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  • "If there is no problem, then there is no reason to given them money, or to pay attention to them"

    The only gentleman feminists value and respect has a name, and it is Mr. Money.

  • @Eabranth That is brilliant.

  • of course they decieve and lie ^^ its a leftist movement so its part of their nature

  • @youtomia exactly right! Why should I (a white male) get equal pay?!? I'm 25 and my family has only been in America for 2 generations am still responsible for slavery! Equality!?! Are you fucking serious? This is why your "movement" is nothing but ignorant, misguided hate talk. I love how you "feminists" can blatently state it's okay for males to less money and all other inequalities while at the same time demanding shit. Well fuck you, fuck your dirty cunt mother and father who never gave you

  • I was wondering if you can point me to the publication of the study (or analysis of another) where June O'Neill made theses observations. I am NOT saying it doesn't exist. Rather it's 4am and my search-fu is failing me.

    It would be greatly appreciated as I'd love to share the results of such a credible, rational, and established professional woman with doe-y eyed feeling and not thinking reactionaries I'm surrounded by.

    Thank you and keep up the brilliant work.

  • Youto: May I suggest that when you make a argument, it might be a bit important to "care"about the facts of the arguement lol.

  • this persons my hero!

  • Whichever is true, I don't care. But even if women do get a slightly better pay somehow, why do you bitch and complain if women only have had somewhat of an equality for the past few decades while society has been purely male-dominated for the past few thousand years?

  • @Youtomia

    "Whichever is true, I don't care."

    Therein lies the problem.

  • @TheHappyMisogynist How exactly is that a problem? Do you want me to care enough to stir up more trouble and hate?

  • @Youtomia

    Not caring about the truth is exactly what stirs up trouble and hate. Being too stupid to know that doesn't help.

  • @TheHappyMisogynist Wrong. If I didn't care about it in the first place, I wouldn't be arguing about it at all and there would be no hate. Being on stand by isn't a crime.

    I like how you completely ignored my previous question and just picked out one line and shat your bitter, hate-filled yet impertinent comment.

  • @Youtomia

    Look, dumbass, it was you that said you didn't care about the truth. It was, in fact, that was your very first words here. I didn't ignore any question from you because you never really asked one- except in the rhetorical sense. IOW, it wasn't really a question but a statement where you justified lies because of perceived historical disadvantages.

    If you are willing to justify lies, there is no point in taking you seriously.

  • @TheHappyMisogynist

    I don't understand why you bothered playing into their tactic of "debate". the original statement was ridiculously passive aggressive and a blatant lie. They obviously cared enough to make a poor attempt to dismiss the content of the video by pointing at history without knowledge and certainly without context.

    The person likely also doesn't understand concepts such as division of labor/risk, the social contract, and pragmatism.

  • @TheHappyMisogynist I agree with you anger is better than apathy. Anger is enthusiasm, apathy is to surrender. Besides not long ago women had the right to state what they considered injustice and now us men are finding the same injustice done on us we are told to shut up. FU if you think I should keep my mouth shut like a cage animal. I agree with you TheHappyMisogynist. Z males

  • @Youtomia you sir are an troll

  • The reason this myth still lives is cause people do not look to see how feminists come up with statistics such as these, they never question where they got their sources and how, and thats what feminists are dependent upon, for you to keep being oblivious.

    If you call out their sources yourself and actually investigate you can easily debunk this myth, and until more people grow a brain and do the same, this myth will still be as famous as the Bigfoot myth.

  • @Moralvorstellung racial quota is NOT the downfall of the country. Because someone may work at a fast food chain or picking fruits & doesn't speak english very well will not hurt McDonalds nor most businesses in America. Yes mentally handicapped & other races should be given a chance. Everyone has a first job (not a career) & many have gone through a few jobs or more which we weren't good at or hated. It has been this way for a long time. Most jobs require people to speak & undersrtand english

  • @Moralvorstellung sorry I'm not misinformed. These actual experiences I've had are factual. Disagree all you want. Because your persoal experiences are different do not disqualify mine. The company I worked for that wouldn't put specificaly blacks into a money handling position, I worked for them 10 yrs. 1996-2006. Most blacks who applied were qualified to handle money & do math very well, factual. We gave math tests to applicants. The racism was real & could be heard not just in jokes (facts).

  • It is nice to hear truth on this issue for a change, not the poclitical correct. There are very evil women out there folks and they are still out there.... They continue to manipulate and lie in order to use their gender as a leverage and in the process they walk over men on their walk to the top.

  • Gold! Go your own way, brothers.

  • You rule, Amfortas

  • Another problem today is that male chivalry still exists, when women got their rights and able to work and support themselves without the aid of men, male chivalry should have died at that point, but it did not.

    Even though women are able to go out and earn the same size of a paycheck men do, men are still expected to care for women hand and foot, one of the reasons behind this is the alleged pay gap, which created the illusion women still could not care for themselves, which preserved chivalry

  • It`s great to see the intelligent people are on the side of truth. Great video. Never stop speaking the truth. For all our sakes.

  • i cant stand Harriet harmen

  • great video, I wish you make another about jobs, only using RACE instead of gender. Sad to say that I still see & hear so much racism in the workplace. The only jokes I hear are about race & religion. I won't tell you what companies I've worked for but I'll say 90-99% of blacks weren't put into a money handling position or "MOVING UP"despite qualifications even in such a diverse place as Seattle, WA. Keeping others down & being immoral seems to be the "IN" thing. -----USA SUCKS

  • @MrAubery You're a misinformed idiot concerning the race issue. Hiring incompetent blacks that have done poorly on entrance exams, and hiring them ONLY to meet the racial quota is part of the downfall of any country. Our service sector is already declining because governments reward companies who hire blacks, mentally retarded, non-English speaking morons who can't find their own asses with both hands. I see it everyday. All in the name of giving equality to everyone, regardless of the outcome.

  • In Sweden we had women making 75-80% of men during the 70's. Controlling for differences in different positions of job they made 98.6%. There never was wage discrimination of women. Condsider if 20% was seen in favour of women controlling for differences between jobs, what would be seen if controlling for differences _within_ a job too. Such as male police doing the risky task whereas the female police just frisks other woman, all else equal. There is nowtoday wage discrimination against men!

  • Sigh feminism.  It sure is fun pointing your fingers at men and blaming them for all your problems isn't it?

  • In the latest edition of the AARP Bulletin magazine, they dedicate the last page to celebrating how "She's the boss." Center stage was that 51% of Americans that (still) have jobs are women. They even provided a breakdown of what jobs women had. Not surprisingly, all listed jobs were government/service sector. Amidst all the celebration, however, they just had to give the 80c/$1 figure, as if it was a testament to the strength of women to achieve all of this despite being paid less.

  • Whats the name of the book?

  • The myth of male power.

    Great book.

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  • Nice work, but I agree, maybe you should take down, hope your not telling to many at WalMart what you have done, give them NOTHING!

  • some of the guys openly bitch about it in private among other men and they never dissagree

  • Well said, awesome video

  • concujak - KevinMerck:

    Let us all agree that feminism is bad...

    We need to put aside our petty differences - and unite.

    Save the petty arguments for a post-feministic society.

  • I totally agree :)

  • 5 star comment

  • @sccrow72 Why does it have to go back to the way things were? Why can't you put aside your objections and accept this change for the better? I don't think women are better than men, I think that we all should be treated equally because we are, and with the way things were, we were not treated as one of you. We were litteraly treated as the appendages "god" was supposed to have made Eve from.

  • women say: a women's work is never done. (that's why they get paid less)

  • The wage gap has always existed. But then again. Men have been in the workforce for far longer than women have. Since the beginning of recorded history there arnt as many accounts of women in the workforce as men in the workforce. Thats historically speaking. Economically, only recently have women started to fill postions that men only had filled.

  • Have you thought of why this is? I will comment further after hearing how you came to your conclusion.

  • Open a history book. Women arnt metioned in many records as working as much as males or making as much. This isnt always the case, in mesopotamia* women were allowed to work as much as they wanted and were still entitled to half of what their husbands had in a divorce.

    Although there are greater issues other than how much they worked. The records are not always clear on who got payed what, and how often they worked. Women have been not seen as significant in the workplay until recently.PLZCMT

  • WEll said...too bad the happymysogynist didnt mention this  fact.

  • Wage discrimination based on gender is illegal and in most cases doesn't happen. It's been my experience that women get equal pay, but are not expected to measure up. The best example of this is in the military where only 2% of the nearly 5000 Iraq dead are women. (Damn those privileged men) That's in a military comprised of nearly 20% females.

    When people are responsible for negotiating their own salaries, women settle for less money than their male counterparts and then whine about it ...

  • "women settle for less when negotiationg"

    Haven't you learned yet that they should be given it without them asking? :)

    Joking aside: Let's not generalize this to women as a gender. "Women" don't later whine. Feminist women do.

  • A non-feminist woman would not take offense to my comment. Most women know that feminists are not being realistic. They would understand the intent of my comment without a chivalrous asshole pointing out the political incorrectness of it.

    What makes things even worse than a politically-correct-nonsensica­l-feminist is a chivalrous asshole like you.

    Stop defending women, and start treating them as equals. You may also try commenting on the video next time.

  • "" Most women know that feminists are not being realistic. They would understand the intent of my comment without a chivalrous asshole pointing out the political incorrectness of it.""

    I don't even know where to comment you made on me. It's like calling George Gush a german hippies communist or something.

    Just because we disagree on how MRA should be done, is no excuse for you to tell me I'm not a TRUE representative and the exact opposite.

  • We were born and raised to protect and defend women at all cost.

    Many of us are not aware of the extent to which we are enslaved by this chivalrous predisposition.

    Stop coming to the defense of women. Many of these women you sacrifice your own wellbeing for would not lift a finger to help you and they prove it every single minute of each passing day.

    Men are by far their own worst enemy.

    Good women want equality; they don't want chivalrous assholes rushing to their rescue.

  • Notice how you're projecting this, based out of 6 assumptions made out of a single sentence?

    I actually found out about MRA FROM BOTH ANTI-FEMINIST WOMEN AND MEN.

    You made 6 layers of assumptions, and assumed I'm protecting and sacrificing myself for women who wouldn't lift their finger for me. Based on what? Assumptions and projections.

    Isn't it possible you made a jump in conclusion before you insulted me?

    You're like a male feminist. You read so much into sentences, its funny.

  • Here's my actual point, which you could have read from my 1 sentence, if you bothered to, instead of immediately jumping into insults and stereotyping

    I think we're doing a service to feminists if we equate all women to feminism. Because expectations breed reality

    I have high-standards for women, and expect them that if they are sane, they will be an anti-feminist

    But just because I don't have the exact same wording as you, you irrationally instantly jumped into stereotyping and insulting me

  • "I think we're doing a service to feminists if we equate all women to feminism."

    I didn't equate all women to feminists. Read my comment. I stated that women who negotiate their own salaries and settle for less money whine about it. How is that equating all women to feminists, when the number of women negotiating their own salaries is a relatively small number?

    You are a chivalrous asshole who refuses to be rational.

  • - You are the one using assumptions and actual insults, even if you don't know me.

    - You posted a 2 paragraph comment assaulting me a gazillion accusations based on a SINGLE sentence I wrote (including actual insults)

    - I am the irrational one :)

    Yes that makes sense :D

    Your original comment is still there for proof. You didn't say "the women who settle then whine", You said "women settle and whine"

    I simply in humour pointed out we might expand on that. Which cause a violent response back

  • Have a nice weekend Alek.

    I don't see any more point in arguing with you than I would with an irrational feminist. The number of women who negotiate their own salaries is a small fraction of the female population; it's amusing to me how you can twist that to include all women.

    Any rational woman, who reads my initial comment, should not be offended by it, because it's the truth. Only a feminist would be offended by the truth, too bad that includes you.

  • That's fine. Which is also my belief.

    The problem is THIS. We agree. Yet you AUTOMATICALLY assumed I don't from one sentence to which you attached a gazillion assumptions and projections, and then assaulted me for your own projections about what I must mean... instead of asking for a clarification.

    The only person acting like a feminist here is you. I have yet to stoop to the insulting level.

  • Why so much insulting.... if you need to get a message or your opinion across, there are plenty of non profane ways to do so. You seem intelligent enough to know this...

  • Thanks for the constructive feedback, but I think I made my point quite nicely.

    The word "asshole" is hardly "profane" in any reasonable person's book. It's more an accurate description of the type of chivalrous person, who rushes to the defense of women, when women are the worst human right's violators in modern history.

    Save your politically-correct "bullshit" for someone else. (No offense intended)

    The reason you read my commentary is because it was pointed, not because it was PC.

  • Wow, I must say. It wasn't meant as "politically-correct "bullshit"" It was simply the truth. If you don't find "asshole" profane... I don't know what to say. Except for maybe that discussions should be limited towards subjects directly related to the postings of TheHappyMisogynist...

  • You might consider practicing what you preach.

    I don't see any of your comments directed at the content of the video, (like my initial comment) you choose to comment on someone else's comment, which is what the chivalrous asshole did. You would rather criticize the comments of others than contribute your own ideas.

    My guess is that you have nothing to contribute on the subject.

    You're like a mindless feminist who wants to control what other people think and say.

  • Moving on...

    most can agree, this is a very objective (and insightful) view on the current situation here in North America (and probably elsewhere too)

    Though there are a lot of ethnic people here and I have noticed that they don't seem to be that way. I think maybe media, magazines, school maybe? have jammed this down the mind of the youth... not entirely sure where the source of the problem stems from

  • Hey AlekNovy, I agree with Kevin's take on it, but don't think u deserve to get beat up over this,Like sccrow72 said, but leaving you out of it, let's not get tied up in symantics, we all agree this a serious problem & feminist have counted on men fighting with each other for too long. This message is for all involved & not meant to point fingers at anyone, let's just focus on the point at hand MRM. OFCOURSE right minded women are WELCOMED & appreciated, but this fix comes from men.

  • If they make less money than men, it's because of the choices they make in life, not because of discrimination.

    The N.O.W. is a group of upper-middle-class *white women* promoting gender discrimination, and someday will have as much credibility as the K.K.K., if they don't stop their lunacy.

    There are far more important issues we face as a society than the constant bickering between the sexes. It's time to stop dividing ourselves along gender lines and focus on more important issues.

  • Love your work man. There's one thing that keeps bothering me: when you say "anglophile", I'm pretty sure you actually mean "anglophone"

  • The fundamental belief underlying all of feminism is that women and men aren't different and therefore, any large-scale discrepancies in outcomes for men and women is automatically the result of discimination or oppression. The mere suggestion that the "wage gap" is actually a result of behaviors like women gravitating towards less lucrative professions is considereed sexist. (Curiously though, nobody has ever complained about the male/female "incarceration gap")

  • I have watched many videos and read many articles concerning the false claim of women earning less than men, but this is perhaps the most concise and persuasive argument I have heard to date.

    Amfortas is an excellent narrator and some fine writing on your behalf Paul.

  • Many thanks and glad you enjoyed.

    Paul

  • Well done. A really excellent presentation and a great collaboration.

  • this is King Canute staying the tide

  • Hardly. Canute was duped and alone. I am neither.

  • Simply put, thankyou :)

  • Feminist are lyers!

  • Ages ago someone said "A woman's place is in the home". Things have changed. Cool.

    What that person forgot to mention was that, the same statement implies that a man's place is in the workforce. And there he has been, ever since.

    Did anyone every think about the man's rights? I don't know a single man who WANTS to do the crappy work, even if it IS better-paid.

  • The biggest mistake feminists ever made was to think men had power. The harder they chase that pipe dream, the more they end up caged into the burdens of being "powerful"

  • A breath of fresh air! Keep it up!

  • An excellent contribution. The best treatment I have seen of this subject since Carrie Lukas in *The Politically Incorrect Guide to Women, Sex, and Feminism.*

  • Thanks to all for the good comments and ratings. If you believe in the cause of men's rights, please pass this video on to friends, family and feminists.

    Thanks, Paul

  • Brother Zuberi sends his regards!!

  • Excellent video! Thank you.

  • The AAUW also states in the Ex. Summary that The gender pay gap among full-time workers understates the real difference . . . because it excludes women who are not in the labor force ". Is it just me, or is the AAUW actually suggesting that we compare women who are NOT working to men who ARE working to get a more accurate picture of why women earn less than men? Youve got to admit, thats pretty funny. I guess Summers was right about that math/logic thing.

  • Re: The AAUW "study"- on the SECOND page of the Executive Summary, they admit that "less" means 5%.

    They state Female students cannot simply choose a major that will allow them to avoid the pay gap while on page 13 they state that women enjoy parity among engineers earning 105% of what their male peers earn. So, if women are behind 5%, its evidence of discrimination and a serious problem, but if men are behind 5%, its parity. What a bunch of clowns.

  • This is a reason I've never voted for a woman for anything.

  • Excellent tutorial. I felt like I was in the classroom with a narrative from a professor...It is enlightening, without being condescending.

    Facts, speak louder than opinions. The reality of "death jobs" is that women may romance them "equally"...but our men, actually DO them...with conviction, pride, and sacrifice.

  • Great topic and video presentation. This is a great starting point for a subject that needs to be reintroduced and discussed openly.

  • Top video, I may be pointing a few air-headed feminists (and manginas) in the direction of this video.

    I bet if it was the other way around, women out-earning men because of their individual choices, women would want to talk facts then, they'd say men don't work as hard as women, men do the easy jobs, men are lazier than women etc.

  • Superior!

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