cannot be purchased or bullied...Ron Paul 2012!
possumpistol 3 months ago
This video is incredible! You are an example to everyone who watches this.
PaulOnHomosexuality 3 months ago
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
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you do that thang girl. good speech, real talk.
kingjusticei 3 months ago
Hmmm what in the world could you have done wrong?? OH YEAH! GREAT SCOTT WOMAN YOU DIDN'T TEACH YOUR CHILDREN THE TRUTH ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY! YOU HAVE ALL THE RIGHT TO BE ANGRY! The devil has clouded your judgement!
cellistme 3 months ago
Thank you, Ms. Argus! You are a fine, loving parent who's been through a great journey of acceptance. It's not an easy journey for traditionally-raised people to take.
Let's hope that, in the near future, "tradition" includes accepting beautiful lgbtq persons for who we are.
polemius01 3 months ago
This moved me to tears. I came out to my grandmother around 2 years ago and at first she is extremely disapproving of it. In fact she was really homophobic. But she slowly learned that nothing really changed and I'm still her grand daughter. She supports me now and is even approving of the idea that I get married with a girl some day. Being honest with her made me realize that we're still a family and this made us closer together. I hope people could see that this is nothing but love. Not a sin
TheEarlOfTheRedLie 3 months ago 2
I wish my Nana were as accepting, she is just like the grandmother in "Prayers for Bobby" she told me that is I was gay "I would shoot you and believe me I don't mind going to jail for attempted murder or even murder if it puts another 'fag' in the ground!" and when I heard that, I knew I would possibly never be able to come out to her and be truly happy. I just hope that her ideas have changed for the better...
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Ur just precious...Im from Parkersburg, West Virginia...Ur Mom was from Parkersburg, Iowa...Who would have ever thought that she would have U and U would have a Gay son then post this and touch a Gay man with Ur words across the United States...The Internet is sooo amazing and so are U
nathanpburg23 3 months ago
parenting: you're doing it right.
magentaface 3 months ago 25
It is so kind of this woman to love her son, but her emotional attachments don't change God's law of chastity. I have no problem with the homosexual as an individual, but the immoral behavior of sex outside of marriage is wrong. I'm glad she loves her family, but should not be condoning sin.
MsEndure2end 3 months ago
@MsEndure2end What's wrong with you?? Sin?? Really? Not everyone is a Christian. Therefore, your or any other Christian's religious views should not dictate the way this woman's son lives his life. As a Christian myself, I will pray that you someday find the strength to let go of your prejudices and realize that you as a person shold not be privileged to marry just because you are straight. EVERYONE, gay or straight, should have the right to be with the person they love.
DanceStaff07 3 months ago 10
@DanceStaff07 Sure, love is eternal and Christlike. Just only call if marriage if it's between a man and a woman.
MsEndure2end 3 months ago
Let's remember that Jesus had two dads, and He would be the first one to officiate at a gay wedding! The Lord loves the gays. Why argue with Him?
GodCreatesGays2 2 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2
That is oversimplifying the sacredness of Christ's life. As we celebrated His virgin birth at Christmas we were reminded that He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, not by Joseph.
The Lord loves gays, adulterers, molesters, thieves, even murderers! That doesn't mean he approves of their behavior.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end, of course, Jesus, like most of us, is rational enough to understand the difference between two consenting adults loving each other, and the acts of rape and murder.
Just sayin'.
GodCreatesGays2 2 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2
Jesus, as I do, obeys God, who did not say that consenting adults could do whatever they felt like. God said it must be between a man and a woman, and I agree and obey.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
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@MsEndure2end writes, "God did not say that consenting adults could do whatever they felt like."
No one ever claimed He. But the Lord obviously wants people to accept the way He created them, be that gay or str8.
"God said it must be between a man and a woman"
Um, sorry, but that's like alleging God says everyone must be white. His creating blacks & gays contradict such absurd theories. God makes His gay children as gay, & that's how He wants them. Why argue with Him?
GodCreatesGays2 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end Cool, just stay out of other peoples' business and let them fucking marry. Not Everyone is a Christian.
1AndrewTheWolf 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
Not everyone is a Christian, but Christ loves everyone just the same. Regardless of peoples' beliefs, let them mind their own business as long as we keep marriage only between a man and a woman.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end Who is it hurting?
1AndrewTheWolf 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
Sin never was happiness. Meaning, we hurt ourselves when we sin. It's important, I think, to keep our morals and standards high and in line with God's will.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end So, stopping them from marrying will make them straight? LOL, it's people like you that caused the Dark Ages.
1AndrewTheWolf 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
Protecting marriage will protect marriage. If anyone chooses immorality, they should not be rewarded for it.
Homosexuality is a form of sexual immorality, as is adultery, and premarital sex, sins that can be repented of.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end So, just because you "know" YOUR god is real, by default everyone has to be forced to follow its inane doctrines? Do you have any argument outside of religion, against gay marriage? Because I'm not buying your "God" bullshit. Excuse my language, but if there is no other argument besides religion, the default should be allow gay marriage.
1AndrewTheWolf 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
Marriage is a religious issue.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end Only because you make it.
1AndrewTheWolf 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
Respect for marriage, which was ordained of God from the beginning, is at the heart of the issue. Marriage stabilizes families so that children can be raised with male and female parents, as created by God. Marriage must be defined this way, otherwise we wrongly open the door to polygamy, polyandry, incest, and child marriage.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end Oh the old gateway argument. Really? So, gay marriage is that ridiculous that it will cause that? To me, as long as they are consenting adults it is fine by me. And quit proclaiming your faith as fact. Because it has been well established I am not accepting religious arguments. And quite frankly neither should the U.S.
1AndrewTheWolf 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
That is a good way to refer to it: The "gateway argument," which is valid. That's why Proposition 8 was appropriately called "protect marriage."
I also like the adage: "Marriage is all about procreation and not recreation." Marriage was ordained for men and women to have families. If others choose not to follow God's plan, whether they're heterosexual or homosexual, showing love towards one another is possible without calling it marriage.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end Wow, just wow. In one ear and out the other.
1AndrewTheWolf 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
She's not very smart, is she? As a former mormon, I can tell she's swallowed the whole brainwashing, hook... line... and sinker.
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
I believe there is a right and a wrong. Doing my best to stay on the right path.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
I admire people who have the strength of character to stand up for what they believe in, and I respect opposing opinions. However, there's no need to compromise ones principles just to satisfy the world.
The world would say let consenting adults do whatever, be fair, be open-minded. God would say that we are created male and female and be blessed with families.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end So what about people who are sterile, what about adoption? Gay people CAN have parents, so what if it isn't through the popular method. Also, I'm not doing this just to satisfy others, I'm doing this because deep down I firmly believe marriage is about LOVE! And I'm not going into an argument over who's definition is better because it doesn't matter to me. I only see it as fair for them to marry, because it's a damn shame not to be to satisfy one religion's belief.
1AndrewTheWolf 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
Parenting is not just the "popular method." It's the right one when it's only between a man and a woman, the only way to procreate.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end *coughsurrogatecough*
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@MsEndure2end
How does gay marriage impact the way that you practice your religion?
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end Question: Can you give me a reasonable argument against gay marriage, that isn't religious? Just a yes or no.
1AndrewTheWolf 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
Ask her how gay marriage impacts the way she practices her religion.... I'll bet she's unable to answer.
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end Honestly it's Christians like you who don't even respect marriage at all! Why don't you go protest Atheist Marriage, or basically every other religion's marriage. You denying two people in love to marry is the biggest offense against marriage. I just love how strangers can deny people to marry, it's sick.
1AndrewTheWolf 2 months ago
@1AndrewTheWolf
The Dark Ages were a bleak time. It's the enlightenment of the gospel of Jesus Christ that keeps us out of the dark.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
No, Ms Endure. Atheism predates the time of the Constitution by many centuries. The 5th-century BCE Greek philosopher Diagoras is known as the "first atheist". And the founding fathers, most of who were Deists, certainly knew about and discussed atheism.
Morals are determined by reasoning, rational discussion and philosophy, not some person's idea of what a god wants.
"Marriage is a lawfully protected religious instition"... false. It's a civil institution.
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
God has dealt with rebellion since Adam and Eve, and He continues to this day, as we see from comments here. Yet He remains loving and kind, blessing us when we choose to obey His commandments. A good example is to obey and respect the law of chastity.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
Wrong again, as usual. "God has dealt with rebellion...." You see, that's your problem. You keep on referring to your beliefs as facts. Don't you understand the difference?
The only thing that matters is that which all parties can agree on. Since we don't accept your religious beliefs, civil marriage for all couples, hetero or gay, is the only fair thing.
Don't attempt to shroud your bigotry in religion.... we're not falling for it.
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
Wrong again, as usual. "God has dealt with rebellion...." You see, that's your problem. You keep on referring to your beliefs as facts. Don't you understand the difference?
The only thing that matters is that which all parties can agree on. Since we don't accept your religious beliefs, civil marriage for all couples, hetero or gay, is the only fair thing.
Don't attempt to shroud your bigotry in religion.... we're not falling for it.
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
When you cry "we" are not "falling for it", what are you referring to? Your attitude is questionable. Who is "we?" I'm not selling a bill of goods here, but respectfully offering my opinion.
It is not about "fairness" or individual rights. Marriage is about children, and stabilizing society, and the blessing of God's plan, which is basic to our creation as man and woman.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
You are selling a bill of goods, & it's rotten. It IS about fairness, & civil rights.
Marriage is not only about children... that's a recent invention. Since you claim to know your scriptures so well, you know that marriage in the bible was a property transfer (daughter) from one man to another. Nothing about children or stabilizing society. So as usual, you're wrong again.
Tell us all, how does civil marriage for gays impact the way you practice your religion?
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
Marriage between a man and a woman is fundamental to the scriptures.
"Wherefore, it is lawful that he should have one wife, and they twain shall be one flesh, and all this that the earth might answer the end of its creation."
"For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh."
Gay marriage would sadly serve to destroy the sacredness of marriage, being in opposition to God's plan.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
You didn't answer the question! How does gay civil marriage affect the way you practice your religion?
I don't care about your religious mythologies, so stop quoting that crap. What real, everyday impact on you practicing your religion would gay marriage impose?
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
Gay marriage is wrong because it's contrary to God's plan.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
Wrong again. The question is, how does it impact the way you practice your religion?
If you're unable to answer, then just admit it.
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
In quoting the scriptures to you, it becomes obvious that marriage is about families, and always has been.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
In quoting the "scriptures", you're not getting anywhere with me, because they're not the word of any god.
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago
@TheKinderhookPlates
The scriptures are the word of God, the place where the idea of marriage was started.
The center of our religion is the family. God's plan of happiness includes families and must include the law of chastity.
MsEndure2end 2 months ago
@MsEndure2end
No, your scriptures are not the word of a god. And marriage existed long before the bible, so you failed on that one.
How does gay marriage impact the way that you practice your religion? Or are you going to be a coward and duck the question?
TheKinderhookPlates 2 months ago