I'm applying for combined BS/MD AND BS/DO degree programs. If I'm lucky enough to be accepted into either a MD or a DO program, I am content. If I graduate med school with an MD or a DO, I am content. The initials coming after your name aren't anything more. Being an MD doesn't mean your always a genius, and being a DO doesn't mean you weren't "good" enough for an MD school. You're ALL doctors on the other side, and that's the thing that matters the most when discerning between an MD or DO,
With that said, I believe that it is extremely conceited and egotistical of some people to think that MD's are always "better" than DO's. The truth is, there will always be good and bad doctors, regardless of their degree. The doctor you want is a doctor that is qualified to handle any type of medical situation, whether it be in the hospital, or in the checkup room. A doctor is a doctor. I have met many great MD's and DO's, and am currently shadowing a DO Anesthesiologist. Initials don't matter.
@FlightX101 Agreed wholeheartedly. I actually attend a BS/MD program now...but that's because I got rejected from my top choice BS/DO program (NYCOM).
I wanted it sooo bad, but I've grown to absolutely love my UG now. I may apply out...but we'll see. I assume you're going to apply to medical school soon? If so, good luck!
Glad there are some informed people here. D.O. IS a distinct profession from MD because of OMT. But it doens't mean that they are totally different. The founder of osteopathic medicine didn't think that Allopathic medicine was BS but thought there was something missing, so he introduced OMT and stressed that the body can heal itself. So if there are DOs embarrased by this, it is sad. I look at DOs as being MDs with the added beneift of OMT training and a philosophy that body & mind are same.
And the SAD thing is that PCOM years ago had a great OMT department. I don't know who is teaching now but there were masters there. And the first name in the profession is OSTEOPATHIC. How someone can be so so vain and egotistical not to humble themselves to make healing hand contact on their patient eludes me. It is EGO. Damn white coat syndrome. Very sad and shameful. DOs are not medical physicians they are OSTEOPATHIC PHYSICIANS. More should be doing the right thing and being real
Well that's funny then how come it occupies so much of the curriculum? I mean if it is not "mainstream". And if they don't "do that anymore" then what IS the DO difference? I mean why would I want to go to a DO family physician that did not manipulate? I would just go to an MD. I mean why would someone go to DO school if they were not going to manipulate along with their regular medical practice? That's a lot of credit hours for something they "don't do". Somethings fishy I think.
The truth is, the only difference is that a DO has the training in OMT, whereas an MD does not. Aside from that, you won't notice much of a difference between the two in the specialties, however in primary care, you may since they do seem to have a more holistic philosophy than an MD.
going to medical school, whether it be MD or DO is basically a broad survey of medicine, hence the extra training that is required to practice. Therefore, there will be a lot of things that physicians learn in medical school that they don't use in their every day practice, and for a lot of DOs, sometimes that happens to be OMT.
Well something sounds fishy. I mean they call the profession "osteopathic". Why would a person be a DO if they were not going to be distinct from an MD? Why would they even go to DO school and not have the MD degree which generally carries higher respect? I think that DOs are ashamed of their profession and want to be just like MDs. If they wanted that they should have gone to MD school and not been ashamed of something that helps folks so much. Pretty sleazy behavior I think. Cop out..
I don't think DOs are ashamed of their profession. Medical school, MD or DO is not easy to get into, and it is not true that the MD degree carries any higher respect, maybe among ill informed people like you, but not amongst the medical community.
The point is that if you do not practice OMT it is NOT a "profession" distinct from MD medicine. It is no different. So why would someone go? If there is no difference? And there is a difference between DOs and MDs in terms of credibility in the general publics eyes relative to medical practice and more advanced specialties. How can an ethical DC not manipulate folks and make them happier under their care? It is ego. They want to be perceived as "above" hands on contact. It is sad.
yes, that's true that DO and MD are basically an equivalent degree these days. As far as not going to a DO if he doesn't do OMT is ridiculous because the initials after one's name does, by no means, determine how "good" of a doctor that person is. There are shitty MDs and there are shitty DOs just as there are awesome doctors with both degrees.
The truth is that the majority of DOs have stabbed osteopathic practice as a distinct entity in the back. They want to be perceived as "above" human OMT contact for fear they will appear less doctorly. God forbid their God status as "physicians" be diffused by rubbing an old persons sore back or doing manipulation on a sick child that needs hand contact. It has to do with ego and the "white coat syndrome". It is sad any way you cut it. And PCOM used to have a great OMT dept. Maybe still..
My profession? Breaking down dysfunctional egos of physicians. Getting hands on contact back in medicine. No actually I am AT Still's ghost come back to haunt you. A real DO was like Dr Helig at PCOM or Dr Nicholas Sr. Those were REAL DOs. OMT is not some specialty field. It is the GORE of being an Osteopath. That's right kids I said it. OSTEOPATH!!!!! Drop the ego and be a full DO that really helps people and can give what MDs cannot. The OMT difference.
I'm applying for combined BS/MD AND BS/DO degree programs. If I'm lucky enough to be accepted into either a MD or a DO program, I am content. If I graduate med school with an MD or a DO, I am content. The initials coming after your name aren't anything more. Being an MD doesn't mean your always a genius, and being a DO doesn't mean you weren't "good" enough for an MD school. You're ALL doctors on the other side, and that's the thing that matters the most when discerning between an MD or DO,
Michael326 2 years ago 8
With that said, I believe that it is extremely conceited and egotistical of some people to think that MD's are always "better" than DO's. The truth is, there will always be good and bad doctors, regardless of their degree. The doctor you want is a doctor that is qualified to handle any type of medical situation, whether it be in the hospital, or in the checkup room. A doctor is a doctor. I have met many great MD's and DO's, and am currently shadowing a DO Anesthesiologist. Initials don't matter.
Michael326 2 years ago 6
@Michael326 I agree :)
I took a trip to PCOM a couple weeks ago and there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a DO.
FlightX101 11 months ago
@FlightX101 Agreed wholeheartedly. I actually attend a BS/MD program now...but that's because I got rejected from my top choice BS/DO program (NYCOM).
I wanted it sooo bad, but I've grown to absolutely love my UG now. I may apply out...but we'll see. I assume you're going to apply to medical school soon? If so, good luck!
Michael326 5 months ago
Glad there are some informed people here. D.O. IS a distinct profession from MD because of OMT. But it doens't mean that they are totally different. The founder of osteopathic medicine didn't think that Allopathic medicine was BS but thought there was something missing, so he introduced OMT and stressed that the body can heal itself. So if there are DOs embarrased by this, it is sad. I look at DOs as being MDs with the added beneift of OMT training and a philosophy that body & mind are same.
Ligeti43 2 years ago
And the SAD thing is that PCOM years ago had a great OMT department. I don't know who is teaching now but there were masters there. And the first name in the profession is OSTEOPATHIC. How someone can be so so vain and egotistical not to humble themselves to make healing hand contact on their patient eludes me. It is EGO. Damn white coat syndrome. Very sad and shameful. DOs are not medical physicians they are OSTEOPATHIC PHYSICIANS. More should be doing the right thing and being real
chilkatman 2 years ago
thats retarded.
and im a student at pcom..
thank you.
vbusce 3 years ago
do they have those at GA-PCOM there's not really much information out there about the GA campus
NativeChika 3 years ago
Yes this is all fine and easy to learn. But can they crack backs? That is what I want to know from my DO.
chilkatman 4 years ago
DOs don't really do that anymore...some do, but it's certainly not mainstream in osteopathic medicine.
AdemTD 2 years ago
Well that's funny then how come it occupies so much of the curriculum? I mean if it is not "mainstream". And if they don't "do that anymore" then what IS the DO difference? I mean why would I want to go to a DO family physician that did not manipulate? I would just go to an MD. I mean why would someone go to DO school if they were not going to manipulate along with their regular medical practice? That's a lot of credit hours for something they "don't do". Somethings fishy I think.
chilkatman 2 years ago
The truth is, the only difference is that a DO has the training in OMT, whereas an MD does not. Aside from that, you won't notice much of a difference between the two in the specialties, however in primary care, you may since they do seem to have a more holistic philosophy than an MD.
AdemTD 2 years ago
going to medical school, whether it be MD or DO is basically a broad survey of medicine, hence the extra training that is required to practice. Therefore, there will be a lot of things that physicians learn in medical school that they don't use in their every day practice, and for a lot of DOs, sometimes that happens to be OMT.
AdemTD 2 years ago
Well something sounds fishy. I mean they call the profession "osteopathic". Why would a person be a DO if they were not going to be distinct from an MD? Why would they even go to DO school and not have the MD degree which generally carries higher respect? I think that DOs are ashamed of their profession and want to be just like MDs. If they wanted that they should have gone to MD school and not been ashamed of something that helps folks so much. Pretty sleazy behavior I think. Cop out..
chilkatman 2 years ago
I don't think DOs are ashamed of their profession. Medical school, MD or DO is not easy to get into, and it is not true that the MD degree carries any higher respect, maybe among ill informed people like you, but not amongst the medical community.
AdemTD 2 years ago
The point is that if you do not practice OMT it is NOT a "profession" distinct from MD medicine. It is no different. So why would someone go? If there is no difference? And there is a difference between DOs and MDs in terms of credibility in the general publics eyes relative to medical practice and more advanced specialties. How can an ethical DC not manipulate folks and make them happier under their care? It is ego. They want to be perceived as "above" hands on contact. It is sad.
chilkatman 2 years ago
yes, that's true that DO and MD are basically an equivalent degree these days. As far as not going to a DO if he doesn't do OMT is ridiculous because the initials after one's name does, by no means, determine how "good" of a doctor that person is. There are shitty MDs and there are shitty DOs just as there are awesome doctors with both degrees.
AdemTD 2 years ago
The truth is that the majority of DOs have stabbed osteopathic practice as a distinct entity in the back. They want to be perceived as "above" human OMT contact for fear they will appear less doctorly. God forbid their God status as "physicians" be diffused by rubbing an old persons sore back or doing manipulation on a sick child that needs hand contact. It has to do with ego and the "white coat syndrome". It is sad any way you cut it. And PCOM used to have a great OMT dept. Maybe still..
chilkatman 2 years ago
what is your profession?
AdemTD 2 years ago
My profession? Breaking down dysfunctional egos of physicians. Getting hands on contact back in medicine. No actually I am AT Still's ghost come back to haunt you. A real DO was like Dr Helig at PCOM or Dr Nicholas Sr. Those were REAL DOs. OMT is not some specialty field. It is the GORE of being an Osteopath. That's right kids I said it. OSTEOPATH!!!!! Drop the ego and be a full DO that really helps people and can give what MDs cannot. The OMT difference.
chilkatman 2 years ago
I agree, it should be brought back into the profession more. But that's not the only thing a DO is good for.
AdemTD 2 years ago
NYCOM's got one of those...two if you count the ped robot :)
halalboy2000 4 years ago
PCOM
richardkopp13 4 years ago