This shit movie can't stop pimping Dawkins, who is in neither the movie or this trailer. This movie blows. I expected this movie would present more of a case than it did. It didn't even make a case at all. Very sloppy and stupid crap.
I'm sick & tired of extremists of all types. There's no difference between Al Queda & Fundamantalist Christian Extremeists.
Hey, we were created with a brain. To not use that brain, to follow someone because they threaten you with their verson of God, is NOT using your God given gift of a brain.
There are sins against other people, but not using the most complex & intricate thing ever known to all humanity, well, that's just retarded, & perhaps the only true sin against our creator.
The existence of the man Jesus Christ is and has been one of the most accepted accounts by even secular/atheist historians. His divinity is what has always been in question. The emergence of the "Christ myth" is an occurrence of the late 19th century and a product of pseudo-historians whom have been debunked time and time again.
If I were to say that I was your savior and without me there wasn't salvation. And you might laugh at me. But if you don't except me into your heart god will disown you. Jesus isn't real but I am.
There's nothing wrong with being a pervert, I am one due to the fact that I tend to lust at hot girls, it's just one of evolution's naturale way, you fundementalists need to chill out and stop being so paranoid
The myth said that Jesus was the son of God, much the same as it was said that Hercules was the son of Zeus, so they were 2 gods that were said to have had sons
If Jesus didnt exist , why did his enemies write about him in (THE TALMUD) and claim he was a fraud and much worse. why bother why not just say he ddnt exist.
I think the arguement that a man called jesus of Nazereth didnt exist is a non starter ,no one writes books attacking the tooth fairy trying to damage her reputation.
The question is was he who the bible claims he was.
Some of you didn't get the memo-------god is dead and no one care's. When jesus says that people will turn away from him he is merely stating that his myth will end and another one will replace him.
Jesus's disciples was supposed to be the same number of tribes in Israel , 12 , which coincidentally was the same number of disciples that Krishna had.
But his disciples were based off of the tribes , which were twelve , which has nothing to do with hinduism.
Jesus had to die for the sins of mankind , just like the lamb died for the people on passover so that they wouldn't die.
In Jewish law , they weren't allowed to kill Jesus , but the romans could do it.
Today, we humans, know that the stuff Jesus did can not happen in the world we live in. I just can't understand how people actually believe all this Bible and god-thing.
In greek mythology Hercules was driven insane by Hera and he killed his wife and children and then himself by burning himself with fire. Later he was resurrected from the dead by Zeus or something. So stories of coming back from the dead aren't all new. Though in recent times its claimed some people believe Hitler, JFK , Elvis, and Michael Jackson are still alive.
I think you are refering to mithras when you are state the word "Paganism". But they are not refering to the prophecies, they are refering to the simialarities between mithras and jesus. When converting pagans the christian church would incorporate their rituals into the christian faith. Christmas is one tradition that we trace back to paganism. Almost anything in christianity can be traced back. Now they are stating that Jesus was the sone of a roman soldier.
Prophecies? What prophecies? There are no prophecies in the Old Testament. What you think are prophecies are only mistranslations coupled with fanciful thinking.
I'm very sorry to burst your eternal-life bubble, but some of these figures who so closely resemble Jesus, such as Mithras, are thousands of years older than Judaism itself. So really, it's Jews who plagiarized the Pagans. Even The Father, Yahweh, is a plagiarism of ancient Sumerian Pagan Gods like Enki (who just so happened to be involved in a worldwide flood and got a sinless man named Atrahasis build an arc).
You should try and enjoy reality before it's taken from you by time.
Sorry, I can't familiarize myself with any myths , but I did see a documentary where in a person talks about myths that came after Judaism , and they sound a lot like Jesus.
The Mithras myth , even though it sounded like Jesus's story , had nothing to do with the passover of Moses and the lamb that they sacrificed on passover.
You see , Jesus's fulfilled prophecies were based off of some main stories of the old testament , such as the twelve tribes of israel , lambs , passover , etc..
I find it dishonest and arrogant that you come here and make claims about what you know little or nothing about. I also think the arrogance devalues the better-informed opinions of others who have actually put much more effort into extensive research on the deities you talk about. That annoys me.
Mithras predates Judaism by almost half a millenium, and much of the Torah was stolen and copied from many other Pagan Gods. Even Yahweh is plagiarized from various Sumerian Pagan Gods.
Judaism copies Sumerian Paganism extensively. One of the most obvious plagiarisms is when the Gods flood the world because it is full of sin, but the God Enki warns a righteous man telling him to build an Ark and gather his family and animals on it.
Another one is when Hammurabi goes to the top of a mountain and receives the commandments of the Sun God written on stone tablets.
The hebrew people may have become secluded later by Abraham, but they originated from Sumeria (Babylon/Mesopotamia).
Not talking to or affiliating with unholy people? Following and being secluded by a man who claims to be the only true messenger of God? Kind of sounds like a cult, doesn't it?
About 60% of the movie was good. That would be the timeline, the God comparisons, the interviews and the music. The rest was some boring kid whining about his bad experience with Christianity. It's still worth a look though.
The end isn't boring to those with a similar background. Millions of kids across the country are tormented with threats of hell, and raised to believe it as absolute truth. These kids, and especially those who attend or attended a Christian school, would not find the rest boring at all. I really enjoyed it. Especially the interview with the principal.
When jesus rose from the dead...why was there a stone moved from the cave jesus was put in? did he move the stone? i thought spirits move through walls and objects.
It seems both sides are showing their ugly side. Before we believe in anything, we are of the same species. Don't forget that.
I have researched evidence for Jesus ever living, and I have found absolutely nothing. When I started searching for a more grounded truth in my (no longer existent) faith, I realized that Christianity is so remarkably fabricated and even PLAGIARIZED. Believe what you will, but I'm not wasting my years on this wonderful planet expecting more. Peace and love.
I am an atheist and a part of this film pissed me off, I hate it when people misquote things , it is plain and simple deceit.
He says that in LUKE 19:27 Jesus says "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me"
Although this is an exact quote he claims Jesus said it outright, whereas in the bible it is clear the Jesus is telling the people what the nobleman in the parable of ten minas said. the film maker must have known this.
If there wasn't big bucks in the business of god and people had to spread the word while working at Taco Bell - there'd be no god.Keep your goofy bullshit to yourself-please!!!!!!!!
What if god was just a christian deffinition of a alien, just like the summarians and mayans had their deffinition. It would make an interresting story. It's not my opinion, but just a thing for you to think about.
The trailer had nothing to do with Richard Dawkins. It's a well-made trailer and movie, so you don't have to resort to false name-dropping to promote it.
The chance that God exists as it is said in any religious book or whaever is near to nothing. If I'd tell you something and tell you that the chance that this is true is about 0,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% that it is right. Would you believe me?
Wow, you really ARE that stupid. Since your arguments seem to be the sum of an insult and a reference to the bible in general (I think you never read it. Else you could've given me some more specific reference) I'm going to respond in the same way:
Look at world's history and you see that the bible and every religion is made-up, useless crap which people follow like sheep, because they are lost and don't want to grow up. You narrow-minded christian pig,
All right you worthless ingrate. Ever read anything from the time period that goes against everything that Jesus did? No. If Jesus didn't perform any of the miracles, you'd think that his worst enemies would write something about it. They didn't. The Pharisees and the Sadducces had all the power in the world to write statements going against what Christ did, but they can't. Everybody knew of his miracles, and thousands upon thousands witnessed them.
Woah.. wait! So your proof for the "miracles" of Jesus is that nobody back then wrote down that it was all fake? Even 1,000 years later the people believed that all the natural disasters were witch-work and burned some elder women to stop them, but you believe that back then there definitely were some experts who tested every mircale jesus did and were not able to proof them fake... ? Also your sentence "Everybody knew of his miracles" - how should everybody have known? [cont.]
[cont.] They didn't have national broadcast or something. Also you should consider the fact that Jesus - if he existed - was maybe just not worth mentioning to the pharisees and the sadducces, because he was not seen as a threat. After all there were many other religions founded which never had any influence on history at all.
"After all there were many other religions founded which never had any influence on history at all." There were many that had no impact and were of no threat. However, Christianity has been the largest impact on human history. Jesus was a very real threat to Pharisee and Sadducces, he was undermining their power. Please study some more subject material before you put your foot in your mouth.
Can I please have your reference to the huge impact of jesus on the pharisees and sadducces. I'm willing to study the subject in certain points, but I don't really think it's that necessary, because the main question - if there is a God or not - can be answered without answering the question of jesus impact on the ancient people.
No I don't mean bible reference. I want independent sources. You can't refer to the bible, because it's credibility is part of the discussion. If you refer to the bible you create a "Begging for the question fallacy" - which is just the same as "The Bible is true because God exists, and God exists because the Bible says so". It doesn't get us anywhere.
Dumb fuck, it was reading the bible and truly understanding it, that made me an atheist...Get a brain, take your head out of your ass, and read your goddamn bible, study it, grasp it, try and understand it, and then the truth will come clear to you..It's all BULLSHIT
Wow. Another fool Atheist. You grab a brain, you actually discern what the Bible Says, and you will see the truth, that Jesus is God. It's all logical. Atheists are the parasites on society. A disease that has to be taken care of. I'll be praying for you.
wow another deluded idiot with his brainwashed ideological mythical bull shit. You've got no brain in the first place, your a robot to your belief, you lack comprehension of reality, and just claim "god did it" without explaining what the fuck god is? Your a deluded fool & a tool to the elites who control your religions, btw the parasites are theist assholes like yourself, who think know everything, but don't know shit. "god did it" remember dumbass!!
Self righteous fools are what you atheists are! Don't care about anything or anybody but yourselves! You freeloaders do as little as possible and expect people with ethics and morals to pick up your slack. It's the reason why most people in prison are atheists, they have severe problem in obeying laws. You want to live the life of an arrogant, deluded douche? Fine. Just don't beg for forgiveness when God judges you.
Common metaphysics and logic, plus science, totally rips your rudimentary understanding of morility according to the Bible apart. Your belief caused more people to go into fanatic fantasy bobble mind perceptions than any rational thinker in this whole world (athiest). In contrast, 80% of christians in the U.S. are in jail, not athiest dip shit.
This condescending act from a christian to a non believer to believe one is an impunity being saved from a magic man negates rational thinking. You claim to be a christian but are no more than a hopeless hypocrite.
Quit reading left wing rubbish. Most people in jail are atheists, unfortunate how you managed to slip through the system, another vulgar, angry, mentally scarred individual lashing out. Fortunately, nobody buys your BS!
I am not scared at the moment, Im only vulgar to people like you, and I am not angry at the moment either, I am just pointing out your ignorance, hypocrisy, and your reprehensible vague assumptions pertaining to christianity. You're a hypocrite and you know it.
Your simply angry because you can't refute any of my arguments. I am hardly a hypocrite. You just refuse to acknowledge the truth when it's presented right in front of you.
When you say "the truth", what truth are you talking about? the percent of christians in jail or your biased religion? I haven't seen any truth from you presented right in front of me, you are just an atrocious hypocrite. you are the angry one here because you are attacking people on their education and believes, it seems even the Bible's teachings hasn't penetrated your thick head let alone logic.
There you go throwing that word hypocrite around again. I'm pointing out your lack of education as well as pointing out your total lack of any intelligent cognitive thought. It's not hypocrisy what I say, it's the truth. If you were intelligent, you wouldn't have to rely on using profanity to try and make yourself look good. All that does is prove to the world what a close minded, arrogant, miserable human being you are.
NO JACK ASS, IT DEMONSTRATES ONE FRUSTRATED AND PISSED OFF MAN, OF IDIOTS SUCH AS YOURSELF. In today's society, believing in ancient books, with talking snakes, walking on water, virgin births, parting the Red Sea, and have it be believable is pathetic, indeed. Want an education, get off your ass, and get one, I've got my independently of any brainwashing institution. Want to have a real debate? I can demonstrate that Jesus is not God with your own bible! Will you step up or shut up?
Just because you have adverse opinions doesn't mean you should act sophomoric. I really cant help you understand why I think your a hypocrite because its already out there in the blue, you need to do some introspection... and seriously your belief and morality according to the Bible which I do not object to, just the fairy tales.
Go personally to any fucking jail in the world, and ask to speak to the prisoners your own fucking self and get data your own fucking self, and see what the fucking real numbers are!! DIP SHIT!! it's been done so that's why we know most people in fucking jail are THEISTS!!!!
What jail are you talking about? The one your sitting in right now? Fool, go finish high school and get a degree before you start ranting on about things you have no knowledge of.
Any fucking jail you go to moron! Just go, get off your big FAT!! ASS! and go to any fucking jail, and ask the warden to let you interview the inmates, you'll see they will profess some kind of religion. Also pin head, if I was sitting in fucking jail, I wouldn't be on YT with idiots such as yourself. High School degree? LOL... NO wonder your so pathetically brainwashed, you went to a brainwashing institution in the US!
(Don't care about anything or anybody but yourselves!) And just what the fuck is wrong with that? Are you going to share the same food of your stomach with another, the air you breath, all the money you make? BTW if your a good little christian, can you spare a thousand dollars? Once you deny me, you've not obeyed your christ!! DUMB ASS. The ARROGANT shit 4 brains is you! You believe Ur special. UrNOT.
FUCK OFF!! The vulgarity is part of my character, I'm an uneducated, high school drop out, minimum wage earner, barely picks a book to read, and still got enough common sense to know when someone is full of shit! and that B you. Your an arrogant ass, don't know shit stupid jackass, who thinks know it all, dumb fuck, when it comes to any science that contradicts your bull shit doctrines. If were up to your stupid fucking people the world would still be flat. N you call me stupid. LOL...
Common sense dictates that there is a God, mabye you should pursue higher education. It will open your eyes to the truth. Stop living in a shell. Arrogance is not in my character, but you show loads of it. Congratulations. No wonder you're not worth anybody's time. Science hardly contradicts any of my religious doctrines. I think it's time for you to grow up!
I've always thought it strange that christians are vehimately against abortion and in fact base the way they vote in USA based on whether or not the candidate is "pro-life". The strange part is that this same canidate must believe strongly in War (KILLING!), The DEATH penalty (KILLING!), Christianity (KILLERS)!, the hypocrisy goes on and on. There was a rule when those old men came here that stated they wanted seperation from church and state. WTF happened?!
Jesus was the greatest CONMAN ever to have lived! If we lived in those days! We could convince those ignorant primitive men who believe the earth was flat, that the earth was the center of the universe, they thought natural disasters were "gods fury"..well christians still think that:)...I could of convinced those same people that i was god's nephew, god's father, perhaps his distant cousin...anything i wanted because people were just that stupid...LOL..still are..LOL!
God cannot have thought up the universe because doing so would need consciousness. In order for consciousness to exist you would need physics to create a realm of existence consisting of multiple physical aspects like dimensions and time. The second you assume a consciousness created the universe you fool yourself because nothingness with a conscious isn't nothing, it is consciousness. This means that when you finally arrive at the conditions needed for God, you no longer need him.
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It was a very disappointing documentary, and cheaply made. The arguments against religion were so fraught with fallacy they were rendered hilarious...I am a theist and I could have done a better job in refuting religion.
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Jesus said pray for your enemies...i pray for Dawkins as he will suffer so much for his disbelief in the almighty who created him...why do people try to disproove what exsists?
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God is a word tha you can give any meaning the true is tha you feel love in your heart for you family a love ones thas the tru meaning o god when your heart is happy and doing good
ok i'm tire of this you guys are totally wrong about god: first god is not religion cuz religion was made for man and not for god. if the catholism has killed a lot of people is not thanks to god! you know i'm so happy that i found god not in the religion. i found god in the christianity no matter what you guys say i believe in god and nothing gonna change that!
Yes, men made the "gods". Gods only exist in the imaginations of religious people. They all make their own personal "God" that suits their own beliefs. A christian gay person's God of course says that it's OK to be gay, while a homophobic's "God" usually "says" that gays will go to "Hell" or something. Pretty obvious stuff, and it's a shame that religions and "Gods" still exist. We have science now, there is no need or place for religion anymore really.
NICE comment winterstellar. Most of our problems are due to religion; homophobia, sexism,racism, wars etc. but try telling them that and they want to chop off your fucking head! Mad people.
Stalin didn't kill in the name of Atheism you ignorant jackass, however can you say the same thing about the KKK, the Muslim extremists, or any other hate group? I can't even think of a single hate group that Doesn't centralize on a religious theme.
Religion is the reason humanity is doomed for failure. Until people start to educate themselves we are in effect, fucked.
Why do more people seem to die for "GOD" then for any other reason? Answer-how about old age?
yet one of his "commandments" are THOU SHALL NOT KILL! Answer-Religion is about fear and death, God is about peace. If you follow religion then death. If you follow God, life
Himmura,Tube Only if you believe that the Bible is true and if you believe that God said all those things. I tend to believe that man did those things and justified them by saying that God told them to do it.
hmm..guess either i misunderstood you or vice-versa. I was pointing out that there seems to be a whole lot of hatred and violence in the bible than in most horror stories ever told.
The past is replete with examples of religion being the justification for murder. Can you accept that fact?
The same can be said for nationalistic ideals. They are old out dated Ideals that have to be changed if humanity wants to move on to a civilization that can make the leap to a solar civilization, where all men work for one goal preservation of the planet, and the citizens of the world
Who choose to do so will survive. Those that want to keep their myths alive must be reeducated. Or die.
The problem with christianity is that it was hijacked by the totalitarian Roman Empire, and hybridised with Sol Invictus, Mithraism, Zoroastrianism, Neoplatonism, and any other folk belief in the region until it made no sense, hence the need for "faith", (otherwise known as "shut up and do what you're told, slave"). The message of Jesus was edited out at the Council of Nicea around 300 AD and all that was left was propaganda to serve Roman Fascism. Jesus became a Roman War God.
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we kind of have extra-biblical sources proving the historicity of jesus including Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the younger, and a couple others. So, there really is no rational reason to adhere to the jesus myth hypothesis. Most historians, even atheist historians, find the jesus myth theory to be laughable
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Dawkins - a boring man on a boring mission, one that sadly has no conclusion, other than him saying "its not true so there!" like a six year old. Engage in a debate with the guy and realise just how dull he is
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Christians aren't ignoring these "arguements"; we just think they're compeletly foolish. If I claimed that someone did something extraordinairy but it was a long time ago and I couldn't say where or who saw it you'd laugh at me. Now, if I could supply you with written testimony of other people who saw it and that that there was other evidence from sources with no vested interest you'd have to assume it's at least plausible.
Plausible isn't good enough reason to believe. Now let's sayt that I introduced a written work that has testimonials and people thousands of years ago that wrote them, that doesn't mean that the people that supposedly wrote them ever existed. Or if they did that they didn't feel the need to interject their own oppinion on to what they were writting. The story of Santa Claus has been passed down. That doesn't make it true.
May I just hold you for a minute. The main REASON that there are most testimonies about Jesus specifically is because the Roman Empire at that time embraced the story, which can be explained as mere coincidences of clashes between Religious and Military societies. And there were HUNDREDS of them It could have happened with Appolonius or any of the other messiahs at the time.
And you have the ability to choose between current testable scientific explanations, and myths originating from late Iron Age-time, by people who by no means had the possibility to learn about galaxies, cells, stardust, genes and so on, and you CHOOSE THE FIRST. Your only source if information is a highly edited version of a book which has been object to over 400 commanding popes with the ability to change it in Christianitys favour.
Um, no, it hasn't. Nobody's bothered to. To say that the New Testament states that Jeses was real, or to point out that historians and scholars also believe it to be true, or indicate that early believers were willing to die for their conviction of Jesus's life, is still not compelling evidence for the real, living, human Jesus.
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This movie is brilliant if you wanna hear one side of a story - typical Dawkinstyle not providing you with the informed Christian answers. I suggest reading something by some/or/many New Testament Schoolar, or why not study it for yourself.
imglad i got over my Delusion
karlbuttler 1 month ago
This shit movie can't stop pimping Dawkins, who is in neither the movie or this trailer. This movie blows. I expected this movie would present more of a case than it did. It didn't even make a case at all. Very sloppy and stupid crap.
einsatzdeath 5 months ago
I'm sick & tired of extremists of all types. There's no difference between Al Queda & Fundamantalist Christian Extremeists.
Hey, we were created with a brain. To not use that brain, to follow someone because they threaten you with their verson of God, is NOT using your God given gift of a brain.
There are sins against other people, but not using the most complex & intricate thing ever known to all humanity, well, that's just retarded, & perhaps the only true sin against our creator.
xyaqua 11 months ago
The existence of the man Jesus Christ is and has been one of the most accepted accounts by even secular/atheist historians. His divinity is what has always been in question. The emergence of the "Christ myth" is an occurrence of the late 19th century and a product of pseudo-historians whom have been debunked time and time again.
OoohReally1 1 year ago
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If I were to say that I was your savior and without me there wasn't salvation. And you might laugh at me. But if you don't except me into your heart god will disown you. Jesus isn't real but I am.
Only through me can you attain heaven.
jfeltes 1 year ago
There's nothing wrong with being a pervert, I am one due to the fact that I tend to lust at hot girls, it's just one of evolution's naturale way, you fundementalists need to chill out and stop being so paranoid
90Randyboy 1 year ago
The myth said that Jesus was the son of God, much the same as it was said that Hercules was the son of Zeus, so they were 2 gods that were said to have had sons
90Randyboy 1 year ago
Your kind roasted Ben Stein for making a stand. Now I will launch a campaign against you with fury. Hypocrate. No more turning cheeks to wolves.
Trip03ci 1 year ago
google Doe's Account, its insane.
Yellowwatts 1 year ago
why is there a person like Jesus in just about every other religion??
starlogic99 2 years ago
If Jesus didnt exist , why did his enemies write about him in (THE TALMUD) and claim he was a fraud and much worse. why bother why not just say he ddnt exist.
I think the arguement that a man called jesus of Nazereth didnt exist is a non starter ,no one writes books attacking the tooth fairy trying to damage her reputation.
The question is was he who the bible claims he was.
TheAbsenceofevidence 2 years ago
You are correct. He most definitely existed, but that does not mean that he did what the bible said he did.
weglarz 2 years ago
To say "god is dead" infers that God has existed, not that he never existed in the first place.
AmyK007 2 years ago
Or the phrase possibly infers that (any reasons for justifying the existence of) god is dead.
RaySquirrel 2 years ago
its a metaphore
god being the need for religeoen
as in "we dont need god any more, so therefore he has 'died'"
TamaHAHA 2 years ago
Some of you didn't get the memo-------god is dead and no one care's. When jesus says that people will turn away from him he is merely stating that his myth will end and another one will replace him.
justwannamakeluv 2 years ago
Jesus wasn't Crucified on a cross , because he was based off of a myth.
But Jesus was crucified on a cross , because it just so happens that the romans would execute people by nailing them to a cross.
What you see, is pure coincidence.
alexross8 2 years ago
but lo and behold! the romans never did cricify people on crosses!
they used a "T" shaped beam...
pray to your Tsuffix
TamaHAHA 2 years ago
Jesus's disciples was supposed to be the same number of tribes in Israel , 12 , which coincidentally was the same number of disciples that Krishna had.
But his disciples were based off of the tribes , which were twelve , which has nothing to do with hinduism.
Jesus had to die for the sins of mankind , just like the lamb died for the people on passover so that they wouldn't die.
In Jewish law , they weren't allowed to kill Jesus , but the romans could do it.
alexross8 2 years ago
"THEY WILL HATE FOR JESUS"
It is said more than once in the bible , "God hates the sinner , not the sin".
In the book of matthew , Jesus says "Love thy enemy"
He also said that hating is just as sinful as murder.
alexross8 2 years ago
key words in mythology
Myth-dont need to explain that
and
logy-the word of, study of
o- is the conective which in greek can go into both words
as in : Mytho/ology
translates to
they word of myth / study of myth
Mythology does not equal religion
JiveBoogie 2 years ago
Today, we humans, know that the stuff Jesus did can not happen in the world we live in. I just can't understand how people actually believe all this Bible and god-thing.
Sondr3h 2 years ago
In greek mythology Hercules was driven insane by Hera and he killed his wife and children and then himself by burning himself with fire. Later he was resurrected from the dead by Zeus or something. So stories of coming back from the dead aren't all new. Though in recent times its claimed some people believe Hitler, JFK , Elvis, and Michael Jackson are still alive.
hydrolito 2 years ago
Great example.
But unlike other stories , Jesus wasn't copying myths.
Jesus had to come back , because God could not die.
Death according to Christianity , means dying and never seeing earth again until Judgment day.
Jesus did come back , and he wasn't a ghost.
alexross8 2 years ago
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Another thing , the atheists on this trailer were so stupid.
Sure , Jesus wasn't the first person to be born of a virgin , and to be the one to fulfill all the prophecies.
But guess who's prophecies they were.
They were the Jewish prophecies , not the pagan ones.
The Jews came up with the prophecies first.
If you said that Jesus is based off of mythological characters who had the same role , then you are wrong.
Paganism plagiarized the Jewish prophecies that only a Jew could fulfill.
alexross8 2 years ago
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Another thing , the atheists on this trailer were so stupid.
Sure , Jesus wasn't the first person to be born of a virgin , and to be the one to fulfill all the prophecies.
But guess who's prophecies they were.
They were the Jewish prophecies , not the pagan ones.
The Jews came up with the prophecies first.
If you said that Jesus is based off of mythological characters who had the same role , then you are wrong.
Paganism plagiarized the Jewish prophecies that only a Jew could fulfill.
alexross8 2 years ago
"If you said that Jesus is based off of mythological characters who had the same role , then you are wrong.
Paganism plagiarized the Jewish prophecies that only a Jew could fulfill. "
Wow. LOL! Please learn to read.
IlliterateRage 2 years ago 8
What prophecies exactly? Being some stupid, claustrophobic, racist, narcissist nation? Cause they sure did fulfill that one.
jordanianandproud 2 years ago 2
I think you are refering to mithras when you are state the word "Paganism". But they are not refering to the prophecies, they are refering to the simialarities between mithras and jesus. When converting pagans the christian church would incorporate their rituals into the christian faith. Christmas is one tradition that we trace back to paganism. Almost anything in christianity can be traced back. Now they are stating that Jesus was the sone of a roman soldier.
dramaticchord 2 years ago
Prophecies? What prophecies? There are no prophecies in the Old Testament. What you think are prophecies are only mistranslations coupled with fanciful thinking.
bronx43 2 years ago
I'm very sorry to burst your eternal-life bubble, but some of these figures who so closely resemble Jesus, such as Mithras, are thousands of years older than Judaism itself. So really, it's Jews who plagiarized the Pagans. Even The Father, Yahweh, is a plagiarism of ancient Sumerian Pagan Gods like Enki (who just so happened to be involved in a worldwide flood and got a sinless man named Atrahasis build an arc).
You should try and enjoy reality before it's taken from you by time.
Sh0nin 2 years ago
Wrong again ,I am afraid.
Most Jesus like myths were created after Judaism.
Some myths that are much older than Judaism , were entirely different than Jewish prophecies.
Only a few similarities were noted.
At the time that the Jews made their prophecies , they had no connection with any outside culture.
Reading of non-Jewish texts was illegal.
Jesus's crucifixion wasn't based off of a myth.
It was based off of the sacrifice of a lamb , in Jewish tradition on passover.
alexross8 2 years ago
Really? That's very interesting. Please name some Jesus-like myths that came after Judaism that I might be confusing with pre-Judeo documents.
Sh0nin 2 years ago
Sorry, I can't familiarize myself with any myths , but I did see a documentary where in a person talks about myths that came after Judaism , and they sound a lot like Jesus.
The Mithras myth , even though it sounded like Jesus's story , had nothing to do with the passover of Moses and the lamb that they sacrificed on passover.
You see , Jesus's fulfilled prophecies were based off of some main stories of the old testament , such as the twelve tribes of israel , lambs , passover , etc..
alexross8 2 years ago
I find it dishonest and arrogant that you come here and make claims about what you know little or nothing about. I also think the arrogance devalues the better-informed opinions of others who have actually put much more effort into extensive research on the deities you talk about. That annoys me.
Mithras predates Judaism by almost half a millenium, and much of the Torah was stolen and copied from many other Pagan Gods. Even Yahweh is plagiarized from various Sumerian Pagan Gods.
Sh0nin 2 years ago
I know Mithras was older than Judaism.
I am just showing you why Jesus's story has nothing to do with Mithras .
No, Judaism didn't come from Pagan Gods.
Nothing in Judaism copies another doctrine.
The Hebrew people were secluded and only practiced the traditions that were handed down from Abraham.
Before Abraham , most of the Hebrew people kept from affiliating with Unholy people.
In fact , for some time , Talking to a gentile was illegal.
alexross8 2 years ago
Judaism copies Sumerian Paganism extensively. One of the most obvious plagiarisms is when the Gods flood the world because it is full of sin, but the God Enki warns a righteous man telling him to build an Ark and gather his family and animals on it.
Another one is when Hammurabi goes to the top of a mountain and receives the commandments of the Sun God written on stone tablets.
The hebrew people may have become secluded later by Abraham, but they originated from Sumeria (Babylon/Mesopotamia).
Sh0nin 2 years ago
Not talking to or affiliating with unholy people? Following and being secluded by a man who claims to be the only true messenger of God? Kind of sounds like a cult, doesn't it?
Sh0nin 2 years ago
ummmmm... christmas anyone?
its a pagan festival celebrating the winter solstace...
TamaHAHA 2 years ago 9
LOL that man said that Mark probably didn't think his story would be history , and he thought it might just be symbolic.
Is that what Matthew , Luke ,and John thought also?
What about the other people who wrote about the same stories that Jesus had fulfilled? did they also think that they was writing something symbolic?
If a bunch of people wrote about the same story , then it would be illogical to suggest that they were all just coincidentally symbolic.
alexross8 2 years ago
About 60% of the movie was good. That would be the timeline, the God comparisons, the interviews and the music. The rest was some boring kid whining about his bad experience with Christianity. It's still worth a look though.
Sh0nin 2 years ago
The end isn't boring to those with a similar background. Millions of kids across the country are tormented with threats of hell, and raised to believe it as absolute truth. These kids, and especially those who attend or attended a Christian school, would not find the rest boring at all. I really enjoyed it. Especially the interview with the principal.
OllyakaEnfillade 2 years ago
The part about Horus is awesome.
Lonereapr 2 years ago
Im sure there is a universal order, Im sure not the way it described in the Bible.
BiblesOnLine 2 years ago
i would like that trailer... to bad, the music dont fit.
vivrelesyeuxouvert 2 years ago
When jesus rose from the dead...why was there a stone moved from the cave jesus was put in? did he move the stone? i thought spirits move through walls and objects.
captaindebunker 2 years ago
Jesus wasn't raised back as a spirit.
He was raised from the dead, and he pushed away the stone.
alexross8 2 years ago
the film was good as an atheist i was intrigued however i thought the soundtrack was not good as it was mostly techno which didnt fit into the movie.
oreolvrsshane1987 2 years ago
It seems both sides are showing their ugly side. Before we believe in anything, we are of the same species. Don't forget that.
I have researched evidence for Jesus ever living, and I have found absolutely nothing. When I started searching for a more grounded truth in my (no longer existent) faith, I realized that Christianity is so remarkably fabricated and even PLAGIARIZED. Believe what you will, but I'm not wasting my years on this wonderful planet expecting more. Peace and love.
crimsontearz24 2 years ago
I am an atheist and a part of this film pissed me off, I hate it when people misquote things , it is plain and simple deceit.
He says that in LUKE 19:27 Jesus says "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me"
Although this is an exact quote he claims Jesus said it outright, whereas in the bible it is clear the Jesus is telling the people what the nobleman in the parable of ten minas said. the film maker must have known this.
bigdogrg12 2 years ago
Jesus' life also bears a striking resemblance to that of Horus, a mythical Egyptian God.
HalfDeath13 2 years ago
Both sides can't prove shit about the other side. I'm not Atheist or Christian, I personally don't give a shit who's right
pf91rodman 2 years ago
well that u know that small percentage is darn true
godluvsu55 3 years ago
If there wasn't big bucks in the business of god and people had to spread the word while working at Taco Bell - there'd be no god.Keep your goofy bullshit to yourself-please!!!!!!!!
72whitegrapes 3 years ago
What if god was just a christian deffinition of a alien, just like the summarians and mayans had their deffinition. It would make an interresting story. It's not my opinion, but just a thing for you to think about.
Jjjjjjcool 3 years ago
The trailer had nothing to do with Richard Dawkins. It's a well-made trailer and movie, so you don't have to resort to false name-dropping to promote it.
thekure42 3 years ago
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ATHEISTS ARE DICKHEADS
seanca1983 3 years ago
maybe.
but we're right
saelaird 3 years ago
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Prove God does not exist idiot.
seanca1983 3 years ago
Your're right nobody can prove either way, I consider myself atheist but nobody can prove God does or does not exist
seanprendevil 3 years ago
prove that he did "idiot"
IDiViNEx 3 years ago
Prove that Allah doesn't (well... nah, you probably don't see it). That Zeus doesn't. That Poseidon doesn't. Buhbuhbuhbuhbuh.
alexmeh 3 years ago
You present a redundant argument.
seanca1983 3 years ago
"Atheists are dickheads." That's proving things. Lol.
alexmeh 3 years ago
The chance that God exists as it is said in any religious book or whaever is near to nothing. If I'd tell you something and tell you that the chance that this is true is about 0,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% that it is right. Would you believe me?
Immortal63 3 years ago
You make no sense. But then again, you are an Atheist, so I expect nothing but stupidity from idiots like you.
seanca1983 3 years ago
are you really that stupid? Ok, again for the christian genius:
THE CHANCE THAT GOD EXISTS AS SAID IN THE BIBLE IS VERY, VERY, VERY LOW!
I hope you get it now. I don't think I can be any clearer.
Immortal63 3 years ago
Study the Bible and you'll see it makes more sense than you could ever imagine. You useless atheist fucktard.
seanca1983 2 years ago
Wow, you really ARE that stupid. Since your arguments seem to be the sum of an insult and a reference to the bible in general (I think you never read it. Else you could've given me some more specific reference) I'm going to respond in the same way:
Look at world's history and you see that the bible and every religion is made-up, useless crap which people follow like sheep, because they are lost and don't want to grow up. You narrow-minded christian pig,
Immortal63 2 years ago
All right you worthless ingrate. Ever read anything from the time period that goes against everything that Jesus did? No. If Jesus didn't perform any of the miracles, you'd think that his worst enemies would write something about it. They didn't. The Pharisees and the Sadducces had all the power in the world to write statements going against what Christ did, but they can't. Everybody knew of his miracles, and thousands upon thousands witnessed them.
seanca1983 2 years ago
Woah.. wait! So your proof for the "miracles" of Jesus is that nobody back then wrote down that it was all fake? Even 1,000 years later the people believed that all the natural disasters were witch-work and burned some elder women to stop them, but you believe that back then there definitely were some experts who tested every mircale jesus did and were not able to proof them fake... ? Also your sentence "Everybody knew of his miracles" - how should everybody have known? [cont.]
Immortal63 2 years ago
[cont.] They didn't have national broadcast or something. Also you should consider the fact that Jesus - if he existed - was maybe just not worth mentioning to the pharisees and the sadducces, because he was not seen as a threat. After all there were many other religions founded which never had any influence on history at all.
Immortal63 2 years ago
"After all there were many other religions founded which never had any influence on history at all." There were many that had no impact and were of no threat. However, Christianity has been the largest impact on human history. Jesus was a very real threat to Pharisee and Sadducces, he was undermining their power. Please study some more subject material before you put your foot in your mouth.
seanca1983 2 years ago
Can I please have your reference to the huge impact of jesus on the pharisees and sadducces. I'm willing to study the subject in certain points, but I don't really think it's that necessary, because the main question - if there is a God or not - can be answered without answering the question of jesus impact on the ancient people.
Immortal63 2 years ago
Certainly. Read the gospels and the works of Josephus.
seanca1983 2 years ago
No I don't mean bible reference. I want independent sources. You can't refer to the bible, because it's credibility is part of the discussion. If you refer to the bible you create a "Begging for the question fallacy" - which is just the same as "The Bible is true because God exists, and God exists because the Bible says so". It doesn't get us anywhere.
Immortal63 2 years ago
Josephus was completely independent of the Bible, his works are also totally objective. Also read Jesus and the Pharisees by John Bowker
seanca1983 2 years ago
Even expert bible scholars have noted Josephus to be a fraud...
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
Dumb fuck, it was reading the bible and truly understanding it, that made me an atheist...Get a brain, take your head out of your ass, and read your goddamn bible, study it, grasp it, try and understand it, and then the truth will come clear to you..It's all BULLSHIT
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
Wow. Another fool Atheist. You grab a brain, you actually discern what the Bible Says, and you will see the truth, that Jesus is God. It's all logical. Atheists are the parasites on society. A disease that has to be taken care of. I'll be praying for you.
seanca1983 2 years ago
wow another deluded idiot with his brainwashed ideological mythical bull shit. You've got no brain in the first place, your a robot to your belief, you lack comprehension of reality, and just claim "god did it" without explaining what the fuck god is? Your a deluded fool & a tool to the elites who control your religions, btw the parasites are theist assholes like yourself, who think know everything, but don't know shit. "god did it" remember dumbass!!
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
Self righteous fools are what you atheists are! Don't care about anything or anybody but yourselves! You freeloaders do as little as possible and expect people with ethics and morals to pick up your slack. It's the reason why most people in prison are atheists, they have severe problem in obeying laws. You want to live the life of an arrogant, deluded douche? Fine. Just don't beg for forgiveness when God judges you.
seanca1983 2 years ago
Common metaphysics and logic, plus science, totally rips your rudimentary understanding of morility according to the Bible apart. Your belief caused more people to go into fanatic fantasy bobble mind perceptions than any rational thinker in this whole world (athiest). In contrast, 80% of christians in the U.S. are in jail, not athiest dip shit.
PeaceGrape 2 years ago
Wow, you're another psychotic who belongs in an asylum. 80% of American Christians are in jail? Do the math you ingrate.
seanca1983 2 years ago
This condescending act from a christian to a non believer to believe one is an impunity being saved from a magic man negates rational thinking. You claim to be a christian but are no more than a hopeless hypocrite.
PeaceGrape 2 years ago
Its called tough love. Something you people can't seem to comprehend.
seanca1983 2 years ago
O ya, do the fucking research dick mouth, most people in jail are christians.
PeaceGrape 2 years ago
Quit reading left wing rubbish. Most people in jail are atheists, unfortunate how you managed to slip through the system, another vulgar, angry, mentally scarred individual lashing out. Fortunately, nobody buys your BS!
seanca1983 2 years ago
I am not scared at the moment, Im only vulgar to people like you, and I am not angry at the moment either, I am just pointing out your ignorance, hypocrisy, and your reprehensible vague assumptions pertaining to christianity. You're a hypocrite and you know it.
PeaceGrape 2 years ago
Your simply angry because you can't refute any of my arguments. I am hardly a hypocrite. You just refuse to acknowledge the truth when it's presented right in front of you.
seanca1983 2 years ago
When you say "the truth", what truth are you talking about? the percent of christians in jail or your biased religion? I haven't seen any truth from you presented right in front of me, you are just an atrocious hypocrite. you are the angry one here because you are attacking people on their education and believes, it seems even the Bible's teachings hasn't penetrated your thick head let alone logic.
PeaceGrape 2 years ago
There you go throwing that word hypocrite around again. I'm pointing out your lack of education as well as pointing out your total lack of any intelligent cognitive thought. It's not hypocrisy what I say, it's the truth. If you were intelligent, you wouldn't have to rely on using profanity to try and make yourself look good. All that does is prove to the world what a close minded, arrogant, miserable human being you are.
seanca1983 2 years ago
NO JACK ASS, IT DEMONSTRATES ONE FRUSTRATED AND PISSED OFF MAN, OF IDIOTS SUCH AS YOURSELF. In today's society, believing in ancient books, with talking snakes, walking on water, virgin births, parting the Red Sea, and have it be believable is pathetic, indeed. Want an education, get off your ass, and get one, I've got my independently of any brainwashing institution. Want to have a real debate? I can demonstrate that Jesus is not God with your own bible! Will you step up or shut up?
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
Its ok, you explained it very clearly. No need to bother with fanatic thick headed people like this. Just let him/her believe in magic man LOL.
PeaceGrape 2 years ago 2
Just because you have adverse opinions doesn't mean you should act sophomoric. I really cant help you understand why I think your a hypocrite because its already out there in the blue, you need to do some introspection... and seriously your belief and morality according to the Bible which I do not object to, just the fairy tales.
PeaceGrape 2 years ago
Go personally to any fucking jail in the world, and ask to speak to the prisoners your own fucking self and get data your own fucking self, and see what the fucking real numbers are!! DIP SHIT!! it's been done so that's why we know most people in fucking jail are THEISTS!!!!
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
What jail are you talking about? The one your sitting in right now? Fool, go finish high school and get a degree before you start ranting on about things you have no knowledge of.
seanca1983 2 years ago
Any fucking jail you go to moron! Just go, get off your big FAT!! ASS! and go to any fucking jail, and ask the warden to let you interview the inmates, you'll see they will profess some kind of religion. Also pin head, if I was sitting in fucking jail, I wouldn't be on YT with idiots such as yourself. High School degree? LOL... NO wonder your so pathetically brainwashed, you went to a brainwashing institution in the US!
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
(Self righteous fools are what you atheists are!)
Arrogant dick head is what you are.
(Don't care about anything or anybody but yourselves!) And just what the fuck is wrong with that? Are you going to share the same food of your stomach with another, the air you breath, all the money you make? BTW if your a good little christian, can you spare a thousand dollars? Once you deny me, you've not obeyed your christ!! DUMB ASS. The ARROGANT shit 4 brains is you! You believe Ur special. UrNOT.
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
By using obscene language and not using proper grammer, you prove that you are just another uneducated miscreant. Get a life you freeloader.
seanca1983 2 years ago
FUCK YOU CUNT! What the fuck are you a goddamn grammar teacher? So why don't learn to spell "grammar" before trying to teach it! DUMB FUCK!!
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
"So why don't learn"
Pathetic, stop with the vulgarity, it just enhances your stupidity.
seanca1983 2 years ago
FUCK OFF!! The vulgarity is part of my character, I'm an uneducated, high school drop out, minimum wage earner, barely picks a book to read, and still got enough common sense to know when someone is full of shit! and that B you. Your an arrogant ass, don't know shit stupid jackass, who thinks know it all, dumb fuck, when it comes to any science that contradicts your bull shit doctrines. If were up to your stupid fucking people the world would still be flat. N you call me stupid. LOL...
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
Common sense dictates that there is a God, mabye you should pursue higher education. It will open your eyes to the truth. Stop living in a shell. Arrogance is not in my character, but you show loads of it. Congratulations. No wonder you're not worth anybody's time. Science hardly contradicts any of my religious doctrines. I think it's time for you to grow up!
seanca1983 2 years ago
common sense dictates theism? what sort of higher education you mean? living in ashell, time to grow up.. in what sence?
carryall69 2 years ago
I've always thought it strange that christians are vehimately against abortion and in fact base the way they vote in USA based on whether or not the candidate is "pro-life". The strange part is that this same canidate must believe strongly in War (KILLING!), The DEATH penalty (KILLING!), Christianity (KILLERS)!, the hypocrisy goes on and on. There was a rule when those old men came here that stated they wanted seperation from church and state. WTF happened?!
kathleen2012 3 years ago
I believe that jesus was a good teacher but he is not the son of god...that is sucha silly idea... how come he is a lord and he poops?
nulife799 3 years ago
Jesus was the greatest CONMAN ever to have lived! If we lived in those days! We could convince those ignorant primitive men who believe the earth was flat, that the earth was the center of the universe, they thought natural disasters were "gods fury"..well christians still think that:)...I could of convinced those same people that i was god's nephew, god's father, perhaps his distant cousin...anything i wanted because people were just that stupid...LOL..still are..LOL!
whole27 3 years ago
God cannot have thought up the universe because doing so would need consciousness. In order for consciousness to exist you would need physics to create a realm of existence consisting of multiple physical aspects like dimensions and time. The second you assume a consciousness created the universe you fool yourself because nothingness with a conscious isn't nothing, it is consciousness. This means that when you finally arrive at the conditions needed for God, you no longer need him.
MTheoryGuy 3 years ago
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It was a very disappointing documentary, and cheaply made. The arguments against religion were so fraught with fallacy they were rendered hilarious...I am a theist and I could have done a better job in refuting religion.
Klosephine 3 years ago
I agree, it could have been done much better.
ClumsyRoot 3 years ago
"I am a theist and I could have done a better job in refuting religion"
if you are a theist you won't accept ANY argument against religion no matter how valid it is
kingliestatm 3 years ago
49ers
boogynights 3 years ago
An awesome documentary. it really opens your eyes.
Vislav 3 years ago
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Jesus said pray for your enemies...i pray for Dawkins as he will suffer so much for his disbelief in the almighty who created him...why do people try to disproove what exsists?
blindeyesbleed 3 years ago
because we don't see any evidence in "his" favour, and we have the goddamn freedom to dwell in disbelief
Lacolith 3 years ago 2
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God is a word tha you can give any meaning the true is tha you feel love in your heart for you family a love ones thas the tru meaning o god when your heart is happy and doing good
edwin392 3 years ago
ok i'm tire of this you guys are totally wrong about god: first god is not religion cuz religion was made for man and not for god. if the catholism has killed a lot of people is not thanks to god! you know i'm so happy that i found god not in the religion. i found god in the christianity no matter what you guys say i believe in god and nothing gonna change that!
victormania2008 3 years ago
Yes, men made the "gods". Gods only exist in the imaginations of religious people. They all make their own personal "God" that suits their own beliefs. A christian gay person's God of course says that it's OK to be gay, while a homophobic's "God" usually "says" that gays will go to "Hell" or something. Pretty obvious stuff, and it's a shame that religions and "Gods" still exist. We have science now, there is no need or place for religion anymore really.
winterstellar 3 years ago
NICE comment winterstellar. Most of our problems are due to religion; homophobia, sexism,racism, wars etc. but try telling them that and they want to chop off your fucking head! Mad people.
phallick 3 years ago
jesus 'el saviorrrrrr' christ
1one1republic 3 years ago
look, its quite simple, man made god, therefore there is no god.
Kneeling on your knees and putting ur hands together, won`t make the slightest bit of difference to your life.
When was the last time you saw someone come back to life without medical help, or grow new limbs after a horrific accident?
The answer..NEVER, thats right,NEVER.
Say what you like, there is no god, because there is no proof or evidence.
Remember this, if its written down, someone will believe it.
phallick 3 years ago 6
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Phallick You are an idiot and You really need to leave Youtube as your comments are the stupidist comments anyone has ever posted in history!
ZephanlahAndrews 3 years ago
Sir will u please politely state whats so stupid about his comment
anudeeptoora 3 years ago
seriously this video is sensationalizing to much about christianity.
i know the bible is true , but I DO NOT believe this video is helping to promot christianity at all.
this video is just counter productive.
LookMaNoBrains 3 years ago
wow man you're dumb they're not trying to promote christianity.
semihibernation 3 years ago 2
Stalin the atheist is the biggest murderer in human history. Are you teenagers stupid or dishonest? Fuckin' queers!
lazerlth4 3 years ago
Stalin didn't kill in the name of Atheism you ignorant jackass, however can you say the same thing about the KKK, the Muslim extremists, or any other hate group? I can't even think of a single hate group that Doesn't centralize on a religious theme.
Religion is the reason humanity is doomed for failure. Until people start to educate themselves we are in effect, fucked.
Caktonias 3 years ago 4
"religion is a by-product of fear"
as humans we always turn to something or someone for comfort..
that's all i gotta say
more people seem to die for "GOD" then for any other reason..
yet one of his "commandments" are THOU SHALL NOT KILL!
idiots..
xxbella21 3 years ago 4
Why do more people seem to die for "GOD" then for any other reason? Answer-how about old age?
yet one of his "commandments" are THOU SHALL NOT KILL! Answer-Religion is about fear and death, God is about peace. If you follow religion then death. If you follow God, life
Come on big brain you can figure this out.
questioneverything8 3 years ago
"..God is about peace."
-come on now..have you read the bible?
HimmuraTube 3 years ago
Himmura,Tube Only if you believe that the Bible is true and if you believe that God said all those things. I tend to believe that man did those things and justified them by saying that God told them to do it.
questioneverything8 3 years ago
hmm..guess either i misunderstood you or vice-versa. I was pointing out that there seems to be a whole lot of hatred and violence in the bible than in most horror stories ever told.
HimmuraTube 3 years ago
The past is replete with examples of religion being the justification for murder. Can you accept that fact?
The same can be said for nationalistic ideals. They are old out dated Ideals that have to be changed if humanity wants to move on to a civilization that can make the leap to a solar civilization, where all men work for one goal preservation of the planet, and the citizens of the world
Who choose to do so will survive. Those that want to keep their myths alive must be reeducated. Or die.
luniland 3 years ago
Go to the movies webpage to find the music. Its great to download. It gives me goosebumps every time. I've even cried to it.
snicklesnickerpunx 3 years ago
I've heard all this stuff before. But who did this great music?
grubelsucht 4 years ago
The problem with christianity is that it was hijacked by the totalitarian Roman Empire, and hybridised with Sol Invictus, Mithraism, Zoroastrianism, Neoplatonism, and any other folk belief in the region until it made no sense, hence the need for "faith", (otherwise known as "shut up and do what you're told, slave"). The message of Jesus was edited out at the Council of Nicea around 300 AD and all that was left was propaganda to serve Roman Fascism. Jesus became a Roman War God.
formless777 4 years ago 2
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we kind of have extra-biblical sources proving the historicity of jesus including Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the younger, and a couple others. So, there really is no rational reason to adhere to the jesus myth hypothesis. Most historians, even atheist historians, find the jesus myth theory to be laughable
migkillertwo 4 years ago
Another person that thinks Josephus is reliable...
As for the others... not worth the time.
3zaqxsw3 4 years ago 2
Even if there is historical evidence for Jesus. This still does not speak to the truth of his ministry.
Therein the problem lies, not that he existed, but that he was what he says he was.
MikkalaTube 4 years ago
The bible is recycled mythology.
Case closed.
sillychrist 4 years ago 8
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Dawkins - a boring man on a boring mission, one that sadly has no conclusion, other than him saying "its not true so there!" like a six year old. Engage in a debate with the guy and realise just how dull he is
Tostig56 4 years ago
You're a fucking retard, how is exploring the unkwowns of science a boring mission?
siph0n 4 years ago 5
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Christians aren't ignoring these "arguements"; we just think they're compeletly foolish. If I claimed that someone did something extraordinairy but it was a long time ago and I couldn't say where or who saw it you'd laugh at me. Now, if I could supply you with written testimony of other people who saw it and that that there was other evidence from sources with no vested interest you'd have to assume it's at least plausible.
searchjedi 4 years ago
Plausible isn't good enough reason to believe. Now let's sayt that I introduced a written work that has testimonials and people thousands of years ago that wrote them, that doesn't mean that the people that supposedly wrote them ever existed. Or if they did that they didn't feel the need to interject their own oppinion on to what they were writting. The story of Santa Claus has been passed down. That doesn't make it true.
agbar713 4 years ago 5
May I just hold you for a minute. The main REASON that there are most testimonies about Jesus specifically is because the Roman Empire at that time embraced the story, which can be explained as mere coincidences of clashes between Religious and Military societies. And there were HUNDREDS of them It could have happened with Appolonius or any of the other messiahs at the time.
wubbe 4 years ago 6
And you have the ability to choose between current testable scientific explanations, and myths originating from late Iron Age-time, by people who by no means had the possibility to learn about galaxies, cells, stardust, genes and so on, and you CHOOSE THE FIRST. Your only source if information is a highly edited version of a book which has been object to over 400 commanding popes with the ability to change it in Christianitys favour.
wubbe 4 years ago 4
"Christians aren't ignoring these "arguements"; we just think they're compeletly foolish."
LOL so you're dismissing the arguments then?
Because you find it to be plausible at bare minimum?
MikkalaTube 4 years ago
Oh brother. This movie has been refuted.
Apologia1988 4 years ago
Um, no, it hasn't. Nobody's bothered to. To say that the New Testament states that Jeses was real, or to point out that historians and scholars also believe it to be true, or indicate that early believers were willing to die for their conviction of Jesus's life, is still not compelling evidence for the real, living, human Jesus.
tacopylas 4 years ago
You should check out tektonics dot org an dsite this God who wasn't there stuff in. Have fun. :)
Apologia1988 4 years ago
By who? Bible-thumpers? The practitioners of the Christian superstition? That's what I thought.
sillychrist 4 years ago
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This movie is brilliant if you wanna hear one side of a story - typical Dawkinstyle not providing you with the informed Christian answers. I suggest reading something by some/or/many New Testament Schoolar, or why not study it for yourself.
ambjeppah 4 years ago
Have you watched the video or have you just irrationally come about this assumption? By the way this is not a Richard Dawkins documentary.
Jim105 4 years ago 2