NBA 1994 Finals gm 5 Rockets at Knicks part 1

[dalecampbl7]

well at least it was more of a series than the Rocket v. Magic series a year later.

[bigdog75ish]

Im a str8 up Knicks fan and I cannot watch this series without almost crying

[Exile101882]

@bigdog75ish That's how sum of us Bulls fans felt about the Bulls losing to New York In '94. Seems to me, that out of the 3 7game series the Knicks played that year, whoever had home court was gonna end up the winner. Let's face it, there was no dominant team that year, the Bulls, Knicks, and the Rockets were equally part of the top 3 teams that year; the Pacers would have lost to either Chicago or Houston.

[rafaleles]

Here in Brazil I could whatch the full game. Thanks God nobody here gives a fuck for OJ Simpson.

[Scampbell32]

....wheres jordan??

[RenyRuIez]

@Scampbell32 lolwut? Knicks vs Rockets?? Not Bulls vs. Whatever

[ElTuco84]

"GO New York GO" NY is back! Stoudemire said it !

[fothgt]

last big game we won, if t-mac, amare', and felton can mesh.....we might?

[Jkw718]

Just imagine if the Knicks had houston, spreewell and Larry Johnson back in the early 90's. They would have beaten the Bulls in the playoffs and win titles!!

Too bad those players came when Ewing had his bad knees and past his prime.

[Exile101882]

@Jkw718 If they would've had those players, their team would be stacked, and probably called the NY All-stars. They would still get beat cus the Bulls would have Rodman, Kukoc, Kerr and Randy Brown. But that's impossible because some of these guys were minors back then.

[nobody36]

i'm not an mj fan but, if he didn't play baseball chicago would've won 8 straight. houston being a fifth and sixth seed had no buisiness winning the title. much like the spurs, houston won titles in watered down seasons. the bulls always played the best the west had to offer, much like how the lakers always plays the best the east has to offer. houston played a knicks team who was always a reggie miller short and a young shaq. houston is forever known as the team who won the 2 michaeless titles.

[meanstreak1977]

@nobody36

Whatever man go look at the record books the Rockets owned the Bulls everytime they played.

[nobody36]

@meanstreak1977 first off, the 2 season games being spread apart i would say houston played chicago at the right time. i wouldn't put alot of stock in regular season match-ups. for example, miami owned the bulls in the regular season, but they could never beat them when it matter. and, in the bulls 72 win season utah won both season games. but, the bulls beat utah in 6 in the finals. the fact is, in the 90s the bulls were the only team that had a 5th gear. when everyone else had 4 gears at best.

[meanstreak1977]

@nobody36

I wouldn't dispute that the Michal Jordan Bulls were the overall best team in the league during the 90s, but clearly the MJ-less Bulls of 1994 were pretty weak, and even when he returned in 1995 they were still too weak down low with Horace grant going to the Magic that year.

People always seem to forget that MJ only missed half the season in 1995, and the Bulls were pretty good again and made it to the Eastern Conference Finals only to lose to the Magic.

[meanstreak1977]

@meanstreak1977

lol sorry i meant to write Eastern Conference Semi-Finals!

[meanstreak1977]

@nobody36

With such a weak 4 and 5 spot the Bulls were destroyed by the combo of Shaq and Horace Grant in the middle during the Eastern Conference Finals and even if they somehow had managed to squeak past the Magic in 1995 Clyde Drexler could slow MJ enough to give Hakeem Olajuwon was waiting to tear Luc Longley to peices and probably score 40+ every game after seeing the way he played Ewing in 1994 and Shaq in 1995 you know I'm right dude!

[nobody36]

@meanstreak1977 i mean if you want to be a homer fine. but, don't tell me i know you're right just cause you like houston. if 23 didn't retire how would houston beat a bulls team who just 3peated? and, don't say drexler cause in 92 michael already beat a better portland team that stared drexler. maxwell wasn't in jordan's league. houston had no one for pippen. the bulls had the experience factor. not to mention pj the goat for a coach. but for what it's worth hakeem would've schooled longley.

[nobody36]

@nobody36 i can't believe you consider jordan's comeback to be his best. jordan was not at his best and chicago still got to the 2nd round in 95. imagine if he was playing basketball in the 93 offseason and not baseball. again a motivated jordan who just 3peated was all of a sudden gonna flop to a team who never won anything. yeah i know not. being a homer is fine, but, when you're wrong you're wrong. and, in this situation houston fans are wrong. simple as that. rudy t outcoaching phil. "sure"

[meanstreak1977]

@nobody36

LOL I love how Bulls fans always say this kind of stuff. Part of being a champion is showing up to play and the fact is MJ decided to screw around for a year and a half so please don't tell me the Bulls really deserved the 94-95 titles by default. And are you telling me MJ wasn't motivated enough to make it out of the 2nd round in 95? The fact is the Rockets beat the best teams in the league two years in a row so just get over it!

[nobody36]

@meanstreak1977 oh i'm not a bulls fan at all. never have been. all i'm saying is you're acting as if houston had the 2 greatest teams in nba history. and play the best comp. when you know full well they did not. and, you're acting like the 45 jordan was jordan at his best. when everyone knows he wasn't. if jordan didn't retire, he wasn't going down to what would've his easiest comp in 5 finals. and, besides a better utah team had 2 cracks. what makes you think houston would've done better?

[nobody36]

@meanstreak1977 besides just being a homer. just appreciate houston's 2 meaningless titles, against 2 inferior opponents. the only 2 times houston play somebody good in the finals, was in 81 and 86, only to lose to boston twice. i really wouldn't jump up and down about beating the likes of the knicks and orlando. but, the astros suck, the texans suck, i guess you people would celebrate any win, no matter how inferior the comp is. just make sure you suck mj's cock next time you see him.

[meanstreak1977]

@nobody36 Are you nuts? You're telling me the 94 Blazers, Suns, Jazz and Knicks weren't good competition? And the 95 Jazz, Suns, Spurs and magic? You're just deluding yourself man. Do you think the NBA should have just suspended the 94 & 95 seasons while MJ went and played baseball?

[nobody36]

@meanstreak1977 he'll say, "you're from houston aren't you? and, you're welcome." lol

[meanstreak1977]

@nobody36 Do you realize how ridiculous you sound when you say IF Jordan had been there, IF Jordan hadn't retired...I can say IF too. IF the Rockets were all 20 feet tall and could shoot fireballs out of their ass they would have destroyed the MJ Bulls....

[nobody36]

@meanstreak1977 wow............... that's all you can come up with? to be honest, i'm not really reading your comments. cause you're just boring the piss outta me now. keep living in denial. i don't care.

[Exile101882]

@meanstreak1977 U gotta admit though, MJ retiring was an extreme and rare case. He never used any excuses for not winning, not injury, not sickness, bad officiating, not anything. His father was murdered in cold blood over sum bullshit Jordan got himself into wit sum mobsters, and his conscious wouldn't let him play anymore for feeling guilty as well as losing the person who introduced him to basketball. He always wanted to play baseball and figured it was as good time to chase his dream.

[meanstreak1977]

@Exile101882 well said, a lot more sensical than some of the idiotic comments below!

[crawford371]

The infamous OJ game!

[Angelslover9]

does this have the O.J chase

[KamHtown]

I'll say this quickly because it's a Knick Fan that upped this video. I'm a Rockets fan.

Anyhoo, my real comment is that I'm surprised that NBC even pulled away from this game. New York is the largest tv market in the country, and they have a team playing in it, yet they show the OJ Chase. Shows you how big the news on the other side of the country was.

I finally got to see all of game six a few years ago on dvd.

[hswieca]

Garden hasnt been this electric in years...

[jhongottii]

@houston rocket 101 suck a dick faggot

[quickieshoup]

Was this the "O.J. Simpson" game?

[Emanuelknicks]

@quickieshoup, yes it is.

[platolol]

@quickieshoup

Yup! I was here :)

[MrSuperbird13]

@quickieshoup why isit called the oj simpson game?

[quickieshoup]

@MrSuperbird13 Because O.J. Simpson, who was supposed to turn himself in that afternoon, was running from the cops in his Ford White Bronco. The police chase was going on at the exact same time as the Finals and NBC was covering both events at the same time. Lots of people thought there was going to be a shoot out or OJ would kill himself. It was more dramatic than the game was!

[tbone24100]

@quickieshoup didn't they do a split screen when it happened???

[johnnyfive222]

@quickieshoup

true i remember the situation being more dramatic then the game. I think that it's the media's fault though making it out to be more dramatic then it was just to get ratings. That's media for you.

[ShinAkuma21]

damm the hand checking is nut

[Tray187Jerzey]

@ShinAkuma21 i luv it

[tbone24100]

The o.j chase was on that same night!

[HoustonRocket101]

For all you knick cry baby;s out there im gonna post the whole game 7:

Enjoy knick Bitches:

[Emanuelknicks]

@HoustonRocket101, take it and shove it

[sarge11375]

@Emanuelknicks I live in New York...You live in Texas...therefore I win everytime

[sarge11375]

@HoustonRocket101 I live in New York...You live in Texas...therefore I win everytime

[grouseydaryl]

Geeze will you guys stop crying.

[Owunthrizzel]

Also, the rockets wouldnt have to stop jordan, they just have to stop everyone else which is what they did when they played each other. Pippen and grant had bad games against them while the rockets' otis thorpe and kenny smith always played well against them. grant was outclassed by thorpe and dream. Pippen didnt do much. only jordan did well and no matter how good he is alone, hes not beating an entire team.

[KWCline91]

Obviously this was one of the top 10 best NBA Finals Ever! No games over 100. Two great centers! A great comeback in games 6 and 7! The team that had heart won it all! But both teams fought hard!

[nickgators]

hey oj

[Esco3481]

Back then players played Defense now is a very offensive. The game was designed to be played at both ends of the court. Since the handcheck rule came in it messed up the game .

[azbaldy5]

FIFTEEN YEARS AGO TONIGHT the KNICKS had the nba title in the palm of their hands they won a tough game 5.BUT WERE OVERSHADOWED BY KILLER OJ ! oj sucks and so do the rockets !!!

[etherodromos]

Hey Emanuel, is this the full game or is it the OJ Simpson-short version?

[foghorn125]

thanks so much for these ups man, I've been able to watch so many Knick games from the Ewing era thanks to you!

[phycho187]

new york had a week line up!!!

[tubervidfreak]

The amazing thing about the 1994 NBA Finals was that in none of the games did either team score 100+ points, so the pace was heavily in favor of the Knicks. Yet the Rockets still won.

[foghorn125]

:(

I'm a huge Knick fan, but I have to admit, Hakeem had a hell of a year.

[liweiwu007]

starks was fouled at that 3 point attempt.

[youtub369]

listen i loved both teams back then it was the greatest final i have seen since 2008 (i'm a celtics fan) but the reason why both teams were there, and the rockets won was because MJ retired

[Owunthrizzel]

please do not give MJ more credit than he deserves. hakeem would have humiliated anyone the bulls put on him. the rockets and bulls back then were like the orlando magic and the cleveland cavs are right now. the cavs/bulls always had a better record but the rockets/magic always gave them trouble. if hakeem had a real #2 scoring option during the majority of his career like MJ, history would have looked very different. if pippen was in houston his whole career, MJ would only have 1 or 2 rings.

[milankiev7]

it must be a coincidence the bulls won from 96-98 when MJ actually had time to prepare for the season instead of coming back mid-season. talk about how the rockets gave the bulls trouble all you want, those games were in the reg. season. if hakeem... blah blah. look what happened when he had barkley and drexler at the same time. couldnt even beat a jazz team that didnt have a real #2 scoring option

[Owunthrizzel]

So youre telling me that trends just disappear in the postseason? get outta here. Most trends continue in the postseason. Barkley was on his last legs when he got to houston and drexler was in his 13th or 14th season at that point. Some trends get broken but the majority of them continue throughout the season and playoffs. Ex: A poor rebounding team in the regular season usually continues to have poor rebounding in the playoffs.

[milankiev7]

great explanation, really. i mean at point in time drexler and barkley even hakeem were senior citizens compared to MJ and pippen. the rockets were also huge threats in the playoffs from 91-93. yeah ok.

with your logic i guess the magic shouldve beaten the lakers then. the past few seasons, it has been a regular season trend that the magic beat LA. really though, you made great points

[Owunthrizzel]

In my comment I said, "Some trends get broken but the majority of them continue..." The magic beating the Lakers would be one of the exceptions I was talking about. The magic, who beat the cavs year after year is a much larger trend than the lakers losing twice to orlando in one season also. Plus, 3 out of 5 of the nba finals games could have gone either way. Games 1 & 5 were the only two that orlando had no shot in. And they should have won 2 and 4 with late free thows & alleyoop layups.

[milankiev7]

"some trends" is what weakens your argument. that and the rockets being complete non-threats in the playoffs before and after their titles

[Owunthrizzel]

When I say some trends, I am saying that nothing is absolute. But the vast majority of trends stay the same. The 06/07 mavs lost 3 out of 4 or 4 out of 4 to the warriors that year then they got put out by golden state. And I never said it was a forgone conclusion that the bulls would lose to houston, i am saying that it is not a forgone conclusion that the bulls would have beaten the rockets. Every team has to make moves. Sometimes they help and sometiemes they dont.

[milankiev7]

it's not a foregone conclusion the bulls would've beaten the rockets but it's pretty close. the 94 bulls would've pushed the rockets hard, the weakest title winning team that i can think of

[Owunthrizzel]

And exactly who on any of the bulls teams would guard hakeem? grant, cartwright, purdue, rodman? If the best low post defenders couldnt stop him, what makes u think the bulls could. Grant obviously wouldnt stop him. He had his opportunity in the 95 finals and we saw how that went. And you dont even know if the bulls would push the rockets pretty hard because they never played in a series. Its just fan biased subjective reasoning and is less valid because ur emotions make u slightly irrational

[milankiev7]

haha who would stop MJ? hakeem was great for 2 years in the playoffs, MJ was at a different level for several. explain that irrational thinking. you're saying i dont know what would happen so dont talk as if you know the bulls great team defense wouldnt stop hakeem. talk about emotions about being irrational huh. you're doing the same thing i'm doing but you dont realize it. hypocrisy at its finest. btw i said the 94 bulls

[Owunthrizzel]

in the 95 finals, houston played orlando. ho grant was on orlando. I dont know who would stop MJ and i never claimed that anyone on houston could stop MJ. No one was able to stop him his entire career, but hes not the only player with that label. For Hakeem, I have reason to believe that the bulls would have problems guarding hakeem because the top low post defenders in the league had trouble against hakeem and the bulls had trouble against the rockets while hakeem was there.

[Owunthrizzel]

You are talking about what i didnt say as opposed to what I did say and trying to make an argument about what I didnt say which is a little silly. You made it sound like i said that someone on houston could guard MJ which i never said. I was talking about hakeem not MJ. I have no emotional investment in the rockets, but im not just gonna hand over 2 championships to the bulls w/o them playing houston for them. Also i think u meant the 93 bulls. 94 was rockets/knicks

[milankiev7]

no, i brought up nobody stopping MJ as a response to you saying who could hakeem but you took it differently. my point being, MJ was by far more accomplished than the dream when it mattered most.

i meant 94 bulls would push rockets hard.

i wouldnt hand over those 2 titles to the bulls either. i'm saying from what we saw from 91-93 plus the addition of kukoc, hard to believe the bulls losing to those rockets the following 2 years

[Owunthrizzel]

There is more evidence pointing in houstons favor. the 91-93 bulls were 1-5 against houston. Before u go to the "not in the playoffs" rant, the rockets played their hardest when they had their backs against the wall in 94&95. They constantly overcame playoff series deficits. Example: being down 1-3 to phoenix in 94. The bulls werent the champs in 94, so how can u call them a championship team? 94 bulls didnt get passed NY.

[milankiev7]

yes and orlando has been 3-1 vs LA past 2 seasons. i didnt call the 94 bulls champs, i meant that team w/o MJ wouldve pushed rockets hard. deficets...yeah yeah the bulls dont let leads go. i'm done. 6-2 lets leave it at that. rockets were non-factors before and after their 2 titles

[Owunthrizzel]

Orlando has always been inconsistent and they showed that in the playoffs in every series except the cleveland series. The 94 team wouldnt have stood a chance b/c the only guy on the bulls that gave houston trouble was jordan and he wasnt there. U are drinkin way too much of MJ's koolaid to think that w/o him, the bulls would beat houston when they could even beat nyc which houston beat. Houston's inside presence would constantly outdo the bulls inside and its hard to win w/o rbs.

[riotusa1]

@milankiev7 Remember, the Rockets had the cryptonite to MJ's Superman in Vernan Maxwell. Mad Max rutinely shut MJ down and the Rockets won 5 of 6 vs the Bulls from 91-93

[GrooTheWanderer80]

@riotusa1

regular season means NOTHING. I dont' care if the Rockets won 25 straight in the regular season against the Bulls. Once MJ got to the playoffs, it became a TOTALLY different ball game. I'm a Knicks fan, trust me, I know what it's like to be on the receiving end of his wrath.

although I will concede that a Rockets/Bulls Final would have been VERY interesteing. Mike never face a Finals opponent that had a dominant Center. I'm sure he would have won anyways, but still.

[getyoasshome]

what?? shut mj down?? 1990-1991 Mj scorches his ass for 32 in the first game and 34 in the second game...1991-92 Mj has 35 in the first game and 22 in the second in 1992-93 he has 26 and 11 rebs...in the second game he has 26...he averaged 31 in 1990-91, 30 in 1991-92, and 32 in 1992-93 LOL!!!!! verne kept mike under his avg?? that aint saying much he got his ass torched in every game for 20+ pts.

[riotusa1]

@getyoasshome Jordan would always get his points. Holding him under 35 is pretty much shutting him down with all the shots he would take. my point is he didn't go for 40 + and we always won

[getyoasshome]

if you can get joy out of that then go ahead but mike torched vernon maxwell early and often...you guys always won? ok well make sure to thank mike for retiring in 94-95 so you could get those 2 rings because if he plays you dont have any jewelry. good way to pick 2 specific seasons that the rockets beat the bulls LOL!!! what about 96' and 98'????

[riotusa1]

@getyoasshome Between 96 and 98 the Rockets had many injury problems and most often caught the bulls without Drexler and a few other key inredients. The only time in that span that we were even close to full strength for a game with the Bulls was a home game in 97 in which we won by about 15 points even without Barkley, Had we played the Bulls in the finals in 94,95 and 97 I think we would have won at least one, maybe two but unfortunately it never came to be. Would've been interesting.

[getyoasshome]

its not like the clyde never seen mike in the finals...he had his chance and barkley had his chance...they both came up short...the rockets teams from the 90s were great but the bulls with mike, scottie and rodman were unstoppabull in the late 90s nobody would beat that assembly of talent. the rockets had no business being down 3-2 to the knicks.

[riotusa1]

@getyoasshome I agree with your last comment, the Rockets were indeed far more talented, They handled the Knicks quite well between 92,93,94 seasons, but with the addition of Derrick Harper, it created a matchup problem that the Knicks could finally exploit. The Rockets did not have to face Harper in a Knicks uniform until the finals. It took them a while to adjust, but did just in time. But no team is unstoppable in the NBA. Any given night anyone can be beaten

[getyoasshome]

that rockets team was put together really well...the knicks just got away with alot of junk on the court thats all. harper was an assassin but he didnt have enough they depended on their down low presence a little too much and not enough guard play.

[Owunthrizzel]

I cant discredit the rockets that much and just hand over titles to MJ. I would have had to see them play each other. As far as I know. the rockets were one of the few teams that the bulls didnt match up well with, so I cant hand over 2 more rings to MJ.

[LuigiLaker]

also, Paul Porter from the Orlando Magic..

[LuigiLaker]

Mike Walczewski was one of the all-time great PA announcers back in the day..Tanter, himself, and Ray Clay are three of my all-time faves..

[jaboo82681]

does Walczewski still do PA for the Knicks

[LuigiLaker]

I don't think so...it's someone else now..it's sad..one day all the P.A. annoucners from the NBA's glory years will be gone..=(

[jaboo82681]

i thought he was but i was watching a Knicks game recently and it didn't sound like him, I know about all the classic PA's gone. Ray Clay, Mike W, the guy who did the Boston Celtics for many years at the Garden, Kevin Kalley from the Pistons only one left is Lawerence Tanter from the Lakers

[jaboo82681]

oh and the guy who does the San Antonio Spurs

[LuigiLaker]

Andy Jick was the Celtics PA announcer for all those Boston Garden years, and Stan Kelly was the Spurs PA announcer from 1990 until he was fired during this season...you're right..it seems Tanter is the only one left..Lord only knows how much longer he'll go..he's been doing it since 1983..

[jaboo82681]

I'm watching the Lakers and Spurs now and I hear Kelly's voice over the PA

[gomets83]

he still does

[delishadish]

GO NY GO NY GO!

[HoustonRocket101]

Why does everyone say that was a phantom foul pippen obviously slapped hubert davis.

[Rucks90]

technology lol

[theotheranswer]

starks is 6-5, yeah right

[HuskerFanatic]

Back when the NBA WAS A MAN'S LEAGUE. GO ROCKETS

[LuigiLaker]

Ty very much for this..can't hardly even wait for the Bull/Knicks '94 Playoffs Game 5 The Phantom Foul..

[jaboo82681]

yes the "phatom" Hoe Hollins call

[rockythecat99]

Can you post game 6 too? So close yet so far away.

[theotheranswer]

yeah i would really like to see game 6 too

[jaboo82681]

My thing is how did u get this game, because stupid OJ messed it up for me?

[HRE]

Looks like they showed it on NBA TV as part of "Finals Week".

[THEGREATMIAH777]

the games are on dvd now

[paulp1021]

Thanks for posting this game up. Like most Americans across the country, I couldn't watch this game 5 live as it happened. Because NBC was busy covering the OJ Simpson Bronco chase.