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  • If OSX is licenced to thirdparty Apple they would lose sales. Plain and simple. Apple is a Hardware company. In the early 90's they nearly went bankrupt with clones and now they are the most valuable technology company in the World. I would tend to disagree with your reasoning and business model. Psystar is a leaching company. They add nothing to the apple band.

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  • I can't wait hahaha, when I build a pc 10x the spec of your shitty assed overpriced bs macs and put your little baby os on it LMAO. . . apple is gonna change.

  • really i doubt it fucker

  • @1xxxDre4mxxx1

    why are anti apple ppl so interested in osx and its gonna cost alot to outdoo the mac pro in price probably only save a 1 or 2 hundred if that

  • Sorry, some people don't want to shell out the extra money for all-in-ones.

  • the imac is cheaper then a alianwear

  • No, its not. Stop watching Applesoldier's videos. He knows NOTHING about computer hardware. He thinks that an ATI 4850 could run just as good as a 5870.

  • it can on a mac

    use mac users can get the same power out of a 4850 as you get out of a 5870 go out and give mac a try you will see that you are blinded with Microsoft propaganda

  • A video card with 512mb of VRAM, a core clock of 625mHz and 800 stream processors can have the same power as a GPU with 1GiB of VRAM, a core clock of 850mHz, and 1600 Stream Processors??ROFL! Whose the one blinded by propaganda? No, Apple's magic logo does NOT make hardware twice as powerful.

    Even if it does, that give no justification to pay more for less when one buys Apple.

  • @korwinblue

    don't think the hardware runs faster i think its a case that the os drains it less than windows as it is a chuck bit of software to run even idle. may be wrong but thats what i think iv seen the new macs co and the gpu runs amazingly well concidering

  • I NO

  • I love your idealism regarding OSX, and i would like to see the day where i can install OSX on my PC hardware, i just don't see it happening.

  • Look, if you're saying Windows PCs run faster with equivalent hardware, you are totally wrong. Macs run faster. They have a better operating system. OS X is based on Unix. If you think Windblows runs faster with equivalent hardware, think again! You're totally wrong. It's been talked about before. Windows is garbage! You'd be better off with Linux Ubuntu. Windows is a laughing stock! Look at all the RAM upgrades needed after installing Vista!

  • Dude, you sound like some pathetic kid, and you certainly don't know much about technology. It's no wonder you don't even put your age on your profile.  I don't need to "prove" anything. I bought a Mac, and you bought a PC, and I guess that explains it all. You keep believing Dells beat Macintosh computers. Everyone that sees your video will know you are not very intellectually sound.

  • Ummm, you haven't owned me at all. You don't know what you're talking about, and I don't feel like replying to someone who sounds like a total imbecile.

  • Your profile says Russia, dude. Unless you're lying, that's what it says. Also, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Macs run far better than PCs with Windblows. You have tons of overhead, and Macs are better in every sense of the word.

  • By the way, I even beat a Russian at chess, and he got all mad because an American beat him. He said this, and I am not joking: "I can't be your friend anymore." Oh, go cry me a river, you Russian bum. Your own women won't even sleep in the bed with you at night. Just in separate rooms.

  • All I got to say is one last thing. What does a freaking, worthless Scythian know about computer technology?  Tanks, guns, dictatorial power... yeah, maybe you know more than me. But, you must be one of those Russians who picked up a Dell at the local бензозаправочная станчии. Try doing that on a PC!

  • On your YouTube profile - emirilyasov - it says you're Russian. How can you even afford a computer anyway? I think Ameircans no far more about Apple computers than Russians do. I don't think there's a Apple store in downtown Moscow.

  • Video Ram no important, emirilyasov!??? Do me a favor. Tell that to a gamer! You are the one sounding like a NOOB. There's Macbooks playing PC versions of Crysis in Windows, so don't tell me Macs can't play games, and don't tell me if we went with a low end Mac Pro tower that we couldn't get good gaming performance. You make no sense.

  • emirilyasov, you are putting words in my mouth. I never said computers run off of VRAM. That's only video ram. You are wrong about Apple's VRAM ability. Apple uses VRAM better. Why do you think Apple runs Vista faster than a PC according to PC WORLD? It's simple! But, I guess you can't see it. Windows has too much overhead. You need all that power to push that CRAPPY operating systems, and Apple sails through like baby oil!

  • Apple only gives you what you need. Not Overkill! If you want power, get a Mac Pro 8 core tower. If you want overkill... There's plenty of power these days on the market. I'm playing high end games on my Macbook Pro with only 256 megs of video ram, because Apple handles video ram better than a PC. Not as much overhead, and they run better, too.  Apple hardware is not junk. Geforce, Intel, iSight, Airport Extreme, firewire and a solid hard drive... You make no sense!

  • The sales would soar!? This is why I disagree:

    Those that believe this need to understand that's it's not that simple. Apple would need to come up with an approach to deal with support for all the different hardware in the market. This means new sale logistics, a broader scope of training, and more work all around for the support staff, technical or otherwise. This also means, having to change their QA procedure, and that's not taking into account security, compatibility, etc..

  • Dude great video! Subbed.

  • OSX on a PC, not a big thing for me. I wouldn't mind the idea if it's legal. I'd personally just want the applications to be cross platform. I wouldn't have to buy hardware + the software just to run the application.

    Mac users can keep the OSX on apple hardware and all I care is that applcations work across both Windows/OSX. I hope maybe some Mac users will agree with it.

  • "

    Mac users can keep the OSX on apple hardware and all I care is that applcations work across both Windows/OSX. I hope maybe some Mac users will agree with it."

    Crossover mac makes it possible to run (some) Windows Programs in OSX...

    The problem with cross-compatibility, is that you get the good and the bad.

  • But that's one way, you don't get say Final Cut on Windows or Linux... I think that's the problem... and running things emulated isn't always the best thing to do, you wouldn't build a farm of Macs running Cross over rendering 3Ds Max graphics would you?

    Note I am no graphics designer it is just a quick example I just think of.

  • "and running things emulated isn't always the best thing to do, you wouldn't build a farm of Macs running Cross over rendering 3Ds Max graphics would you?"

    Sunz, Crossover isn't emulation. It is a compatibility layer.

  • Gates like Windows to run on everything??

    Really?

    But it runs on like less than 10% of architectures Linux supports??

  • true, i shouldn't have phrased it that way, that is more to the modern hardware vendors excluding RISC . at that time there were a lot of boxes like necs and the like that ms could be run on. at that time the idea was to have your hardware and customize the software to it, but MS changed that.

  • I shouldn't say changed, but proved a different strategy would become more dominant.

  • Haha, that's kind of funny, people would have thought that customising software for hardware is easier and cost less, but it turns out it is easier to "throw hardware" at the problem so to speak. :p

  • "Haha, that's kind of funny, people would have thought that customising software for hardware is easier and cost less, but it turns out it is easier to "throw hardware" at the problem so to speak. :p"

    Well, yeah

    Users can use hardware to brute force their way through problems. Tho, customizing the OS for the software is far more efficient.

  • only having one PC vendor would constitute a monopoly, which is illegal...

  • Stop pretending to be me stupid asshole.

  • WTF dude, you again! Don't listen to this guy. He's account is macosxruiez. He made it look like that's my account :@ Fucking troll.

  • Haven't Apple already tried doing a mac os on non-apple hardware and didn't it nearly cripple apple? I agree with you completely Mac OS X should be free, but not at the cost of stability and such which is what worries me.

  • "Haven't Apple already tried doing a mac os on non-apple hardware and didn't it nearly cripple apple?"

    Yes, it was a HORRIBLE idea.

    Apple is a HARDWARE company that uses it's software as a added bonus to entice consumers. They make money off of HARDWARE sales.

    Microsoft can sell their OS openly because they don't make computers.

  • I think it'd be awesome for us because there are some who can't just afford macs it doesn't make them fools or idiots, they just arn't as fortunate as us. I think the only reason anyone buys a mac is for the OS

  • "I think it'd be awesome for us"

    That doesn't matter.

    Allowing Mac clones was the STUPIDEST idea in commercial history.

    "I think the only reason anyone buys a mac is for the OS"

    That is NOT true. Not at all. Macs have incredibly good industrial design. Plus, if you want an All-In-One computer, and iMac is the only viable option. There are PC AIO machines, but they are all less powerful and more expensive than an iMac.

  • Why doesn't something being awesome for us matter? we are the consumer, supply and demand, we want something and we get it. So you're telling me the majority would buy a mac even if it didn't have mac os x? I'm sorry but i disagree, nobody is going to buy a mac and put vista/xp on it, when you can guy a much cheaper pc, with more power with vista/xp on it. It doesn't make economical sense.

  • "Why doesn't something being awesome for us matter?"

    Because, if Apple does something as reckless as that and goes bankrupt, there won't be any further development of OSX or other Apple OSes, that's why.

    "we are the consumer, supply and demand, we want something and we get it."

    Look, you clearly don't understand supply and demand if you think Apple should do something so dumb to satisfy what YOU want. They don't care about YOU.

  • Well obviously they were in desperate circumstances back then and Steve Jobs is at the helm, he won't let this company sink. I think it is you who doesn't understand supply and demand my friend. Why do you think Companies do research pior to endevouring to make something? To find out what people want and provide it, they're not gonna give people something nobody wants are they.All i'm saying is it should be free, not that it will be. Don't bite my head off because i have a different opinon.

  • "Steve Jobs is at the helm, he won't let this company sink. "

    He is already keeping Apple from sinking by NOT making reckless decisions like the one that you WANT him to do.

    Seriously, it doesn't work. LEARN from history.

    "Why do you think Companies do research pior to endevouring to make something?"

    Apple ALREADY did research. It's called trying and FAILING.

    "All i'm saying is it should be free"

    NO, it should NOT. Apple is a hardware company.

  • " I'm sorry but i disagree, nobody is going to buy a mac and put vista/xp on it, when you can guy a much cheaper pc, "

    You CAN NOT buy a cheaper All In One PC than an iMac

    You CAN NOT buy a Dell workstation at the Mac Pro's spec for less than a Mac Pro.

    You CAN NOT get a less expensive Mini Computer than a Mac Mini at Spec.

    Seriously dude, research what's REALLY going on and look up your history.

    You want Apple to KILKL themselves as a company because you're too cheapass to just get a Mac.

  • nOscOp35,

    Yeah if say OSX does go to PC, Apple has some well designed computers and pretty good tech support to back the reason people should buy an Apple over a similar OSX OEM, plus they can still always make applications for the Mac.

  • "Yeah if say OSX does go to PC, Apple has some well designed computers and pretty good tech support to back the reason people should buy an Apple over a similar OSX OEM, plus they can still always make applications for the Mac."

    WORST IDEA EVER!

    Seriously guys, Apple is making gains and is improving every day, if they Aren't doing what you WANT them to do, there is a damn good reason for it!

    This idea, not only failed Apple, but EVERY other company that allowed clones.

    Clones = DEATH

  • Well that just proves how dumb you are, Just because people have different opinions to you doesn't make them pc users. I now own a macbook, an Imac and a Mac Mini. Just because i have a different opinions from you. Don't bite my head off because of it.

  • "Just because people have different opinions to you doesn't

    Hey, if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and walks like a duck.

    "Don't bite my head off because of it."

    Seriously, if you don't want to be called ignorant, don't say ignorant things. For you to own Macs, you sure don't understand Apple very well.

  • "Because, if Apple does something as reckless as that and goes bankrupt, there won't be any further development of OSX or other Apple OSes, that's why."

    In that case (if they go bankrupt), they can always just release the whole OS X to the wild as open source and if it is any good, it'll survive!!!

    That's how Netscape become Mozilla FireFox, roughly.

  • "n that case (if they go bankrupt), they can always just release the whole OS X to the wild as open source and if it is any good, it'll survive!!!"

    And suffer Amiga OS's fate? NEVER!

    Look, it is a Bad idea. Plain and simple.

    Want Open Source, Download Darwin or something. Leave OSX ALONE.

    Seriously, Apple is doing the RIGHT thing for the continued existence of their company! This isn't a game!

  • I said "If they go bankrupt". I mean, I personally don't want to see OS X just fade away if Apple happens to go bankrupt.

    BTW I think AmigaOS is getting resurrected as Haiku OS, and it actually looks very promising!! There is a Google Tech Talk about it on Google's YouTube channel, but I haven't had time to watch it yet (over 40 minutes.) but I will give it a shot after school exams.

  • There are plenty of mac users who would like to see mac os x on a pc. It seems to be that you are the ignorant one. Just because i have a differing opinion does not make me a pc user. Get that through your head. Automatically assuming someone is a pc user because they have differing opinions is a big mistake. If you don't want to be seen as ignorant allow someone to have their own opinion and be a mac user, not that what you say has any impact on me.

  • I'm going to put an end to this little debate. All i'm saying is some people would love to use mac os x but they simply cannot afford the price apple charges. Wanting mac os x on a pc for them is not "cheapass" its just their opportunity to use an amazing OS. I think if Apple made a mid-tower like psystar that would be awesome.

  • "All i'm saying is some people would love to use mac os x but they simply cannot afford the price apple charges."

    Then they should SAVE their money or live without it.

    Apple CHOSE to do things the way they do because THAT way is vital to their survival as a company.

    "Wanting mac os x on a pc for them is not "cheapass" its just their opportunity to use an amazing OS."

    Hey, if you can't afford a new Mac, BUY A USED ONE!

  • " I think if Apple made a mid-tower like psystar that would be awesome."

    I did too until I looked at how that would effect Apple's product lineup.

    It wouldn't work. A Mid-Tower would cannibalize Apple's Mac Pro and iMac sales. Apple would have to RAISE the prices of their Mac Pro and iMac lines in order to keep them profitable.

    Notice hoe the Mac Pro and iMac have best in category pricing while PC venders tend to be much more expensive in those categories?

  • "I'm going to put an end to this little debate."

    Don't bother, I already ended it for you.

  • "There are plenty of mac users who would like to see mac os x on a pc."

    I don't CARE about what they WANT, I care about what WORKS.

    I WANT a BILLION Dollars, but the easiest way for me to get it will wind me up in prison.

    "Just because i have a differing opinion does not make me a pc user. "

    Whatever.

    "Automatically assuming someone is a pc user because they have differing opinions is a big mistake. "

    It's called a deduction, I DEDUCED that you were a poser.

  • cool

  • EMEEK gets OWNED in THIS video. Well done ;)

  • lol well not anymore...phsyster is fakeeee

    i laugh at u dumb posers

    Not you mr.bit...u rock :)

  • that article was old and CNET already tested the machine. They did not show it on as they are likely afraid of a law suit, but the product seems legit so far. If it is not, it does not change my opinion which is not psystar but OS X on non-apple products.

  • Bravo.

  • wtf? Leave me alone you gay fuck.

  • Steve said that more than a decade ago...

  • Steve Jobs hates beige boxes so don't expect OS X to run legally on them until he dies :S

  • Good points, Solaris for Intel has a HCL Hardware Compatibility List, so I remember back in the time of Solaris 8 I think going to source parts from the HCL to build a machine and it was a tough job. These days it runs on more stuff. But I guess the point is Unix, Linux and OSX are more stable than windows in general.

  • I also had a PC that with Windows 2000 was unstable and a huge problem, I put Red Hat 9 on it and ran it as a Web Server for 3 years, the only time it went down was due to a power cut.

    Providing the hardware is not faulty, the stability is how well the software or OS is able to manage the computing tasks, clearly Unix variants including OSX do this very well.

  • Should OSX be allowed to run on other systems apart from Apple machines. I think that is a decision for Apple.

    If OSX was licensed it might increase Apple sales, for example some would like to try OSX and if they like it then may say you know what I will get a Mac because I like it.

    However one of the great things about Mac and OSX is the whole package and experience of the complete product. I can see both sides of the debate here.

  • no doubt apple has great a package. glad to see you are still around, i know you have been busy.

  • Yes, too much to do and too little time... :-)

  • Fuck Emeek. Let him assume what he wants to. He'll never change.

  • He will change. He just needs to be tied to a chair with a chainsaw at his throat.

  • I miss you my poor old account!

  • mrbit10 your heaps mad! keep making videos your awesome!

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