Another lost soul who misinterprets and has zero understanding of the scriptures. Also NOTHING Sister Daulton said was wrong in the least bit...just another stupid anti mormon video with no originality and once again, regurgitated slander
This chick is so typical of the deceived Mormonite. You pour your life out in tithes and then when the cult gives back to you 10% of the 100% of what you gave them, you call this a great kindness. But then we the people pour out our lives in social security taxes (20%) and a host of other taxes and never give it a moments thought. But my SS tax isn't done in the name of a polygamous polytheistic god.
why don't you leave other belive what they want and you belive what you want every one as his own understanding of the bible and of things that are spiritual this women is just giving her expirnce to people who are liked minded and you should’t comment and judge on others teachings(spirtual) just try to judge your teaching for now take my word .(I am not a Mormon )
@AaronScifo2 Why you ask? Because scriptual tells us to "contend earnestly for the faith", that's why. Mormons say they are Christians but like this video points out, mormonism is the opposite of Christianity in so many ways. You say "you shouldn't comment or judge" but as long they say they are Christians I will fight them to the end of time.
@Jhughes105 Let god judge not you and who are you to say what Christianity is can't you see how many different types of understating of the bible their is what makes yours so good then the others that's what so disgusting about Christians they cant even read a book all of them want to change others to their belief and then they start a another branch of Christianity. leave them in pace
Mormonism is a lie out of hell filled with disception from it's origin. Googel Sandra Tanner, great,great grandaughter of the infamous Brigham Young and review documented criticism from her on the wicked lies of this demonic religion.
You are distorting what she said. We receive blessings both from the simple mercy of the Lord. He may choose to give us a blessing or to withhold it, expecially from those who do not live His commandments. Pres. Hinckley counseled her to live so that they are worthy to receive that blessing, because the Lord is not bound to bless those who violate the commandments of God.
@cdowis Being an ex-Mormon of 20 yrs and after watching this I don't see that her words are being distorted. The Lord blesses many who aren't deemed worthy according to the laws and obedience of the LDS church. Rely solely on the Lord Jesus Christ and follow him only, not a prophet, and you will be eternally blessed. May God bless you.
no one gets into heaven (or blessings from God) on their own merit. Christianity 101 - if a gift is earned then it is not a gift. if a person could get to heaven or be blessed aside from the atonement of Jesus on the cross, then Jesus died in vain. the Mormon Religion offers a counterfeit salvation...
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Men of God dont waste their days trying to disprove other religions. If you dont beleive it, simply dont practice it and leave others to follow their beliefs.
@wyanceyful..Scripture commands of Christ's followers to go forth and preach the Gospel and says that we are to Correct and rebuke Religions such as Mormonism. LEts read James 5:20 - "Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins" it is out of love that Christians are to guide souls out of Religion and into Redemption. Christianity made into religion is not Christian! Come theres still time
""God is an exalted man, Jesus is a created being (sex between God and Mary) and the spirit brother of Satan"
I see antimormons bring round and round those same declarations. But it is very curious that they don´t provide the evidence that If those declarations have passed the process required to be considered as official doctrine.
The omission alone shows their dishonesty.
Antimormons are dishonest.
And the more they spend attacking another faith, the more they look ridiculous.
@Jack44-Anti's don't get to decide what is doctrine and what is not. Many Prophets have taught that our doctrine is our cannonized scripture, similar to you bible thumper. Course your Bible has created thousands of churches all from the same "perfect" book. smirk.
@Jack44M Why do I have to answer you when you still haven´t answered my previous posts, even what you asked me to list?
Ploy? Is that what you do or are you going to deny that you bring round and round the same alleged official declarations. If you feel alluded you revealed yourself alone. LOL
I don´t share either your ludic style nor I am not asking more than what I am answering.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
SBGTF - salvation by grace thru faith, not of one's work that he can boast about. Funny that LDS knows about the death atonement of Jesus but they don't understand it's application. It still boils down to 'salvation by good works'. But what is their salvation? Do they believe in the same heaven and kingdom that Jesus taught? Do they believe in the same hell? I truly feel sorry for them. The knowledge of the truth is in their midst but they listen to the words of a man than to the Bible itself.
@tuberobotto "The knowledge of the truth is in their midst but they listen to the words of a man than to the Bible itself."
Oh please, 'the bible' itself isn't even real. There are a dozen different bibles with different cannons, all chosen for different reasons. You're basically a 'my version of god is more real than your version of god' person.
@tuberobotto - Whether one believes in salvation by grace only or that works also play a part is really not what Gods going to care about. roll eyes. I've heard bible thumpers like yourself tell me that Gods going to throw people in hell if they believe in works as a measure of our salvation. roll eyes. So Gods going to care what I believe beyond that Christ is my savior? I do good works and believe that's important and he's going to throw me in hell?
@tuberobotto- No, we do not believe in the same hell as you all do, as the God you teach is going to throw most of the inhabintants of the earth in torture of fire and brimstone for the most ridiculous things, We believe God is not as hateful and monsterious as you all teach him to be. I could never believe in the Bible thumper way of teaching, it teaches a hateful God.
Since they don't believe in the same gospel as born-again christians, what god are they praying to? Which lord? They are not regenerated and therefore don't have a relationship with Jesus. That means they are still living in the state of sin.
Isaiah 59:1-2 Behold, the LORD's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Mormons claim the Apostle John did not die and he will "tarry until Jesus' 2nd coming". But, they also say he is a "resurrected being". How can he be resurrected if he hasn't died?
You have GIVEN ME NO scriptures to support what you say, except the weak ones. I have Given you several and you have not even took a shot at understanding them. You are a very ignorant dude. I feel bad for ya, You got a big mouth but with nothing but your opinion to support your devilish concept.
uummmmmm why dodge my questions? how do you feel that there are scriptures in the bible that go completely against your concept? you just keep going in circles brother lol
I gave you my scriptures, asked you questions, you said nothing about them.
@Jack44M "this really hasnt been any kind of conversation, just me giving you scriputures and you DUCKIN "
Yes you are a troll because most of your comments are calling names, and a coward because you avoid questions and topics you asked previously and run away without face them.
Everyone has cults. Guess your cult is bashing the lds faith.
@Jack44M- Wow, I see your obsession with the LDS faith is growing. LOL Sad really, get a life anti's, you and your buddies are sick in the head, need OCD medications. The church is true, it is you all that have the false doctrine.
Your church is a cult that teaches God is an exalted man, Jesus is a created being (sex between God and Mary) and the spirit brother of Satan. That pretty much sums it up. Nobody cares about you or what you say.....lol
@Jack44M - Does your preacher teach that running around calling other religions a cult is going to bring them to Christ? Is that the Love that you bring to the world? roll eyes.
@Jack44= Just pointing your churches teachings, I can't help if they teach of a hateful and monsterous God,
But keep it up guys, I would never convert to your faith, but we just baptized a Baptist friend of mine, who saw truth when he heard it, guys like you are why mainstream Christianity is a dieing faith...
Google it and see, they aren't buying the hateful God you all teach anymore.
@Jack44- You can't google "Christians leaving faith"??? And verify people are not buying your teachings about God, and how he is going to throw most of the people who have ever lived on earth, over 70% of them, in torture for eternity, for what? Something as silly as they thought works were important, or didn't believe the trinity doctrine. LOL Really? That's all it takes to go to hell? roll eyes.
@Jack44M - Yea, we've already seen the anti claims that are not substantiated, they will make up anything to make the church look bad.
Now, back to the point, the bible thumper church is losing membership in droves, nobody is buying that God is going to throw most of his children in hell for eternity for something as small as they didn't believe the impossible to understand trinity. roll eyes.
Keep denying the facts....fool. lol The source for quite of bit of data is cumorah(dot)com. One of your fellow cult members called it an antimormon nut site. That's the usual excuse, but if you check the "about us", you'll see the contributors are LDS.
@Jack44M -Typical circular logic for a Bible thumper (BT) goes like this, how is one saved? BT says.. You have to believe in Christ, ok, so what happens to those who fall away, or continue to sin, BT says, oh they were never really saved. LOL roll eyes.
So if you sin, you aren't really saved? BT- Yes. So your expected to be perfect? BT- No, not perfect, But you just said those who continue to sin are not really saved?
roll eyes. And so goes their round and round idiociocy.
@Jack44M - We've already looked/discussed at the "convicted" part and he was never convicted of anything, as far as the ways he translated the Book Of Mormon, he did it three ways, he used the Urim and Thummin, (OT Biblical) he used a seer stone, (in the hat) and near the end he just translated from the pages themselves, So what? Whats the point? Does that he used a Hat make him a con man? LOL
You don't understand scriptures and what's in scriptures is hte problem. roll eyes.
What makes him a fraud and a con man is his Oct 1837 conviction....at trial.
Once again, you lie. You say "near the end he just translated from the pages themselves". According to the witnesses, the plates weren't even present. You also use a false assertion about the U&T as a biblical reference. They were NEVER used to translate anything.
The point is you have to lie and make false assertions to prop up your cult.
@Jack44M What does conviction have to do with anything anyways? The apostles of Christ and Christ Himself was convicted also. You argument is childish and baseless.
@blackmamba- True, what the Bible thumpers don't get is many Prophets in the Bible did some pretty horrible things, did that make them not Prophets? No, it did not.
Jonah ran from God, hid, did not want to go preach in Ninevah, he was afraid, God had to humble him, then he complied to Gods will.
@Jack44- We've already discussed the 1837 "conviction" the evidence was stolen by a Reverend, who doctored it, then had to be threatened with legal action if he didn't return it. What the idiot didn't realize is their was no trial in the case, which there would have had to have been in those days which signatures of jurors, the document didn't have any of this, proving a fraud.
The dishonest reverand was too dumb to know this. LOL
@Jack44M "you will run and hide like all the other Mormons who can't back up their mouth"
I can´t believe you were saying this. Do you suffer from amnesia? Here we could count how many times you did so. You ask , then don´t answer. worst even.
"you will run and hide like all the other Mormons who can't back up their mouth"
I can´t believe you were saying this. Do you suffer from amnesia? Here we could count how many times you did so. You ask , then don´t answer. worst even.
@Jack44- The plates weren't even present? roll eyes. More anti Nonsense.
Emma wrote after serving as scribe... "After meals, or after interruptions, [Joseph] would at once begin where he had left off from the plates, ("Last Testimony of Sister Emma," Saints' Herald, Oct 1, 1879, p 290
All the scribes said he had he plates he read from. roll eyes.
That's the poorest anti nonsense, your getting weaker with your anti nonsense.
.....really, they said that? How about some quotes where he had the plates before him while he translated. That would mean they saw the plates with their natural eyes....would love to see that quote. His FIL, via Emma, said they were hidden in the woods during translation.
"he had he plates he read from.." How is he reading from them when his face is stuck in his hat. You know, the one with the magic rock. rofl
@Jack44-The sad part is you are becoming like eag11e, he's been here almost 2 years, day after day, posting the same thing over and over. Talk about no life, you two are becoming twins!!! Your both sick in the head, obsessed with somthing you don't believe in. I mean seriously, If I didn't believe in Catholicism or Buddism, I wouldn't spend my life posting about it.
What losers you both are, your poor families, your head is stuck in a computer all day, get a LIFE!!!
These clowns we call Mormon defend a religion founded by a convicted con man who wrote a joke of a book; translating it by sticking a magic rock in a hat.
Previous Mormon Prophets and Apostles proclaimed Adam was God, Polygamy was essential for salvation (exaltation), Blood Oaths, Blacks could not hold the priesthood until Jesus' 2nd coming...etc.
Yesterday's Truth = Today's Heresy
What heresies are being proclaimed as truth today by the current crop? Think about it before you join this cult......
Your scripture condemns all other churches and you say the Mormon Church changes with the times. So, the question is are you renouncing your bigoted scripture in 1Nephi 14:10?
@Jack44M I'm an atheist, we don't have 'scripture'. Please alleviate your ignorance with some education. And by education, I mean a real college, not some stupid christian book or college. I can't make it any clearer than that.
Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth -- 1 Nephi 14:10
....Mormon scripture condemns every other church on the planet; and yet they whine about hate speech. lol Not only are they hypocrites, but bigots as well.
Typical response from a whining Mormon....run and hide behind the "hate card" when someone criticizes your cult. What makes it especially funny is your scripture condemns ALL other churches and religions. Now, that's hate.....lol
@Jack44M In the end we will be judged by what we practiced. We practice the commandments and our articles of faith.
N° 11: "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."
That is not hate. The scripture you quoted was strictly given to Mr. Smith.
@blackmamba54321 Jack44M is a troll he believes what he wants and he is a bigot stucked in a state of hatred with lack of good arguments that is why his insults abound.
lol....so true. Profit is their Prophet; look no further than the 3 Billion they are dumping into the SLC real estate project. Hinckley announced the projected cost would be less than 1B when they started and the TRUE cost grows faster than B Young's beard. lol
@Jack44M Over time, real estate has proven the most reliable investment of all, so if making money with your money is crime, so be it, Since they paid my mortgage for 8 months last year, not to mention countless others, I would say we have little to complain about.
@Jack44M I am sure I laughed and I laugh much more than all of you together. You look bad when you only use insults to defend your position. Anyway your position is the position of the loosers. Enough said.
Jack44M lost his temper easily.He is not in Christ. He is eager at calling names. You can believe me or not. Just take a little time to see his claims to notice he is obsessed with lds doctrine.
@Jack44M for some reason anti-mormons come up with the same lies and rumors.nope not afraid to answer i have answered you dont like the answer to fit you pre-concieved notions,but keep up the poor work keep on misleading and misrepresenting the mormon faith you low-life scumbag
I quote your so called apostles AND cite the source; but I can understand why you get upset. You don't want folks to learn the truth about your cult. If that offends you....tough.
@Jack44M you havnt presented me any truth just more of the same old bullshit your anti-mormon cronies are feeding,yeah laugh it if it makes you feel tough and secure under the keyboard,so 9what "truth" do you have of course we want people to know the truth,your so ignorant of what we believe,your an idiot!
@Jack44M you are so off based about the mormons beliefs,cult if it makes you feel big and tuff by calling us a cult go right ahead,yeah you dont have the full context of it do you? i didnt think so either i could careless about grammar its not like i am taking some freaking exam you jackass!
@getdownto311 JackM4 is a troll I analized him. He doesn´t even live the Bible which defend blindly to the point to deny its errors despite of experts conclusions.
"Debate"? that's a joke. lol Mormons are merely looking to vomit their cult's garbage. If they were sincere about debating they would subscribe to general and accepted practices such as exegesis, sola scriptura, and hermeneutics to substantiate their position.
@Jack44M I sent you some errors of the Bible. I should said "discuss". What are you talking about now? Is that your way to avoid facing the errors of the Bible?
You've got 2 problems. First, I don't subscribe to Verbal Plenary Inspiration so you'll need to find someone who does and address your concerns with them. Secondly, "debate" or "discuss"....as long as you don't subscribe to general and accepted practices such as exegesis, sola scriptura, and hermeneutics; I'm not wasting my time. You really aren't very bright; while you won't admit it, you know that you aren't.
@Jack44M Mormons are merely looking to vomit their cult's garbage
You mean garbage like...
Christ is our Saviour. He atoned for our sins.Was crucified and on the 3rd day was resurrected.That He created all things that are in Heaven and earth.That we can by Obedience to Him become heirs with Him to All that the father has. That He Lives today with the very same resurrected glorified perfected immortal body that the ancient apostles and saints walked and talked with for 40 days ...cont.
40 days aftr His resurrection.That garbage?That we believe we Must obey His commandments in order to receive His blessings in our lives.That he is Not at our beck and call to give us whatever we Want Just for the asking? How is that gonna develope ones Faith and trust in Him.
Perhaps that He indeed appeared to the ancient inhabitants of the Americas?Had prophets among His children there because he also loved His children who are also of the House of Israel there also?Cnt
No, the garbage is Mormonism's teaching that God is an exalted man and Jesus was the product of a physical relationship between God and Mary. Those are just for starters.....
@Jack44M No, the garbage is Mormonism's teaching that God is an exalted man
Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen His Father.
Said He does Only what He has seen the Father do.
He was resurrected.Still has that same resurrected body today that the ancient apostles and saints walked and talked with for 40 days after His resurrection.Will return with that very same body at His 2nd Coming.Thats what the Bible tells me.
@Jack44M Jesus was the product of a physical relationship between God and Mary.
What is the most serious sin in the eyes of god next to murder Jack?Why is it so serious to break that law?It is a divine gift.Procreation.One of Gods first commands to Adam and Eve was to ...Multiply and replenish the earth. That same command is for us today. The union between man and women to procreate within marriage Is a sacred Gift from God.The abuse of such brings serious consequences...cont
So if it is a gift from God and it IS a sacred gift from Him why is it so Inconceivable that God the Father does Not have that same Gift/Ability. Perhaps He does Not have that power?Therefor is Not Really the supreme creator we claim?Scripture says Christ is the "Only Begotten" of the Father.We know what the bible means when it uses that term.
So I dont see how our teachings are garbage when they are clearly biblical.
....you don't read very well. lol The bible CLEARLY states, by Jesus' own words, that God is a spirit and that a spirit does not have flesh and bones. In fact, even the BofM states God is a spirit. The bible also states, CLEARLY, that Jesus was begotten by the power of the Holy Spirit....not by sex between God and Mary.
@Jack44M Jesus was begotten by the power of the Holy Spirit....not by sex between God and Mary.
No Jesus did not say God is spirit.John did.Get it right Jack.
The word "begotten" has only one meaning in the Bible. Jesus had a physical body just like the rest of us.He is in the express image of the father.If you have seen Jesus you have seen the father.Scripture says so.Theres only one way he got a body like the rest of us and Ill stick to that knowledge.Believe what you may.
@jferristube - "No Jesus did not say God is spirit.John did.Get it right Jack"
Hey look at that. You got one right. Call the paper.
Then.....look at that....you get one TOTALLY wrong.
Jesus was begotten which means "single of it's kind, only". Then He became flesh, like us. Then He died and was resurrected, by His own power, and He received His incorruptible body, which, OF COURSE, is NOT like ours. FIRST He was spirit, then He was flesh, and now....
@jferristube - ...He has an incorruptible body of which we cannot understand. So which so-called image would you or the LDSO be referring to when the 'image of the Father' is discussed.
Well, that would be the first one......spirit. Image means 'likeness, of resemblance'. Coincidentally, the Father is also spirit. Pretty simple, even for a third grader.
Just like the catholics, the lds are always twisting scripture to fit their doctrines and aren't interested in definitions...
@cr500blur Just like the catholics, the lds are always twisting scripture to fit their doctrines and aren't interested in definitions.
At least we know what we believe.
You do not seem to be sure of what you believe. One minute theres No Need for prophets.The next your telling me Christ would send prophets. Just not in the future.You contradict yourself cr
And youre right.We're Not interested in definitions.Especially Not yours.Just plain Gospel truth. Cool?
....Mormons are famous for taking scripture out of context and changing definitions to suit their purpose. Mormonism is Twistianity; not Christianity. lol
@Jack44M - Yep, no matter WHAT you put in front of them, they never get it, because they are soooooooooooooo indoctrinated. You have to be pretty dumb or arrogant to swallow all that kool-aid in the face of ALL that misinformation and it's history.
Straight is the gate and WIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDE is the way that leads to destruction and many there be that find it...
@jferristube - Ok let's do a test. Try walking through a wall and tell me how far you get.
Then read the Bible and find where Christ appeared in a locked room. Now, do you know how He did it. I say.....................NOPE. You do not have the ability to think outside the box. Lovely effort though, but typical talking point from the LDSO...
The lost soul I mentioned in my previous comment was the author of this ignorant video
lds dot org for the REAL truth about, not the mormon church, but "The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-Day Saints "
TrickTrolan 1 week ago
Another lost soul who misinterprets and has zero understanding of the scriptures. Also NOTHING Sister Daulton said was wrong in the least bit...just another stupid anti mormon video with no originality and once again, regurgitated slander
TrickTrolan 1 week ago
This chick is so typical of the deceived Mormonite. You pour your life out in tithes and then when the cult gives back to you 10% of the 100% of what you gave them, you call this a great kindness. But then we the people pour out our lives in social security taxes (20%) and a host of other taxes and never give it a moments thought. But my SS tax isn't done in the name of a polygamous polytheistic god.
IExposeMormonism 1 week ago
Hopefully, the Mormons will open their eyes to the truth...I mean, you gotta be pretty dumb to believe in Mormonism.
GrandmotherAbuser 2 weeks ago
Now that I've listened to this, I surely can never be a mormon.
jlc19702 2 weeks ago
why don't you leave other belive what they want and you belive what you want every one as his own understanding of the bible and of things that are spiritual this women is just giving her expirnce to people who are liked minded and you should’t comment and judge on others teachings(spirtual) just try to judge your teaching for now take my word .(I am not a Mormon )
AaronScifo2 2 weeks ago
@AaronScifo2 Why you ask? Because scriptual tells us to "contend earnestly for the faith", that's why. Mormons say they are Christians but like this video points out, mormonism is the opposite of Christianity in so many ways. You say "you shouldn't comment or judge" but as long they say they are Christians I will fight them to the end of time.
Jhughes105 1 week ago
@Jhughes105 Let god judge not you and who are you to say what Christianity is can't you see how many different types of understating of the bible their is what makes yours so good then the others that's what so disgusting about Christians they cant even read a book all of them want to change others to their belief and then they start a another branch of Christianity. leave them in pace
AaronScifo2 1 week ago
Mormonism is a lie out of hell filled with disception from it's origin. Googel Sandra Tanner, great,great grandaughter of the infamous Brigham Young and review documented criticism from her on the wicked lies of this demonic religion.
kjv1611nkjv 2 weeks ago
You are distorting what she said. We receive blessings both from the simple mercy of the Lord. He may choose to give us a blessing or to withhold it, expecially from those who do not live His commandments. Pres. Hinckley counseled her to live so that they are worthy to receive that blessing, because the Lord is not bound to bless those who violate the commandments of God.
cdowis 2 weeks ago
@cdowis Being an ex-Mormon of 20 yrs and after watching this I don't see that her words are being distorted. The Lord blesses many who aren't deemed worthy according to the laws and obedience of the LDS church. Rely solely on the Lord Jesus Christ and follow him only, not a prophet, and you will be eternally blessed. May God bless you.
hanesdm 2 weeks ago
no one gets into heaven (or blessings from God) on their own merit. Christianity 101 - if a gift is earned then it is not a gift. if a person could get to heaven or be blessed aside from the atonement of Jesus on the cross, then Jesus died in vain. the Mormon Religion offers a counterfeit salvation...
WordMinistry 3 weeks ago
Everything she said makes sense. I don't know why people are complaining. It seams a happy way to live.
cas1921 3 weeks ago
omg i feel sorry 4this lady
7wiiskate 4 weeks ago
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blackmamba54321 4 weeks ago
Men of God dont waste their days trying to disprove other religions. If you dont beleive it, simply dont practice it and leave others to follow their beliefs.
wyanceyful 1 month ago 2
@wyanceyful..Scripture commands of Christ's followers to go forth and preach the Gospel and says that we are to Correct and rebuke Religions such as Mormonism. LEts read James 5:20 - "Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins" it is out of love that Christians are to guide souls out of Religion and into Redemption. Christianity made into religion is not Christian! Come theres still time
DukeofApol 4 weeks ago
your an idiot i am a Mormon and i support and believe in my religion so don't post videos if your just going to be a jerk
opticsniperguy23 1 month ago
""God is an exalted man, Jesus is a created being (sex between God and Mary) and the spirit brother of Satan"
I see antimormons bring round and round those same declarations. But it is very curious that they don´t provide the evidence that If those declarations have passed the process required to be considered as official doctrine.
The omission alone shows their dishonesty.
Antimormons are dishonest.
And the more they spend attacking another faith, the more they look ridiculous.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@dorisfenella
Hiding behind the "official doctrine" ploy is an old Mormon trick. I notice you don't deny it being taught. rofl
"It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know...that he was once a man like us."
Was Smith lying when he said that?
Jack44M 1 month ago
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@Jack44M What ploy? If you feel alluded yourself are revealing it.
And why do I have to answer you now when you didn´t answer my previous posts? I don´t share your ludic style.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@Jack44-Anti's don't get to decide what is doctrine and what is not. Many Prophets have taught that our doctrine is our cannonized scripture, similar to you bible thumper. Course your Bible has created thousands of churches all from the same "perfect" book. smirk.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@Jack44M Why do I have to answer you when you still haven´t answered my previous posts, even what you asked me to list?
Ploy? Is that what you do or are you going to deny that you bring round and round the same alleged official declarations. If you feel alluded you revealed yourself alone. LOL
I don´t share either your ludic style nor I am not asking more than what I am answering.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@dorisfenella I love how he hasn't replied yet...XD
blackmamba54321 4 weeks ago
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Matt 5
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
SBGTF - salvation by grace thru faith, not of one's work that he can boast about. Funny that LDS knows about the death atonement of Jesus but they don't understand it's application. It still boils down to 'salvation by good works'. But what is their salvation? Do they believe in the same heaven and kingdom that Jesus taught? Do they believe in the same hell? I truly feel sorry for them. The knowledge of the truth is in their midst but they listen to the words of a man than to the Bible itself.
tuberobotto 1 month ago
@tuberobotto "The knowledge of the truth is in their midst but they listen to the words of a man than to the Bible itself."
Oh please, 'the bible' itself isn't even real. There are a dozen different bibles with different cannons, all chosen for different reasons. You're basically a 'my version of god is more real than your version of god' person.
humanistheart 1 month ago
@tuberobotto - Whether one believes in salvation by grace only or that works also play a part is really not what Gods going to care about. roll eyes. I've heard bible thumpers like yourself tell me that Gods going to throw people in hell if they believe in works as a measure of our salvation. roll eyes. So Gods going to care what I believe beyond that Christ is my savior? I do good works and believe that's important and he's going to throw me in hell?
Worry about things that matter.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@tuberobotto- No, we do not believe in the same hell as you all do, as the God you teach is going to throw most of the inhabintants of the earth in torture of fire and brimstone for the most ridiculous things, We believe God is not as hateful and monsterious as you all teach him to be. I could never believe in the Bible thumper way of teaching, it teaches a hateful God.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
Since they don't believe in the same gospel as born-again christians, what god are they praying to? Which lord? They are not regenerated and therefore don't have a relationship with Jesus. That means they are still living in the state of sin.
Isaiah 59:1-2 Behold, the LORD's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
tuberobotto 1 month ago
Mormons claim the Apostle John did not die and he will "tarry until Jesus' 2nd coming". But, they also say he is a "resurrected being". How can he be resurrected if he hasn't died?
Jack44M 1 month ago
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dorisfenella 1 month ago
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@Jack44M "It's sad you are so stupid"
Are you describing yourself.? For what is it called to whom is not congruent with her/his own words?
or I guess you like to waste your time? Uh?
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@Jack44M Hienas must be happy when the lion were blocked to defend his territory.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@Jack44M
You have GIVEN ME NO scriptures to support what you say, except the weak ones. I have Given you several and you have not even took a shot at understanding them. You are a very ignorant dude. I feel bad for ya, You got a big mouth but with nothing but your opinion to support your devilish concept.
jaromsmiss 1 month ago
@jaromsmiss
...except the "weak" ones? lol
Maybe you know: Does the Prophet keep the Parchment of John in his vault for safekeeping?
Jack44M 1 month ago
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jaromsmiss 1 month ago
@Jack44M
uummmmmm why dodge my questions? how do you feel that there are scriptures in the bible that go completely against your concept? you just keep going in circles brother lol
I gave you my scriptures, asked you questions, you said nothing about them.
I rest my case
jaromsmiss 1 month ago
@jaromsmiss
Typical cult response.....your isogesis interpretation is a joke; like your cult.
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M
you completely throw out any thing that doesnt align with your devilish concept.
TYPICAL of a person who is led astray.
this really hasnt been any kind of conversation, just me giving you scriputures and you DUCKIN lol
jaromsmiss 1 month ago
@Jack44M "this really hasnt been any kind of conversation, just me giving you scriputures and you DUCKIN "
Yes you are a troll because most of your comments are calling names, and a coward because you avoid questions and topics you asked previously and run away without face them.
Everyone has cults. Guess your cult is bashing the lds faith.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@dorisfenella Yep, he does a lot of that.
humanistheart 1 month ago
@Jack44M- Wow, I see your obsession with the LDS faith is growing. LOL Sad really, get a life anti's, you and your buddies are sick in the head, need OCD medications. The church is true, it is you all that have the false doctrine.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@wellsjdan
Your church is a cult that teaches God is an exalted man, Jesus is a created being (sex between God and Mary) and the spirit brother of Satan. That pretty much sums it up. Nobody cares about you or what you say.....lol
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M - Does your preacher teach that running around calling other religions a cult is going to bring them to Christ? Is that the Love that you bring to the world? roll eyes.
Your as far from a Christian as it gets.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@wellsjdan
I notice you don't dispute what your cult teaches....just whine about being criticized. lol
That is especially funny since it is your cult's scripture that calls all other churches the "church of the devil".
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44= Just pointing your churches teachings, I can't help if they teach of a hateful and monsterous God,
But keep it up guys, I would never convert to your faith, but we just baptized a Baptist friend of mine, who saw truth when he heard it, guys like you are why mainstream Christianity is a dieing faith...
Google it and see, they aren't buying the hateful God you all teach anymore.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@wellsjdan
Uh huh....riiiight. lol
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44- You can't google "Christians leaving faith"??? And verify people are not buying your teachings about God, and how he is going to throw most of the people who have ever lived on earth, over 70% of them, in torture for eternity, for what? Something as silly as they thought works were important, or didn't believe the trinity doctrine. LOL Really? That's all it takes to go to hell? roll eyes.
What a hateful God you preach.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@wellsjdan
I've been busy laughing at the fake membership claims the LDS church makes. It's clear they claim people who don't claim them back. lol
Have you seen the ARIS Survey results? Here's a couple of telling bits of info:
Chile....the LDS Church reported 509,592 members at year-end 2000 but only 103,735 Chileans in 2002 self-identified as Mormons
Brazil....In its 2000 Census, 199,645 residents identified themselves as LDS, while the church listed 743,182."
Very telling
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M - Yea, we've already seen the anti claims that are not substantiated, they will make up anything to make the church look bad.
Now, back to the point, the bible thumper church is losing membership in droves, nobody is buying that God is going to throw most of his children in hell for eternity for something as small as they didn't believe the impossible to understand trinity. roll eyes.
God is not as hateful as you make him out to be.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@wellsjdan
Keep denying the facts....fool. lol The source for quite of bit of data is cumorah(dot)com. One of your fellow cult members called it an antimormon nut site. That's the usual excuse, but if you check the "about us", you'll see the contributors are LDS.
Read it and weep. lol
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44- Talk about denying facts, you can't admit that your faith has people leaving. roll eyes.
reminds me of the idiot eag11e who keeps saying the BofM has 4000 errors, when the bible has over 100K errrors, LOL
You all need to learn how to make a logical arguement, instead of the circular ones bible thumpers are known for. LOL
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@Jack44M -Typical circular logic for a Bible thumper (BT) goes like this, how is one saved? BT says.. You have to believe in Christ, ok, so what happens to those who fall away, or continue to sin, BT says, oh they were never really saved. LOL roll eyes.
So if you sin, you aren't really saved? BT- Yes. So your expected to be perfect? BT- No, not perfect, But you just said those who continue to sin are not really saved?
roll eyes. And so goes their round and round idiociocy.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@wellsjdan
Are you on drugs? Seriously, that's your dumbest post yet.
You believe in a book, brought forward by a convicted con man who translated it by sticking his magic rock in a hat.
....a magic rock in a hat. Think about it. rofl
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M - We've already looked/discussed at the "convicted" part and he was never convicted of anything, as far as the ways he translated the Book Of Mormon, he did it three ways, he used the Urim and Thummin, (OT Biblical) he used a seer stone, (in the hat) and near the end he just translated from the pages themselves, So what? Whats the point? Does that he used a Hat make him a con man? LOL
You don't understand scriptures and what's in scriptures is hte problem. roll eyes.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@wellsjdan
What makes him a fraud and a con man is his Oct 1837 conviction....at trial.
Once again, you lie. You say "near the end he just translated from the pages themselves". According to the witnesses, the plates weren't even present. You also use a false assertion about the U&T as a biblical reference. They were NEVER used to translate anything.
The point is you have to lie and make false assertions to prop up your cult.
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M What does conviction have to do with anything anyways? The apostles of Christ and Christ Himself was convicted also. You argument is childish and baseless.
blackmamba54321 1 month ago
@blackmamba54321
I wasn't aware Jesus and his Apostles opened an illegal bank and were convicted of fraud. Do you have a scripture reference for that? lol
Jack44M 1 month ago
@blackmamba- True, what the Bible thumpers don't get is many Prophets in the Bible did some pretty horrible things, did that make them not Prophets? No, it did not.
Jonah ran from God, hid, did not want to go preach in Ninevah, he was afraid, God had to humble him, then he complied to Gods will.
Their point is moot.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@wellsjdan
How many of those bible prophets were unrepentant sexual predators like Smith?
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44- We've already discussed the 1837 "conviction" the evidence was stolen by a Reverend, who doctored it, then had to be threatened with legal action if he didn't return it. What the idiot didn't realize is their was no trial in the case, which there would have had to have been in those days which signatures of jurors, the document didn't have any of this, proving a fraud.
The dishonest reverand was too dumb to know this. LOL
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@wellsjdan
Fool.....Rev. Walters investigated the 1826 Glass Looker "Trial. You can't even keep your accusations straight....BWAHAHAHA
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44- All the "reverends" are crooks, but you nuts believe every word they say. LOL
Suckers.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
@Jack44M "you will run and hide like all the other Mormons who can't back up their mouth"
I can´t believe you were saying this. Do you suffer from amnesia? Here we could count how many times you did so.
dorisfenella 4 weeks ago
@dorisfenella
Stop streetwalking and study more....your ignorance is laughable. lol
Jack44M 3 weeks ago
@Jack44M Excuses of a coward.
dorisfenella 3 weeks ago
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@Jack44M "you will run and hide like all the other Mormons who can't back up their mouth"
I can´t believe you were saying this. Do you suffer from amnesia? Here we could count how many times you did so.
dorisfenella 4 weeks ago
@Jack44M "you will run and hide like all the other Mormons who can't back up their mouth"
I can´t believe you were saying this. Do you suffer from amnesia? Here we could count how many times you did so. You ask , then don´t answer. worst even.
dorisfenella 4 weeks ago
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@Jack44M
"you will run and hide like all the other Mormons who can't back up their mouth"
I can´t believe you were saying this. Do you suffer from amnesia? Here we could count how many times you did so. You ask , then don´t answer. worst even.
dorisfenella 4 weeks ago
@Jack44- The plates weren't even present? roll eyes. More anti Nonsense.
Emma wrote after serving as scribe... "After meals, or after interruptions, [Joseph] would at once begin where he had left off from the plates, ("Last Testimony of Sister Emma," Saints' Herald, Oct 1, 1879, p 290
All the scribes said he had he plates he read from. roll eyes.
That's the poorest anti nonsense, your getting weaker with your anti nonsense.
wellsjdan 1 month ago
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@wellsjdan
.....really, they said that? How about some quotes where he had the plates before him while he translated. That would mean they saw the plates with their natural eyes....would love to see that quote. His FIL, via Emma, said they were hidden in the woods during translation.
"he had he plates he read from.." How is he reading from them when his face is stuck in his hat. You know, the one with the magic rock. rofl
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44-The sad part is you are becoming like eag11e, he's been here almost 2 years, day after day, posting the same thing over and over. Talk about no life, you two are becoming twins!!! Your both sick in the head, obsessed with somthing you don't believe in. I mean seriously, If I didn't believe in Catholicism or Buddism, I wouldn't spend my life posting about it.
What losers you both are, your poor families, your head is stuck in a computer all day, get a LIFE!!!
wellsjdan 1 month ago
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dorisfenella 1 month ago
These clowns we call Mormon defend a religion founded by a convicted con man who wrote a joke of a book; translating it by sticking a magic rock in a hat.
...a magic rock in a hat....think about it. rofl
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M It's true that's absolutely absurd, but you must admit that it's no worse than most religions.
humanistheart 1 month ago
Previous Mormon Prophets and Apostles proclaimed Adam was God, Polygamy was essential for salvation (exaltation), Blood Oaths, Blacks could not hold the priesthood until Jesus' 2nd coming...etc.
Yesterday's Truth = Today's Heresy
What heresies are being proclaimed as truth today by the current crop? Think about it before you join this cult......
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M Previously the catholic church held that the pope was infalable, that the earth was flat, and that bathing was bad for you.
Protestants held that women should not lead a church.
Mormonism is no different from other christian denominations, it changes with the times.
humanistheart 1 month ago
@humanistheart
Are you saying you renounce your scripture?
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M What the hell are you talking about?
humanistheart 1 month ago
@humanistheart
Your scripture condemns all other churches and you say the Mormon Church changes with the times. So, the question is are you renouncing your bigoted scripture in 1Nephi 14:10?
Can't make it any clearer than that.....
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M I'm an atheist, we don't have 'scripture'. Please alleviate your ignorance with some education. And by education, I mean a real college, not some stupid christian book or college. I can't make it any clearer than that.
humanistheart 1 month ago
@humanistheart
My bad....had you confused with a Mormon. Sorry for my confusion
Jack44M 1 month ago
mao ba
phontomin 1 month ago
say that to your self
phontomin 1 month ago
i think you are the hell because you didnt know wat is the meaning that what she talking about you know it. about
phontomin 1 month ago
Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth -- 1 Nephi 14:10
....Mormon scripture condemns every other church on the planet; and yet they whine about hate speech. lol Not only are they hypocrites, but bigots as well.
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M You don´t push nothing. you ask but avoid questions.
Coward.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@dorisfenella
....that's because I haven't found a Mormon who will answer a simple question:
The BofM states God is a spirit and the D&C states God has a body of flesh and bone. Which is correct?
....pretty simple straight forward question.
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M No no you have to answer my previous questions here because you avoided others from another page.
Stop being dishonest or leave.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@Jack44M BOTH
blackmamba54321 1 month ago
Matthew 25 tells you she is absolutely right.
bomac10000 1 month ago
LDS Profit deceives another minion of Mormonism
IExposeMormonism 1 month ago
@IExposeMormonism If you could spell "prophet" correctly you might be someone to listen to.
bomac10000 1 month ago
@bomac10000 Thanks for walking into an obvious joke
IExposeMormonism 1 month ago
@IExposeMormonism Nothing you have said thus far leads me to believe you possess a sense of humor..
bomac10000 1 month ago
@bomac10000 Well, that's how you walked into that spelling error comment. And for blackmamba, I do expose hate, thus the name!
IExposeMormonism 1 month ago
@IExposeMormonism Yes, your own, of course.
bomac10000 1 month ago
@IExposeMormonism You expose nothing but hate...
blackmamba54321 1 month ago
@blackmamba54321
Typical response from a whining Mormon....run and hide behind the "hate card" when someone criticizes your cult. What makes it especially funny is your scripture condemns ALL other churches and religions. Now, that's hate.....lol
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M In the end we will be judged by what we practiced. We practice the commandments and our articles of faith.
N° 11: "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."
That is not hate. The scripture you quoted was strictly given to Mr. Smith.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@blackmamba54321 Jack44M is a troll he believes what he wants and he is a bigot stucked in a state of hatred with lack of good arguments that is why his insults abound.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@dorisfenella
I pull your leash and you bark.....lol
Jack44M 1 month ago
@dorisfenella Ya I know, he can't think of anything else.
blackmamba54321 1 month ago
@IExposeMormonism
lol....so true. Profit is their Prophet; look no further than the 3 Billion they are dumping into the SLC real estate project. Hinckley announced the projected cost would be less than 1B when they started and the TRUE cost grows faster than B Young's beard. lol
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M Over time, real estate has proven the most reliable investment of all, so if making money with your money is crime, so be it, Since they paid my mortgage for 8 months last year, not to mention countless others, I would say we have little to complain about.
bomac10000 1 month ago
@bomac10000
Who said making money is a crime?
Jack44M 1 month ago
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@Jack44M I am sure I laughed and I laugh much more than all of you together. You look bad when you only use insults to defend your position. Anyway your position is the position of the loosers. Enough said.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
How sad and pitiful that woman is. The depth of the deception is remarkable.
grfield1 1 month ago
@cr500blur Cult: 1.A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
2.A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
You are part of a cult
blackmamba54321 1 month ago
@blackmamba54321 - annnnnnnnnnnnnd #3, as it applies to the lds cult...
a quasi-religious organization using devious psychological techniques to gain and control adherents
Ouch, nail has been hit on head...
cr500blur 1 month ago
@cr500blur LOL You are a piece of work.
blackmamba54321 1 month ago
@blackmamba54321 - what? no more smartass remarks? Come on, that's the best yuh got?
cr500blur 1 month ago
@cr500blur XD oh please, taunting won't do "sport".
blackmamba54321 1 month ago
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Jack44m You still can´t justify the errors in the Bible you asked me to list. Why you ask if you are not going to answer?
"Abomination"Jack44M
You are eager at calling names but not to reply properly with good arguments.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
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dorisfenella 1 month ago
Wonderful advise.
MrMFHORN 1 month ago
Faith without works is death and this doesn´t exclude grace. The Bible teachs that.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
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Jack44M lost his temper easily.He is not in Christ. He is eager at calling names. You can believe me or not. Just take a little time to see his claims to notice he is obsessed with lds doctrine.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
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dorisfenella 1 month ago
2:02 WTH?! That's screwed up!
LilyNThorns 1 month ago
The BofM states God is a spirit.....the D&C states God has a body of flesh and bone. Which one is correct?
Jack44M 1 month ago
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@Jack44M The BofM states God is a spirit.....the D&C states God has a body of flesh and bone. Which one is correct?
The Bibles also states He is a consuming fire...which is it?
jferristube 1 month ago
For some reason Mormons won't answer really simple questions about their church's publications.
I've asked the question: Is the Book of Commandments faithful and true as stated in 1:7?
....are they afraid to answer it?
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M for some reason anti-mormons come up with the same lies and rumors.nope not afraid to answer i have answered you dont like the answer to fit you pre-concieved notions,but keep up the poor work keep on misleading and misrepresenting the mormon faith you low-life scumbag
getdownto311 1 month ago
@getdownto311
BWAHAHAHA.....
I quote your so called apostles AND cite the source; but I can understand why you get upset. You don't want folks to learn the truth about your cult. If that offends you....tough.
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M you havnt presented me any truth just more of the same old bullshit your anti-mormon cronies are feeding,yeah laugh it if it makes you feel tough and secure under the keyboard,so 9what "truth" do you have of course we want people to know the truth,your so ignorant of what we believe,your an idiot!
getdownto311 1 month ago
@getdownto311
",your an idiot!"
Sonny boy...before calling someone an idiot, you might want to learn grammar. rofl
The facts remain....those are the exact words of your cult's leaders.
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M you are so off based about the mormons beliefs,cult if it makes you feel big and tuff by calling us a cult go right ahead,yeah you dont have the full context of it do you? i didnt think so either i could careless about grammar its not like i am taking some freaking exam you jackass!
getdownto311 1 month ago
@getdownto311 JackM4 is a troll I analized him. He doesn´t even live the Bible which defend blindly to the point to deny its errors despite of experts conclusions.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@dorisfenella
List the bible's errors....we always enjoy laughing at you.
lol
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M Hey you can´t debate without offending people that only show your insecurity and dishonesty.
Well explain how this next can be justified.
................
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@dorisfenella
"Debate"? that's a joke. lol Mormons are merely looking to vomit their cult's garbage. If they were sincere about debating they would subscribe to general and accepted practices such as exegesis, sola scriptura, and hermeneutics to substantiate their position.
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M I sent you some errors of the Bible. I should said "discuss". What are you talking about now? Is that your way to avoid facing the errors of the Bible?
dorisfenella 1 month ago
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@dorisfenella
You've got 2 problems. First, I don't subscribe to Verbal Plenary Inspiration so you'll need to find someone who does and address your concerns with them. Secondly, "debate" or "discuss"....as long as you don't subscribe to general and accepted practices such as exegesis, sola scriptura, and hermeneutics; I'm not wasting my time. You really aren't very bright; while you won't admit it, you know that you aren't.
Jack44M 1 month ago
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@Jack44M Mormons are merely looking to vomit their cult's garbage
You mean garbage like...
Christ is our Saviour. He atoned for our sins.Was crucified and on the 3rd day was resurrected.That He created all things that are in Heaven and earth.That we can by Obedience to Him become heirs with Him to All that the father has. That He Lives today with the very same resurrected glorified perfected immortal body that the ancient apostles and saints walked and talked with for 40 days ...cont.
jferristube 1 month ago
@Jack44M Cont
40 days aftr His resurrection.That garbage?That we believe we Must obey His commandments in order to receive His blessings in our lives.That he is Not at our beck and call to give us whatever we Want Just for the asking? How is that gonna develope ones Faith and trust in Him.
Perhaps that He indeed appeared to the ancient inhabitants of the Americas?Had prophets among His children there because he also loved His children who are also of the House of Israel there also?Cnt
jferristube 1 month ago
@jferristube
No, the garbage is Mormonism's teaching that God is an exalted man and Jesus was the product of a physical relationship between God and Mary. Those are just for starters.....
Jack44M 1 month ago
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jferristube 1 month ago
@Jack44M No, the garbage is Mormonism's teaching that God is an exalted man
Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen His Father.
Said He does Only what He has seen the Father do.
He was resurrected.Still has that same resurrected body today that the ancient apostles and saints walked and talked with for 40 days after His resurrection.Will return with that very same body at His 2nd Coming.Thats what the Bible tells me.
jferristube 1 month ago
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@Jack44M Jesus was the product of a physical relationship between God and Mary.
What is the most serious sin in the eyes of god next to murder Jack?Why is it so serious to break that law?It is a divine gift.Procreation.One of Gods first commands to Adam and Eve was to ...Multiply and replenish the earth. That same command is for us today. The union between man and women to procreate within marriage Is a sacred Gift from God.The abuse of such brings serious consequences...cont
jferristube 1 month ago
@Jack44M Cont
So if it is a gift from God and it IS a sacred gift from Him why is it so Inconceivable that God the Father does Not have that same Gift/Ability. Perhaps He does Not have that power?Therefor is Not Really the supreme creator we claim?Scripture says Christ is the "Only Begotten" of the Father.We know what the bible means when it uses that term.
So I dont see how our teachings are garbage when they are clearly biblical.
jferristube 1 month ago
@jferristube
....you don't read very well. lol The bible CLEARLY states, by Jesus' own words, that God is a spirit and that a spirit does not have flesh and bones. In fact, even the BofM states God is a spirit. The bible also states, CLEARLY, that Jesus was begotten by the power of the Holy Spirit....not by sex between God and Mary.
Mormonism is heresy....fact.
Jack44M 1 month ago
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@Jack44M Stop believing blindly on Tanner. She misundestood the doctrine.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@Jack44M Jesus was begotten by the power of the Holy Spirit....not by sex between God and Mary.
No Jesus did not say God is spirit.John did.Get it right Jack.
The word "begotten" has only one meaning in the Bible. Jesus had a physical body just like the rest of us.He is in the express image of the father.If you have seen Jesus you have seen the father.Scripture says so.Theres only one way he got a body like the rest of us and Ill stick to that knowledge.Believe what you may.
jferristube 1 month ago
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@jferristube - "No Jesus did not say God is spirit.John did.Get it right Jack"
Hey look at that. You got one right. Call the paper.
Then.....look at that....you get one TOTALLY wrong.
Jesus was begotten which means "single of it's kind, only". Then He became flesh, like us. Then He died and was resurrected, by His own power, and He received His incorruptible body, which, OF COURSE, is NOT like ours. FIRST He was spirit, then He was flesh, and now....
cr500blur 1 month ago
@jferristube - ...He has an incorruptible body of which we cannot understand. So which so-called image would you or the LDSO be referring to when the 'image of the Father' is discussed.
Well, that would be the first one......spirit. Image means 'likeness, of resemblance'. Coincidentally, the Father is also spirit. Pretty simple, even for a third grader.
Just like the catholics, the lds are always twisting scripture to fit their doctrines and aren't interested in definitions...
cr500blur 1 month ago
@cr500blur So which so-called image would you or the LDSO be referring to when the 'image of the Father' is discussed.
The image Christ spoke of.Simple
He has an incorruptible body of which we cannot understand.
Nope I do understand His body as I do Understand the Bible :0))
For as Christ said.This is life eternal that ye may know the Father and Jesus Christ whom He has sent.Simple
jferristube 1 month ago
@jferristube - "The image Christ spoke of.". Name the scripture.
Noooooooo, you do NOT understand His body. It is beyond what you can come up with, unless, of course, you have been with Him. Nice try bro.
cr500blur 1 month ago
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@cr500blur Just like the catholics, the lds are always twisting scripture to fit their doctrines and aren't interested in definitions.
At least we know what we believe.
You do not seem to be sure of what you believe. One minute theres No Need for prophets.The next your telling me Christ would send prophets. Just not in the future.You contradict yourself cr
And youre right.We're Not interested in definitions.Especially Not yours.Just plain Gospel truth. Cool?
All good :0))
jferristube 1 month ago
@cr500blur
....Mormons are famous for taking scripture out of context and changing definitions to suit their purpose. Mormonism is Twistianity; not Christianity. lol
Jack44M 1 month ago
@Jack44M - Yep, no matter WHAT you put in front of them, they never get it, because they are soooooooooooooo indoctrinated. You have to be pretty dumb or arrogant to swallow all that kool-aid in the face of ALL that misinformation and it's history.
Straight is the gate and WIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDE is the way that leads to destruction and many there be that find it...
Sad....very sad....
cr500blur 1 month ago
@cr500blur .He has an incorruptible body of which we cannot understand.
I know the resurrected Christ said to His Apostles...
Touch me and See.For a spirit hath not a body of Flesh and Bone as ye see me have.Pretty plain and simple cr.
A perfected immortal glorified BODY of Flesh AND Bone as He emphatically stated. To say anything else is another Gospel
jferristube 1 month ago
@jferristube - Ok let's do a test. Try walking through a wall and tell me how far you get.
Then read the Bible and find where Christ appeared in a locked room. Now, do you know how He did it. I say.....................NOPE. You do not have the ability to think outside the box. Lovely effort though, but typical talking point from the LDSO...
THAT would be another gospel...
cr500blur 1 month ago
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jferristube 1 month ago
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@cr500blur Now, do you know how He did it. I say...NOPE.
Didnt say I did Know
I said i understood what corruptable means LOL
jferristube 1 month ago
@cr500blur THAT would be another gospel...
What would be ? LOL
jferristube 1 month ago
@jferristube - Most of your beliefs. Where have you been? Pick one...
LOL really hard...
cr500blur 1 month ago
@cr500blur Coincidentally, the Father is also spirit.
Easy for a 3rd grader?Then youll be able to answer this question.
In what form is Gods spirit?What shape or form is the spirit of god?What "Image"?
jferristube 1 month ago
@jferristube - Yep, pretty simple. Whatever HE wants it to be. For that matter, who cares. He could present Himself ANY WAY HE WANTS.
All I know is you have no idea what He is capable of.
cr500blur 1 month ago
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@cr500blur All I know is you have no idea what He is capable of.
Didnt say I did know what Hes capable of BUT I do Know He would wanna be anything OTHER than what He is.
jferristube 1 month ago
@cr500blur For that matter, who cares. He could present Himself ANY WAY HE WANTS.
I care bcos Christ said that to Know Him is to have Eternal Life.
You cannot have faith in something or someone when ya dont understand or know Him.Simple
jferristube 1 month ago
@jferristube - "You cannot have faith in something or someone when ya dont understand or know Him."
Why? Christians do it all the time. I guess that says something about you or the lds. Bummer.
Go to ldsvideo dot org for some handy info on the cult you belong to...
cr500blur 1 month ago