kata seisan

[mysinger4life]

Is this at an annual Shiai?

I'm a Ni-Kyu in Isshinryu Karate, but it is interesting to see people do Seisan differently than I do in my dojo.

[ShotokanBleach]

@mysinger4life congratz im an ei-kyu in shotokan karate, the one with the most different katas than the other styles of karate lol. Its hard to see any similarities in any of my katas except for a couple such as The Heians/Pinans or Basai dai/ Pasai or Kwanku Dai/ Kushonku.

[yuggsoth]

This doesn't even look like the Seisan Kata to me.

[mysinger4life]

@yuggsoth I thinkit's Sunsu.

[Israfel88]

@yuggsoth There are actually two different katas with the same name.Confusing I know:)

[ronin752]

@yuggsoth

It does, there is a Naha, or Goju Seisan and a Shuri, or Shorin Seisan. There are similarities, but lots of differences as well.

[MrTezzerettheseeker]

No, no. this is ryouki abe.

[RafaelPinto]

@MrTezzerettheseeker

For sure he is!!!

[brasshandmartialarts]

Hmmm I believe this is Morio Higaonna's Son.

[aiko4321]

No, this is not Higaonna Sensei. This person is good, but his kata is more sporty, where Higaonna Senseis' kata is more traditional.

[brasshandmartialarts]

This isn't Eric Higaonna, really?...hmmm...

[aiko4321]

Yes. I too think this is Eric Higaonna Sensei, son of Higaonna Morio Sensei.

[lgfu8x]

He's Ryoke Abe, former kata world champion.

[brasshandmartialarts]

ohhhh ok, thank you!

[Goju1990]

one of the best ...i hope that one day i will be better then him in kata :D

nice

[GojuBob]

Superb performance! I wonder why Seisan has only right-leg kicks, though? Sanseiryu is the same. This asymmetry is something I've never understood. Anybody know?

[edschmid123]

That's extremely different from the seisan kata I'm learning... I'm guessing there are different versions? Not to say he didn't do well (although I'm not experienced enough to judge anyway). He just confused me...

[talon115]

Do yourself a favor and drop out of your karate class. Take some boxing and wrestling and in 6 months you will be able to wipe the floor with your karate teacher!

[edschmid123]

I think somebody with a couple decades of experience in karate would destroy somebody who just boxes and wrestles, let alone somebody who started only 6 months ago.

Besides, I'm not taking karate because I think I'm going to be some sparring champion. The cool stuff to learn is the stuff you never use in a match - the things they don't teach just anybody. With that stuff, I don't care if you're fighting Muhammed Ali, he's going down. Hard.

[talon115]

You have watched waaayyyy to many movies. But good luck anyway.

[edschmid123]

The difference between real life and movies isn't that karate doesn't work. The difference is that it doesn't look pretty. I'm sure most people would agree with me on that one.

[ShotokanBleach]

@edschmid123 very very very true, a karate-ka that has only been practicing for 5 years, diligently, could easily take any UFC or MMA fighter

[FallenwoodFB]

me to lol

[STAG162]

there are a lot of different versions of this kata, as with all kata; some katas don't even exist in some styles of karate for whatever reason, it's usually not taken from that karate's base-style if it isn't included or studied. I'm currently learning this kata for my 3rd deg. grading.

[brasshandmartialarts]

are you isshinryu?

[horizondrummer]

this was an excellent performance and execution of seisan. i am a 5th dan in isshinryu and have been studying isshinryu for 15yrs now. excellent form

[sdrawkcabnam]

that was pretty cool...i learned a much simpler version of that...

[Damian1975]

such bullshit..fancy bullshit dance moves..

[CarNikolaj]

That's because they are grappling moves, my friend...done in the air they really look silly.

[pandakiller1992]

Very nice.

[senseimak]

great stuff

[shodanlynch]

this kata looks like a combination of isshin-ryu's Seisan and Sunsu. Looks nice but like i said first time i've seen it done that way

[TonyNhollywood]

All you haters man! That kata, reguardless of difficulty level, WAS AMAZING! His Mitsuke, delivery of power and timing was unreal! Too many martial artist all too often, forget about the importance of self expression in ones kata.

[thensho]

thats right if you know karate yourself you can see the meaning of these technics.

he preformed an amezing kata.

[brink01]

oh and by the way he this is a goju ryu variation of saisan. and sorry bout my typos

[brink01]

guys guys. whats the fuzz all about? this is ryouki abe an kata worl competitor your talking about. he is an all japan karate individual kata champion for several times he was also a wkf champion. this kata performed was in tokui form. meaning any variation and any speed of the delivery and timing performed is allowed. all international rules have that. and i think all japanese national team performe this kata in this way

[julianthacker]

yes this go-ju ryu I believe. And

flawless IMHO.

[julianthacker]

you know nothing. you should go home and hide

under the bed.

[aiyer1989]

Of course he's allowed to do that kata.

The kata was executed very well. Power, kimé,zanchin...a good kata.

[pg86]

WOAH WHAT VERSION OF SEISAN IS THIS!! OMG he WAS ALLOWED TO DO THAT KATA AS A BLACK BELT!? I was told we couldn't use that in a traditional tournament after we promoted past purple!

[fruggine]

OS! maybe you play a different style of karate.

this is the original go-ju ryu from tokyo.

my sensei in rome learn directly in japan that style...

where you come from? thank you, OS!

[Pecherin72]

In Okinawan Goju-ryu Seisan happens to be considered a really difficult kata second only to suparinpei. In IOGKF only 3 Dan and above are expected to do this kata properly.

[pg86]

I do a style called Seiekan but we do alot of kata's from Goju-ryu and Shotokan..

In any case though I have never ever seen this version of seisan...I would love to do this in competition.