@PtzlLogic Yeah, maybe Sub rogues, Combat rogues are useless in PvP and are beaten by Assassin rogues in PvE, which makes them almost useless in about everything BUT questing..
@Krimghor Ohh ok thanks, I don't really know what your talking about but the Firelands part. Suprisingly, Ret pally's recieved the lowest DPS, so they are now buffing them..
if you want to learn here start out with garrote then use slice and dice right away
next get 5 combo points and use rupture then get 5 more with at least 4 stacks of deadly poison and use envenom and repeat use the glyphs slice and dice killing spree and sinister strike and dont forget about blade fury glyph put instant poison in main have and deadly poison in off hand and you will do at least 15k dps and 27 at most but remember what i said only use this as a combat rogue
@Autokillz1 You surely have never done 27k dps, using envenom as combat rogue is a dps loss, using killing spree glyph is a dps loss, using rupture isnt necessarly a dps boost.
@lewes003 Don't listen to em i played assassination an it is BORING. In the end you really get nothing good out of it. Its a very simple spec. Constant stun locking is just.......no.
Ok with gear u have on u can do double what your currently doing in combat spec. heres quick run down. With 3 points in lethality u need to reforge 1128 points into Hit and expertise needs to be 27/27 or 781.. all the rest should be in crit. On single targets rupture is a must. Rotation: Open with SS to 3 CP SnD SS to 4 CP 1 RS rupture SS to 4 CP 1 RS Evi Then all u do is keep up SnD and rupture but don't re-apply rupture until its fallen off. Never let SnD fall off.
Also just watching your test run, u have to really focus on not letting your energy cap.. use killing spree when energy is at zero.. U have to remember that combat rogues are about pure melee, not their finishing moves like evi. also SnD glyph is useless as u can keep SnD up very easy without it in above rotation. I use to be assassination pumping out 12k @ 340ILvl until i saw a combat rogue less geared pumping out a tad over 12k. Im now doing 14k+
Good video and very help full, but sorry to say man my level 80 combat rouge can hit way harder, and i completely got rid of sinister strike, revealing strike seems to be more effective. Also for killingspree can work with fan of knives, its great for an AOE
Hey i was wondering who video recording device you are using? Also, do you have to pay for it? Also your videos look very nice because of the HD. Do you upload it already in HD or does YouTube make it HD when uploaded? Thanks for the help =D!
hmm is Main Gauche really that bad ? if you consider the Combat Potency Talent ?, i mean if you have high enough mastery you should be gaining energy pretty much, but i do not own a 85 rogue and can't test this out, although it feels like you could spam out more ability's if my theory works. and there fore boost other abilitys instead of hoping for much dps from Main Gauche. would be cool if you could check it out.
Aldriana told me specifically that rupture has a 1% benefit over Evis only. I know, this isn't a big deal, but you make it sound like it's totally worthless and just not worth it at all. That is just not true. Also, do not forget you are attacking a dummy with no armor. Rupture negates all armor, Evis negates none (sunder removes before the actuality of the ability). Glyph of SnD is also awful for Combat, because Combat's SnD duration is so long, it's a complete waste of a glyph to use it.
@Vyrzek Uh, I went with RvS not SnD...watch more closely. What do you mean a dummy with no armor? I assure you the dummy does have armor. Try attacking a dummy with a warrior, then using Colossus Smash. You'll see a huge difference in damage.
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft That would be because it subtracts it like sunder does. It's like you're hitting something with minus whatever percentage of armor it is.
@111julieann89 I hope to god you are kidding me. That's why you don't get glyph of RvS... do you even know what Elitist Jerks is? RvS is only used on 4 CP... an extra combo point from Sinister Strike is ridiculous. Why would I not use killing spree every single CD? Oh boy, a wasted couple seconds of energy regen. I know what the rotation is, I've been playing combat for a long time. I also never said you pool energy. Don't try to lecture me on something you clearly know nothing about.
Alright, quite a few things to point out. 1. Main Gauche isn't that awful, the only reason it's something like ~2% of your DPS is because you use a dagger (as you should) and an extra swing every five sinister strikes or main-hand strikes equates to not much damage. However, deadly poison can be applied and Combat Potency can also proc from this. It is not the worst mastery in the game, however, it needs a buff. Second, rupture is not bad, at all.
First off you should be using Instant Poison, it is infinitely better. Revealing Strike is a horrible move, why would you use revealing instead of Eviscerating at 4 cp, and using the energy for more Sinister Strikes, which do more damage than what Revealing Strike adds to your finisher, and can proc two CP. You should be opening with Killing Spree, not some horrid 3k Ambush or Garrote. The whole point of this is to maximize the amount of times you can use it in a battle.
@Deadset67t And incase you don't understand. You Evicerate at 4cp, so you your next Sinister Strike doesn't proc and waste a CP. Since you can obviously only have 5 CP
They really need to take players health down 97k hp for any rogue/ caster or any of that sort is just retarted lol. Tanks health shouldnt even be close to that.
do u think cataclysm is goin to be better ( or unless it came out) idk i stopped playing WoW but i am thinkin about playing it again because cataclysm looks so awesome
i hope blizz is watching this, DO SOMTHING ABOUT THAT MASTERY ITS NOT GOOD AT ALL, take it out make it 70% chance its stupid as shit and it aint helpin
@Vehshya Rogue is geared completely at pvp and is also fairly easy to play. If you were wanting to get to high level pvp fast, I would take a pally or warrior and level as prot tanking in dungeon finder to get instances super fast. Pallys in general are solid for pvp with great survivability and arms warriors are also quite beastly. Rogue is also very strong in pvp being able to tear apart clothies and other lone chars very quickly.
@Vleesball Assassination is looking fantastic. I'll release the assassination followup as soon as its finished (taking a break atm). For now, check out the elemental shaman dps rundown, where an assassination rogue does 19k in a heroic.
I have been contemplating Rogue DPS recent;y, These have really helped with the rotation's and choices in General. Thanks for all the DPS class video's also! Let's keep this going!
PLZ MAKE AN UPDATE FOR ALL OF THEM! ;DDD
robwowtgn 2 weeks ago
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LegendBaal 1 month ago
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which spec is best for pve combat or Assasination? please answer :)
PDSzONEia 4 months ago
yea this could use an update, lol, mastery is DEFINATLEY not the worst in the game...in fact it falls in second for secondaries after haste...lol
luke06holt 4 months ago
To conclude, Combat rogues still suck..
G0DZ0FC0D 6 months ago
dude omg this was a waste of time all you did was diss rogues when they are the top at pvp
PtzlLogic 7 months ago
@PtzlLogic Yeah, maybe Sub rogues, Combat rogues are useless in PvP and are beaten by Assassin rogues in PvE, which makes them almost useless in about everything BUT questing..
G0DZ0FC0D 6 months ago
@G0DZ0FC0D Heroic majordomo, combat vs assassination, combat wins.
Same for heroic ryolith.
BF is OP. I play both specs, combat is the clear winner for firelands.
Krimghor 5 months ago
@Krimghor Ohh ok thanks, I don't really know what your talking about but the Firelands part. Suprisingly, Ret pally's recieved the lowest DPS, so they are now buffing them..
G0DZ0FC0D 5 months ago
@Krimghor those are both firelands bosses in which combat beats assassination by a very wide margin.
Blade flurry is a very strong ability when glyphed, combat rogues can do absurd amounts of damage if toggled properly.
Yeah rets are terrible right now.
Krimghor 5 months ago
if you want to learn here start out with garrote then use slice and dice right away
next get 5 combo points and use rupture then get 5 more with at least 4 stacks of deadly poison and use envenom and repeat use the glyphs slice and dice killing spree and sinister strike and dont forget about blade fury glyph put instant poison in main have and deadly poison in off hand and you will do at least 15k dps and 27 at most but remember what i said only use this as a combat rogue
Autokillz1 7 months ago
@Autokillz1 You surely have never done 27k dps, using envenom as combat rogue is a dps loss, using killing spree glyph is a dps loss, using rupture isnt necessarly a dps boost.
MercutioEllings 6 months ago
Nice vid, tanx man!
CDresden13 7 months ago
wow my dps was better in 70
aalkaline 8 months ago
Belfs are gay and i hate your rotation
thejbomb53 8 months ago
What weapons are u using?
monsterace6 8 months ago
what add-on shows the cool-downs of your killinspree and adreneline rush?? that is awesome!!
eatyours0ul 8 months ago
@footballar09
Go to interface, then action bars, bottom left and bottom right action bars :)
RasCLeAbascal 8 months ago
Hey!
Im playing 2.
I dont play combat, and i only use sublety and i dont use assasination.
but all my friend tell me to use in 85 assasination.
Im playing pvp.
lewes003 8 months ago
@lewes003 Don't listen to em i played assassination an it is BORING. In the end you really get nothing good out of it. Its a very simple spec. Constant stun locking is just.......no.
Evision5 8 months ago
@Evision5 okey, so your answer is sublety i hope?
lewes003 8 months ago
@lewes003 hmmmm, a sub spec? Great for pvp survivability not so great for normal play. Yes i still play combat spec...........
Evision5 8 months ago
can someone please tell me how you get another skill bar?
Footballar09 8 months ago
MrRogueDPS 8 months ago
@MrRogueDPS
Also just watching your test run, u have to really focus on not letting your energy cap.. use killing spree when energy is at zero.. U have to remember that combat rogues are about pure melee, not their finishing moves like evi. also SnD glyph is useless as u can keep SnD up very easy without it in above rotation. I use to be assassination pumping out 12k @ 340ILvl until i saw a combat rogue less geared pumping out a tad over 12k. Im now doing 14k+
MrRogueDPS 8 months ago
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MrRogueDPS 8 months ago
@nmbgfdsa the good old wow when combat couldn't ambush and questing sucked all the way through?
chibiraptor 9 months ago
y doesnt anybody play combat nowadays? its only sub and assasin
CookieBoogy 9 months ago
Good video and very help full, but sorry to say man my level 80 combat rouge can hit way harder, and i completely got rid of sinister strike, revealing strike seems to be more effective. Also for killingspree can work with fan of knives, its great for an AOE
VelvetFoxxZero 9 months ago
Why isnt swords best? Saw ppl talking about it was better. And what is the addon called thay shows spellduration? :)
applepiewithdad 9 months ago
fuckin blizz better unbreak combat rogues @#$%^!!!
Letalone 9 months ago
you can ambush now with any weapon.... what happened to the good old wow ... :(
mnbgfdsa 9 months ago
combat rogues RAPE HALFUS
TheXenogias 10 months ago
Hey i was wondering who video recording device you are using? Also, do you have to pay for it? Also your videos look very nice because of the HD. Do you upload it already in HD or does YouTube make it HD when uploaded? Thanks for the help =D!
yortin 10 months ago
Hi, I´m new at wow and I don`t know what weapons i should use in the MH and in the OH, What do you recomend?
elquimicofarmacobiol 11 months ago
@elquimicofarmacobiol for a cobat rogue one handed weapons r the best i personally love daggers and maces
shreaderdude69 11 months ago
@elquimicofarmacobiol
2.60 mh / 1.40 oh
OMGITSAFXNBREAKDOWN 11 months ago
Owen Wilson plays WoW, wicked
TheRedNations 1 year ago
What add on is he using for the keyboard skills/ things
stran26 1 year ago
So after watching all three spec, which one is best overall, give reasons why.
goatt7 1 year ago
My level 82 assassination rogue does more dummy dps than this ilvl 333 85 combat rogue. Not really a decision when it comes to pve specs.
MrC00ps 1 year ago
LOL...u mean ur rogue sucks bad.......dont down all rogues....im all blue and pull 12+ dps......(Djapplekiler)
XshawngordyX 1 year ago
I was doing that much dps on my rogue pre-cata.....
elojinkye 1 year ago
Fuck i just made 1 xp
MrJustinlord 1 year ago
@MrJustinlord 6 months old, but i suggest you go back to it. A LOT of these vids are exactly*cough* accurate*cough*
Evision5 7 months ago
hmm is Main Gauche really that bad ? if you consider the Combat Potency Talent ?, i mean if you have high enough mastery you should be gaining energy pretty much, but i do not own a 85 rogue and can't test this out, although it feels like you could spam out more ability's if my theory works. and there fore boost other abilitys instead of hoping for much dps from Main Gauche. would be cool if you could check it out.
Tardenz 1 year ago
dude...to me u sound like the actor Owen Wilson
johnystop 1 year ago 25
@johnystop
Imagine Owen Wilson plays World of Warcraft lol
xVolken 8 months ago
thought i would put this out there, i found thes very helpful one little tip is if you would say what you assassination video is called
ryanhickey1 1 year ago
<3 combat and <3 sub for pvp
Rogueinarea 1 year ago
why not instant poison?
jakelino88 1 year ago
Aldriana told me specifically that rupture has a 1% benefit over Evis only. I know, this isn't a big deal, but you make it sound like it's totally worthless and just not worth it at all. That is just not true. Also, do not forget you are attacking a dummy with no armor. Rupture negates all armor, Evis negates none (sunder removes before the actuality of the ability). Glyph of SnD is also awful for Combat, because Combat's SnD duration is so long, it's a complete waste of a glyph to use it.
Vyrzek 1 year ago
@Vyrzek Uh, I went with RvS not SnD...watch more closely. What do you mean a dummy with no armor? I assure you the dummy does have armor. Try attacking a dummy with a warrior, then using Colossus Smash. You'll see a huge difference in damage.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago 5
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft That would be because it subtracts it like sunder does. It's like you're hitting something with minus whatever percentage of armor it is.
Vyrzek 1 year ago
@Vyrzek
glyphs: revealing, rupture, adrenaline rush
with the haste regeneration and just combat energy regen now combat energy pooling is essentially useless.
The rotation now is just keeping rupture up, slice and dice up, and eviscerating.
Never K spree if you can sinister strike, waste of an energy regen.
glyph of sinister strike is bad Because:
If you want to get a revealing strike in every time the glyph can fuck it up seeing as how having 5 points and revealing striking is a dps loss.
111julieann89 1 year ago
@111julieann89 I hope to god you are kidding me. That's why you don't get glyph of RvS... do you even know what Elitist Jerks is? RvS is only used on 4 CP... an extra combo point from Sinister Strike is ridiculous. Why would I not use killing spree every single CD? Oh boy, a wasted couple seconds of energy regen. I know what the rotation is, I've been playing combat for a long time. I also never said you pool energy. Don't try to lecture me on something you clearly know nothing about.
Vyrzek 1 year ago 2
Alright, quite a few things to point out. 1. Main Gauche isn't that awful, the only reason it's something like ~2% of your DPS is because you use a dagger (as you should) and an extra swing every five sinister strikes or main-hand strikes equates to not much damage. However, deadly poison can be applied and Combat Potency can also proc from this. It is not the worst mastery in the game, however, it needs a buff. Second, rupture is not bad, at all.
Vyrzek 1 year ago
does he have 97k hp or are my eyes just retarded?
youngmoney84 1 year ago
First off you should be using Instant Poison, it is infinitely better. Revealing Strike is a horrible move, why would you use revealing instead of Eviscerating at 4 cp, and using the energy for more Sinister Strikes, which do more damage than what Revealing Strike adds to your finisher, and can proc two CP. You should be opening with Killing Spree, not some horrid 3k Ambush or Garrote. The whole point of this is to maximize the amount of times you can use it in a battle.
Deadset67t 1 year ago
@Deadset67t And incase you don't understand. You Evicerate at 4cp, so you your next Sinister Strike doesn't proc and waste a CP. Since you can obviously only have 5 CP
Deadset67t 1 year ago
great now i have to go change my combat rouge to assasination xP
nerokora436 1 year ago
its pernounced main goo chey :)
Gamingod88 1 year ago
They really need to take players health down 97k hp for any rogue/ caster or any of that sort is just retarted lol. Tanks health shouldnt even be close to that.
MREmiller23 1 year ago
do u think cataclysm is goin to be better ( or unless it came out) idk i stopped playing WoW but i am thinkin about playing it again because cataclysm looks so awesome
KoncealedEcho 1 year ago
"...Absolute crap, just absoulte CRAP. So absolute crap times about 1.5 is still absolute crap" LOL
xRezeilex 1 year ago
*sigh* Nerdrage.
adamhunter1223 1 year ago
@adamhunter1223 then why you lookin up these things 13itch
nkennedy66 1 year ago
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wow is not good for people
xXJohnneyXx 1 year ago
I'm actually very glad I'm not in the beta. When Cataclysm launches u almost know everything already.
Michaelmop 1 year ago
97 k hp wtf?!
blockthisuser 1 year ago
how do you get the bar above the main combat bar im kind of a noob so idk what to do???
LukeDawg1234 1 year ago
My combat rogue does 1.2k more dps, what lvl are you?
eatfreshsub 1 year ago
@eatfreshsub He's self-buffed and not even hit capped.
pmulav 1 year ago
@pmulav Yea, I'm talking about straight up dummy damage, I pull 8k deeps in full t10 at least. Him being under hit makes sense.
eatfreshsub 1 year ago
i hope blizz is watching this, DO SOMTHING ABOUT THAT MASTERY ITS NOT GOOD AT ALL, take it out make it 70% chance its stupid as shit and it aint helpin
Flippyy1 1 year ago
What class would you recommend playing when Cata is released? With a focus on PvP.
Vehshya 1 year ago
@Vehshya Rogue is geared completely at pvp and is also fairly easy to play. If you were wanting to get to high level pvp fast, I would take a pally or warrior and level as prot tanking in dungeon finder to get instances super fast. Pallys in general are solid for pvp with great survivability and arms warriors are also quite beastly. Rogue is also very strong in pvp being able to tear apart clothies and other lone chars very quickly.
Dusknz 1 year ago
omg, u even got this one wrong! look at your CPs and when u use RS->Evis..wow is hard mkey...
buddafi 1 year ago
was that wound poison? -.-
Thoraxe555 1 year ago
omg
Carlos2400 1 year ago
djeez rogue really is total ass atm :s
Vleesball 1 year ago
@Vleesball Assassination is looking fantastic. I'll release the assassination followup as soon as its finished (taking a break atm). For now, check out the elemental shaman dps rundown, where an assassination rogue does 19k in a heroic.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago
atm i'm disappointed with my rogue.
mikejclark 1 year ago
@mikejclark *especially in pvp
mikejclark 1 year ago
I have been contemplating Rogue DPS recent;y, These have really helped with the rotation's and choices in General. Thanks for all the DPS class video's also! Let's keep this going!
Authencator 1 year ago
@Authencator Also, First! Well ... Second ¬.¬ People do it so I want to join in on the fun :(
Authencator 1 year ago