Interesting kata but not 100% sure of what lineage of Kobudo from Okinawa or of the Ryukyuan Islands having studied Kobudo from both Okinawan and Japanese Karate and Kobudo sensei since 1965. Interesting, not bad. At least he is not throwing fancy open style techniques however it is more Japanese because of the length of the stance(kamae) he uses. Just a humble observation.
None of you understand martial arts. One does not throw one's body into the enemy. they causes off-balance, making you fall forward, and your entire backside is vulnerable to attack.
all forms of karate is for self-defense purposes only. meaning you attack the enemy, but only so much. you fight until your enemy is exhausted, and then you go for the kill. balance is key.
even then, a kata is a dictionary of standardized strikes and poses. they help you remember. nothing more.
I took karate, and the number one rule was never invest in throwing yourself. If you miss, you want to quickly, and many times instantly recover from your miss.
That allows you to always pull back to the original stance, and reduce the risk of being hit by any form of counter-attack. this allows for a full defense, as well as the ability to counter-attack at any time yourself, and so on and so on.
always keep your guard up, do not sacrifice balance or defense for power and brute force attack.
The guy performing this is a 5th Dan in the Shorinkan organization. Style is Shorin Ryu and his name is Lee Price. We train together in Northwest Florida.
I will never believe this to be a traditional performance simply because it is filled with egocentric theatrics. The American "open tournament" circuit is more of a Disney production than demonstrations of good martial arts. It is a sad commentary when fraudulent behavior is supported and applauded (by other frauds). To those below, the knowing martial artist does not use "sensei, shihan, soke, renshi, hanshi" etc indiscriminately, it speaks of ego and self absorption. Grow up!!
Wow who peed in your wheaties? The kata does a little to bring some credibility to us degenerate Americans and you knock them down. He does a great job on a kata, even if it is on the "American Circuit" and all you can do is criticise, talk about ego and self absorption!
You sound like a modern liberal that wants no opposition to their position. When it happens, the opposer is painted with a wide brush of distraction in order to avoid the issue. The kata is theatrics, plain and simple. It displays an attitude contrary to Okinawa kobu-do where the ieku came from (the oar or paddle he is using). It sends an erroneous message. If it is ok with you, I oppose such. If I can keep one person from believing this is true Okinawa kobu-do that is my goal. What's yours?
I love it when people have me figured out after watching a 2:13 video I filmed and one reply. Yes this it theatrics and not I don't expect him to be defending himself with an oar, or a pair of nunchaku, or a katana. I expect he will use a knife, or a club. I have a feeling he will have a good degree of success despite not being up to your standards.
Sorry man, the form really is horrible functionally. I don't know if Okinawan kobudo kata are supposed to just be strings of poses, but there was zero intent in that, and zero use of basic body mecahnics even in the simplest of strikes. If it's just a theatric performance, that's fine. If it's supposed to be a drill or reflection of martial ability, it's not.
I mean it is pretty, and it may be technically correct, but the theme is the same through the whole kata. For example, with his thrusts, his body and hips don't come into the actual strike in the least. It might be technically correct, but from a functional standpoint, it's the worst way to generate power. The non-stepping movements are the same, all arms. He's demonstrating real techniques, but footwork, timing, angling and distance are totally absent.
Those are the things that win altercations, not form for the sake of form.
Sorry about the multipost, and I don't mean to put him down at all. Simply explaining the distinction between performance and martiality. Both are legitimate methods, but in situations like these, the line between them tends to blur for many people.
I have a feeling if he cracks you in the skull with the oar it will hurt, even if he doesn't do it as perfectly as you wish. I'd say he would defend himself just fine. Then again he only does karate and I don't know enough about his throwing or ground work.
Well of course, but if all you can say for him is "It's an oar, it'll hurt no matter how good he is with it", then what does that say about him as a martial artist? Really, I mean it's not like he's the only one on earth to ever pick up a weapon. The fact that oars hurt doesn't excuse bad movement. I mean if that's your philosophy, just buy a gun. It'll save a lot of time and money.
This is Shuguro no Kai, also called Shorinkan no Eiku. It was developed by Nakazato Shuguro, head of the Shorinkan. This rendition has wider stances and longer, more dramatic, pauses. Otherwise, the techniques look pretty much the same. I learned the kata from Kevin Roberts of the Shorinkan.
appears to be a kata from USKA style or put together from someone in America. It does not appear to be one of the traditional kata of Okinawa or Japan because the kamae are too long. Would do well probably in open tournaments for competition. Interesting moves.
It is a traditional kata with a little extra vocals for an open tournament. Yes he did deepen the stances a little since it is an Okinawain kobudo kata, but it is unchanged as far as the moves go.
the way i was taught he is not holding the ekku correctly at kyotsuke
ShotokanBleach 6 months ago
Interesting kata but not 100% sure of what lineage of Kobudo from Okinawa or of the Ryukyuan Islands having studied Kobudo from both Okinawan and Japanese Karate and Kobudo sensei since 1965. Interesting, not bad. At least he is not throwing fancy open style techniques however it is more Japanese because of the length of the stance(kamae) he uses. Just a humble observation.
holleykyoshi 11 months ago
None of you understand martial arts. One does not throw one's body into the enemy. they causes off-balance, making you fall forward, and your entire backside is vulnerable to attack.
all forms of karate is for self-defense purposes only. meaning you attack the enemy, but only so much. you fight until your enemy is exhausted, and then you go for the kill. balance is key.
even then, a kata is a dictionary of standardized strikes and poses. they help you remember. nothing more.
Inmango 2 years ago
I took karate, and the number one rule was never invest in throwing yourself. If you miss, you want to quickly, and many times instantly recover from your miss.
That allows you to always pull back to the original stance, and reduce the risk of being hit by any form of counter-attack. this allows for a full defense, as well as the ability to counter-attack at any time yourself, and so on and so on.
always keep your guard up, do not sacrifice balance or defense for power and brute force attack.
Inmango 2 years ago
I'm glad you learned so much when you took karate.
Floridadreamer04 2 years ago
What is the name of this kata?
Samurai1138 2 years ago
The guy performing this is a 5th Dan in the Shorinkan organization. Style is Shorin Ryu and his name is Lee Price. We train together in Northwest Florida.
senseimak 3 years ago
and the kata is great
senseimak 3 years ago
I will never believe this to be a traditional performance simply because it is filled with egocentric theatrics. The American "open tournament" circuit is more of a Disney production than demonstrations of good martial arts. It is a sad commentary when fraudulent behavior is supported and applauded (by other frauds). To those below, the knowing martial artist does not use "sensei, shihan, soke, renshi, hanshi" etc indiscriminately, it speaks of ego and self absorption. Grow up!!
IEKUKATAKA 3 years ago
Wow who peed in your wheaties? The kata does a little to bring some credibility to us degenerate Americans and you knock them down. He does a great job on a kata, even if it is on the "American Circuit" and all you can do is criticise, talk about ego and self absorption!
Floridadreamer04 3 years ago
You sound like a modern liberal that wants no opposition to their position. When it happens, the opposer is painted with a wide brush of distraction in order to avoid the issue. The kata is theatrics, plain and simple. It displays an attitude contrary to Okinawa kobu-do where the ieku came from (the oar or paddle he is using). It sends an erroneous message. If it is ok with you, I oppose such. If I can keep one person from believing this is true Okinawa kobu-do that is my goal. What's yours?
IEKUKATAKA 3 years ago
I love it when people have me figured out after watching a 2:13 video I filmed and one reply. Yes this it theatrics and not I don't expect him to be defending himself with an oar, or a pair of nunchaku, or a katana. I expect he will use a knife, or a club. I have a feeling he will have a good degree of success despite not being up to your standards.
Floridadreamer04 2 years ago
Sorry man, the form really is horrible functionally. I don't know if Okinawan kobudo kata are supposed to just be strings of poses, but there was zero intent in that, and zero use of basic body mecahnics even in the simplest of strikes. If it's just a theatric performance, that's fine. If it's supposed to be a drill or reflection of martial ability, it's not.
JinsukeHP 2 years ago
I mean it is pretty, and it may be technically correct, but the theme is the same through the whole kata. For example, with his thrusts, his body and hips don't come into the actual strike in the least. It might be technically correct, but from a functional standpoint, it's the worst way to generate power. The non-stepping movements are the same, all arms. He's demonstrating real techniques, but footwork, timing, angling and distance are totally absent.
JinsukeHP 2 years ago
Those are the things that win altercations, not form for the sake of form.
Sorry about the multipost, and I don't mean to put him down at all. Simply explaining the distinction between performance and martiality. Both are legitimate methods, but in situations like these, the line between them tends to blur for many people.
JinsukeHP 2 years ago
I have a feeling if he cracks you in the skull with the oar it will hurt, even if he doesn't do it as perfectly as you wish. I'd say he would defend himself just fine. Then again he only does karate and I don't know enough about his throwing or ground work.
Floridadreamer04 2 years ago
Well of course, but if all you can say for him is "It's an oar, it'll hurt no matter how good he is with it", then what does that say about him as a martial artist? Really, I mean it's not like he's the only one on earth to ever pick up a weapon. The fact that oars hurt doesn't excuse bad movement. I mean if that's your philosophy, just buy a gun. It'll save a lot of time and money.
JinsukeHP 2 years ago
nice kata,much better than all the batton twirling we see on you tube
wolvoboy 3 years ago
This is Shuguro no Kai, also called Shorinkan no Eiku. It was developed by Nakazato Shuguro, head of the Shorinkan. This rendition has wider stances and longer, more dramatic, pauses. Otherwise, the techniques look pretty much the same. I learned the kata from Kevin Roberts of the Shorinkan.
zenbaptist1 4 years ago
appears to be a kata from USKA style or put together from someone in America. It does not appear to be one of the traditional kata of Okinawa or Japan because the kamae are too long. Would do well probably in open tournaments for competition. Interesting moves.
bestdefense 5 years ago
It is a traditional kata with a little extra vocals for an open tournament. Yes he did deepen the stances a little since it is an Okinawain kobudo kata, but it is unchanged as far as the moves go.
renshilee 4 years ago
Wow, dont talk about what you dont know. I know that kata and it is almost exactly the way it is done traditionally.
senseiruthe 4 years ago
Not my style but I like it.
dawkinsfan41 5 years ago