This video of Derren Brown was shown on television a good few years before it was uploaded on here, it was one the very early episodes of his programme.
Other guy tried to suggest doing more test and seeing if the phone would sync and blah, blah blah. I cut him off and looked back at the manager and said This doesnt work and I need you to replace it. You will replace this today. In 10 minutes he came back with a new late model 2011 Mac Book Pro with a new 3 yr warranty! My friend could'nt believe it! As hard as he tried. Them trying to say its this or that. Maybe his backup drive was bad. After watching it helped me out..Idk about anybody else .
I don't know if this guy does real things or not but I believed I could give people suggestions myself after watching this. My friend had difficulty in getting Apple to replace his laptop for 2 weeks, hours in the store. I heard about what they had done and told him that i WILL get you a new $3,000 Laptop today. I believed it completely. I went down there. Asked for the manager again. He came Out and I looked him with total focus. And said you will give me a new laptop today. The other guy...
he promises not to use stooges, but he never promises that people aren't pre-primed, which is how I had deduced this and a lot of them. Eg, did he or someone talk to the workers in this video beforehand? Other tricks of his do exactly that as the display... omitting it seems fair because it still demonstrates how one could be primed to do something like, in this csae, give away money when we all think that its impossible.
He uses the same line "This is the dog you're looking FOR" for the 1st losing ticket also (which was number 2, not number 4), so that explanation is rubbish. Sorry.
SHOCK! This is the video your were looking FOUR! That's why you came to THREE WIN dows before! TWO WIN though you want to rate this ONE positive NOOOW!!!
I think he scared her. That's all there was to it.
I once almost got away with no paying for an item on one of the automatic self checkout machines. Something didn't scan properly and I put it in the bag. The machine said there was an unauthorised item in the bag. I believed it scanned properly so I directed a staff member to authorise it and she did. Then I realised it didn't scan, so I thought I'd scan I know I should pay for it.
@pr4nk5tr if the winning dog was number 5 he could look at the guy next to him and say "high five!" loud enough for the teller to hear. since the number 2 can be represented by the words two, too or to and the number 1 can be represented by one or won these numbers would be the easiest to make something up for. also if you notice when he said window he put more emphasis vocally on the word win in window as he said it. i wanna take a course in nlp , its pretty amazing :)
The tricks simple.. Shes been primed into a suggestive state 1-2 hours earlier . The words "No Actors and No Stooges" still allow them to prime people. In fact those words are shown in the show so prominantly to throw the viewer even further of guard of how simple the tricks actually are.
@o0smokingmonk0o do you hear him saying Russian "scam" video, hes clearly pointing out that what he does is some sort of trick. NLP is a legitimate technique used by other people. The way MystryBox acknowledged it seemed like criticism to me.
@UndefinableFlow It's called Russian Scam because the trick was a originally a scam the Russians used to do to steal people's wallets etc. It's based on the original scam.
Just because you can justify what Derren Brown is able to do does not make him any less of a person. I noticed you talking about how he did the russian "scam", he was willing to risk his life to show that NLP manipulation is possible under such circumstances. Derren Brown also mentions what he does in the dog track video at a much smaller extent. So until you can apply these techniques easily, you shouldn't criticizes what he does.
@UndefinableFlow this was hardly a criticism, he's explaining what's going on, for those who didn't pick it up in his video. This isn't the video you're looking for
You should make an e-book on NLP manipulation, and sell it. I think we lack this form of art in our everyday understanding, and therefore cannot utilize it. Plus, I would like to pick up women that way.
good to see how ignorant people are, hypnosis does work and yes magic does exist there are plenty of other energy around you that cant see but can use because you are in a 3rd demension view but there are 4th and many other demensions where you can use that energy such as what derren brown does is because he practices and knows his stuff he fully visualizes that she will give him the ticket as well as command it and transfer's energy. It is possible to do this and in a year yu could hypno 1000s
@mancltymagics1 The ambiguity of language, if that woman was aware, on any level, conscious or unconscious, that dough meant money. Then she was always aware. Covering all possibilites. Either way, the ambiguity is there. Be happy.
@joshthegoth Wow to all of you. But it's not just one aspect that gets people to take actions. Its everything as the package. The pattern interrupt, the embedded commands, the multiple ambiguities, the speed of delivery overloading conscious response.
It is fake. All tickets are individually numbered and the actual bet recorded against this number, the operator can't decide if a ticket is a winner or not. Doesn't matter how it was done, it is bullshit.
@CT2507 Yes I do understand fully. The video is a complete con. The players have been set up. If this woman is real and does this for a job. and did what is shown in this video for real, she would be loking for a new job the next day.
If you think this video represents anything near reality then you are a total twit and you need a shrink.
It's a magic trick and nothing more. A clever bit of sleight of hand. Browns MO is 'mind reading' and mentalism. It's a simple trick dressed up to look like he has some amazing power, but he doesn't. Any half decent magician could do his tricks.
my point and clarity still hold assault requires intention and effect where as battery requires intention and involves actual contact btw if you want to split hairs that statement is my intention and no actual harm was done so assault is a more proper word for a pissed off paragraph writer than battery
You know, I really don't think it's a coincidence that 'MystryBox' rhymes with 'Sucks c0cks'!!!! Endorsing thieving makes a robbing pikey council estate bast@rd!!!!! Go get a job and buy your goods!
I didnt really scroll down to far into the comments to see if any one had a similair idea, but i noticed everytime he kind of hit the side of the window to make a loud noise(distraction) and told her "this is the dog your looking for" so i was wthinking maybe some how tricking the teller into scanning the bar code again and just comparing dog names, and not even checking to see if the computer said the dog lost, and being confused and kind of timid she paid out
ye i use it alot sumtimes it works sumtimes it doesnt it all depends on the person you do it too. if they look daydreamy or abit dumb then it works. Iv dun with with train tickets bus tickets and betting slips most i got was £90 of a losing slip. its all thanks 2 the show . i went out and tried it after watchin with episode and it worked.
Good Psychological analysis. This confused me on the show because surely the scanner the women uses will declare a winning or losing ticket, regardless of the techniques Derren uses.
Good Analysis. I knew going into this video that it would be NLP/Patterns, and knew the window slap and window line were key... but I still missed it (totally missed the 4/FOR).
So the question is - could one Jedi use a Jedi Mind Trick on another Jedi?
As a social psychologist I have an alternative explanation: On each occasion the ticket holder was fairly unthreatening. Derren uses a threatening voice and an overtly hostile gesture suggesting to this woman the possibility of violence even though she is in a somewhat protected environment. At the end of her shift she would have to account for the short drawer. My guess is she would tell her boss about the incident, eat her loss, and just be thankful she still had a job.
@YD8189 as a social psychologist you're wrong because if you watch the whole video he does it on his own before hand sooooo he doesn't need an nonthreatening partner =P
why is every one missing the point its a TRICK people banging on about suggestion is so funny giving him more credit than he actually gives him self. He has said many times that its very simple stuff and very rarely relies on what you lot r claiming. And its not a stooge
@daveco1270 How about just watching the video first? The cashier lady says herself that the following interview that the machine showed the real winner. But due to the suggestion she handled it like a winning ticket anyway.
Another way it could have been done was outlined by an experiment done on 48 adult pedestrians in Brooklyn N.Y.. The experimenter dressed in a guard uniform, stopped a passerby, pointed to a confederate standing by a parking meter and said 'This man is overparked but doesn't have any change GIVE HIM A DIME!'. The experiment was also repeated but with the experimenter wearing casual clothes.
@MystryBox Haven't you ever seen the color trick Derren did on the woman, making her think her red car was a black car? The eyes see what they think they see, they glaze over so much. That's why if you go to sit in a familiar char, and someone moves it back a few inches, you'll fall flat on your butt. Most likely the screen was still reading "not a winner" (or whatever the message is) but since she thought she should be seeing thee "Winner: pay out" message, that's what she saw.
@MystryBox dude the trick is he throws her off by hitting the window, then just before she punches the key he says "for" so she hits the "4" key instead of 6 or what ever the number on the ticket is.
Most likely something in that vein... a switch the camera doesn't see. Or perhaps a winning ticket with one barcode doctored with a losing ticket barcode which is later removed. Something like that is a simple explanation that would easily work.
@MystryBox, do you think this would work when trying to get on a bus (using an oyster card)? For example, influencing the driver to believe the card works?
I totally agree that she would already be in a vulnerable state due to the repetitive nature of her job. Thats why I always suspect people who talk too much about random things while your counting money, or rush you like their in a big hurry. Ive been burnt a few times and learnt from it. Using Derrens techniques is a whole other ball game, you need to be very smart and on the fly at the same time. He is an excellent communicator, so much so it influences people. Interesting subject. Go Derren
ploiarxos1 egw 8a sou proteina na agoraseis to Mind Control 101 tou Dantalion jones(J., K. Ellis) gia mia wraia eisagwgh se nlp k genikotera mind control.
we are all able to do these things, you just need to open your mind . all derren has is a deeper understanding of how the human mind works and how pradictable all of us can be.
I have to say, I watched the lotto prediction and it got me intrigued in Derren. I watched his shows and when you watch a few closely together you really start to see certain patterns. So, I went and looked up NLP. I really only got a few pointers like anchoring and mirroring but this video and the Russian scam explanaition really helped put the pieces together for me. Another good one, unless you already did it and I just haven't seen it yet would be the blank money - 'just take it - its fine'!
GravityBoy72...v.good point about ppl believing the pseudo-explanations/red herrings that Derren gives. It is so annoying how NPLers jump on Derren's material and claim it as NLP.
lucyswfc what are you on? Apart from a council estate and drugs of course, that much is obvious!
I can't help the fact that I hate fking thiefs, but then I can understand why you don't! If you hated thieves too then you'd be a billy no mates in you council home wouldn't you!
I've seen an NLP Master Trainer give the same explanation (someone very close to Richard Bandler). However he suspects Derren also met all the cashiers before filming and selected the most susceptible one(s) and told them hypnotic stories about generosity and paying out. This would help ensure the success of this psychological trick (which does NOT involve sleight of hand).
THe way he is able to get paid out on the losing ticket is by manipulating the machine. We have all seen him manipulate people in trains, in cabs, on stage... well then this shuld also mean that he can manipulate machines as well. Because after all, machines are man made and since humans use them (like this woman) there is always lingering energy. SO he was paid out because he was able to get the machine to agree that his losing ticket was a winner. thoughts?
Surely you're overanalysing the trick and giving Derren Brown Jedi mind powers? It's a trick. He gives her a dud ticket first and while he's banging the window he substitutes it for a winning ticket by sleight of hand. Makes it look like a dud ticket is being paid out on. When he shows her that she's made a mistake he's back to showing her the dud ticket.
Read the video description and you'll see I agree with you. However I don't see a switch... it might be a doctored ticket.. might be a switch they don't show.
just my opinion: but you can see in the original video(2:04-2:06) that the ticket has a barcode (which has the info coded for verificaction) so the cashier scans the ticket and of course the nachine tells her is no good. When Brown hits the side of the window you can see the cashier almost laughing(smiling at least). This is rigged obviously just like the "live" stunts of Chris Angel... (unless they got a hacker changing the machine's response at the second check)
I don't think the woman is a plant. I'm sure it's a trick but one that works off a winning ticket being modified somehow to read incorrectly as a losing ticket on a casual reading. For example maybe the ticket has 2 barcodes and one has been replaced with a losing ticket barcode.
its nlp research it! he programmed her before the cshow then he bangs his hand in the kaosk! to get her re hyponotize and do as she is told. sorry about the spelling coz im pissed but search NLP its good stuff
Hmm.. I dont agree with the revealing of a magicians techniques. Im not sure (As a magician yourself) how you justify this.. But as this technique is not Derren's and he quickly moves onto other techniques and discards previous routines im sure he wont mind to much.. You don't mention the use of tonality though. And also "Marking out". So nobody will effectively be able to do this by just watching this vid.
who said she knew how much to give out and that she calculated it. She worked it out by looking at the odds on the ticket and because her subconscious was being manipulated she saw on the screen the most likely amount that should be paid out. Did she say whether she gave derren the correct winnings? No. Her subconscious mind simply calculated an approximate total of what should be won, probably the same amount as the last person with the same odd who came first.
it might work with scratch cards as long as you say this is the winning ticket and tell them how much you've won, i expect if you do it right it would work
Theres a bit more skill to it than that but you're pretty much right. Theres another Derren Brown episode where he goes round NY paying for shit like jewellery with blank pieces of paper. The basic idea is that he creates an instant rapport by engaging the cashier in conversation, then creates an unrelated story to keep their attention while he throws in subtle phrases like "she told me to just take it" to make them subconciously accept that the blank paper is legal tender. Genius.
i can explain how he did it. He told her that is a winning ticket, the number 4, he also said win. It made her not only think it was the winning ticket but made it look like to her that the computer said it too, so that confirmed it. She even mentioned the computer said to pay out the money.
Fine explanation, MystryBox. But I feel the real emphasis should be laid on Derren's uncanny ability to manipulate trains of thought. You can tell he is handling that lady's mind as if he were pushing buttons, all at the right time. And he is being slightly menacing. There is more to it than just saying words and banging the frame of the window.
Not so. . . Derren is a master of appearing to use more psychological techniques then he actually does. He is not a sort of puppet master. He is a skilled magician. Nobody can be manipulated without their consent. There are ways to covertly get consent unconsciously but you have a small window of time until the deductive reasoning kicks back in.. That woman in the office realized what she had done as soon as Derren left i'm sure...
You are definitely wrong. Nobody can be manipulated without their consent? Are people usually manipulated consensually? Does Derren Brown stick people's feet to the ground with their consent? He basically tells them what to do and they do it.
In his shows he asks you to think of something, but he has already told you what to think of...
Also, coincidentally, did you see the show where he convinced that guy he was a dummy? It was a 'trick'
Check out my channel.. Im an avid mentalism historian and an expert Hypnotist i also have a psychology degree. I write a lot of articles on Covert hypnosis and subliminal messaging for various Magic blogs and forums for amateur magicians... I work proffesionally as an artist and use subliminal messaging in my art.. So i know what im talking
These ARE the droids you're looking for.
romainechester 3 weeks ago
He is soo clever though
OnlyFlumq 1 month ago
This video of Derren Brown was shown on television a good few years before it was uploaded on here, it was one the very early episodes of his programme.
funkinbeats 1 month ago
Other guy tried to suggest doing more test and seeing if the phone would sync and blah, blah blah. I cut him off and looked back at the manager and said This doesnt work and I need you to replace it. You will replace this today. In 10 minutes he came back with a new late model 2011 Mac Book Pro with a new 3 yr warranty! My friend could'nt believe it! As hard as he tried. Them trying to say its this or that. Maybe his backup drive was bad. After watching it helped me out..Idk about anybody else .
AaronCountee 2 months ago
I don't know if this guy does real things or not but I believed I could give people suggestions myself after watching this. My friend had difficulty in getting Apple to replace his laptop for 2 weeks, hours in the store. I heard about what they had done and told him that i WILL get you a new $3,000 Laptop today. I believed it completely. I went down there. Asked for the manager again. He came Out and I looked him with total focus. And said you will give me a new laptop today. The other guy...
AaronCountee 2 months ago
he promises not to use stooges, but he never promises that people aren't pre-primed, which is how I had deduced this and a lot of them. Eg, did he or someone talk to the workers in this video beforehand? Other tricks of his do exactly that as the display... omitting it seems fair because it still demonstrates how one could be primed to do something like, in this csae, give away money when we all think that its impossible.
goingwithzed 2 months ago
"EDIT: After discussion with various people I think this particular effect was done by a trick, not hypnosis/persuasion"
Wait, is Derren Brown a fake? :(
Brewmaster757 3 months ago
@Brewmaster757 He's an illusionist.
manutd15754 2 months ago
Stooges, simple.
Syrocast 6 months ago
"these aren't the dogs your looking for"
TimelyPineapple 7 months ago
@TimelyPineapple "You can go about your business. Move along."
Ha! Nice.
RottenDoctorGonzo 2 months ago
Dammit Channel 4!
drno62 7 months ago
good work
MrIlikebigdick 7 months ago
He uses the same line "This is the dog you're looking FOR" for the 1st losing ticket also (which was number 2, not number 4), so that explanation is rubbish. Sorry.
jamstock 8 months ago
@jamstock That’s why we came 2 this WINdow.
This is the dog you’re looking 4.
Superheavyweight 5 months ago
SHOCK! This is the video your were looking FOUR! That's why you came to THREE WIN dows before! TWO WIN though you want to rate this ONE positive NOOOW!!!
Kalatiso 8 months ago
I think he scared her. That's all there was to it.
I once almost got away with no paying for an item on one of the automatic self checkout machines. Something didn't scan properly and I put it in the bag. The machine said there was an unauthorised item in the bag. I believed it scanned properly so I directed a staff member to authorise it and she did. Then I realised it didn't scan, so I thought I'd scan I know I should pay for it.
god0fgod 9 months ago
"Looking for" only works for ticket number 4, what would he say if it was ticket 5?
pr4nk5tr 11 months ago
@pr4nk5tr well, he'd say looking five, obviously, joke. :) he would probably use something else, like a gesture or something :))
MrEeqqee 11 months ago
@pr4nk5tr if the winning dog was number 5 he could look at the guy next to him and say "high five!" loud enough for the teller to hear. since the number 2 can be represented by the words two, too or to and the number 1 can be represented by one or won these numbers would be the easiest to make something up for. also if you notice when he said window he put more emphasis vocally on the word win in window as he said it. i wanna take a course in nlp , its pretty amazing :)
180wally 6 months ago
So they sell Candy Bars in Electronic stores in the US??
StaffTheBozo 1 year ago
The tricks simple.. Shes been primed into a suggestive state 1-2 hours earlier . The words "No Actors and No Stooges" still allow them to prime people. In fact those words are shown in the show so prominantly to throw the viewer even further of guard of how simple the tricks actually are.
DrOttodad 1 year ago
@o0smokingmonk0o do you hear him saying Russian "scam" video, hes clearly pointing out that what he does is some sort of trick. NLP is a legitimate technique used by other people. The way MystryBox acknowledged it seemed like criticism to me.
UndefinableFlow 1 year ago
@UndefinableFlow It's called Russian Scam because the trick was a originally a scam the Russians used to do to steal people's wallets etc. It's based on the original scam.
adamclancey 1 year ago
Just because you can justify what Derren Brown is able to do does not make him any less of a person. I noticed you talking about how he did the russian "scam", he was willing to risk his life to show that NLP manipulation is possible under such circumstances. Derren Brown also mentions what he does in the dog track video at a much smaller extent. So until you can apply these techniques easily, you shouldn't criticizes what he does.
UndefinableFlow 1 year ago
@UndefinableFlow lolwut?
Th1nkr90 1 year ago
@UndefinableFlow this was hardly a criticism, he's explaining what's going on, for those who didn't pick it up in his video. This isn't the video you're looking for
o0smokingmonk0o 1 year ago
You should make an e-book on NLP manipulation, and sell it. I think we lack this form of art in our everyday understanding, and therefore cannot utilize it. Plus, I would like to pick up women that way.
TheAstonMartian 1 year ago
good to see how ignorant people are, hypnosis does work and yes magic does exist there are plenty of other energy around you that cant see but can use because you are in a 3rd demension view but there are 4th and many other demensions where you can use that energy such as what derren brown does is because he practices and knows his stuff he fully visualizes that she will give him the ticket as well as command it and transfer's energy. It is possible to do this and in a year yu could hypno 1000s
doctamic 1 year ago
@doctamic ummm no, hes a mentalist look it up
thepictureman007 1 year ago
Window = win dough (dough = money)
BLUELUTRA 1 year ago
@BLUELUTRA
maybe if it was in America.. dough doesn't really mean money in Britain.
mancltymagics1 1 year ago
@mancltymagics1 The ambiguity of language, if that woman was aware, on any level, conscious or unconscious, that dough meant money. Then she was always aware. Covering all possibilites. Either way, the ambiguity is there. Be happy.
BLUELUTRA 1 year ago
@BLUELUTRA not a bad idea but its the win shes looking for, at the end of the day shes giving out the money not reeiving it!
thepictureman007 1 year ago
That guy was not very confident, he raises his eyebrows and dips his head in shame while making eye contact, weakness.
joshthegoth 1 year ago
@joshthegoth Wow to all of you. But it's not just one aspect that gets people to take actions. Its everything as the package. The pattern interrupt, the embedded commands, the multiple ambiguities, the speed of delivery overloading conscious response.
BLUELUTRA 1 year ago
tHERE'S NO SUCH THING AS MAGIC.
HUTINAK 1 year ago
darren you jedi
evkin117 1 year ago
fantastic videos, mystrybox. please do more debugging of other masterminds!
UltimateVenom 1 year ago
It is fake. All tickets are individually numbered and the actual bet recorded against this number, the operator can't decide if a ticket is a winner or not. Doesn't matter how it was done, it is bullshit.
xraytube111 1 year ago
@xraytube111 u dont understand. even if the machine says its a loosing ticket, the lady will STILL pay out the cash if she is convinced otherwise!
CT2507 1 year ago
@CT2507 Yes I do understand fully. The video is a complete con. The players have been set up. If this woman is real and does this for a job. and did what is shown in this video for real, she would be loking for a new job the next day.
If you think this video represents anything near reality then you are a total twit and you need a shrink.
xraytube111 1 year ago
@xraytube111 u are just an ignorant. study the subject of NLP before u start insulting people.
i can understand how many people are sceptical. but without proper knowledge they remain in the dark, like u.
CT2507 1 year ago
It's a magic trick and nothing more. A clever bit of sleight of hand. Browns MO is 'mind reading' and mentalism. It's a simple trick dressed up to look like he has some amazing power, but he doesn't. Any half decent magician could do his tricks.
silverbilly 1 year ago
if i met a cheap trash trick artist like derren brown it would be the first time i go to jail for assault and it would be worth every fucking punch
adrianeaglrck 1 year ago
@adrianeaglrck umm the word your looking for is battery not assault... assault would be saying your gonna punch him but never doing it...
Delithon 1 year ago
my point and clarity still hold assault requires intention and effect where as battery requires intention and involves actual contact btw if you want to split hairs that statement is my intention and no actual harm was done so assault is a more proper word for a pissed off paragraph writer than battery
adrianeaglrck 1 year ago
I'm from Argentina if you tried this you owe me existential hypnogogic scam you would get laughed at..personally I would get furious
adrianeaglrck 1 year ago
so basically u got a reciept for 2 candybars and 1 piece of merchandise along with 1 hot item .. nice trick
guilhermeesq 1 year ago
people don't say "dough" in england, they say "quid" or something, don't they?
epiphanyful 1 year ago
@epiphanyful quid is another word for a pound
owainmeurig 1 year ago
it's weird to see what the old youtube looked like
HockeyFights1890 1 year ago
window im surprised you didnt guess he actually says WIN-DOUGH dough as being money pretty much a double whammy phrase
blance01 1 year ago
What about dough? ...came to this WIN DOUGH...
zieglarf 1 year ago
You know, I really don't think it's a coincidence that 'MystryBox' rhymes with 'Sucks c0cks'!!!! Endorsing thieving makes a robbing pikey council estate bast@rd!!!!! Go get a job and buy your goods!
wordsofwisdom2009 1 year ago
I didnt really scroll down to far into the comments to see if any one had a similair idea, but i noticed everytime he kind of hit the side of the window to make a loud noise(distraction) and told her "this is the dog your looking for" so i was wthinking maybe some how tricking the teller into scanning the bar code again and just comparing dog names, and not even checking to see if the computer said the dog lost, and being confused and kind of timid she paid out
lordleynilknarf 1 year ago
ye i use it alot sumtimes it works sumtimes it doesnt it all depends on the person you do it too. if they look daydreamy or abit dumb then it works. Iv dun with with train tickets bus tickets and betting slips most i got was £90 of a losing slip. its all thanks 2 the show . i went out and tried it after watchin with episode and it worked.
Samboy666 1 year ago
Good Psychological analysis. This confused me on the show because surely the scanner the women uses will declare a winning or losing ticket, regardless of the techniques Derren uses.
Filbert111 1 year ago
Good Analysis. I knew going into this video that it would be NLP/Patterns, and knew the window slap and window line were key... but I still missed it (totally missed the 4/FOR).
So the question is - could one Jedi use a Jedi Mind Trick on another Jedi?
orwellophile 1 year ago
@orwellophile
As a social psychologist I have an alternative explanation: On each occasion the ticket holder was fairly unthreatening. Derren uses a threatening voice and an overtly hostile gesture suggesting to this woman the possibility of violence even though she is in a somewhat protected environment. At the end of her shift she would have to account for the short drawer. My guess is she would tell her boss about the incident, eat her loss, and just be thankful she still had a job.
YD8189 1 year ago
@YD8189 as a social psychologist you're wrong because if you watch the whole video he does it on his own before hand sooooo he doesn't need an nonthreatening partner =P
mrmebs 1 year ago
you suck!! you are messing up my searching for derren:(
raingod69 1 year ago
how can he come up with the suggestions so quickly, thats what amazes me, its the only thing i have difficulty with.
PCDTSME 1 year ago
i hate the new rating system
PeasantSongz 1 year ago
why is every one missing the point its a TRICK people banging on about suggestion is so funny giving him more credit than he actually gives him self. He has said many times that its very simple stuff and very rarely relies on what you lot r claiming. And its not a stooge
123columbo123 1 year ago
This is just all set up, she is just a stooge, derren brown is a trickster and the better he is at tricking you, the better the performer he is.
michaelz100 1 year ago
I love this clip from the track, but doesn't the machine read the ticket...not the person? You can't use NLP on a machine.
daveco1270 1 year ago
@daveco1270 How about just watching the video first? The cashier lady says herself that the following interview that the machine showed the real winner. But due to the suggestion she handled it like a winning ticket anyway.
blackicede 1 year ago
its awesome... could be very nice to have these skills :) I would abuse them all the time :) Teachers, Poker and impressing ladys :)
Rassamdul 1 year ago
That's what I thought too when I saw the video: He is a Jedi :)
ultort 1 year ago
You still don't explain how the computer generated the win?
Unshonwe 1 year ago
@Unshonwe It didn't generate a win, it generated a loss. She just thinks it generated a win due to the suggestions she had received.
Deidara85 1 year ago
Sir this is amazing.
anything4you05 1 year ago
so it wouldn´t work in any other language than english ?
Zabek2006 1 year ago
@Zabek2006 it will work you just need to get the right words, opposite to english where you got all the work done.
gchain 1 year ago
You just need to find the right words for your languages... the benefits that other languages have may not be the same that the english have
LboHans 1 year ago
this is an AWESOME video
you must do another analysis like this one ;D
McAlen 2 years ago 2
THis was freaking bad ass!
Please keep up analysis like these, they are awesome!
Is anyone else doing stuff like this, that you can point out?
Amazing!
Checker222 2 years ago 2
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oh man, you like talking crap
serratop 2 years ago
That's interesting.
Another way it could have been done was outlined by an experiment done on 48 adult pedestrians in Brooklyn N.Y.. The experimenter dressed in a guard uniform, stopped a passerby, pointed to a confederate standing by a parking meter and said 'This man is overparked but doesn't have any change GIVE HIM A DIME!'. The experiment was also repeated but with the experimenter wearing casual clothes.
83% obeyed the guard. 46% obeyed the civilian.
Psychol. Today April 1974 Bickman L
GodLogic100 2 years ago
wouldn't the sensors have gone off as u were leaving the shop since she didn't scan the other piece of electronics?
hellenic300 2 years ago
Crap!
JohnWhite67 2 years ago
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sammyj2211 2 years ago
lol, emphasizing the for/4 didn't do anything.
The second time he said the same thing and the winning dog wasn't four.
hoopz2598 2 years ago
@hoopz2598 Yes it was
EcstaticShaman 1 year ago
How do you learn this stuff?
Alba12349 2 years ago
So do you think these 'suggestive' NLP style techniques can actually work - especially in these circumstances?
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
With a computer read ticket? Unlikely.
MystryBox 2 years ago 2
have you ever tried anything like this? even by accident. just to try
korvlada 2 years ago
The end of the video tells a little story about where I did this.
MystryBox 2 years ago 4
@MystryBox Haven't you ever seen the color trick Derren did on the woman, making her think her red car was a black car? The eyes see what they think they see, they glaze over so much. That's why if you go to sit in a familiar char, and someone moves it back a few inches, you'll fall flat on your butt. Most likely the screen was still reading "not a winner" (or whatever the message is) but since she thought she should be seeing thee "Winner: pay out" message, that's what she saw.
TheSnuzzle 1 year ago
@MystryBox dude the trick is he throws her off by hitting the window, then just before she punches the key he says "for" so she hits the "4" key instead of 6 or what ever the number on the ticket is.
jamiegward1984 1 year ago
So what is it? Just a slight change of ticket with his hands away from the camera?
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
Most likely something in that vein... a switch the camera doesn't see. Or perhaps a winning ticket with one barcode doctored with a losing ticket barcode which is later removed. Something like that is a simple explanation that would easily work.
MystryBox 2 years ago
@MystryBox what a moronic theory
ryko26 1 year ago
@MystryBox, do you think this would work when trying to get on a bus (using an oyster card)? For example, influencing the driver to believe the card works?
itcrowdfan91 1 year ago
I totally agree that she would already be in a vulnerable state due to the repetitive nature of her job. Thats why I always suspect people who talk too much about random things while your counting money, or rush you like their in a big hurry. Ive been burnt a few times and learnt from it. Using Derrens techniques is a whole other ball game, you need to be very smart and on the fly at the same time. He is an excellent communicator, so much so it influences people. Interesting subject. Go Derren
rob00atUtube 2 years ago
i hate the fact, that in greece, suggestion with hidden messages is way too difficult
Orathac 2 years ago
are you greek re?
ploiarxos1 2 years ago
yes re
Orathac 2 years ago
asxolise me tetoia?giati molis ksekinisa me ayto to eidos ''mageias'' kai endiaferome na matho kai alla
ploiarxos1 2 years ago
asxoloumai me nlp kai ipnotismo, oxi toso me tin mageia. Alla einai endiaferon na vlepeis tetoia videakia.
ama thes mporo na sou proteino merika vivlia peri nlp.
Orathac 2 years ago
gia pes kanena.... thanks prokatabolika
ploiarxos1 2 years ago
NLP: The New Technology Of Achievement gia arxi, kai parallila afou to arxiseis diavase to The Big Book Of Nlp
Orathac 2 years ago
eyxaristo file...kati teleytaio mono...mporeis na ta promitheuteis apo opoiodipoe bibliopoleio i prepei na ta paragileis apo kapou sigekrimena?
ploiarxos1 2 years ago
pisteuo mporeis na ta vreis se ellinika vivliopolia to proto sigoura to deutero malon katevase to i paragkile to meso amazon ebay tipota tetoio
Orathac 2 years ago
thanks
ploiarxos1 2 years ago
ploiarxos1 egw 8a sou proteina na agoraseis to Mind Control 101 tou Dantalion jones(J., K. Ellis) gia mia wraia eisagwgh se nlp k genikotera mind control.
asophosa 2 years ago
This is the DOG you're looking FOR/4, that's why we came to this WINdow. ( dog 4 win)
Sethtyphon 2 years ago
I've only recently got into this power of suggestion and misdirection.... I really wish i had discovered it earlier. My gaze is fixed for now.
ashman102 2 years ago
we are all able to do these things, you just need to open your mind . all derren has is a deeper understanding of how the human mind works and how pradictable all of us can be.
robinothemagnificent 2 years ago
your so right
it worked on my friend because he was in on it also
lol
bigbother1 2 years ago
I have to say, I watched the lotto prediction and it got me intrigued in Derren. I watched his shows and when you watch a few closely together you really start to see certain patterns. So, I went and looked up NLP. I really only got a few pointers like anchoring and mirroring but this video and the Russian scam explanaition really helped put the pieces together for me. Another good one, unless you already did it and I just haven't seen it yet would be the blank money - 'just take it - its fine'!
lurvbabe 2 years ago
Context disguise (again).
What YOU think you are seeing is not the reality.
You have no idea of full context nor is there any continuity. THIS IS A FACT, don't even try and argure it.
You seriously need to question what you see more.
GravityBoy72 2 years ago
Yeah everyone tells me I don't question what I see enough. That's my biggest problem, obviously.
MystryBox 2 years ago
Listen to them, it's sound advice.
There is hope for you yet.
The think is that people are way too trusting of what they are told on the TV. It's even worse when Politicans and the News media play the same games.
Question everything, don't take anything at face value and you'll do well.
GravityBoy72 2 years ago
I see that sarcasm is lost on you.
Read the video description--I'm well aware this is a trick.
MystryBox 2 years ago
Yes but you think it's the trick that Derren Brown wants you to think it is.
You haven't see beyond that.
Do you know what happened before and in between the filmed sequences in this video?
No, of course you don't. You have no context for what you see except the context created for you by Derren Brown.
That's the way he works.
GravityBoy72 2 years ago
Um, no. Read a few comments down from some days back and you'll see how I think it was done.
MystryBox 2 years ago
Ah.. apologies.. I see you changed your mind from what you say in the video.
You now think its a trick.
Good.. you're right.
It's always a trick with Derren.
He dresses old tricks up with NLP garbage to give him the edge over the competition.
I think more people are getting it now.
GravityBoy72 2 years ago
GravityBoy72...v.good point about ppl believing the pseudo-explanations/red herrings that Derren gives. It is so annoying how NPLers jump on Derren's material and claim it as NLP.
TheBeyonder9 2 years ago
Nice try at saying you got a free electrical thing, that strory was complete bull hahah
1q1q1q1qjigsaw 2 years ago 2
Ohh yeahh thats what the old youtube player looked like oh nice videobtw lol
thenameless191993 2 years ago
Lock your Grandmas up, Mr Box is out buying candy bars again (thats confectionary or chocolate in English)!
Youd think being such a fat bastard hed lay off the chocolate by now
And yes Brown is a robbing fker too!
wordsofwisdom2009 2 years ago
wordsofwisdom2009 - heres some words of wisdon for you. Change your name! You talk shit!!
Oh and by the way, in England, we know what a 'candy bar' is thankyou very much. And FYI, we dont say "confectionary".
lucyswfc 2 years ago
lucyswfc what are you on? Apart from a council estate and drugs of course, that much is obvious!
I can't help the fact that I hate fking thiefs, but then I can understand why you don't! If you hated thieves too then you'd be a billy no mates in you council home wouldn't you!
Go get laid and stop stressing!
wordsofwisdom2009 2 years ago
wordsofwisdom2009 Hahaha your funny! :-)
I never mentioned anything about thieves did I? Yeah, you got me! I just love thieves.. What you gonna do about it? NOTHING.
Here's an English phrase for you..
BORE OFF!!!! :-)
lucyswfc 2 years ago
"wordsofwisdom2009 Hahaha your funny! :-)"
Thank you!!! thank you!!! I'm here same time tomorrow!!! Thank you!!!
wordsofwisdom2009 2 years ago
You don't maintain fat bastard status by laying off the chocolate!
MystryBox 2 years ago
The candy bar thing makes YOU a THIEF!!!! I fking hate THIEVES!!! Go back and pay for your goods you stealing robbing bastard!
Thieving is THIEVING, whether its an electrical item or an OLD LADIES PURSE!
wordsofwisdom2009 2 years ago
Is this your watch? I found it just lying here unused on your arm, heh.
MystryBox 2 years ago
I've seen an NLP Master Trainer give the same explanation (someone very close to Richard Bandler). However he suspects Derren also met all the cashiers before filming and selected the most susceptible one(s) and told them hypnotic stories about generosity and paying out. This would help ensure the success of this psychological trick (which does NOT involve sleight of hand).
Previewh 2 years ago
if you think about it he actually said WIN-DO the DO as in money!
8edges 2 years ago
Didn't know Derren was famous in America. Or wherever the fuck you're from.
MOWYWewan 2 years ago
I'm the fuck from California, and no he's not that well known here. But he should be.
MystryBox 2 years ago
Well I have my own theory.
THe way he is able to get paid out on the losing ticket is by manipulating the machine. We have all seen him manipulate people in trains, in cabs, on stage... well then this shuld also mean that he can manipulate machines as well. Because after all, machines are man made and since humans use them (like this woman) there is always lingering energy. SO he was paid out because he was able to get the machine to agree that his losing ticket was a winner. thoughts?
CornbreadDupree 2 years ago
Surely you're overanalysing the trick and giving Derren Brown Jedi mind powers? It's a trick. He gives her a dud ticket first and while he's banging the window he substitutes it for a winning ticket by sleight of hand. Makes it look like a dud ticket is being paid out on. When he shows her that she's made a mistake he's back to showing her the dud ticket.
FlyBoyGrounded 2 years ago
Read the video description and you'll see I agree with you. However I don't see a switch... it might be a doctored ticket.. might be a switch they don't show.
MystryBox 2 years ago
just my opinion: but you can see in the original video(2:04-2:06) that the ticket has a barcode (which has the info coded for verificaction) so the cashier scans the ticket and of course the nachine tells her is no good. When Brown hits the side of the window you can see the cashier almost laughing(smiling at least). This is rigged obviously just like the "live" stunts of Chris Angel... (unless they got a hacker changing the machine's response at the second check)
jackflag 2 years ago
I don't think the woman is a plant. I'm sure it's a trick but one that works off a winning ticket being modified somehow to read incorrectly as a losing ticket on a casual reading. For example maybe the ticket has 2 barcodes and one has been replaced with a losing ticket barcode.
MystryBox 2 years ago
its nlp research it! he programmed her before the cshow then he bangs his hand in the kaosk! to get her re hyponotize and do as she is told. sorry about the spelling coz im pissed but search NLP its good stuff
tonyreno123 2 years ago
THIEF!!! Go back and pay for that!
Trepidity 2 years ago
Yeah, I've thought about it. Bottom line is I'm too lazy to go out of my way to fix someone else's mistake.
MystryBox 2 years ago
No way, Dont pay for it, What were you thinking, hehe
SimonBunker 2 years ago
... on accident ... butcher the english language
autho-rit-at-ive ... i thought you sounded intelligent at first ...
richthe1 2 years ago
We Americans do that on purpose to piss you brits off. Glad to see it still works, heh.
MystryBox 2 years ago
the original video is banned in the uk, does anyone know where i can watch it. Or which series it was in or anything.
sumfinorother 2 years ago
Erm no it isn't....n00b cake...4oD says hi
JammieJoker 2 years ago
cheers noob jockey. whys it banned on tube
sumfinorother 2 years ago
its banned on 4oD too u bastard - the only episode that is!! so whos the n00b cake now
sumfinorother 2 years ago
Erm fist of all ya'll need to calm the fuck down and realize that your all WRONG HAHAHAHHA
jk but u all r 2 srs for my liking
Oh and UR THE N00B CAKE
SUCK ON THAT!!
JammieJoker 2 years ago
share the love, WHERE IS IT?
sumfinorother 2 years ago
Hahahaha sorry sumfinorother I hope this dosn't affect our 1 week of acknowleding eachother
oh and....
excuse my french xx :)
JammieJoker 2 years ago
why can't u tell me?
face it, just like JammerJoker, you don't really know where it is. . . .
sumfinorother 2 years ago
haha if this guy can make people give up there belongings and money, then he can make you believe in god!
DarkAndMartyr 2 years ago
Nice theory but I think an atheist would rather do quite the opposite of making you believe in any sort of god!
SoupyGeorge 2 years ago
So is Derren amazingly good, unlike any other. Or can I learn how to mind rape people too?
92benno92 2 years ago
Hmm.. I dont agree with the revealing of a magicians techniques. Im not sure (As a magician yourself) how you justify this.. But as this technique is not Derren's and he quickly moves onto other techniques and discards previous routines im sure he wont mind to much.. You don't mention the use of tonality though. And also "Marking out". So nobody will effectively be able to do this by just watching this vid.
R1cku1n0x 2 years ago
who said she knew how much to give out and that she calculated it. She worked it out by looking at the odds on the ticket and because her subconscious was being manipulated she saw on the screen the most likely amount that should be paid out. Did she say whether she gave derren the correct winnings? No. Her subconscious mind simply calculated an approximate total of what should be won, probably the same amount as the last person with the same odd who came first.
russell19831983 2 years ago
it might work with scratch cards as long as you say this is the winning ticket and tell them how much you've won, i expect if you do it right it would work
russell19831983 2 years ago
Theres a bit more skill to it than that but you're pretty much right. Theres another Derren Brown episode where he goes round NY paying for shit like jewellery with blank pieces of paper. The basic idea is that he creates an instant rapport by engaging the cashier in conversation, then creates an unrelated story to keep their attention while he throws in subtle phrases like "she told me to just take it" to make them subconciously accept that the blank paper is legal tender. Genius.
urmumsbaps 2 years ago
i can explain how he did it. He told her that is a winning ticket, the number 4, he also said win. It made her not only think it was the winning ticket but made it look like to her that the computer said it too, so that confirmed it. She even mentioned the computer said to pay out the money.
russell19831983 2 years ago
Thank you!
TheRealAsen 2 years ago
1st one is called direct suggestion e.g. in ur face this is the winning ticket
powercord123456 2 years ago
Feel free to learn how to do the handshake induction via my channel. What DB did here is very easy to do when you know how.
BOSS7977 2 years ago
Fine explanation, MystryBox. But I feel the real emphasis should be laid on Derren's uncanny ability to manipulate trains of thought. You can tell he is handling that lady's mind as if he were pushing buttons, all at the right time. And he is being slightly menacing. There is more to it than just saying words and banging the frame of the window.
munrais 2 years ago
As I say in the description, after a lot of discussion after making the video I think this is a trick not suggestion.
MystryBox 2 years ago
Thanks for your reply. What do you mean by trick?
munrais 2 years ago
Not so. . . Derren is a master of appearing to use more psychological techniques then he actually does. He is not a sort of puppet master. He is a skilled magician. Nobody can be manipulated without their consent. There are ways to covertly get consent unconsciously but you have a small window of time until the deductive reasoning kicks back in.. That woman in the office realized what she had done as soon as Derren left i'm sure...
R1cku1n0x 2 years ago
I'm not revealing any magic secrets on this video or any of my videos.
MystryBox 2 years ago
You are definitely wrong. Nobody can be manipulated without their consent? Are people usually manipulated consensually? Does Derren Brown stick people's feet to the ground with their consent? He basically tells them what to do and they do it.
In his shows he asks you to think of something, but he has already told you what to think of...
Also, coincidentally, did you see the show where he convinced that guy he was a dummy? It was a 'trick'
thejanitor99 2 years ago
Check out my channel.. Im an avid mentalism historian and an expert Hypnotist i also have a psychology degree. I write a lot of articles on Covert hypnosis and subliminal messaging for various Magic blogs and forums for amateur magicians... I work proffesionally as an artist and use subliminal messaging in my art.. So i know what im talking
R1cku1n0x 2 years ago
Didn't do a very good job of spelling or convincing me...
thejanitor99 2 years ago
by accident. not on accident
stevendurr 2 years ago
And you are supposed to capitalize the B in "by" and the N in "not" if you want to get technical.
VvLestatvV 2 years ago
I loved your analysis. It makes so much sense. I am amazed how this stuff works. Thanks for your insights
ruelemoine 2 years ago
Someone tried to scam my wallet from me. He tried shaking my hand and I said "FUCK OFF YOU HOMO, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU"
That wiped his smile off his confident face.
If you are strong minded...you will not get tricked.
I remember Derren trying to trick a guy from new york.
It didn't work.
nistelsoi 2 years ago
Because he's from "New York" right....lol
madzangels 2 years ago