@Calibo123 Actually, nuclear winter is a scientific impossibility. Carl Sagan's model that concludes with nuclear winter stipulates an oceanless planet. It's the one truly black mark on Carl Sagan's otherwise blemishless and radiant career, something he obviously made up to help scare the Cold War powers from nuclear deterrence policies because he felt it would harm the long-term chances of his dreams of stellar exploration coming true. It doesn't mean nuclear war would be harmless, of course.
@TithonusSyndrome I'm not so sure it's an impossibility. If you consider the megaton power of some the ICBMs and if you hypothesize that they were fired back and forth, the clouds that would be pushed upwards could very well block a lot of sunlight.
@finaldeathshead No, it's absolutely impossible. Read my post again; the only way Sagan could ensure an extended period of artificial global winter in his simulations was if he eliminated all water, which acts as a thermal capacitor, and equalized all elevation differences like mountains or basins. Planet Earth is certainly in no shortage of major water bodies, mountains or basins.
@TithonusSyndrome I admire your intellect, sir. What you are saying is that if the human race were to be faced with global nuclear war - MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) - that after the initial blasts, radiation poisoning, and subsequent fallout, there would be no outstanding environmental impact? If so it seems to me a bit ill-advised to assume that the earth's temperature would change. I mean, many theories are logical until experimented on.
@finaldeathshead What effect do you think "radiation poisoning" has on the climate? Are you just throwing out effects of nuclear devices that have been stated in popular culture without knowing whether or not there's any actual scientific mechanism that allows them to impact the climate in any meaningful way? "Radiation" is a complete red herring to the issue of climate change, it's like hearing a car mechanic say they need to check my wipers if I have a braking problem; suspiciously irrelevant.
@TithonusSyndrome I'm not sure if your drunk or just dumb but a nuclear winter could be caused even by a low key india/pakistan war if they used their arsenal and the fact that the planet has oceans make the winds fast which circulates the cloud even more
@KrizpyKilla Considering that I'm the only person here with any background in the nuclear sciences, I'm afraid I don't find your unsupported claims very upsetting.
@TithonusSyndrome nuclear sciences have nothing to do with a nuclear winter nuclear scientists study things about how nuclear reactions work which has not one thing to do with the case of nuclear winter...now if you can back that up with a doctorate in meteorology and some firsthand experience on building and testing nuclear weapons i'd actually believe you for a while
@KrizpyKilla So you're going to respond to my criticism that your claims are utterly unfounded by... making more unfounded claims? Good move, slick. Too bad that you only have two feet to shoot yourself in.
Oh sooo sweet. The future holds nothing but hard struggle, pain and anguish - who can't be optimistic about that? <3
Irmingot 1 year ago 2
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pwrsstm 1 year ago
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OptimusPrimus001 2 years ago
@OptimusPrimus001 geht unter die Haut!!
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SirkLizarb 2 years ago 3
I love this song so much, it should be a wake up call for some people seeing as nuclear winter could really happen, but w/e, still a beastly song
Calibo123 2 years ago
@Calibo123 Actually, nuclear winter is a scientific impossibility. Carl Sagan's model that concludes with nuclear winter stipulates an oceanless planet. It's the one truly black mark on Carl Sagan's otherwise blemishless and radiant career, something he obviously made up to help scare the Cold War powers from nuclear deterrence policies because he felt it would harm the long-term chances of his dreams of stellar exploration coming true. It doesn't mean nuclear war would be harmless, of course.
TithonusSyndrome 1 year ago
@TithonusSyndrome I'm not so sure it's an impossibility. If you consider the megaton power of some the ICBMs and if you hypothesize that they were fired back and forth, the clouds that would be pushed upwards could very well block a lot of sunlight.
finaldeathshead 1 year ago
@finaldeathshead No, it's absolutely impossible. Read my post again; the only way Sagan could ensure an extended period of artificial global winter in his simulations was if he eliminated all water, which acts as a thermal capacitor, and equalized all elevation differences like mountains or basins. Planet Earth is certainly in no shortage of major water bodies, mountains or basins.
TithonusSyndrome 1 year ago
@TithonusSyndrome I admire your intellect, sir. What you are saying is that if the human race were to be faced with global nuclear war - MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) - that after the initial blasts, radiation poisoning, and subsequent fallout, there would be no outstanding environmental impact? If so it seems to me a bit ill-advised to assume that the earth's temperature would change. I mean, many theories are logical until experimented on.
finaldeathshead 1 year ago
@finaldeathshead Would NOT change*
finaldeathshead 1 year ago
@finaldeathshead What effect do you think "radiation poisoning" has on the climate? Are you just throwing out effects of nuclear devices that have been stated in popular culture without knowing whether or not there's any actual scientific mechanism that allows them to impact the climate in any meaningful way? "Radiation" is a complete red herring to the issue of climate change, it's like hearing a car mechanic say they need to check my wipers if I have a braking problem; suspiciously irrelevant.
TithonusSyndrome 1 year ago
@TithonusSyndrome I'm not sure if your drunk or just dumb but a nuclear winter could be caused even by a low key india/pakistan war if they used their arsenal and the fact that the planet has oceans make the winds fast which circulates the cloud even more
KrizpyKilla 2 months ago
@KrizpyKilla Considering that I'm the only person here with any background in the nuclear sciences, I'm afraid I don't find your unsupported claims very upsetting.
TithonusSyndrome 1 month ago
@TithonusSyndrome nuclear sciences have nothing to do with a nuclear winter nuclear scientists study things about how nuclear reactions work which has not one thing to do with the case of nuclear winter...now if you can back that up with a doctorate in meteorology and some firsthand experience on building and testing nuclear weapons i'd actually believe you for a while
KrizpyKilla 1 month ago
@KrizpyKilla So you're going to respond to my criticism that your claims are utterly unfounded by... making more unfounded claims? Good move, slick. Too bad that you only have two feet to shoot yourself in.
TithonusSyndrome 5 days ago