I get 400x the vitamin C from my servings of sweet peppers each day, which do not poison the liver like fiber-removed juices that contain fructose unable to be metabolized by our cells. Just saying.
Josh, basing your judgments on clients and their success IS research. That's how Sigmund Freud and many of his followers did their research in psychoanalysis...if you don't mind the cigar... I mean the comparison...d'oh!!
I've heard the inner side of orange and lemon peel is extremely healthy (vit P) and is anti-cancerous. In fact the entire peel of each is in Dr Shulzes superfood. The benefits of the peel is here: goo.gl / TQWUr
Kind of hard to believe 90% of Vitamin C is lost (sometimes I hear it as 80%), if so we would all have died of scurvy a long time ago. And if so, to heck with eating right, I'm going to McDon's.
By what mechanism is cellulose inflammatory on its own? Is it just that our body doesn't know what to do with it and it causes a reaction for most? I just figured it was passed through.
Ruminant animals have a 4 chambered stomach and are the only ones that are able to break down cellulose. We as humans CANNOT break down cellulose and chitin, which are structural polysaccharides. It does not just pass through, it causes inflammation.
hey Josh. Cool Video, thanks! Could you please expand on the Vitamin C->increased iron-absorption subject? What´s the mechanism behind it and does it effect heme-iron and non-heme-iron differently?
@joshrubineastwest thanks josh! i know that coffee is a potential iron-absorption-inhibitor, but i´ve never understood the difference between heme-iron and non-heme-iron. i dont think all iron is equal. i think only non-.heme-iron is blocked by coffee. do you have any further links etc. to research?
Also, could a cellulase enzyme taken before eating fibrous fruits/veggies help with the inflammation problem? I ask because I am estrogen dominant/inflamed and I need to get a handle on the stress hormones, calcium, and inflammation. There's so many opposing theories out there. Are simple sugars optimum, sipped slowly, or should I be using complex carbohydrates like legumes intermittently?
Why have to take an enzyme, why not just eat foods that we can digest. If you are estroen dominant as you say, i would eliminate all PUFA's (above ground veggies) for certain, as they will inc estrogen, dec progest, but also have the same actions as estrogen in the body.
@joshrubineastwest Hard to argue with that first point. Thanks for the response, Josh. So as far as veggies are concerned, are the below ground variety the ONLY ones we should be consuming? Are there any other safe options, and according to Peat, fruit is a.ok correct?
Ray Peat's opinions on veggies have never sat well with me, not because I believe he is wrong, but because I love them so much and cannot intuitively see them as being bad for us. So consider the inflammatory nature of cellulose, how can we say to avoid fibrous vegetables like broccoli? Could steaming broccoli help to break down that outer cell wall? Should juiced vegetables be our only way to go? Or should we be avoiding them altogether?
Thats OK, we are all entitled, But Rays work is solely based on human physiology, biochemistry, etc, so it is hard to argue with that. i find most that do, just don't understand physiology. Yes we avoid all above ground veggies cause of cellulose and the unsaturated fat content in them, which block proteolytic enzyme, suppress the thyroid and immune system. Steaming does really nothing, plus it is estrogenic and damages hepatic cells.
Thanks...but according to webmd, etc yes that is what they say. But according to me and the results clients get i would have to disagree. Now I don't do research, but I base everything on clients and their success.
@dz1ncha As well, eating an orange is very inflammatory cause of the pulp containing cellulose, which humans CANNOT break down. So I would rather have someone juice it at home to eliminate the pulp and maybe not get as much Vit C (which we use OJ more for the Mg and Potassium), then eat and orange and cause gut problems. But thanks for the post, as we all learning something from each other.
If the pulp is completely dissolved in the orange juice, then how can it cause problems?
tyv06dqu 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I get 400x the vitamin C from my servings of sweet peppers each day, which do not poison the liver like fiber-removed juices that contain fructose unable to be metabolized by our cells. Just saying.
CoachTerp 2 weeks ago
Josh, basing your judgments on clients and their success IS research. That's how Sigmund Freud and many of his followers did their research in psychoanalysis...if you don't mind the cigar... I mean the comparison...d'oh!!
belovedideas 1 month ago 2
I've heard the inner side of orange and lemon peel is extremely healthy (vit P) and is anti-cancerous. In fact the entire peel of each is in Dr Shulzes superfood. The benefits of the peel is here: goo.gl / TQWUr
adrianwaj 1 month ago
Kind of hard to believe 90% of Vitamin C is lost (sometimes I hear it as 80%), if so we would all have died of scurvy a long time ago. And if so, to heck with eating right, I'm going to McDon's.
ShotDownInFlames2 1 month ago 2
By what mechanism is cellulose inflammatory on its own? Is it just that our body doesn't know what to do with it and it causes a reaction for most? I just figured it was passed through.
ihrmc 1 month ago
@ihrmc
Ruminant animals have a 4 chambered stomach and are the only ones that are able to break down cellulose. We as humans CANNOT break down cellulose and chitin, which are structural polysaccharides. It does not just pass through, it causes inflammation.
joshrubineastwest 1 month ago
hey Josh. Cool Video, thanks! Could you please expand on the Vitamin C->increased iron-absorption subject? What´s the mechanism behind it and does it effect heme-iron and non-heme-iron differently?
MrWelterk 1 month ago
@MrWelterk
Coffee actually if you drink it after a meal has been shown to decrease iron absorption. Vit C can actually inc iron absorption.
joshrubineastwest 1 month ago
@joshrubineastwest thanks josh! i know that coffee is a potential iron-absorption-inhibitor, but i´ve never understood the difference between heme-iron and non-heme-iron. i dont think all iron is equal. i think only non-.heme-iron is blocked by coffee. do you have any further links etc. to research?
MrWelterk 1 month ago
Dr Mercola is pretty good, I like his whey protein
LOLMAN22 1 month ago
Also, could a cellulase enzyme taken before eating fibrous fruits/veggies help with the inflammation problem? I ask because I am estrogen dominant/inflamed and I need to get a handle on the stress hormones, calcium, and inflammation. There's so many opposing theories out there. Are simple sugars optimum, sipped slowly, or should I be using complex carbohydrates like legumes intermittently?
spenc193 1 month ago
@spenc193
Why have to take an enzyme, why not just eat foods that we can digest. If you are estroen dominant as you say, i would eliminate all PUFA's (above ground veggies) for certain, as they will inc estrogen, dec progest, but also have the same actions as estrogen in the body.
joshrubineastwest 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@joshrubineastwest Hard to argue with that first point. Thanks for the response, Josh. So as far as veggies are concerned, are the below ground variety the ONLY ones we should be consuming? Are there any other safe options, and according to Peat, fruit is a.ok correct?
spenc193 1 month ago
Ray Peat's opinions on veggies have never sat well with me, not because I believe he is wrong, but because I love them so much and cannot intuitively see them as being bad for us. So consider the inflammatory nature of cellulose, how can we say to avoid fibrous vegetables like broccoli? Could steaming broccoli help to break down that outer cell wall? Should juiced vegetables be our only way to go? Or should we be avoiding them altogether?
spenc193 1 month ago
@spenc193
Thats OK, we are all entitled, But Rays work is solely based on human physiology, biochemistry, etc, so it is hard to argue with that. i find most that do, just don't understand physiology. Yes we avoid all above ground veggies cause of cellulose and the unsaturated fat content in them, which block proteolytic enzyme, suppress the thyroid and immune system. Steaming does really nothing, plus it is estrogenic and damages hepatic cells.
joshrubineastwest 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@joshrubineastwest I've started fermenting vegetables in the same way as sauerkraut. Would that make it better?
adrianwaj 1 month ago
90% of vitamin C is lost after 1 minute of juicing an orange.
dz1ncha 1 month ago
@dz1ncha
Thanks...but according to webmd, etc yes that is what they say. But according to me and the results clients get i would have to disagree. Now I don't do research, but I base everything on clients and their success.
joshrubineastwest 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@dz1ncha As well, eating an orange is very inflammatory cause of the pulp containing cellulose, which humans CANNOT break down. So I would rather have someone juice it at home to eliminate the pulp and maybe not get as much Vit C (which we use OJ more for the Mg and Potassium), then eat and orange and cause gut problems. But thanks for the post, as we all learning something from each other.
joshrubineastwest 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos