WOW, what a bunch of interesting opinions here, so sad, we are not slaves anymore, we are not forced to eat, speak, or live here or there, so, if we don't like speaking spanish, let's pick a language from our ancesters and learn it ands speak that, are we still complaining and moaning about being brought to the americas? well, let's go back to Africa, we don't like being christians? how about we start practicing the reigions and believes of our ancesters? stop playing the victim game, be free
@TheCapirena LOL. these people are NOT African. They are Afro Colonial Hispanic Panamanians and SPANISH is THEIR language. In fact they speak bozal like Spanish or semi creoloid Spanish. And these people practice a culture that is very AFRICAN influenced but also has the influences of the Spaniards(Europeans), and Amerindians so they are keeping up the traditions and beliefs of their ancestors. Even their religion which is similar to SANTERIA(African syncretic mixed religion) is Africanized.
@chsn09 Yes, we are descendants of black Africans, are African Colonial but on the coast of Panama Colón nobody practices Santeria and assures you. Greetings
@TheCapirena The language of true black exclavisadoswas lost, the Spanish were careful not to put in place to blacks who speak the same dialect to avoid leakage and prevent sabotage, that is why today the black African colonial speaks Castilian.
This video is quite interesting. These black Panamanians in the video are descendants of the Cimarrones, black African slaves who ran away from their white Spanish slave masters during the colonial period of Panama and after. Other blacks were and remained enslaved, or were eventually freed.
I dont know brother hispanic and latin bottm line refers to the european ancestry and origins nothing to do with African at all! this is Africaness..this is not spains culture not LATIN so the true culture does not get recongnized. will they promote this during hispanic heritage month? hell know! will so called latinos in the U.S. have a special during hispanic heritage month promoting this? I DONT THINK SO but they will promote the day of the dead running of the bulls and the Flamanco dance
Yah, i am not saying that we should use Hispanic and Latino as terms referring to race ! i definitely think that is totally inaccurate ! It is stupid ! But Latino in Spanish means "LATIN" ! And the original Latin was a Roman person ! And so being that , Latin became a language ! And Latin is any language that derived from French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian, and Portuguese ! So Haiti is apart of Latin America ! But we should say Latin American instead ! But Hispanic can be used as well !
Good question ! The Hispanic part is more confusing ! But yes, I feel that Hispanic is okay to use only when referring to someones culture just like how you referr to someone as being West Indian. It is just like how you might call someone or a group of people Arab referring to the Arab nations. When you say Hispanic, you are saying of Spanish derived culture ! So that is accurate as these people come from Hispanic America. They are Hispanic by culture religion language ! BUT NOT RACE!
The people in this video are Just as much Hispanic as they are black !
These are Afro Colonial Panamanians ! They are SPanish speaking black Panamanians and are Roman Catholic and are different from the West Indian descent minority in Panama !
I hear you but what similarities do they share with chicanos aztecs mayans the italians in argentina the mestizos in el salvador?? what is the hispanic link besides spain kicking ass and taking names?
It is the same thing with the West Indians and Caribbean !
The Spanish speaking Latin American natiions share a bond with each other because of their tied histories with Spain and being all under spanish control.
The West Indies have a connection because of their cultures and histories despite different languages, Like Guyana is in South America and Belize in Central America yet they are considered West Indies as well !
true! but spanish speakers are the only ones using their colonizers title LATIN west indian even though its a lie as far as the indian part is concerned it just a false name for a location not the actual people LAtin american us a inposed lable for the land and the people they are not all Latin..
yeah and those blacks have a cultural and racial link to Africa they may have a linguistic connection to spain but that was forced and that is it just the language. what kind of practices do you see with the blacks in all the countries you mentioned and the practices in spain today?? what do they have in common? food NO dance NO oral tradition NO and the religion is a weak example because many afro descendants infuse african religions in everyday life. so can you answer any?
So I think if we are referring to people in the U.S. who are immigrants or come from a distinct culture we should use these terms ! Like for example, if we just say "Oh my West Indian friend is coming over " That term does not signal race, although it is implied that that person would be black ignorantly or presumably! If i say "Oh one of my Hispanic or Latino class mates or friends" that does not signal race either, however, U.S. society has given that a racial value !
The whole point of the term Hispanic/Latino comes from the fact that throughout global history and colonization of the New World, and wherever, The English were always jealous of the Spaniards for their success and wealth ! And because of that, English resorted to violence and attacks on Spanish and the Spanish colonies.
And because the English always had a rivalry with the Spaniards and wanted what they thought was their right and for their benefit turned into animosity !
And so since the U.S. is an Anglo country as the U.S. was a British colony, much of the root of colonial British culture in the U.S. was retained and remained to form the essential roots of U.S. history/culture/society !
And so from that the people of the U.S. considered themselves natives of the land and just considered themselves to be Americans and just wat truly was and the status quo !
So since White Anglo Saxons Protestants (WASPS) formed the crux and power of American society and that was the status quo, they held up the history of the British colonizers.
The Spanish were white also but they were Roman Catholic and spoke spanish and had spanish names of course lol !
And so around the time that the U.S. is a nation and the U.S. intervenes in Latin America and through dealings with Spanish American powers, they develop these ideas of differences
So, people who have a solid Latin American identity come here, and the U.S. begins to see this as a threat to traditional American culture, and they look at Spanish speakers as outsiders because they speak Spanish and are Roman Catholic, and also many of these people want to be white but are culturally and linguisitically marked and distinguished !
And through the U.S. dealings and intervention and power they recieved while through relations with Latin America, the U.S. looked at Latin Americans as being unrefined and Hispanic and thinking of them as lower than.
Also because of the high rate of mixing that took places, it was hard to tell what race many were.
Many Latin Americans had some black in them. Many were mixed up and had dark skinned !
So U.S. racialization made the Latin Americans to be "mongrels" and like "negroes"
Because of all this, then immigration of Latin Americans with a solid Latin American identity grew !
And So the U.S. feels that Spanish and Hispanics and Latinos are a threat to the U.S. cultural orientation and therefore must distinguish which ones are not "true Americans"
So the terms Hispanic/Latino were first used as a term of solidarity for those people who were immigrants and from what grew as a political struggle. Mexicans were the first and in solidarity with African American strug
And eventually, many people saw that the people of Latin America grew from a political struggle when arriving in the U.S.
And so because English and Spanish are historically continums of a contridictory paradox, their is a big animosity between Anglos and Hispanos
Anglos and Anglo black West Indians had difficulty becoming part of the Latin american countries they traveled too because of language and with Black West inidians because of race but also definitely because of language and religion!
why do we have to use that roman guy identity you becuase we speak his language? why we cant we use the little african girls lable you know the one that was beaten raped called a mono? we are dancing the congo in the video and using african drums let make the U.S. know OUR TRUE ROOTS not what they say we should be because of some rich slave owning roman spainard freanch italian rapist etc. now if these people are your ancestors fine do you but they arent mine im not LATIN or ANGLO
BTW, I am not Latin, and I am not Anglo ! I don't identify as either ! I identify as just Black American and West Indian, however, I could say that I am anglo for the fact that I speak English and have ancstors who were slaves for the English ! Also, when comparing blacks of different cultural regions African Americans of U.S. are referred to as Anglo black !
Tremenda pelea de perros que se forma en 1:50.
lourdesnazareth 2 months ago
el diablo tun tun
rubu81 2 months ago
Donde lo puedo comprar?
wavenrock 7 months ago
Porque no mejor en vez de pensar en descargarlo no compras el CD y apoyas al talento colonense.
tinocastromerquiz 8 months ago
como puedo descargar este tema?
LaBebesota507 8 months ago
WOW, what a bunch of interesting opinions here, so sad, we are not slaves anymore, we are not forced to eat, speak, or live here or there, so, if we don't like speaking spanish, let's pick a language from our ancesters and learn it ands speak that, are we still complaining and moaning about being brought to the americas? well, let's go back to Africa, we don't like being christians? how about we start practicing the reigions and believes of our ancesters? stop playing the victim game, be free
TheCapirena 1 year ago
@TheCapirena LOL. these people are NOT African. They are Afro Colonial Hispanic Panamanians and SPANISH is THEIR language. In fact they speak bozal like Spanish or semi creoloid Spanish. And these people practice a culture that is very AFRICAN influenced but also has the influences of the Spaniards(Europeans), and Amerindians so they are keeping up the traditions and beliefs of their ancestors. Even their religion which is similar to SANTERIA(African syncretic mixed religion) is Africanized.
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09 Yes, we are descendants of black Africans, are African Colonial but on the coast of Panama Colón nobody practices Santeria and assures you. Greetings
tomas7222 11 months ago
@tomas7222 hhahah are u sure?? Im not and by the way dont give Santeria a bad connotation.
dasKomm 7 months ago
@chsn09 Educate!!! Educate!! thanks for that!! ;)
BombaEnTampa 2 months ago
@TheCapirena The language of true black exclavisadoswas lost, the Spanish were careful not to put in place to blacks who speak the same dialect to avoid leakage and prevent sabotage, that is why today the black African colonial speaks Castilian.
tomas7222 11 months ago
q ritmo mas bueno!!!
2817anna 1 year ago
jjajjajaja Buenisimo. Todavia me asustan un poco, aunque se que son personas disfrazadas pero Igual!!
priscillin 1 year ago
@priscillin NO TIENES QUE TENER MIEDO EL DIABLO EN NUESTRA CULTURA REPRESENTA AL ESPAÑOL OPRESOR QUE CON EL LATIGO CASTIGABA AL ESCLAVO.. SALUDOS
tomas7222 1 year ago
@tomas7222 Veredad mi amigo
chsn09 1 year ago
Yo le tenia mucho pero mucho miedo a El Diable Tun Tun.... que chistoso :)
onlinenest 2 years ago
Love this video !
chsn09 2 years ago
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SDamaris507 2 years ago
respect pa los diablos d colon...en bocas tambien saltamos diablos
bountycrew 3 years ago
De Nada, pero es los negros de Darien la igual de los negros afocoloniales en Colon Panama, La Chorrera, Veraguas y mucho mas. Gracias.
chsn09 3 years ago
This video is quite interesting. These black Panamanians in the video are descendants of the Cimarrones, black African slaves who ran away from their white Spanish slave masters during the colonial period of Panama and after. Other blacks were and remained enslaved, or were eventually freed.
chsn09 3 years ago
GRASIAS POR TU COMENTARIO HERMANO.
tomas7222 3 years ago
so with that being said can we kill this hispanic/latin shit created by the U.S. government to lump ALLLLL people who speak spanish together?
touggie2000 2 years ago
@touggie2000
Lol ! I mean, yes we should still use the Hispanic/Latino term in the U.S. but we should not use it as a race or in census forms.
The term Hispanic/Latino should be used in reference to the person's identity through means of ancestral or origin culture !
Just like how we use Arabs, who btw are considered White in the U.S.,
and also WEST INDIAN, which referres to Caribbean people descent !
chsn09 2 years ago
I dont know brother hispanic and latin bottm line refers to the european ancestry and origins nothing to do with African at all! this is Africaness..this is not spains culture not LATIN so the true culture does not get recongnized. will they promote this during hispanic heritage month? hell know! will so called latinos in the U.S. have a special during hispanic heritage month promoting this? I DONT THINK SO but they will promote the day of the dead running of the bulls and the Flamanco dance
touggie2000 2 years ago
@touggie2000
I really think that Latino is accurate term when referring to them as a culture like we do with Arabs and West Indians and Middle Easterners!
chsn09 2 years ago
show me similarities as it refers to latin besides spanish language.
touggie2000 2 years ago
Yah, i am not saying that we should use Hispanic and Latino as terms referring to race ! i definitely think that is totally inaccurate ! It is stupid ! But Latino in Spanish means "LATIN" ! And the original Latin was a Roman person ! And so being that , Latin became a language ! And Latin is any language that derived from French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian, and Portuguese ! So Haiti is apart of Latin America ! But we should say Latin American instead ! But Hispanic can be used as well !
chsn09 2 years ago
and why use hispanic???? i miss that part...
touggie2000 2 years ago
Good question ! The Hispanic part is more confusing ! But yes, I feel that Hispanic is okay to use only when referring to someones culture just like how you referr to someone as being West Indian. It is just like how you might call someone or a group of people Arab referring to the Arab nations. When you say Hispanic, you are saying of Spanish derived culture ! So that is accurate as these people come from Hispanic America. They are Hispanic by culture religion language ! BUT NOT RACE!
chsn09 2 years ago
The people in this video are Just as much Hispanic as they are black !
These are Afro Colonial Panamanians ! They are SPanish speaking black Panamanians and are Roman Catholic and are different from the West Indian descent minority in Panama !
chsn09 2 years ago
I hear you but what similarities do they share with chicanos aztecs mayans the italians in argentina the mestizos in el salvador?? what is the hispanic link besides spain kicking ass and taking names?
touggie2000 2 years ago
It is the same thing with the West Indians and Caribbean !
The Spanish speaking Latin American natiions share a bond with each other because of their tied histories with Spain and being all under spanish control.
The West Indies have a connection because of their cultures and histories despite different languages, Like Guyana is in South America and Belize in Central America yet they are considered West Indies as well !
chsn09 2 years ago
true! but spanish speakers are the only ones using their colonizers title LATIN west indian even though its a lie as far as the indian part is concerned it just a false name for a location not the actual people LAtin american us a inposed lable for the land and the people they are not all Latin..
touggie2000 2 years ago
Also there are a lot of Black people in Argenitna and Ecuador and Chile and Uruguay and Paraguay !
Black people are everywhere ! Even in El Salvador !
chsn09 2 years ago
yeah and those blacks have a cultural and racial link to Africa they may have a linguistic connection to spain but that was forced and that is it just the language. what kind of practices do you see with the blacks in all the countries you mentioned and the practices in spain today?? what do they have in common? food NO dance NO oral tradition NO and the religion is a weak example because many afro descendants infuse african religions in everyday life. so can you answer any?
touggie2000 2 years ago
And also, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Costa Rica all share a history together as Central America !
Panama, Colombia, Ecuador, and Venezuela share a history together and even culturally !
Peru and Bolivia shared history with each other because of their union !
Paraguay, Argentina, and Chile, have a very similar history.
And Puerto Rico, Cuba, Dominican Republic all shared a similar history as being the Spanish West Indies.
chsn09 2 years ago
Haiti and Brazil have different histories in terms of European powers but their essences are still sort of the same !
So their is a bond !
chsn09 2 years ago
the difference is blacks in hati kicked ass they got blacked balled no doubt but they still kicked ass.
touggie2000 2 years ago
So I think if we are referring to people in the U.S. who are immigrants or come from a distinct culture we should use these terms ! Like for example, if we just say "Oh my West Indian friend is coming over " That term does not signal race, although it is implied that that person would be black ignorantly or presumably! If i say "Oh one of my Hispanic or Latino class mates or friends" that does not signal race either, however, U.S. society has given that a racial value !
chsn09 2 years ago
The whole point of the term Hispanic/Latino comes from the fact that throughout global history and colonization of the New World, and wherever, The English were always jealous of the Spaniards for their success and wealth ! And because of that, English resorted to violence and attacks on Spanish and the Spanish colonies.
And because the English always had a rivalry with the Spaniards and wanted what they thought was their right and for their benefit turned into animosity !
chsn09 2 years ago
And so since the U.S. is an Anglo country as the U.S. was a British colony, much of the root of colonial British culture in the U.S. was retained and remained to form the essential roots of U.S. history/culture/society !
And so from that the people of the U.S. considered themselves natives of the land and just considered themselves to be Americans and just wat truly was and the status quo !
chsn09 2 years ago
So since White Anglo Saxons Protestants (WASPS) formed the crux and power of American society and that was the status quo, they held up the history of the British colonizers.
The Spanish were white also but they were Roman Catholic and spoke spanish and had spanish names of course lol !
And so around the time that the U.S. is a nation and the U.S. intervenes in Latin America and through dealings with Spanish American powers, they develop these ideas of differences
chsn09 2 years ago
So, people who have a solid Latin American identity come here, and the U.S. begins to see this as a threat to traditional American culture, and they look at Spanish speakers as outsiders because they speak Spanish and are Roman Catholic, and also many of these people want to be white but are culturally and linguisitically marked and distinguished !
chsn09 2 years ago
And through the U.S. dealings and intervention and power they recieved while through relations with Latin America, the U.S. looked at Latin Americans as being unrefined and Hispanic and thinking of them as lower than.
Also because of the high rate of mixing that took places, it was hard to tell what race many were.
Many Latin Americans had some black in them. Many were mixed up and had dark skinned !
So U.S. racialization made the Latin Americans to be "mongrels" and like "negroes"
chsn09 2 years ago
Because of all this, then immigration of Latin Americans with a solid Latin American identity grew !
And So the U.S. feels that Spanish and Hispanics and Latinos are a threat to the U.S. cultural orientation and therefore must distinguish which ones are not "true Americans"
So the terms Hispanic/Latino were first used as a term of solidarity for those people who were immigrants and from what grew as a political struggle. Mexicans were the first and in solidarity with African American strug
chsn09 2 years ago
And eventually, many people saw that the people of Latin America grew from a political struggle when arriving in the U.S.
And so because English and Spanish are historically continums of a contridictory paradox, their is a big animosity between Anglos and Hispanos
Anglos and Anglo black West Indians had difficulty becoming part of the Latin american countries they traveled too because of language and with Black West inidians because of race but also definitely because of language and religion!
chsn09 2 years ago
why do we have to use that roman guy identity you becuase we speak his language? why we cant we use the little african girls lable you know the one that was beaten raped called a mono? we are dancing the congo in the video and using african drums let make the U.S. know OUR TRUE ROOTS not what they say we should be because of some rich slave owning roman spainard freanch italian rapist etc. now if these people are your ancestors fine do you but they arent mine im not LATIN or ANGLO
touggie2000 2 years ago
BTW, I am not Latin, and I am not Anglo ! I don't identify as either ! I identify as just Black American and West Indian, however, I could say that I am anglo for the fact that I speak English and have ancstors who were slaves for the English ! Also, when comparing blacks of different cultural regions African Americans of U.S. are referred to as Anglo black !
chsn09 2 years ago
i love my people one love. Gamal de colon
en massachusetts u.s.a
mack3dg27 3 years ago