CrossTalk: Traces of Velvet Revolutions

[suvorov4]

Notice how Cohen got all nervous as soon as Bilderberg Group was mentioned.

[barisurum]

The way peter says "yelena hanga!" at the end of every intro with an unnecessary stress on it makes me LOL :)

[SEFARAD2K4]

The Jew "Cohen" needs to stfu. It figures he likes capitalism and $. Socialism in Eastern Europe was the best system ever, today it still strikes fear in these degenerates!

[Sloby89]

democracy = the people rule , but Germans understand that West were bowing down to western stooges, and East were bowing down to eastern stooges. So what was the real difference between East and West they were basically answering to someone. So it was the same shit but different asshole. Remember France and UK were against German reunification!

[dietermaas]

Yes, and it isn't only that, to me the word "democracy", what it really means, is reading, listening to the real needs of the human being. "National interests" is not the human being, & also "western democracy" isn't, that is like a brand, a specific strategy, an ideology, coming from the anglo-american "cartel", but what really counts, is how the human heart, the real needs of everybody is being heard or not. And it seems to me, that the "western product" isn't selling so well any more.

[dietermaas]

I found this discussion quite inspiring. Why? Well, I don't know, I am trying to get really "beyond" ideology, not in the sense of the "ideological" use of the word ideology, but in the sense of using the word "Inwardly", meaning trying to get beyond my own "head" programming, and seeing on the one hand people, summarized as "the people" e.g. of one country or the world, and what I call "their real needs" and then on the other hand, words, and the "ideas" of elites. helpful with that, thanks!

[takadi]

I watch this show sometimes and the host is a complete dick. The conversation would be much more civil without him

[IAMDOPED]

i agree thats my first impression of him he remembers me of the orwellian newscasts ^^

[flyhead2]

The format of this kind of show is terrible. It reduces potentially thought-provoking or informative debate into vulgar bickering and is to discussion programmes what reality TV is to documentaries. It's down-dumbing and cheap entertainment of the worst order. Enough already!

[xenzuva]

Rationing is not an ideology- it is disaster relief mechanism.

All in all, the world suffered very badly and it is time to recover.

This episode is one of the very best CrossTalk shows. CrossTalk is getting more finessed every time.

[xenzuva]

Many people mistake the policies of the Eastern bloc as being entirely ideologically founded. In fact, the extreme heavy losses incurred by Russia and Europe during WWI and WWII determined many of the centralized policies that kept the people alive on rationed goods and services.

[Tressco]

Wow!

Christoph totally gets it!

Mentioning open questions on 9/11 and the Bilderberg Group - respect!

On the other hand, this sucker Ariel is a perfect NWO puppet, methinks...

[abirdnamedcat]

Like student body governments, western democracies are only virtual governments; deciding only on issues that are of no real importance.

[Tressco]

Exactly!

[Nickalispicalis]

Communist will return.  History is like that.

[Nitrorus]

>Communist will return. History is like that.

Nope. :-) One of reasons - there was no single country with communism. Communism is utopia. One of C. postulates - the society without money as value, society with no monetary system, where everyone could have anything for life (it doesn't mean limos and yachts as things needed for life), giving to society your own work, but with no intellectual and physical overstrain. Now it's impossible, people works as much, as a boss want. Typical Utopia.

[Vidas666]

I like that German man 8-)

[EvilViolencePerson]

I can't go on the Internet for 5 min without hearing about how ZIONIST CONSPIRACY ISRAEL IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL HEIL HITLER.

Funny, I thought people were sensible.

[LibertaerUeberAlles]

Maybe people are looking at the facts more than you would like them to?

[EvilViolencePerson]

One man's fact is another man's fiction.

[VictorSobakus]

@EvilViolencePerson

So who do you believe more: the news agencies and mass media run to a large extent by the jews, or the Internet, "run" by the common folk?

[EvilViolencePerson]

I believe anyone who gives good evidence and even then, I always try to be objective.

[VictorSobakus]

And what good evidence do you have that disproves "ZIONIST CONSPIRACY ISRAEL IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL HEIL HITLER." theories?

[MoscowMaestro]

They threw off Communist madmen, and now they're serving Yankee madmen.

[troglodyte3344]

That Yanela hunger presenter, she never smiles.

[Peadarisback]

The people of the eastren countires where right to overthrow their socialist goverments BUT now their equally screwed under capitalism

[matsutakneatche]

@Peadarisback you mean fascist oligarchy, long live the 'true free market'

[FedorovAvtomat]

@matsutakneatche

No such thing.

[Peadarisback]

what are you saying....? Are you an anarchist...Sense I've come to notice anarchists talk alot about the 'true free market' (are is that anarcho-capitalists)

no the free-market is tolltarion and oppressive and is not free and socialist economics are as well it's time for something different.

[matsutakneatche]

what are you saying? what are you? I suppose im a libertarian. Thats silly to label me an anarchist. I suppose there is some truth in that, but no im not an 'anarchist' per say, certaintly not a socialist. But I do appreciate freedom.

[Peadarisback]

aha....well capitalism isn't freedom it's just freedom for one class like soicalism is just freedom for one class....

[Tressco]

"The choice between capitalism and socialism is not a choice at all. These are two equal brothers with just different caps."

- Hannah Arendt

[Peadarisback]

I completely agree

[LibertaerUeberAlles]

Whether you oppose judeo-socialism or the new judeo-"democracy" with its credit monopoly and ethnically-based, anti-free market crony capitalism, it's all the same: you are an "anarchist."

[vacinestoxic]

I love Russia Today!!

[HayteStreet]

so do I!! :]