@sektaba lool its just as how theyre written. They knew where the verses ended. They just signified this by adding the dots. Doesnt prove that the quran was altered.
Quran has not been changed a single time.. proving that the stories u mentioned were taken off the quran.. the quran didnt take it off some bullshit story.
@sektaba lol I know ur getting this off some hate site. Another christian said the same exact thing. Alexander the great is never mentioned in the Quran lol big fail. So what is a goat ate some pages, many people had memorized the Quran, the goat didnt eat all of em did it?
@criccraze786 Dhul-Qarnayn == alexander the great according to muslims. why would you assume hate sites? i am after the truth. read your quran well, then read history. do research about the nestorians.
@sektaba lol thats what you find on some sites that claim he was alexander the great. He was definently not alexander the great. No islamic scholar with proof will agree that he was alexander the great. I assume hate sites because all of the info and claims you bring forth are similiar to the ones that many others bring out. A claim after another. Bro if your after the truth then let me explain all the claims you have one by one, If you're up for it, then tell me.
Doesn't it say in the bible that Lut commited fornication with his daughters. Now, how in the name of God can a prophet commit fornication let alone with his own daughter. Would you leave your daughter with Lut?
@sektaba would u leave your wife with Lot, a man supposed to be a prophet. He commits incest so I dont think hed think twice about committing fornication with your wife. This is how the Bible tells of him.
its depends on which book is right... who can say the Bible is not corrupted.. Because it is older than quran and Bible has different versions. it is more possible that the Bible may corrupted...
It's the Bible that is corrupted. That is why the Quran was written, to clear things up. In the Bible, Abraham pimped his wife, which was really his sister, Lot committed incest with his own daughters, Noah got drunk and naked after the flood...These are God's prophets..You don't find them doing that in the Quran. You have hundreds of versions of the Bible, revised (why would God's word need revision?), new translations(why?) You owe us an explanation, not the other way around.
@ACelloFella clear things up? LoL the bible shows the prophets as men prone to sin and falling from grace. your quran tells a different story so unbelievable that it says mary the mother of jesus is moses' sister. that haman the persian served under pharoah building the tower of babel, thet alexander the great was muslim etc.
quran is the only arab export arabs can be proud of, but certainly not writtren by God
@sektaba Lol..talk about unbelievable stories...talking snakes, dragons out of the sea, angels with horns in four corners of the sky....By the way, I read and love BOTH books, because they are BOTH by the same author, its just that the Bible was severely tampered with.
@ACelloFella give me proof on the tampering!!! the jews has scribes copying and writng the same exact text, font , characters on their scrolls, yet muslims will say it is corrupted. if you say the bible is corrupted you disrespect all the previous prophets you claim you respect.
@sektaba Have u read the verses that predict the forthcoming of Muhammad? You insult Muhammad (pbuh) without knowing about him. Your only source of study about him comes from Islamophobes who write stuff like Alexander the Great is mentioned in the Quran. I can explain the verse to you in surah maryam that talks about sister of Harun and the other verses that Haman and Pharaoh were at the same time.
@sektaba Muhammed explained this Quranic reference by saying “the (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of apostles and pious persons who had gone before them." [1]
He was the brother of the Prophet Musa (pbuh). Maryam (pbuh) was from the progeny of Haroon (pbuh). Hence she is being referred to him through progeny just like one would say ‘O brother of Hamdaan’ meaning one who belongs to the progeny of Hamdaan.
@criccraze786 later muslims scholars explained that, nmot mohammad quran wasnt compiled when mohammad was still alive. and it memorized or written somewhere bits and pieces. so i wont buy that explanation, plus the fact that in the old age they count male lines not females.
@sektaba It was memorized by many people in its entirety. So even if a goat came and ate pages of it it did not matter as those pages could be replicated from memory.
@sektaba The proof can be found on the first few pages of any Bible. It says "translated OUT of the original tongues, and diligently COMPARED and REVISED". Why does God's word need to be REVISED????...There is no question that man has corrupted it but that is not necissarily a bad thing. There is truth in the Bible that has to be decoded because it is hidden behind metaphors, similes,and symbolism...It is those wicked hands that did this who disrespect the prophets. There is only 1 God of all
@ACelloFella translations corrupted the bible? LoL translationsare always open to criticism by others...and they found a word that doesnt reflect what the msg is they will change it..it is always compared to the early hebrew and greek manuscripts.
about the quran, it was of course corrupted by mohammad, for he himself forgot verses
@sektaba You claim that Muhammad (pbuh) made up the Qur'an, why would he make such a simple error like this ( if you take in the literal sense) out of around 6000 verses.
@sektaba With all due respect, do not play games with me. It is not translations that I am talking about and you know that...It is REVISIONS..WHY, WHAT POSSIBLE REASON WOULD ANYONE REVISE GOD'S WORD?????..that is what is found on the first few pages of most Bibles.
@sfyr your argument is baseless!!! you quran is full of nonsense and abrogations. the bible was written by the earlier prophets on different times. the quran was writen by mohammad, that is why it has abrogations, because only man can change his mind, not God.
to me the quran is where a psychiatrist can see through what goes on inside mohammads mind. and allah is mohammads alter ego, because allah is the only god that changes his mind
@sfyr quran definitely not divine!!! how can you prove allah wrote the quran? tru pen and paper? did someone wrote it down for allah in heaven as he dictates it? if so why does allah need to change his mind from time to time while dictating the quran to someone?
@sektaba another big misconception you have. The Qur'an is meant more of a book of recitation. It was recited before it was written down. So Allah does not need a pen and paper, rather Gabriel recited it to Muhammad and did not hand him a paper with the Qur'an written in it.
@criccraze786 anyone saw mohammad and gabriel talking? you said the bible predicted mohammad and yet you say the bible is corrupted!!!! you talking in circles
@sektaba Well if people saw Muhmmad and Gabriel talking then what test would there be in accepting the truth. The majority would come and accept him as the messenger.
The bible is corrupted but not its in entirety. Pretend the bible is corrupted, would the people who changed the words of God write the forthcoming of Muhammad? Why would they even think about it.
@criccraze786 i dont even see where was the bible corrupted, no proof except what was not in the quran but in the bible is corrupted. i understand mohammad denying the trinity, but where are the corruption in the bible? the book of isiah was discovered among the dead sea scrolls and its the same as what the bible says.why is it the moslems look for mohammad in the bible and then say it is corrupted? looks like after 1400 years of islam there is still insecurity on your part.
@sektaba "So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn." (2:79)
@criccraze786 no one actually says it as word of God but inspired by God and authors were attributed to each book. and its always gonna be many men who whgo scrutinoze those books before it can be accepted as inspired by God. and how can you prove that where the sell verses for a price? did any one payed moses to write genesis and numbers? i really dont understand how muslims came up with that kind of accusations
@sektaba the priests and the scholars of the bible changed em. And how do you know the person is inspired by God, I can claim to be inspired by God and make stuff up.
@criccraze786 believe what you believe in but do not look for mohammad in the bible and then say the bible is corrupted. dont be insecure about your beliefs. dont go looking for scientific miracles in the quran also.
@sektaba We don't look for scientific miracles in the Quran. They appear to us as we read. Wouldn't you be amazed if someone told you something today that was impossible to know at this time and you found that its true 1000 years later. You might consider it lucky but when more than 20,30 of these things occur then it would be foolish of you to consider it lucky.
@criccraze786 yeah yeah yeah that the world was a sphere says the quran LoL but then again some verses will say it as flat as a carpet....it is obviuos the quran has borrowed a lot from other sources, the greeks already postulated that the earth was round and someone even calculated its circumference. mohammad traded with lots of people for his wife's business and that is where he learned and mixed everything up
@sektaba 1) These verses were revealed at different times for different context. The verse in surah tawba ( surah 9) refers to the time the Muslims were in battle to encourage the Muslims to fight back.
@sektaba Muhammad (pbuh) already had men at his side. Some of these men were reluctant on fighting the people who had drove them out of their city. These verses were revealed to encourage them. Even the enemies of Muhammad(pbuh) were convinced that what Muhammad was reciting was not something he made up, they were convinced that it was definently a revelation of God but they denied it out of arrogance.
@criccraze786 revealed when men were about to desserty mohammad in battle! and no one saw gabriel too or even saw mohammad talking to an invicible enitity. maybe its one of the generals who made it up ot mohammad himself to keep the troops by having them fear eternal hellfire if they desert your prophet. that is why i cannot accpet mohammad because revelations comes everytime he personally needs it.
@sektaba What about the verses that were revealed to correct the prophet? Look at how much the prophet suffered in Taif. None of that is recorded in the Qur'an. All it says is that have patience, and dont grieve over what they say.
@criccraze786 mohammad sufering? hahahahaha he always have his allah at his side making up things so mohammad can be justified everytime he needs something. even his wife thinks so when mohammad married the wife of his adopted son
@sektaba Well you're obviously ignorant of these verses, The Prophet frowned and turned away (1) Because there came to him the blind man, [interrupting]. (2) But what would make you perceive, [O Muhammad], that perhaps he might be purified (3) Or be reminded and the remembrance would benefit him? (4) As for he who thinks himself without need, (5) To him you give attention. (6) And not upon you [is any blame] if he will not be purified. (7) Where is Allah(swt) backing him up here?
@criccraze786 allah backs him up everytime dude! havent you noticed? for every time mohammad wants something he gets it as allh always comes up with the revelation.
and regarding your prophet as a person of humility: "Riyadh-us-Saliheeh" The prophet was once said to Umar bin Khattab would you give your daughter to someone better that Abu-Bakr, Uthman and Ali to which Umar replied yes, then the prophet said O Umar give your daughter to me. l
@sektaba Utbah bin Rabiah was a fierce enemy of Islam. He was a pro at mocking and debating with people. The leaders of Quraysh told him to go tell Muhammad to stop calling to the worship of one God. He went and asked Muhammad to stop and in return they will give him with anything he wants, women, power, land etc. Muhammad asked Utbah if he was done and then recited few verses from the Quran. Utbah's heart trembled and told him to stop reciting. He then went to the leaders and said..
@sektaba what this man is calling to is definently the truth and if you don't accept his message, there will be a definite destruction upon you. He then told the leaders to keep him away from Muhammad as these verses from the Quran will affect him. That is only one story, It is up to you to look at Islam from an unbiased view. Theres an answer to every claim you make, it depends on you if you really wanna know the truth or are just mocking Islam for what it preaches.
@criccraze786 i mock mohammad everytime you muslims claim the bible as corrupt. i mock you for your vain attempt to prove you are the truth by degrading other people! all prophets are reluctant prophets but mohammad was an eager prophet, why is that? the old prophets wrote the old book and if mohammad is not in those books it is corrupted according to muslims. the quran has so many interpretations that every muslim can use it for their own personal gain just like mohammad
@criccraze786 if that is the case you better be watching islamic youtube videos saying its OK to kill non muslims and tell them they are wrong instead of being here trying to say quran is the work of god.
@criccraze786 you said it yourself that no muslim should interpret the quran for his own personal gain!!! now look at your brothers using the quran to cannibalize their enemies. to force sharia to all, and use it for war mongering!!! you dont understand what your muslim brothers are doing?
@sektaba What theyre doing is bending Islam for their personal gain, which is completely against Islam and its teachings. If you're gonna judge Islam based on few people who bend its teachings then you're being foolish. Anyways lets get back on the topic, you're trying to seek truth right?
@sektaba 2) Don't understand how you consider them abrogating each other.
3) (Say to the believers to forgive those who hope not for the Days of Allah,) means, let the believers forgive the disbelievers and endure the harm that they direct against them. In the beginning of Islam,
@sektaba 3) Continued... Muslims were ordered to observe patience in the face of the oppression of the idolators and the People of the Scriptures so that their hearts may incline towards Islam. However, when the disbelievers persisted in stubbornness, Allah legislated for the believers to fight in Jihad.
The one Surah 2:217 forbids Muslims from fighting in the sacred month.
@sektaba The majority of the people of the book oppressed them. Najashi provided them a safe haven and upon listening to the verse of the Qur'an about Jesus and Mary his tears soaked up his beard. Btw, we were talking about the two verses you claimed to be contradicting each other, lets get back to them.
@criccraze786 no one oppressed oppressed the early moslems except mohammads own people, actually they just want mohammad to stop attacking their old ways. your claim on the bible corrupted can be traced to the nestorians and other gnostic writings abundant in mohammads time, like jesus performing miracles at an early age, that he didnt died on the cross etc. regarding translations on the bible, it is always open to criticism and improvement.some of those gnosticss embraced islam
@sektaba Most of the pagans attacked him, why because Makkah was built on a tribal system. If he claimed to be the messenger of God, then all the leaders would have to give up their leadership and Muhammad(pbuh) would take control. They were afraid of this so they repelled him and his followers out of Makkah.
@criccraze786 yeah yeah yeah but they never sent someone to kill mohammad!!! unlike mohammad who ordered muslims to kill those people he didnt like, and mind you even an old woman
@sektaba "kill those people he didnt like, and mind you even an old woman"
yep another thing you've got off those hate sites, I thought you were truth seeker. Truth seekers don't accept info just because it suits their agenda rather they investigate teh credibility of the info. I know for sure you haven't done that. If you want, I'll tell you the real story behind Umm Qirfa.
@criccraze786 you have the hadiths that support that story!!! you emulate mohammad following the hadiths and when some evil things mohammad did, its not true suddenly! when can muslkims be true about themselves?
@criccraze786 there will always be stories that justifies mohammad right? that he always fight defensively but greedily takes a big portions of the war booty. hahahahahaha
@sektaba bro he slept on straw mats, If he wanted wealth, women or power he would have accepted it loong ago when the Quraysh offered all of these things to him if he stopped preaching. What kind of truthseeker are you?
@glower125 Correction, those who follow islam have the blind eyss, they deny reality and lie to non-believers (taqiyya). People with intelligence usually see through the koran in short order, especially when they learn about abrogation. Mainly when they learn that the peaceful verses have been abrogated (overruled) by the sword verses.
see the accounts of one person. mark luke john ect . .
then see the same accounts of someone else of the same account and youll find there would be many insetsy ini.. for example one person would say he said this.. anoyther would say compltry something else..
one person would say he said nothign when he was on the cross and die that way. another wouls say he said my father ect ..
Surah 2:219: They ask thee concerning wine and gambling. Say: "In them is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit." They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say: "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth Allah Make clear to you His Signs: In order that ye may consider.
--- before you can see the sand speck in your neighbors eyes, removed the beam from your own eyes so you will see better.
I am learning a lot from you. You make the Muslims uncomfortable, I love it because you expose their lies and they can't gainsay. All they can do is call you a liar, but they have no substance to back with
and by the way, he didnt quote anything from the Quran, and not even the translation except few words!
read the Quran guys and see how does a book which was authored by Allah/God looks like! u will see the difference between human books and God book like day and night!
and never judge anything of the Quran until u read it all or big parts of it
@jackfatal2 "read the Quran guys and see how does a book which was authored by Allah/God looks like! u will see the difference between human books and God book like day and night!"
So what impresses you about the quran?
What is in it that you can say it must be from allah and not man?
Is it written on a substance that is unknown to man?
Is the ink some magical element that can only be from allah?
another comment on his claim that where the stories in the Quran came from and about who wrote them.
as for the stories in the Quran, they r stories not fairy tales, a story is based on true events, and the original gospel and Torah did include those stories, but people corrupted it and u wont see them any more in the current bible!
it amazes me to see some of the true stories still survived and he called their authors as fakers!
then what is the criteria to decide an author is good or bad?
another comment on his claim that where the stories in the Quran came from and about who wrote them.
first the bible authors r unknown at all! i challenge anychristian or jew to produce to me the writers of the manuscripts of the bible? the bible says "according to Mark" or "according to John" etc, so we know for sure Mark John and the others didnt write them! same with the old testament, so then who wrote then on papers and where are those papers?
@sektaba i did. again the dead sea scrolls does not go to the authors original manuscripts text. from old testament to the new testament, everything is written by unknown men and they attribute it to prophets. so basically jews and christians following unkown men religion. so dont be suprised on the Judgment day to see reality very different from what u were told on bible.
oh, it is almost pointless to argue with stupid liar people.
Allah did challenge all man kind to produce just 1 verse like the Quran! and they havent and they tried but failed! so prepare for hell fire which the stones and men are its fuel!
and about this comedian in the video, i would say find me 1 sentence in the Quran which is the same as in the bible or anywhere else!
and i will say to him provide evidence for his claims! i can say what ever i say without reliable references.
You claim that the evidentiary miracle is present and available, namely, the Koran. You say: "Whoever denies it, let him produce a similar one."... By God what you say astonishes us! You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation. Then you say: "Produce something like it"?!
@sirjambo if Quran from man, then surely man can make something like it or similar, so why no one was able to do it? not now not 1000 years ago and not 1432 years ago!
u said it is full of contradictions? bring just one! u will not be able to and u will fail.
as for useful information, well, am living my life on it, and it has solutions for everything and answers for all important things, if u cant see it useful it is because u r disbeliever.
@jackfatal2 "u can bring your own people and judge fairly."
Then it's been done for a very long time. And it's been decided that the quran is not from god since it was man who wrote it. Is allah an illiterate beduin also?
@sirjambo it looks that u dont get me or u do it by purpose. i said Allah challenged mankind to produce something like the Quran if they think it is not from Allah/God. so it means the persons who dont think Quran is from Allah, they should write something like the Quran and claim it that it is like the Quran. and those who wrote it should bring their own witnesses to judge if their writing is like Quran or not.
nothing is like the Quran! and Quran is in Arabic!! not English!
You claim that the evidentiary miracle is present and available, namely, the Koran. You say: "Whoever denies it, let him produce a similar one."... By God what you say astonishes us! You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation. Then you say: "Produce something like it"?!
@sirjambo as for the earth is flat, well, in other translations it says the earth spread our, it means stretched out, and that is a fact, so it says the earth after that is streched out, there is no where where it say the earth is a flat planet, the verse was was talking about God's creation, it says "And after that He spread the earth" spreading earth is not making earth flat!
so nice try! besides, it does look stretched or flat from our perspective. and in arabic it doesnt use flat.
@sirjambo show me where it says the earth is flat? there are more than one tafsir for almost every verse in the Quran. the verse says the earth is stretched which also could mean flattened.
and yes the earth is flat for us! when u walk in a street, do u see the earth circle or flat? and that fact the God said He stretched the earth out/flattened it, it could mean that it is originally not flat or stretched!
what about the sun travel? u got problem with science?
@sirjambo i see u r being stupid with me, what profit? r we talking about business profit? if so, then we r talking in different worlds. fix that with the proper spelling then we may proceed.
@jackfatal2 "i see u r being stupid with me, what profit?"
You must have me confused with your muslim brothers or sisters.
It's easy being stupid when you believe a man who was an oversexed illiterate warlord is somehow the greatest man ever and a messenger of a god.
YOU can call him whatever you want. I chose to call him the profit of islam when I am being politically correct. He is not someone anyone with a working brain can like.
@sirjambo as for the sun, i have no idea where u brought it from, but if u study a little astronomy, u would know the the sun is at a constant movement around it self, and our solar system is also moving very fast.
so again. nice try but not.
if thats the best u got, i can imagine what will be the other contradictions u have!
my advice, read the Quran with different translations, try to understand it, and if u see a contradictions u may ask. and u will know it is the truth if God wills.
@jackfatal2 you are wrong!!!! joseph smith wrote another revelation from God and his followers are the mormons. mormons will say they are christians too but have their own book. quran maybe a book of poetry but certainly not from God
@jackfatal2 yeah man was made from bood clot then in some verses from clay etc. the reason it has contradictions is because it borrowed heavily on supposed christian and jewish writings at that time, even swabians and greeks. how can it include solomon meeting sheba tru a bird? hahahahaha quran even got verses from a childrens story
"the only book which was not changed for more than 1432 years (not even 1 letter have changed)". This is patently a stupid statement, probably based on ignorance and a lack of familiarity with ancient, hand written manuscripts. There are as many versions as there were human scribes.
@becharev "There are as many versions as there were human scribes" which seems nullify the statement "not even 1 letter have changed". This is just more proof of how muslims just make shit up on the fly, too bad they're not smart enough to keep things straight. So are we going to believe someone who's religion teaches lying (taqiyya) to non-believers??
@sfyr Now that's a new one, mohammed did teach lying and deceit and hatred. There's nothing peaceful about the koran, espically when you learn about abrogation. You know where all the peaceful verses are overruled by the sword verses. And taqiyya (lying to non-muslims) is in the koran, 2:225, 3:28, 3:54, 9:3, 16:106, 40:28 and 66:2. And it all deals with deceiving the non-believer.
@TheBardicDruid In the Quran: -"Day" is mentioned 365 times.. -"Days" is mentioned 30 times.. -"Month" is mentioned 12 times.. -"Land" is mentioned 13 times.. "Sea" is mentioned 32 times.. 13 + 32 = 45 13 % 45 = 29% = Percentage of Land on earth.. 32 % 45 = 71% = Percentage of Sea on earth.. And there's a LOT more.. Is it ALL a coincidence??.. don't think so.. Check this out..: quranmiracles-com
@sfyr The fact is someone doesn't see islam the same as you do, and you can't stop trying to convince them your view is right. That's called fanaticism, blind belief and doing what a religious leader says all the time breeds this. It usually happens among weak minded people without much intelligence.
The Koran is a counterfeit book were the characters are all borrowed from the Bible like Abraham, Isa (Jesus), Mary (Jesus mother) and so own. The original Koran is lost in the 7th century and the Koran that they have is the Ottman Koran. So who wrote the Koran?
I ALREADY READ THE QURAN AND MANY OF THE HADITHS AND FOR ME THE QURAN IS A MAN MADE BOOK. IT IS BORING, REPETITIOUS, POOR IN VOCABULARY IN METAPHORES. IT JUMPS FROM ONE SUBJECT TO THE OTHER AND IT IS A MESSAGE OF HATRED, A BOOK OF PROPAGANDA CREATED BY AN IMPOSTOR WHO WANTED POWER, MUHAMMED. MUHAMMED KNEW THAT HE WAS AN IMPOSTOR AND HE USED THE FEAR OF HELL AS A TOOL OF CONTROL BUT HIS UNHOLY LIFE PROVED THAT HE WAS NOT A MAN OF GOD. HE HAD SEX SLAVES, 33:50-52. HE PREACHED WAR, 8:39, 9:29
Jay please write down the title accounts of the crow story because from hearing you I can`t spell these titles. If anyone else can help me please reply.
Please read these books: Misquoting Jesus, Jesus Interrupted, Studies in the Textual Criticism of the New Testament Christianity in Late Antiquity, The Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew, Lost Scriptures: Books that Did Not MakeIt into the New Testament by Bart D. Ehrman, American New Testament scholar. if you are honest spent some time and research. And Also research Quran with open heart and dont follow what media says about islam.
This truly shows the ignorance and deception of the purveyors of darkness. Who chose the books that are called the bible today? King James or the church fathers? Or Constatine another King. The bible can only be confirmed today , but by The Qur'anul Kareem, the Qur'an is Arabic in text complied into a book by the companions of the Prophet Muhammad. The Arabic style in which it written is a miracle unto itself, no human being can come close to writing anything near the style and beauty of it.
i am not a muslim but im guessing you are a muslim
it is wrong to make statements without checking history-the koran says dont accept any information without studying-was constantine a kking who chose the books of the bible? who are the church fathers? name some if you know any
@sadiq53 do you even know Arabic? The Arabic in the Quran isn't really all that hard if you study the style. Personally I think the Syrians have a nicer type of Arabic, it's much more pleasant sounding but hey, that's my OPINION
You're opinion is that the arabic in the book is the greatest, that's fine you can have an opinion, but dont try to present it as fact. That's just stupid.
this stupid chrstian don t know what he talking about...he not know arabic language lol and this is wat stupid christian trying to do ...first of all there is on ly ONE scripture of quaran..u can pick 5 books of quran from 5 different countrie u will see is the same and is in arabic...so if a stupid christian has somthing to say about quran shud know speak arabic or stop acting like a pig
@cheker102 Actually, in sweden we have Qurans that are translated into swedish, sorry to burst your little dictatorship bubble of your ugly Quran. I pee in mohammeds mouth, and I shit in Osamas mouth. What you gonna do about it? You fucking terrorist.
@cheker102 The Inspired Word of God the Bible was written so ALL can read it in their own language. The koran is a man-made book with gnostic writings that were written hundreds of years after the Bible had already been written. Mohammad didn't check his sources very well!! 1 SAVIOUR WHO IS JESUS CHRIST!!! If u want 2 know the real Jesus u need 2 read God's Word. Mohammad is clearly a deceiver + false prophet. ONLY the blind + ignorant follow the obvious lies of the koran...
Sir you are missing a BIG and HUGE important fact about the Quran and that it Says Oh Muhammad we read upon you the best of the stories ... and That the Quran tells us to believe in all the books of God that came ... Those scripts are wonderful that you found and we thank you for making sure that the Quran has incorporated the best of the Stories with sources that u can check and left all the silly stories out in your man made Bible ... I dont understand what are you trying to achive Sir !!!
@habooble The koran DOESN'T have actual stories from the Bible. The koran has gnostic writings that r heretical + distortions of Scripture. The koran denies that Jesus the Son of God died on the cross 4 sinners + denies Jesus is the Son of God. God's Word disagrees with the satanic counterfeit koran. Muslims r blind 2 the obvious: the koran is false like it's false prophet. There is 1 name given whereby we must b saved + He is Jesus Christ who is both Saviour + God in the flesh...
أخواني أخواتي في الاسلام يا حراس العقيده هذا النجس الذي يدعى
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عمله الوحيد هو الاسائه الى الاسلام والمسلمين والى رسولنا الحبيب المصطفى صلى الله عليه وسلم الرجاء مراقبته أنه يتنقل من موقع الى موقع وهدفه فقط الاسائه الى رسول الله عليكم به وعدم السماح له بأفعاله الخسيسه أنه رسولكم الحبيب المصطفى عليه الصلاة والسلام
In Quran Solomon would have never heard of the Queen of Shiiba if it werent for the hooper
Solomon in the Quranic story invites her to Monotheism
Here's the funny part,
Solomon's father in Law was the gentile poletheist King AHiram who gifted him ships which have docked the ports of the Kingdom of Shiiba on their trade cruises
@mites7 your partly right, the was i understand it is before muhammed the pedo rapist got involved and politicized it, it actually was very close to judaism, you know how jews when they gather they seperate them men and women during meetings well the muslims did somthing similar but they ran a sheet down the middle of a room, this is what a was known as HIJAB it wasnt a halloween costume that covered ya head to toe you should listen to the islam for idiots series on here
@ResistIslamToday I'm from the Middle East, I've spoken Arabic my whole life, and recently learned the style within the Quran., so I read the whole thing back to front a few years ago.
yeah I didnt really have some great epiphany, it was just a lot of stuff I'd already heard just presented a different way. Though I think it's interesting the context that the Quran and Hadith give for Mohammed's actions, as many verses are directly related to events
old quran version doesnt have dots!!!! who added dots? allah forgot to put the dots?
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba lool its just as how theyre written. They knew where the verses ended. They just signified this by adding the dots. Doesnt prove that the quran was altered.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 who knew? might not be altered but most like a work of a mere human
sektaba 1 week ago
muslim argument about the bible corrupted again...all i can say is quran was written by mohammad and edited by uthman!!!
it is isaac not ishmael!!!!
mary is not a sister of moses!!!!
pharaoh never met haman of persia!!!
sektaba 1 week ago
bible has been edited many times.. its corrupted.
Quran has not been changed a single time.. proving that the stories u mentioned were taken off the quran.. the quran didnt take it off some bullshit story.
kamaliboii 2 weeks ago
@kamaliboii quran not changed? a freaking goat ate some pages on one of the older codex.
the truth is that the quran is a plagiarized work of mohammad. he got histopry mixed up by relating maryam to moses, haman to pharoah.
quran talks about alexander the great as being muslim...
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba lol I know ur getting this off some hate site. Another christian said the same exact thing. Alexander the great is never mentioned in the Quran lol big fail. So what is a goat ate some pages, many people had memorized the Quran, the goat didnt eat all of em did it?
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 Dhul-Qarnayn == alexander the great according to muslims. why would you assume hate sites? i am after the truth. read your quran well, then read history. do research about the nestorians.
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba lol thats what you find on some sites that claim he was alexander the great. He was definently not alexander the great. No islamic scholar with proof will agree that he was alexander the great. I assume hate sites because all of the info and claims you bring forth are similiar to the ones that many others bring out. A claim after another. Bro if your after the truth then let me explain all the claims you have one by one, If you're up for it, then tell me.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@kamaliboii taken off the quran? hahahahahaha whcih came first? the bible or the quran?
sektaba 1 week ago
Doesn't it say in the bible that Lut commited fornication with his daughters. Now, how in the name of God can a prophet commit fornication let alone with his own daughter. Would you leave your daughter with Lut?
criccraze786 2 weeks ago
@criccraze786 the daughters slept with lot when he was drunk from the wine his daughters gave him
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba would u leave your wife with Lot, a man supposed to be a prophet. He commits incest so I dont think hed think twice about committing fornication with your wife. This is how the Bible tells of him.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 did yo9u read the entire story? Lot was drunk!!!!
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba lol so his daughter who God saved committed fornication with him. Nice story..
criccraze786 1 week ago
the bible has many versions.
the koran has one version.
so shut the fuck up its pretty clear that your bible is corrupted.
RusPrideAK 2 weeks ago
its depends on which book is right... who can say the Bible is not corrupted.. Because it is older than quran and Bible has different versions. it is more possible that the Bible may corrupted...
wildtech 3 weeks ago
It's the Bible that is corrupted. That is why the Quran was written, to clear things up. In the Bible, Abraham pimped his wife, which was really his sister, Lot committed incest with his own daughters, Noah got drunk and naked after the flood...These are God's prophets..You don't find them doing that in the Quran. You have hundreds of versions of the Bible, revised (why would God's word need revision?), new translations(why?) You owe us an explanation, not the other way around.
ACelloFella 4 weeks ago
@ACelloFella clear things up? LoL the bible shows the prophets as men prone to sin and falling from grace. your quran tells a different story so unbelievable that it says mary the mother of jesus is moses' sister. that haman the persian served under pharoah building the tower of babel, thet alexander the great was muslim etc.
quran is the only arab export arabs can be proud of, but certainly not writtren by God
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba Lol..talk about unbelievable stories...talking snakes, dragons out of the sea, angels with horns in four corners of the sky....By the way, I read and love BOTH books, because they are BOTH by the same author, its just that the Bible was severely tampered with.
ACelloFella 1 week ago
@ACelloFella give me proof on the tampering!!! the jews has scribes copying and writng the same exact text, font , characters on their scrolls, yet muslims will say it is corrupted. if you say the bible is corrupted you disrespect all the previous prophets you claim you respect.
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba Have u read the verses that predict the forthcoming of Muhammad? You insult Muhammad (pbuh) without knowing about him. Your only source of study about him comes from Islamophobes who write stuff like Alexander the Great is mentioned in the Quran. I can explain the verse to you in surah maryam that talks about sister of Harun and the other verses that Haman and Pharaoh were at the same time.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 explain maryam? LoL that it means kin or bloodline not really sister of aaron or not really the daughter of imran?
you expect me to believe that explanation? maybe if thats the only case but there so many intertwined not historically correct stories
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba Muhammed explained this Quranic reference by saying “the (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of apostles and pious persons who had gone before them." [1]
He was the brother of the Prophet Musa (pbuh). Maryam (pbuh) was from the progeny of Haroon (pbuh). Hence she is being referred to him through progeny just like one would say ‘O brother of Hamdaan’ meaning one who belongs to the progeny of Hamdaan.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 later muslims scholars explained that, nmot mohammad quran wasnt compiled when mohammad was still alive. and it memorized or written somewhere bits and pieces. so i wont buy that explanation, plus the fact that in the old age they count male lines not females.
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba It was memorized by many people in its entirety. So even if a goat came and ate pages of it it did not matter as those pages could be replicated from memory.
criccraze786 1 week ago
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@sektaba
"later muslims scholars explained that, not mohammad..
i wont buy that explanation.."!!!.. lol..
This is called a 'straw man'..
You need to deal with what muslims are saying..
not come up with your own stories.. and then refute them..
sfyr 1 week ago
@sektaba The proof can be found on the first few pages of any Bible. It says "translated OUT of the original tongues, and diligently COMPARED and REVISED". Why does God's word need to be REVISED????...There is no question that man has corrupted it but that is not necissarily a bad thing. There is truth in the Bible that has to be decoded because it is hidden behind metaphors, similes,and symbolism...It is those wicked hands that did this who disrespect the prophets. There is only 1 God of all
ACelloFella 1 week ago
@ACelloFella translations corrupted the bible? LoL translationsare always open to criticism by others...and they found a word that doesnt reflect what the msg is they will change it..it is always compared to the early hebrew and greek manuscripts.
about the quran, it was of course corrupted by mohammad, for he himself forgot verses
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba You claim that Muhammad (pbuh) made up the Qur'an, why would he make such a simple error like this ( if you take in the literal sense) out of around 6000 verses.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@sektaba With all due respect, do not play games with me. It is not translations that I am talking about and you know that...It is REVISIONS..WHY, WHAT POSSIBLE REASON WOULD ANYONE REVISE GOD'S WORD?????..that is what is found on the first few pages of most Bibles.
ACelloFella 4 days ago
lol.. So the Quran is wrong because it tells stories differently than the Bible!!!
With so many errors and contradictions.. who can trust the Bible???
The Quran is correcting the stories in the Bible..
sfyr 1 month ago
@sfyr your argument is baseless!!! you quran is full of nonsense and abrogations. the bible was written by the earlier prophets on different times. the quran was writen by mohammad, that is why it has abrogations, because only man can change his mind, not God.
to me the quran is where a psychiatrist can see through what goes on inside mohammads mind. and allah is mohammads alter ego, because allah is the only god that changes his mind
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba
lol.. That's called 'Proof by ASSERTION'..
First you need to show us where the abrogation is...
sfyr 1 week ago
@sfyr
Surah 9:29 abrogating Surah 2:109
Surah 2:185 abrogating Surah 2:184
Surah 9:36 abrogating Surah 2:217 and Surah 45:14
was it allah changing his mind or mohammad having second thoughts?
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba
Hmm..
Here's good evidence that the Bible is corrupted.: watch?v=0mpHpLrJVHY
And a good evidence that the Quran is divine.: watch?v=HdQ0t1wfSe4
sfyr 1 week ago
@sfyr quran definitely not divine!!! how can you prove allah wrote the quran? tru pen and paper? did someone wrote it down for allah in heaven as he dictates it? if so why does allah need to change his mind from time to time while dictating the quran to someone?
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba
"..why does allah need to change his mind.."!!
The surahs you gave me don't prove that.. so stop making empty assertions..
"..how can you prove allah wrote the quran.."!!
I gave you a good evidence (watch?v=HdQ0t1wfSe4).. watch it..
sfyr 1 week ago
@sfyr quran is not divine!!!! man made!!! and is fiction!!!
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba another big misconception you have. The Qur'an is meant more of a book of recitation. It was recited before it was written down. So Allah does not need a pen and paper, rather Gabriel recited it to Muhammad and did not hand him a paper with the Qur'an written in it.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 anyone saw mohammad and gabriel talking? you said the bible predicted mohammad and yet you say the bible is corrupted!!!! you talking in circles
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba Well if people saw Muhmmad and Gabriel talking then what test would there be in accepting the truth. The majority would come and accept him as the messenger.
The bible is corrupted but not its in entirety. Pretend the bible is corrupted, would the people who changed the words of God write the forthcoming of Muhammad? Why would they even think about it.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 i dont even see where was the bible corrupted, no proof except what was not in the quran but in the bible is corrupted. i understand mohammad denying the trinity, but where are the corruption in the bible? the book of isiah was discovered among the dead sea scrolls and its the same as what the bible says.why is it the moslems look for mohammad in the bible and then say it is corrupted? looks like after 1400 years of islam there is still insecurity on your part.
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba "So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn." (2:79)
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 no one actually says it as word of God but inspired by God and authors were attributed to each book. and its always gonna be many men who whgo scrutinoze those books before it can be accepted as inspired by God. and how can you prove that where the sell verses for a price? did any one payed moses to write genesis and numbers? i really dont understand how muslims came up with that kind of accusations
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba the priests and the scholars of the bible changed em. And how do you know the person is inspired by God, I can claim to be inspired by God and make stuff up.
criccraze786 6 days ago
@criccraze786 believe what you believe in but do not look for mohammad in the bible and then say the bible is corrupted. dont be insecure about your beliefs. dont go looking for scientific miracles in the quran also.
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba We don't look for scientific miracles in the Quran. They appear to us as we read. Wouldn't you be amazed if someone told you something today that was impossible to know at this time and you found that its true 1000 years later. You might consider it lucky but when more than 20,30 of these things occur then it would be foolish of you to consider it lucky.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 yeah yeah yeah that the world was a sphere says the quran LoL but then again some verses will say it as flat as a carpet....it is obviuos the quran has borrowed a lot from other sources, the greeks already postulated that the earth was round and someone even calculated its circumference. mohammad traded with lots of people for his wife's business and that is where he learned and mixed everything up
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba 1) These verses were revealed at different times for different context. The verse in surah tawba ( surah 9) refers to the time the Muslims were in battle to encourage the Muslims to fight back.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 that surah wasnt recited by gabriel to mohammad im sure as it is obvious mohammad wanted men at his side
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba Muhammad (pbuh) already had men at his side. Some of these men were reluctant on fighting the people who had drove them out of their city. These verses were revealed to encourage them. Even the enemies of Muhammad(pbuh) were convinced that what Muhammad was reciting was not something he made up, they were convinced that it was definently a revelation of God but they denied it out of arrogance.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 revealed when men were about to desserty mohammad in battle! and no one saw gabriel too or even saw mohammad talking to an invicible enitity. maybe its one of the generals who made it up ot mohammad himself to keep the troops by having them fear eternal hellfire if they desert your prophet. that is why i cannot accpet mohammad because revelations comes everytime he personally needs it.
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba What about the verses that were revealed to correct the prophet? Look at how much the prophet suffered in Taif. None of that is recorded in the Qur'an. All it says is that have patience, and dont grieve over what they say.
criccraze786 6 days ago
@criccraze786 mohammad sufering? hahahahaha he always have his allah at his side making up things so mohammad can be justified everytime he needs something. even his wife thinks so when mohammad married the wife of his adopted son
sektaba 6 days ago
@sektaba Well you're obviously ignorant of these verses, The Prophet frowned and turned away (1) Because there came to him the blind man, [interrupting]. (2) But what would make you perceive, [O Muhammad], that perhaps he might be purified (3) Or be reminded and the remembrance would benefit him? (4) As for he who thinks himself without need, (5) To him you give attention. (6) And not upon you [is any blame] if he will not be purified. (7) Where is Allah(swt) backing him up here?
criccraze786 6 days ago
@criccraze786 allah backs him up everytime dude! havent you noticed? for every time mohammad wants something he gets it as allh always comes up with the revelation.
and regarding your prophet as a person of humility: "Riyadh-us-Saliheeh" The prophet was once said to Umar bin Khattab would you give your daughter to someone better that Abu-Bakr, Uthman and Ali to which Umar replied yes, then the prophet said O Umar give your daughter to me. l
sektaba 6 days ago
@sektaba bro post the whole hadith or post the hadith number atleast.
criccraze786 6 days ago
@sektaba btw theyre from [80:1-7]
criccraze786 6 days ago
@sektaba Utbah bin Rabiah was a fierce enemy of Islam. He was a pro at mocking and debating with people. The leaders of Quraysh told him to go tell Muhammad to stop calling to the worship of one God. He went and asked Muhammad to stop and in return they will give him with anything he wants, women, power, land etc. Muhammad asked Utbah if he was done and then recited few verses from the Quran. Utbah's heart trembled and told him to stop reciting. He then went to the leaders and said..
criccraze786 1 week ago
@sektaba what this man is calling to is definently the truth and if you don't accept his message, there will be a definite destruction upon you. He then told the leaders to keep him away from Muhammad as these verses from the Quran will affect him. That is only one story, It is up to you to look at Islam from an unbiased view. Theres an answer to every claim you make, it depends on you if you really wanna know the truth or are just mocking Islam for what it preaches.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 i mock mohammad everytime you muslims claim the bible as corrupt. i mock you for your vain attempt to prove you are the truth by degrading other people! all prophets are reluctant prophets but mohammad was an eager prophet, why is that? the old prophets wrote the old book and if mohammad is not in those books it is corrupted according to muslims. the quran has so many interpretations that every muslim can use it for their own personal gain just like mohammad
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba lol no muslim is allowd to intrepret the Quran for personal. Forming an opinion about the Quran even if its right is wrong.
criccraze786 6 days ago
@criccraze786 if that is the case you better be watching islamic youtube videos saying its OK to kill non muslims and tell them they are wrong instead of being here trying to say quran is the work of god.
sektaba 6 days ago
@sektaba what??!? That makes no sense truthseeker
criccraze786 6 days ago
@criccraze786 you said it yourself that no muslim should interpret the quran for his own personal gain!!! now look at your brothers using the quran to cannibalize their enemies. to force sharia to all, and use it for war mongering!!! you dont understand what your muslim brothers are doing?
sektaba 6 days ago
@sektaba What theyre doing is bending Islam for their personal gain, which is completely against Islam and its teachings. If you're gonna judge Islam based on few people who bend its teachings then you're being foolish. Anyways lets get back on the topic, you're trying to seek truth right?
criccraze786 6 days ago
@sektaba 2) Don't understand how you consider them abrogating each other.
3) (Say to the believers to forgive those who hope not for the Days of Allah,) means, let the believers forgive the disbelievers and endure the harm that they direct against them. In the beginning of Islam,
criccraze786 1 week ago
@sektaba 3) Continued... Muslims were ordered to observe patience in the face of the oppression of the idolators and the People of the Scriptures so that their hearts may incline towards Islam. However, when the disbelievers persisted in stubbornness, Allah legislated for the believers to fight in Jihad.
The one Surah 2:217 forbids Muslims from fighting in the sacred month.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 oppressed by the people of the book? mohammads ass was saved by a christian king you ingrate.
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba The majority of the people of the book oppressed them. Najashi provided them a safe haven and upon listening to the verse of the Qur'an about Jesus and Mary his tears soaked up his beard. Btw, we were talking about the two verses you claimed to be contradicting each other, lets get back to them.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 no one oppressed oppressed the early moslems except mohammads own people, actually they just want mohammad to stop attacking their old ways. your claim on the bible corrupted can be traced to the nestorians and other gnostic writings abundant in mohammads time, like jesus performing miracles at an early age, that he didnt died on the cross etc. regarding translations on the bible, it is always open to criticism and improvement.some of those gnosticss embraced islam
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba Most of the pagans attacked him, why because Makkah was built on a tribal system. If he claimed to be the messenger of God, then all the leaders would have to give up their leadership and Muhammad(pbuh) would take control. They were afraid of this so they repelled him and his followers out of Makkah.
criccraze786 1 week ago
@criccraze786 yeah yeah yeah but they never sent someone to kill mohammad!!! unlike mohammad who ordered muslims to kill those people he didnt like, and mind you even an old woman
sektaba 1 week ago
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@sektaba "kill those people he didnt like, and mind you even an old woman"
yep another thing you've got off those hate sites, I thought you were truth seeker. Truth seekers don't accept info just because it suits their agenda rather they investigate teh credibility of the info. I know for sure you haven't done that. If you want, I'll tell you the real story behind Umm Qirfa.
criccraze786 6 days ago
@criccraze786 you have the hadiths that support that story!!! you emulate mohammad following the hadiths and when some evil things mohammad did, its not true suddenly! when can muslkims be true about themselves?
sektaba 6 days ago
@sektaba Truthseeker speak english so I can understand or type properly, you are making no sense right now.
criccraze786 6 days ago
@criccraze786 there will always be stories that justifies mohammad right? that he always fight defensively but greedily takes a big portions of the war booty. hahahahahaha
sektaba 6 days ago
@sektaba bro he slept on straw mats, If he wanted wealth, women or power he would have accepted it loong ago when the Quraysh offered all of these things to him if he stopped preaching. What kind of truthseeker are you?
criccraze786 6 days ago
LOL..you read the Quran with blind eyes..feel sorry for you.
glower125 1 month ago
@glower125 Correction, those who follow islam have the blind eyss, they deny reality and lie to non-believers (taqiyya). People with intelligence usually see through the koran in short order, especially when they learn about abrogation. Mainly when they learn that the peaceful verses have been abrogated (overruled) by the sword verses.
TheBardicDruid 1 month ago
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this is how you find the errors in the bible...
see the accounts of one person. mark luke john ect . .
then see the same accounts of someone else of the same account and youll find there would be many insetsy ini.. for example one person would say he said this.. anoyther would say compltry something else..
one person would say he said nothign when he was on the cross and die that way. another wouls say he said my father ect ..
rudeboywaz 2 months ago
Bible is corrupted, Quran's the real uncorrupted story.
dragon888193ftw 2 months ago
@dragon888193ftw i concur, the bible fails. islam ftw
thisbro1 2 months ago
@dragon888193ftw
What evidence do you have to support this claim ?
becharev 1 month ago
@becharev
Well, why would drinking be allowed in Christianity if its bad?
In Islam you cannot drink wine.
dragon888193ftw 1 month ago
@dragon888193ftw
How sad ! No Plonk for the muslims!
becharev 1 month ago
@becharev Changing the subject, I see.
dragon888193ftw 1 month ago
@dragon888193ftw
No, I don´t see. Please explain how I am changing the subject
becharev 1 month ago
@becharev You didn't have a proper answer so you replied to me with a sentence that has no meaning.
dragon888193ftw 1 month ago
@dragon888193ftw
Surah 2:219: They ask thee concerning wine and gambling. Say: "In them is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit." They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say: "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth Allah Make clear to you His Signs: In order that ye may consider.
--- before you can see the sand speck in your neighbors eyes, removed the beam from your own eyes so you will see better.
muslim = self righteous = vanity
sektaba 1 week ago
I am learning a lot from you. You make the Muslims uncomfortable, I love it because you expose their lies and they can't gainsay. All they can do is call you a liar, but they have no substance to back with
ajlapiana 3 months ago
and by the way, he didnt quote anything from the Quran, and not even the translation except few words!
read the Quran guys and see how does a book which was authored by Allah/God looks like! u will see the difference between human books and God book like day and night!
and never judge anything of the Quran until u read it all or big parts of it
jackfatal2 5 months ago
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@jackfatal2 "read the Quran guys and see how does a book which was authored by Allah/God looks like! u will see the difference between human books and God book like day and night!"
So what impresses you about the quran?
What is in it that you can say it must be from allah and not man?
Is it written on a substance that is unknown to man?
Is the ink some magical element that can only be from allah?
Why do you believe it's not man made?
sirjambo 4 months ago
another comment on his claim that where the stories in the Quran came from and about who wrote them.
as for the stories in the Quran, they r stories not fairy tales, a story is based on true events, and the original gospel and Torah did include those stories, but people corrupted it and u wont see them any more in the current bible!
it amazes me to see some of the true stories still survived and he called their authors as fakers!
then what is the criteria to decide an author is good or bad?
jackfatal2 5 months ago
another comment on his claim that where the stories in the Quran came from and about who wrote them.
first the bible authors r unknown at all! i challenge anychristian or jew to produce to me the writers of the manuscripts of the bible? the bible says "according to Mark" or "according to John" etc, so we know for sure Mark John and the others didnt write them! same with the old testament, so then who wrote then on papers and where are those papers?
jackfatal2 5 months ago
@jackfatal2 look up some dead sea scrolls
sektaba 1 week ago
@sektaba i did. again the dead sea scrolls does not go to the authors original manuscripts text. from old testament to the new testament, everything is written by unknown men and they attribute it to prophets. so basically jews and christians following unkown men religion. so dont be suprised on the Judgment day to see reality very different from what u were told on bible.
jackfatal2 6 days ago
@jackfatal2 you didnt read shit!!! quran was made by mohammad using his alter ego. have you looked up isiah in the dead sea scrolls?
sektaba 6 days ago
oh, it is almost pointless to argue with stupid liar people.
Allah did challenge all man kind to produce just 1 verse like the Quran! and they havent and they tried but failed! so prepare for hell fire which the stones and men are its fuel!
and about this comedian in the video, i would say find me 1 sentence in the Quran which is the same as in the bible or anywhere else!
and i will say to him provide evidence for his claims! i can say what ever i say without reliable references.
he failed!
jackfatal2 5 months ago
@jackfatal2 Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi
You claim that the evidentiary miracle is present and available, namely, the Koran. You say: "Whoever denies it, let him produce a similar one."... By God what you say astonishes us! You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation. Then you say: "Produce something like it"?!
What is your PROOF it's from a GOD?
sirjambo 4 months ago
@sirjambo if Quran from man, then surely man can make something like it or similar, so why no one was able to do it? not now not 1000 years ago and not 1432 years ago!
u said it is full of contradictions? bring just one! u will not be able to and u will fail.
as for useful information, well, am living my life on it, and it has solutions for everything and answers for all important things, if u cant see it useful it is because u r disbeliever.
as for the proof Quran is from God.
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jackfatal2 4 months ago
@jackfatal2 "if Quran from man, then surely man can make something like it or similar, so why no one was able to do it?"
WHO decides if another book is superior?
A muslim with a brainwashed closed brain will NEVER say another book is better because he wouldn't KNOW.
"u said it is full of contradictions? bring just one! u will not be able to and u will fail."
OK is there compulsion in islam?
If not what is the penalty for leaving islam?
sirjambo 4 months ago
@sirjambo who decides u say? u can bring your own people and judge fairly.
and u havent replied to my questions earlier, so go read it again and reply.
jackfatal2 4 months ago
@jackfatal2 "u can bring your own people and judge fairly."
Then it's been done for a very long time. And it's been decided that the quran is not from god since it was man who wrote it. Is allah an illiterate beduin also?
"and u havent replied to my questions earlier"
Which ones?
Is there compulsion in islam?
If not what is the penalty for leaving islam?
sirjambo 4 months ago
@sirjambo it looks that u dont get me or u do it by purpose. i said Allah challenged mankind to produce something like the Quran if they think it is not from Allah/God. so it means the persons who dont think Quran is from Allah, they should write something like the Quran and claim it that it is like the Quran. and those who wrote it should bring their own witnesses to judge if their writing is like Quran or not.
nothing is like the Quran! and Quran is in Arabic!! not English!
jackfatal2 4 months ago
@jackfatal2
Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi
You claim that the evidentiary miracle is present and available, namely, the Koran. You say: "Whoever denies it, let him produce a similar one."... By God what you say astonishes us! You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation. Then you say: "Produce something like it"?!
Your god is very weak!
sirjambo 4 months ago
@sirjambo thats the best you got? a repeated sentence which has no back up?
and the disbelievers will always fail with their belief.
jackfatal2 4 months ago
@jackfatal2
In t he English version the word "philosophy" is not mentioned at all !
Paradise consists of drunkennes and promiscuity, close communion with the creator is nonexistent .
Some authorities translate "houris" as raisins, readily available at any local store.
becharev 1 month ago
@sirjambo i have asked u to show me one flaw or contradiction in the Quran, but u failed to answer me!
jackfatal2 4 months ago
@jackfatal2
"i have asked u to show me one flaw or contradiction in the Quran, but u failed to answer me!"
Well there are so many but let's begin with the FLAT earth like in sura 79:30.
Are you gonna say that sura is talking about OSTRICH EGG SHAPED earth?
Remember that your own profit BELIEVED the sun traveled at NIGHT.
So where did he say the sun went?
sirjambo 4 months ago
@sirjambo as for the earth is flat, well, in other translations it says the earth spread our, it means stretched out, and that is a fact, so it says the earth after that is streched out, there is no where where it say the earth is a flat planet, the verse was was talking about God's creation, it says "And after that He spread the earth" spreading earth is not making earth flat!
so nice try! besides, it does look stretched or flat from our perspective. and in arabic it doesnt use flat.
jackfatal2 4 months ago
@jackfatal2 ""And after that He spread the earth" spreading earth is not making earth flat!"
Here is the tafsir;
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
and after that He spread out the earth: He made it flat, for it had been created before the heaven, but without having been spread out;
Also your profit in an authentic hadith said "do you know where the sun travels to at night?"
Why not ask your imam or islamic scholars what was the FIRST thing allah did?
The earth is FLAT according to both profit and allah
sirjambo 4 months ago
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jackfatal2 4 months ago
@sirjambo show me where it says the earth is flat? there are more than one tafsir for almost every verse in the Quran. the verse says the earth is stretched which also could mean flattened.
and yes the earth is flat for us! when u walk in a street, do u see the earth circle or flat? and that fact the God said He stretched the earth out/flattened it, it could mean that it is originally not flat or stretched!
what about the sun travel? u got problem with science?
jackfatal2 4 months ago
@jackfatal2 " the verse says the earth is stretched which also could mean flattened."
So it means FLATTENED you say so yourself.
You will notice that the earth does not move because allah put mountains as pegs.
Notice also that your profit said the sun traveled somewhere at night.
He and allah are describing a FLAT or FLATTENED earth. Why are you going against them?
"and yes the earth is flat for us!"
No it APPEARS flat but it is NOT can you see the difference?
sirjambo 4 months ago
@jackfatal2 " the verse says the earth is stretched which also could mean flattened."
So it means FLATTENED you say so yourself.
You will notice that the earth does not move because allah put mountains as pegs.
Notice also that your profit said the sun traveled somewhere at night.
He and allah are describing a FLAT or FLATTENED earth. Why are you going against them?
"and yes the earth is flat for us!"
No it APPEARS flat but it is NOT can you see the difference?
sirjambo 4 months ago
"what about the sun travel? u got problem with science?"
The sun traveling according to your profit is not a scientific statement.
He is describing a flat earth because the sun is not going anywhere at NIGHT!
It seems you are the one with a problem.
sirjambo 4 months ago
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jackfatal2 4 months ago
@sirjambo i see u r being stupid with me, what profit? r we talking about business profit? if so, then we r talking in different worlds. fix that with the proper spelling then we may proceed.
jackfatal2 4 months ago
@jackfatal2 "i see u r being stupid with me, what profit?"
You must have me confused with your muslim brothers or sisters.
It's easy being stupid when you believe a man who was an oversexed illiterate warlord is somehow the greatest man ever and a messenger of a god.
YOU can call him whatever you want. I chose to call him the profit of islam when I am being politically correct. He is not someone anyone with a working brain can like.
sirjambo 4 months ago
@sirjambo as for the sun, i have no idea where u brought it from, but if u study a little astronomy, u would know the the sun is at a constant movement around it self, and our solar system is also moving very fast.
so again. nice try but not.
if thats the best u got, i can imagine what will be the other contradictions u have!
my advice, read the Quran with different translations, try to understand it, and if u see a contradictions u may ask. and u will know it is the truth if God wills.
jackfatal2 4 months ago
@jackfatal2 you are wrong!!!! joseph smith wrote another revelation from God and his followers are the mormons. mormons will say they are christians too but have their own book. quran maybe a book of poetry but certainly not from God
sektaba 1 week ago
@jackfatal2 yeah man was made from bood clot then in some verses from clay etc. the reason it has contradictions is because it borrowed heavily on supposed christian and jewish writings at that time, even swabians and greeks. how can it include solomon meeting sheba tru a bird? hahahahaha quran even got verses from a childrens story
sektaba 6 days ago
@sirjambo the proof that Quran is from God is many, i will mention some
1: the only error free book on earth, with no flaws or contradictions
2: the only book which was not changed for more than 1432 years (not even 1 letter have changed)
3: the only book that has so many scientific miracles, which by every passing day, more scientific miracles are discovered.
4: God challenged man kind and the jinn kind to produce just a verse like the Quran, yet for 1432 years no body could do it.
jackfatal2 4 months ago
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@jackfatal2 "1: the only error free book on earth, with no flaws or contradictions"
So all I need is 1 contradiction or flaw to prove the quran is a joke?
"2: the only book which was not changed for more than 1432 years (not even 1 letter have changed)"
What did the 3rd Kalifa do to ALL qurans?
"3: the only book that has so many scientific miracles, which by every passing day, more scientific miracles are discovered."
Name 1 SCIENTIFIC MIRACLE?
"4: ..."
WEAK!
sirjambo 4 months ago
@jackfatal2
"the only book which was not changed for more than 1432 years (not even 1 letter have changed)". This is patently a stupid statement, probably based on ignorance and a lack of familiarity with ancient, hand written manuscripts. There are as many versions as there were human scribes.
becharev 1 month ago
@becharev "There are as many versions as there were human scribes" which seems nullify the statement "not even 1 letter have changed". This is just more proof of how muslims just make shit up on the fly, too bad they're not smart enough to keep things straight. So are we going to believe someone who's religion teaches lying (taqiyya) to non-believers??
TheBardicDruid 1 month ago
@TheBardicDruid
"..believe someone who's religion teaches lying (taqiyya).."!!!
The prophet Muhammad (PBUH) never advocated lying..
But guess who did...
the saintly apostle Paul...
sfyr 1 month ago
@sfyr Now that's a new one, mohammed did teach lying and deceit and hatred. There's nothing peaceful about the koran, espically when you learn about abrogation. You know where all the peaceful verses are overruled by the sword verses. And taqiyya (lying to non-muslims) is in the koran, 2:225, 3:28, 3:54, 9:3, 16:106, 40:28 and 66:2. And it all deals with deceiving the non-believer.
TheBardicDruid 1 month ago
@TheBardicDruid
lol.. stop watching fox news and read the Quran for yourself..
Allah didn't order the killing of children..
Allah didn't order his prophets to commit genocide..
Guess who did???... Yahwe..
Have you read the Bible???
sfyr 1 month ago
@sfyr I've read the christian bible, the jewish torah, and the koran. There all man made stories, and only the ignorant follow them.
TheBardicDruid 1 month ago
sfyr 1 month ago
@sfyr If you play with numbers long enough you can get them to say anything you want.
TheBardicDruid 1 month ago
@TheBardicDruid
Wooow.. That's all you've got to say..
If you can't handle the truth.. don't ask for it..
sfyr 1 month ago
@sfyr The fact is someone doesn't see islam the same as you do, and you can't stop trying to convince them your view is right. That's called fanaticism, blind belief and doing what a religious leader says all the time breeds this. It usually happens among weak minded people without much intelligence.
TheBardicDruid 1 month ago
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sfyr 1 month ago
@sfyr Like I said fanatic.
TheBardicDruid 1 month ago
@TheBardicDruid
lol.. Did you check out the website???
Let me guess.. you didn't..
You're very open minded!!!
PS: pls note the sarcasm..
sfyr 1 month ago
@jackfatal2 stupid liar people? hahahahahahaha how can you be a liar if you are stupid? the wisest always will always be the better liar asshole
sektaba 6 days ago
The Koran is a counterfeit book were the characters are all borrowed from the Bible like Abraham, Isa (Jesus), Mary (Jesus mother) and so own. The original Koran is lost in the 7th century and the Koran that they have is the Ottman Koran. So who wrote the Koran?
9999rosebud 6 months ago
I ALREADY READ THE QURAN AND MANY OF THE HADITHS AND FOR ME THE QURAN IS A MAN MADE BOOK. IT IS BORING, REPETITIOUS, POOR IN VOCABULARY IN METAPHORES. IT JUMPS FROM ONE SUBJECT TO THE OTHER AND IT IS A MESSAGE OF HATRED, A BOOK OF PROPAGANDA CREATED BY AN IMPOSTOR WHO WANTED POWER, MUHAMMED. MUHAMMED KNEW THAT HE WAS AN IMPOSTOR AND HE USED THE FEAR OF HELL AS A TOOL OF CONTROL BUT HIS UNHOLY LIFE PROVED THAT HE WAS NOT A MAN OF GOD. HE HAD SEX SLAVES, 33:50-52. HE PREACHED WAR, 8:39, 9:29
DictaduraNo123 6 months ago
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youneekk 6 months ago
There in none worthy of worship but Allah. Muhammad is the final Prophet of Allah. The Quran is the Final Revelation of The Almighty Allah (God).
imas4j 7 months ago
i hope people put the quran in the toilet and shit on it, im thinking about announcing july 4th official shit on a quran day :)
ResistIslamToday 7 months ago
Jay please write down the title accounts of the crow story because from hearing you I can`t spell these titles. If anyone else can help me please reply.
Thank you
FeignofCordor 7 months ago
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Please read these books: Misquoting Jesus, Jesus Interrupted, Studies in the Textual Criticism of the New Testament Christianity in Late Antiquity, The Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew, Lost Scriptures: Books that Did Not MakeIt into the New Testament by Bart D. Ehrman, American New Testament scholar. if you are honest spent some time and research. And Also research Quran with open heart and dont follow what media says about islam.
shovon100 8 months ago
This truly shows the ignorance and deception of the purveyors of darkness. Who chose the books that are called the bible today? King James or the church fathers? Or Constatine another King. The bible can only be confirmed today , but by The Qur'anul Kareem, the Qur'an is Arabic in text complied into a book by the companions of the Prophet Muhammad. The Arabic style in which it written is a miracle unto itself, no human being can come close to writing anything near the style and beauty of it.
sadiq53 9 months ago
@sadiq53 stop being brainwashed.
Lobaugan 8 months ago
@sadiq53 you speak with lack of knowledge
i am not a muslim but im guessing you are a muslim
it is wrong to make statements without checking history-the koran says dont accept any information without studying-was constantine a kking who chose the books of the bible? who are the church fathers? name some if you know any
princefy 8 months ago
@sadiq53 The Qu ran is not a miracle its just a compilation of arabicized gnostic doctrines
SonofJaphet 7 months ago
@sadiq53 do you even know Arabic? The Arabic in the Quran isn't really all that hard if you study the style. Personally I think the Syrians have a nicer type of Arabic, it's much more pleasant sounding but hey, that's my OPINION
You're opinion is that the arabic in the book is the greatest, that's fine you can have an opinion, but dont try to present it as fact. That's just stupid.
mites7 7 months ago
The problem with the Bible is that people got to choose what words to keep and what words to remove.
Sorry,Did i say words?
I meant chapters.
Unitedbytruth 10 months ago
@Unitedbytruth And problem with Quran is that Caliphs & translators get to choose what Suras or even words to keep and what to remeove.
Sorry, Did i say Suras and words?? I just thought of Hafsa....
I meant Qurans.
christ4all2allmyall 9 months ago
Awesome work., well studied
Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart for the care of effort you place into your studies.., I truly appreciate your time and devotion.
mysty0 11 months ago
WOW they say you should learn something new every day- after watching this I learned something new- thanks.
urheadonastick 11 months ago
the quran is a mystical book...based on the illusions that Muhammad had when he heard the stories of the Bible.
Boygadget 1 year ago 13
I love it ! Keep em coming jay!
saifon2007 1 year ago
this stupid chrstian don t know what he talking about...he not know arabic language lol and this is wat stupid christian trying to do ...first of all there is on ly ONE scripture of quaran..u can pick 5 books of quran from 5 different countrie u will see is the same and is in arabic...so if a stupid christian has somthing to say about quran shud know speak arabic or stop acting like a pig
cheker102 1 year ago
@cheker102 you are the one being stupid
DagomirT 11 months ago
@cheker102 Actually, in sweden we have Qurans that are translated into swedish, sorry to burst your little dictatorship bubble of your ugly Quran. I pee in mohammeds mouth, and I shit in Osamas mouth. What you gonna do about it? You fucking terrorist.
Lobaugan 8 months ago
@cheker102 The Inspired Word of God the Bible was written so ALL can read it in their own language. The koran is a man-made book with gnostic writings that were written hundreds of years after the Bible had already been written. Mohammad didn't check his sources very well!! 1 SAVIOUR WHO IS JESUS CHRIST!!! If u want 2 know the real Jesus u need 2 read God's Word. Mohammad is clearly a deceiver + false prophet. ONLY the blind + ignorant follow the obvious lies of the koran...
The3in1trinity 7 months ago
Sir you are missing a BIG and HUGE important fact about the Quran and that it Says Oh Muhammad we read upon you the best of the stories ... and That the Quran tells us to believe in all the books of God that came ... Those scripts are wonderful that you found and we thank you for making sure that the Quran has incorporated the best of the Stories with sources that u can check and left all the silly stories out in your man made Bible ... I dont understand what are you trying to achive Sir !!!
habooble 1 year ago
@habooble The koran DOESN'T have actual stories from the Bible. The koran has gnostic writings that r heretical + distortions of Scripture. The koran denies that Jesus the Son of God died on the cross 4 sinners + denies Jesus is the Son of God. God's Word disagrees with the satanic counterfeit koran. Muslims r blind 2 the obvious: the koran is false like it's false prophet. There is 1 name given whereby we must b saved + He is Jesus Christ who is both Saviour + God in the flesh...
The3in1trinity 7 months ago
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أخواني أخواتي في الاسلام يا حراس العقيده هذا النجس الذي يدعى
intushabitat
عمله الوحيد هو الاسائه الى الاسلام والمسلمين والى رسولنا الحبيب المصطفى صلى الله عليه وسلم الرجاء مراقبته أنه يتنقل من موقع الى موقع وهدفه فقط الاسائه الى رسول الله عليكم به وعدم السماح له بأفعاله الخسيسه أنه رسولكم الحبيب المصطفى عليه الصلاة والسلام
ألا تنصروه فقد نصره الله تعالى
osamyoosama 1 year ago
In Quran Solomon would have never heard of the Queen of Shiiba if it werent for the hooper
Solomon in the Quranic story invites her to Monotheism
Here's the funny part,
Solomon's father in Law was the gentile poletheist King AHiram who gifted him ships which have docked the ports of the Kingdom of Shiiba on their trade cruises
intushabitat 1 year ago
the Quran is just a shitty rip off of Judaism and Christianity.
mites7 1 year ago 11
@mites7 your partly right, the was i understand it is before muhammed the pedo rapist got involved and politicized it, it actually was very close to judaism, you know how jews when they gather they seperate them men and women during meetings well the muslims did somthing similar but they ran a sheet down the middle of a room, this is what a was known as HIJAB it wasnt a halloween costume that covered ya head to toe you should listen to the islam for idiots series on here
ResistIslamToday 7 months ago
@ResistIslamToday I'm from the Middle East, I've spoken Arabic my whole life, and recently learned the style within the Quran., so I read the whole thing back to front a few years ago.
yeah I didnt really have some great epiphany, it was just a lot of stuff I'd already heard just presented a different way. Though I think it's interesting the context that the Quran and Hadith give for Mohammed's actions, as many verses are directly related to events
mites7 7 months ago