just say these guys unpluged on tv... my goodness, where have they been my entire like ... INTSANT FAN... gonna buy some of their jams asap.. LOVE, LOVE THIS SONG.
I like this song, but after the watching the video, i couldn't stop laughing for minutes. it's the drummer that got me laughing, reminded me of when animal (the muppet) would drum. lmao. still a good song though, and other than seein the drummer pull his own muppet show, the video was alright. a better editor would have made it better.
I like this song, but after the watching the video, i couldn't stop laughing for minutes. it's the drummer that got me laughing, reminded me of when animal (the muppet) would drum. lmao. still a good song though, and other than seein the drummer pull his own muppet show, the video was alright. a better editor would have made it better.
Only 100,000 views in 2 years? Proof that most people have no taste in music beyond what is jammed down their ears by mainstream radio. Silversun Pickups are one of the most underrated bands out there right now. Can't wait for the new album! Swoon was a huge step forward from Carnavas, I give it a 9.0/10
@MDomi ich könnte mir persönlich keine bessere stimme vorstellen..vorallem weil das ganze zweistimmig gesungen ist und die frauenstimme im hintergrund das alles noch ein wenig abrundet ;)
3-23-10 DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THEY WERE NOMINATED 4 ANY AWARD i.e. 'GRAMMIES? 'CHECK the lighting out on this 'Vid'..Amazing!! KUDOS 2 the Lighting Crew, & the Sound & Cameramen CREW!! =D Whoever DIRECTED this deserves an AWARD!!...(Grammy) & then Whoever did the EDITING..Spectacular! Love ALL the 'Closeup fast clips of the face and hands on each instrument. MAN do U have a talent 4 Editing! It's very
'Psychedelic'...reminisent of THE BEATLES & ' SGT. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band.'
What`s funny is all the little bitches on here negged me for my opinion and observation, What` s the matter kids did Daddy not hug you enough as a child...lol
Grow up and get a life there is going to be people in your life that have an opinion other than yours, Get used to it.
"And I'll try to hold on tight tonight. Pink slip, inviting me inside. i want to burn skin and brand what was mine, but the red news came ripping into fight. I f i go anywhere that you want me to go, How will i know you will still follow?"
1-12-10 This singer is Brilliant & the band. Exceptional video. To those wondering if he is really singing.."The Jig Is Up..."OF COURSE HE IS...he's NOT a whiny singer. It's his STYLE of his vocals. That made this video ALONG with the KICKASS BASSLINE in HARMONY with the GUITAR!! ANYONE WANTS TO SEE AN MTV UNPLUGGED VERSION...@ my CH. OR go 2 DJGreenleaf. That's where I found it at. THERE IS A VAST difference between the VIDEO released & the MTV with 3 violins! HE WAILS MID WAY. AMAZING !
i love this song. i bought the cd the first day it came out and knew panic switch would be a gem. i put it on a mixtape for my friends. they love it too
idiot, people make mixes on cds but for some reason, they are still called mixtapes. dont believe me? go to their website, or type in "dangerbird, mixtape" on google. dont ask me, i am not the person who made up these terms.
Woah, calm down. I was adding to your comment about trying to make a cassette tape from a computer! Just saying that if you can (I'm sure there's probably a way but I haven't heard of it), would anyone even use a cassette tape? How does that make me an idiot?
the way you said it. if it angered you, sorry, but hey. thats just part of our vocab now man. it would be pretty weird and funny if someone said, dude, i made you a mixtape which is a cd?!?!!? thats just how it is. sorry if i angered you too.
All right, all right I'll give you that one. But for the majority of people who'll settle for less for the sake of speed, simplicity, availability, whatever... you're not likely to receive an overwhelming amount of gratitude when you give 'average Joe' a record when he has no record player to play it. Know what I mean?
You are the only one then. If you knew nothing about them like me and never saw a picture or anything. You would really never think he was a chick? I find that hard to beleave.
Ok dont get me wrong I love this song but. What the hell is with the singer of this band. I just searched and it seems as far as I can tell with what I found that the guy is the singer. Did somone stomp on his balls or somthing. Like I said I like a few of there songs but untill I searched this video I never would have guessed it was a guy sining. I have to see them live to fully beleave it is him sining. Anyone seen them live who can tell me lol?
12-19-09 Brilliant !! I love this band. Very well done video. Good Directing. 1st saw on FUSE videos here in U.S. & the video here is different. Both are well done.
the band has a good sound, & the singer has great vocals.
this song is so amazing it's almost painful. i fully connect with this song..and it's been on repeat for days now. ahh so good. all their songs are. :D
i interpret this song as singing about anxiety problems or nervous breakdowns. there is speculation that it's talking about the music biz too, i can also see that in it as well. i struggle with anxiety so i connect with it that way. when he mentions being in crowded rooms, i understand that, because i often freak out in crowded areas.
that's just from my interpretation of the lyrics. but i connect with the intensity in this song more than anything. i can feel it flowing throughout my body.
I've never heard of this band before seeing the video for the acoustic version of this song on Paladia. Awesome song, cool band. The acoustic version is much better.
the song is about anxiety...what they're saying is how could people go to sleep every night when there's so much turmoil in the the world...do they have some sort of switch to turn the panic off before they go to sleep?
It's the guy singing. My best guess is that the song is something about a breakup and its associated feelings. That's what most of Swoon's songs are about to me.
people need to stop comparing brian to billy corgan,corgan is much whinier and brian has full control of his whisper-like singing voice,not just that he can hold a scream.
The video looks like something Prodigy would do. Like the bass and the drums, but I'd be more interested to hear the singer when he isn't channelling Billy Corgin.
Exactly what I was thinking. Reminds of some Smashing Pumpkins. Got that cool rock and funk feel to it,havnt heard good music in this genre for a long time.
A HOT sound, reminds me of the old Smashing Pumpkins energy, woke up with it running thru my head...hope when they get the big contract it doesn't all turn to shit :/
astounding how you completely changed your sound, yet rock just as hard. that other guy is right "refreshing" probably the best compliment a band can get nowadays
Great song. I heard it for the first time this morning on Edge 102. it's refreshing to hear something that doesn't sound like a copy of Theory of a Nickelback and all those shitty bands..
I swear until I saw this video that this song was sung by a lady! Nice song & video. Chris is awesome on the drums, Love that High Crash cymbal and Nikki is just so Sexy.
This song was my introduction to you and I must say it ROCKS! I'm looking forward to getting the rest of your music. Good job on the music and video :)
great song and video! ♥
solarwindsnoo 1 month ago
I heard this song on the radio. I rarely listen to the radio. I was pretty happy that it hooked me up with something great to listen to. Thanx radio.
lapseofmind 1 month ago
You guys really do rock, Id really like a HD version of your performance on Letterman. Best performance IMO to date. Awsome
TheTsiChris 3 months ago
I heard this on the radio and just had to hear that awesome bass again. I swear, she must have 17 fingers!
DrCreosote 3 months ago
Love the band, but the drummer looks like "Animal" from the Muppets. (heh)
keldog7 3 months ago
work=7 hours
*silversun pickups - panic switch*
work=7 minutes
Apachey27 5 months ago
Can't fall asleep without panic switch.
epidyx 6 months ago in playlist 流行樂 - 西洋
love it, love it, love it!
tommih27 6 months ago
This is AWESOME!
epidyx 6 months ago
NOW THAT IS A "HIGH HAT".....LOVE IT!!
80smusicman 8 months ago
just say these guys unpluged on tv... my goodness, where have they been my entire like ... INTSANT FAN... gonna buy some of their jams asap.. LOVE, LOVE THIS SONG.
cameronavett 9 months ago
so awesome!
lookather2010 10 months ago
SUCKER PUNCH
rinleez 10 months ago 2
I don't mean to be rude but I always assumed there was a girl singing :D Really love this song it's amazing!
Blacklady1995 10 months ago
@Blacklady1995 Ever heard of Coheed and Cambria? You'll get the same sensation.
brianofearth 10 months ago
@brianofearth Haha you're right :D
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I like this song, but after the watching the video, i couldn't stop laughing for minutes. it's the drummer that got me laughing, reminded me of when animal (the muppet) would drum. lmao. still a good song though, and other than seein the drummer pull his own muppet show, the video was alright. a better editor would have made it better.
jdwyer4420 11 months ago
I like this song, but after the watching the video, i couldn't stop laughing for minutes. it's the drummer that got me laughing, reminded me of when animal (the muppet) would drum. lmao. still a good song though, and other than seein the drummer pull his own muppet show, the video was alright. a better editor would have made it better.
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Rob5tanley 11 months ago
@jdwyer4420 lmao that someone thought of Animal from the muppets when seeing the drummer :)
Rob5tanley 11 months ago 2
this is the trailer track for #suckerpunch movie.
lynkonline 11 months ago
Only 100,000 views in 2 years? Proof that most people have no taste in music beyond what is jammed down their ears by mainstream radio. Silversun Pickups are one of the most underrated bands out there right now. Can't wait for the new album! Swoon was a huge step forward from Carnavas, I give it a 9.0/10
brillfart 11 months ago
love,love,love this!
chromecuty 11 months ago
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why are they so good?
samgolz1 1 year ago
i love the way the guy plays the drums!
MickAge001 1 year ago
OMFG wie geil xD <3 <3
Vaseliene 1 year ago
thumbs up if Sucker Punch brought you here
peterpahn123 1 year ago 4
I love a song that can make feel glad to be sad. Fkn sweet song!
samjr33 1 year ago
this is the first song ive ever heard of them and i immediately fell in love with their sound!!!
Simonstown28 1 year ago
drummer has the same style as animal from the muppets
GuitarZeroo 1 year ago 11
one of there best songs ever :) i saw them live last year in glasgow they were awsome :)
cardowan1 1 year ago
<3333333 omg i love them
Angelique1307 1 year ago
new age hippie music kinda. but more modern and jazzy.
pridekitty 1 year ago 2
Bass line is crazy!!! The album is amazing too!!! Big Tune!!!
kewlbassplayer 1 year ago
I really like this song, especially the bass line, but in this video, the drummer takes the cake. He looks like he's just having a ball!
Kinda reminds me of Animal from the Muppets!!
Asstricks 1 year ago 4
@Asstricks ahaha that muppet comment made me laugh, i can see it too haha
unforgiven666x 1 year ago
i knew them before gnt!
jadore286 1 year ago
Can someone say " I am up in the clouds, I am up in the clouds and I can't come down." .............yeah.
4peluchita 1 year ago
EPICNESS!!!!!!
LoveisForever1998 1 year ago
6 people missed the like button :/
weesna 1 year ago 3
@BluesMaddy
Silversun Pickups played at the 'Germany's next topmodel' final this year, so they got a little bit famous in here ;)
SilentKairyu 1 year ago
So Hammer ..... einfach nur geil!!!!!!
Cheyenne31101995 1 year ago
What's with all the Germans?
BluesMaddy 1 year ago
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So ein geiler Song und dann kommt die Stimme. Urgs. Selten einen Sänger gesehen der so einen Song versaut.
MDomi 1 year ago
@MDomi ich könnte mir persönlich keine bessere stimme vorstellen..vorallem weil das ganze zweistimmig gesungen ist und die frauenstimme im hintergrund das alles noch ein wenig abrundet ;)
metallicahoerer 1 year ago
I really really love it!
Lene511 1 year ago
ohrwurm ^.^einer der guten xD..
der drummer is hamma.. geht einfach total ab x3
XklecksmonstaaX 1 year ago
sher geil:)
Biber3105 1 year ago
einfach genial
engelchen728 1 year ago
saucool!!!!
Melle977 1 year ago
ich liebe den song seit Heidi ihn gebracht hat
1997Nanni 1 year ago
really cool
19niggo98 1 year ago 2
I LOVE THIS SONG!
Roonster78 1 year ago 2
its the best for ever i am looking by germanys next topmodel
shayanskate97 1 year ago
drummer rockz
paxRockz 1 year ago
the best song
Jooooooolachen 1 year ago
Great song
IUse2haveALife 1 year ago
I like the studio performance they did of this song on VH1 or MTV, I can't remember.
MrMoneyclips 1 year ago
Just discovered you guys last night -YOU ARE AWESOME. Come back to NY! I missed you in March!
InuGrrrl 1 year ago
3-23-10 DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THEY WERE NOMINATED 4 ANY AWARD i.e. 'GRAMMIES? 'CHECK the lighting out on this 'Vid'..Amazing!! KUDOS 2 the Lighting Crew, & the Sound & Cameramen CREW!! =D Whoever DIRECTED this deserves an AWARD!!...(Grammy) & then Whoever did the EDITING..Spectacular! Love ALL the 'Closeup fast clips of the face and hands on each instrument. MAN do U have a talent 4 Editing! It's very
'Psychedelic'...reminisent of THE BEATLES & ' SGT. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band.'
TheFOOfighterFREAK 1 year ago
he's got a little billy corgan to his singing
HighNflY 2 years ago
I agree I think he has a lot of Billy Corgan to his vlice good call :)
deeperwaterz 1 year ago
What`s funny is all the little bitches on here negged me for my opinion and observation, What` s the matter kids did Daddy not hug you enough as a child...lol
Grow up and get a life there is going to be people in your life that have an opinion other than yours, Get used to it.
deeperwaterz 2 years ago
"And I'll try to hold on tight tonight. Pink slip, inviting me inside. i want to burn skin and brand what was mine, but the red news came ripping into fight. I f i go anywhere that you want me to go, How will i know you will still follow?"
EUREKACRUX 2 years ago 3
1-12-10 This singer is Brilliant & the band. Exceptional video. To those wondering if he is really singing.."The Jig Is Up..."OF COURSE HE IS...he's NOT a whiny singer. It's his STYLE of his vocals. That made this video ALONG with the KICKASS BASSLINE in HARMONY with the GUITAR!! ANYONE WANTS TO SEE AN MTV UNPLUGGED VERSION...@ my CH. OR go 2 DJGreenleaf. That's where I found it at. THERE IS A VAST difference between the VIDEO released & the MTV with 3 violins! HE WAILS MID WAY. AMAZING !
TheFOOfighterFREAK 2 years ago 2
The bass line is amazing she is ripping it up.
deeperwaterz 2 years ago 40
@TheFOOfighterFREAK thats what im talkin about! :D
tutorials7000 1 year ago
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Fuck you all faggots for apologizing to each other. This is the mother fucking internet! Don't take it seriously, AIDS infested cum bubbles.
FUCK YOU ALL
AstrumSol 2 years ago
This video is worth the time..
Introspection79 2 years ago 4
and is it me, or does the drummer drumming away look like animal from the muppets!
mrzero1982 2 years ago 2
Lol wow he does kinda. Well a strange but good band.
Opethfan79 2 years ago
@mrzero1982 ha so does the drummer from fall out boy
bittersweetsaraX 2 years ago
i love this song. i bought the cd the first day it came out and knew panic switch would be a gem. i put it on a mixtape for my friends. they love it too
mrzero1982 2 years ago 2
@mrzero1982: Mixtape? What is this? '95?
TheBrownkid123 2 years ago
HAAHA you know what i meant!!!!! i burn cds for my friends with just a mix of songs! plus... is it even possible to record to tape from a computer?
mrzero1982 2 years ago
Not only that but does anyone even use cassette tapes anymore? They're as obsolete as records nowadays!
angelwings1086 2 years ago
idiot, people make mixes on cds but for some reason, they are still called mixtapes. dont believe me? go to their website, or type in "dangerbird, mixtape" on google. dont ask me, i am not the person who made up these terms.
mrzero1982 2 years ago
Woah, calm down. I was adding to your comment about trying to make a cassette tape from a computer! Just saying that if you can (I'm sure there's probably a way but I haven't heard of it), would anyone even use a cassette tape? How does that make me an idiot?
angelwings1086 2 years ago
the way you said it. if it angered you, sorry, but hey. thats just part of our vocab now man. it would be pretty weird and funny if someone said, dude, i made you a mixtape which is a cd?!?!!? thats just how it is. sorry if i angered you too.
mrzero1982 2 years ago
Wasn't angry, just explaining myself. I know what you mean. ^_~
angelwings1086 2 years ago
records obsolete??? Not if you're a music lover...
vene777 2 years ago 30
i agree. i love some vinyl on a turntable. kicks
mrzero1982 2 years ago 4
All right, all right I'll give you that one. But for the majority of people who'll settle for less for the sake of speed, simplicity, availability, whatever... you're not likely to receive an overwhelming amount of gratitude when you give 'average Joe' a record when he has no record player to play it. Know what I mean?
angelwings1086 2 years ago
their label says differently. just go and type in dangerbird, and mixtape on google
mrzero1982 2 years ago
i really never thought he was a chick
tavo0987 2 years ago 2
You are the only one then. If you knew nothing about them like me and never saw a picture or anything. You would really never think he was a chick? I find that hard to beleave.
Opethfan79 2 years ago
I have seen them he is a weird one for sure creepy and cross eyed but, He has an interesting voice like so many famous musicians.
deeperwaterz 2 years ago
Ok dont get me wrong I love this song but. What the hell is with the singer of this band. I just searched and it seems as far as I can tell with what I found that the guy is the singer. Did somone stomp on his balls or somthing. Like I said I like a few of there songs but untill I searched this video I never would have guessed it was a guy sining. I have to see them live to fully beleave it is him sining. Anyone seen them live who can tell me lol?
Opethfan79 2 years ago
Ever heard of Circa Survive?
milesxofxhope 2 years ago
Nope who are they?
Opethfan79 2 years ago
I`ve seen them live many times he is the singer who else would be doing it...lol
I can`t imagine this band faking it or lip synching
deeperwaterz 2 years ago
12-19-09 Brilliant !! I love this band. Very well done video. Good Directing. 1st saw on FUSE videos here in U.S. & the video here is different. Both are well done.
the band has a good sound, & the singer has great vocals.
TheFOOfighterFREAK 2 years ago
The intensity of this song is great live!
rushfan14 2 years ago 2
this song is so amazing it's almost painful. i fully connect with this song..and it's been on repeat for days now. ahh so good. all their songs are. :D
eternallymusical 2 years ago
@eternallymusical how exacly do you connect? i personally dont understand a dam word of it
Magicz89 2 years ago
i interpret this song as singing about anxiety problems or nervous breakdowns. there is speculation that it's talking about the music biz too, i can also see that in it as well. i struggle with anxiety so i connect with it that way. when he mentions being in crowded rooms, i understand that, because i often freak out in crowded areas.
that's just from my interpretation of the lyrics. but i connect with the intensity in this song more than anything. i can feel it flowing throughout my body.
eternallymusical 2 years ago
saw them last night and they were good !! :)
flowersofJapan 2 years ago
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LiveLoveMusix095 2 years ago
I've never heard of this band before seeing the video for the acoustic version of this song on Paladia. Awesome song, cool band. The acoustic version is much better.
bkedp 2 years ago
Gee whiz! This guys are soooo good! I wish i knew some of your other good songs!
godtheonyt 2 years ago
not a chick. huh??
necuntlips 2 years ago
@necuntlips
I know, right? It's freaking me out a little.
OwMyBrains 2 years ago
Yeah, think you're right about the anxiety. The guitar gives this song a very tense feel at some parts.
UnitedSovietParty 2 years ago
Is it just me, or does Brian seem weird when he's not using his Epiphone?
dasutin 2 years ago
the song is about anxiety...what they're saying is how could people go to sleep every night when there's so much turmoil in the the world...do they have some sort of switch to turn the panic off before they go to sleep?
SalMammanaBrooklyn 2 years ago 4
It's the guy singing. My best guess is that the song is something about a breakup and its associated feelings. That's what most of Swoon's songs are about to me.
mavrikp23 2 years ago
!!! GREAT SONG !!! but is she singing or is that his voice? by the way is this about domestic violence? just wondering...
diggdoug909 2 years ago
im learning to play this on bass. its kickass!
NapolianDynamite288 2 years ago
fucking boss
sperdoch 2 years ago
my new fav song
bublegvsmefever 2 years ago
I don't know about smashing pumpkins, but i'm always getting a Placebo influence. Regardless great music.
Cuda043 2 years ago
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Really like this song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bgoodman26 2 years ago
Cutting edge. Fresh.
ysonyou 2 years ago
The drummer reminds my of (ANIMAL)from the muppets!!HAHA
old12school3 2 years ago 3
Chris dosn't stop headbanging thru the whole song. He has to be a bit dizzy after such a feat.
0zaine0 2 years ago
That drummer is cool multicolored blur of an image pounding out a driving rain of rhythm...
blucinemafilms 2 years ago 3
people need to stop comparing brian to billy corgan,corgan is much whinier and brian has full control of his whisper-like singing voice,not just that he can hold a scream.
TheCommonReactor1 2 years ago
One of their best songs....
kxsteve 2 years ago
THE DRUMMER MAKES THIS VIDEO!
AisforAdam1 2 years ago
uhm, the drumer is Christopher Guanlao. The director is James Frost.
tehguitarfreak 2 years ago
indeed
123Mikki123 2 years ago
Billy corgin is a whiny turd. No comparison.
misterleg 2 years ago
I can see the comparison in style, but only vaguely in terms of voice.
I much prefer this over billy's groan.
anonymous9067 2 years ago
The video looks like something Prodigy would do. Like the bass and the drums, but I'd be more interested to hear the singer when he isn't channelling Billy Corgin.
OmegamattShadowstar 2 years ago
the singer reminds me of josh klinghoffer
davegrohlisgod1121 2 years ago
this song has been running in my head since I first heard it...awesome song and video...Looooooove it!!!!!!
tigerlilyify 2 years ago
Exactly what I was thinking. Reminds of some Smashing Pumpkins. Got that cool rock and funk feel to it,havnt heard good music in this genre for a long time.
DFURY09 2 years ago 2
anyone knows what's gonna be the 2nd single of Swoon?
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I am really starting to like this Band a lot. They are very good and this is a great song.
Argh525 2 years ago 2
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Argh525 2 years ago
the drummers so into it.
and its hard to not pay attention to him
Deasiasorous 2 years ago 3
Silversun Pickups are the new Smashing Pumpkins!!
AceOfJon 2 years ago 3
A HOT sound, reminds me of the old Smashing Pumpkins energy, woke up with it running thru my head...hope when they get the big contract it doesn't all turn to shit :/
bunnysick 2 years ago 4
reminded me of pumpkins as well. great stuff.
cspcyfen 2 years ago
That drummer looks like he's having so much fun. I need some more hair!
rinabell06 2 years ago
Agreed. Mr drummer person.... keep rocking out!
elusivEuphoria 2 years ago
Silversun pickups are awesome. Probably my favorite band of all time.
electrictape22 2 years ago
astounding how you completely changed your sound, yet rock just as hard. that other guy is right "refreshing" probably the best compliment a band can get nowadays
AirAssaultSapper 2 years ago
epic.
just pure awesome.
IYHproductions 2 years ago
Great song. I heard it for the first time this morning on Edge 102. it's refreshing to hear something that doesn't sound like a copy of Theory of a Nickelback and all those shitty bands..
douchebagmoore 2 years ago 4
Instead they sound like a copy of Smashing Pumpkins. Nothing wrong with that though, nothing at all.
rinabell06 2 years ago
astounding
snowjeanfr 2 years ago
awesome
panchojlc 2 years ago
not my favorite sspu video, but I think that Swoon is their best album yet! This band is so powerful.
FarmersSpirit 2 years ago
i agree. swoon is really good. i also wish their videos were a little better :/
ergo9317 2 years ago
I swear until I saw this video that this song was sung by a lady! Nice song & video. Chris is awesome on the drums, Love that High Crash cymbal and Nikki is just so Sexy.
Splodat 2 years ago
Brian, you are a babe.
HarkWhoGoesThere 2 years ago
Dig the song, Really digging the bass on this one. Rock on.
joeprogo 2 years ago
you guys slay so hard.
nes2989 2 years ago
This song was my introduction to you and I must say it ROCKS! I'm looking forward to getting the rest of your music. Good job on the music and video :)
derectous 2 years ago
You're soooo good
superchilangopunk 2 years ago
Nikki, you are a babe.
stewardo 2 years ago
waiting, fading, floating away
god i love this song and the video is amazing
orehratiug14 2 years ago
I'm glad I could find it.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you for releasing the best album of 2009 thus far.
nickypalumbs 2 years ago
Very nice!
CHRISLARA1985 2 years ago
im
w8ing
xoJSeAxo 2 years ago
Nice Vid AND song! GREAT job guys!
takmat70 2 years ago