What I want to know is when they came back to Veridian III, why wasn't Picard from ten minutes earlier already there? Then he wouldn't have needed Kirk at all, and if he failed again, he could just go into the Nexus and keep trying until he succeeded.
@stevenweir76 Kirk was drawn into the Nexus when the hull breached on the Enterprise. He had been there for the past 78 years, but since time doesn't pass in the Nexus like it does on the outside, when Picard found him, it was like he had just arrived too.
@SpockLover27 Not true. Even in the real ending, Picard had the memory of everything that happened before. How else would he have known who Kirk was when they returned to Veridian III or even that he had asked Kirk to come with him in the first place?
@3gdosrsfs Ahhh Shut up you little worm. The General has more talent than all the comedy writers in Hollywood. And much better editing skills then Gene Dingleberries...
This video and all these "Picard should've done ..." comments are great except had it ended like this the movie would've been 17 times worse than it already was.
@Nicdangered I don't think anyone believes that the movie should have ended like this. More like the writers shouldn't write a script that requires the hero to act dumb to create a dramatic climax or advance the plot. This video showed that the whole Nexus situation in the script is unworkable as Picard can solve the problem with no issues if he was smart. To fix this problem probably requires a rewrite of the conflict of the story.
@3gdosrsfs Also, Gene probably wouldn't have approved of Star Trek Generations as ST canon based on his track record; he didn't even really approve of Star Trek 6, which was actually a movie, instead of shit.
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this is BS, in the federation you cannot arrest someone based on something he would do in the future. at that point soren was still innocent at least legally
@sondano Soren was running secret experiments with stolen Trilithium to create a weapon of mass destruction.
Picard could simply detain him until they boarded the observatory and found the weapon. Soren would not have been able to beam over there and activate the weapon and kidnap geordi like what happened in the movie
@sondano But Picard did have knowledge of Sorens illegal trillithium experiments and his dealings with the Duras sisters. You cant arrest someone for nothing, but I understand the point this video makes. Star Trek Generations was a plot hole filled mess.....
@Neomac316 not at that point when he first met him on the Enterprise he knew nothing about him and while trillithium experiments may be banned in the federation Soren is not a federation citizen and he had not yet done anything against federation citizens or anyone for that matter. You cannot arrest someone for a future crime. And certainly you can't arrest someone just because he has dealings with the Duras sisters.
@sondano But going into the Nexus and coming back to that point in time when he first met Soran, with the knowledge he had before entering the Nexus, he had enough info to at least question Soran and stop him before he used the Trilithium. As I said before, I agree with you,you cant arrest someone for nothing. But the point of this video is simple, if Picard was smart, he would have came back to a point in history when he had an advantage, or gave a reason of why he had to return at that point.
@sondano At this point, you could already get him on Conspiracy to create Ecological Devestation,(wiping out a solar system has to be a pretty heafty crime, even an uninhabited one, without good cause) as it'd be easy to find the Trilithium devices, even throw in a charge of Conspiracy to commit Mass Murder when they re-discover the device intended to kill hundreds of millions of people on the planet. Or on Aggrevating the Romulans, and recklessly bringing his space station under attack.
@sondano Capt. Picard could charge and arrest Dr. Soren on the basis of the evidence of star-imploding torpedo which Soren Dr. has been working on at the space station. He could have Gynan corroborate Dr. Soren's intent. All of this, though, is predicated on the assumption that you can create a new timeline which is dependent on events which no longer exist except in the previous timeline of which you were never in during the newly created timeline.
I don't really blame it on the character. Generations and First Contact both have gaping stupid plot holes, but I think of it as a production/writing mistake. In my opinion the character did the best he could in the terribly written Star Trek movie universe's logical framework
Knowing TNG Recut Picard, he probably did return to France just to watch his brother and nephew burn to death--and probably sat there dranking his tea while doing so--before he went to stop Soran.
As for this clip, if he had gone back to this point in the movie, he could have prevented Geordi from being captured and tortured but Picard did not care about that.
Ha! Isn't that always the way in time travel movies? Kind of like Marty McFly going back to save Doc from the Libyans - "Ten minutes should be enough!"
B) Doesn't arrest Soran the same way as this video since his missile would be easily located, despite it being stupidly small and unconvincing
C) Soran actually was in the Nexus but got transported out despite him actually being inside no matter what, in which case the bad guy actually won since both he and Picard went inside the Nexus; so what you get is an unsatisfying ending
Where does the actual line "As captain of the enterprise I am placing you under arrest" come from? What episode?
Also....didn't Soron enter the Nexus as well with Picard? What the hell happened to him in there? Shouldn't he be able to stalemate Picard's attempts to jump back and change the past?
@billyboyjennings Then again, Soran already entered the Nexus back in Kirk's time, he was already there and wouldn't have a need to 'return' to it...how would they even beam him out? How do you lock onto someone who's outside of space and time? You know what the Nexus really is? The literal incarnation of a plot hole....when they fell into it, they were following into the gap in the script.
It's okay, Picard. Your stupid decision not to go back & arrest Soran ONLY led to the kidnap & torture of your chief engineer, the brutal death of the most legendary captain in starfleet history, and the destruction of the USS Enterprise D.
speaking of that scene in 10 forward, I think it would have been cool, just as Soren said to Picard, "They say Time is the fire in which we burn", if the whole 10 forward around Picard and Soren wouldve gone dark, leaving just the two of them standing in the dark, then flames would rise around Picard.......Wouldve been more dramatic scene for the side story about Picards family and what Picard was going through at that moment.
@vorsdec not only that. The enterprise D would be fine, Kirk would be happily in the Nexus, and Jordi wouldn't have had to get tortured and Data wouldnt have had a melt down in the middle of an important mission....man this movie was bad.
I would have wished for a thousand more wishes. Oh wait, that's not right.
But then he would have gone back in space and time when there was already another Picard there. Then we could have seen a battle between Picard and slightly more future Picard as one tried to arrest him and the other tries to defend him.
@GeneralGrin "...there also shouldn't have been another Picard, but there wasn't."
With temporal mechanics you always start out with a new slate. You're projecting the idea of the temporal anomaly specifically double characters is a misconception. Picard forged a new reality when he emerged from the Nexus to stop Soran. That reality is separate than the previous reality (where the sun went nova) - so there is no causality involved.
@GeneralGrin You make me want to beat my head against a wall. You don't get it General Grin. It's like the Yesterday's Enterprise episode; The past is restored by events that unfolded in an alternate reality.
Picard used the Nexus to precede the events of his own doing; His first attempt (failure) to stop Soren also brought Picard in the Nexus. There he used the Nexus to create a new reality which superseded the first reality. And from that reality the movie ended. No anomaly!
@GeneralGrin here is the really scary thing no one else seems to not even notice but techenicly picard is still the nexus...even after he beats up soran and stuff. i mean its still his nexus and yeah unless i am missing something can the nexus actully put you back out of the nexus and still put u back in time or is picard still inside the nexus cuz like i never understood why no one ever pointed that out.
@thewewguy8t88 IT doesn't work, because that would mean that the last three movies didn't happen. And the events of First Contact are mentioned in Voyager and have direct consequences in Enterprise.
@trlkly yeah the stupid nexus makes my head spin how does it freaken work. like how does it send you back out in time. and not have it still be the nexus it makes no sense.
Hindsight is 20/20 he was obsessed with what had just happenend and not thinking about anything else, besides nobody would of known about what really happenend to Kirk
LOL, I would've zapped the bastard with my phaser!
That's ingenious!
I've been meaning to do some alt. endings to Star Trek & Star Wars so i guess I better start before someone else steals my ideas (this wasn't one of them; I'm just saying).
Awesome, I definitely agree. Of course, this way the writers can't have their corny 2 vs 1 fight scene where they get to kill Kirk for no reason whatsoever.
very good idea, the only problem being that when he went back to arrest him, he would have no proof to arrest him with :P other then that awesome and yes makes sense XD
I love seeing these alternate endings to movies and even though I really don't agree with this ending(I get to that later) it is well done.
This ending would not really make much sense in that Picard would be convicting Soran of a crime he has yet to commit. Picard would appear incompetent with no actual proof of the legitimacy of his decision and would most likely lose his command of the Enterprise.
@walker1984 that and it would not guarantee soran escaping from jail and doing the same thing somewhere else. afterall the ribbon path wouldnt have changed any more or less /nerd
Actually wouldn't it have been better if Picard went back and saved his brother and nephew from dying in the fire and then he arrests Soran later on
But there's still a problem, Soran is still in the nexus because both picard and soran entered the nexus, picard and kirk leave but soran doesn't so soran is still in there
Picard can enter anyone's nexus so he only enters Kirk's and not soran's
I just watched Generations recently and this is exactly what I thought he should have done immediately after watching the movie. I mean, you seriously want to go back to a point in time involving imminent danger when you had him right there on the ship before? Well of course not, because the plot demands some action! After all, how else can we drop a bridge on Kirk? Come up with a more respectable death for him you say? Blasphemy!
Sooooooooooooooo true. he could have gone to the very beginning of the movie and stopped everything from ever happening! and then there wouldnt be any movie. There are sooo many movies that have this same plot hole. producers have to be very careful when they do time warp shit.
Now that brought a smile to my face. Yeah... if the writin' hadn't been so sloppy and if they didn't aim to destroy the good ol' Enterprise-D for good, this could have been part of what could have been done, though, obviously, that'd not make it "Generations" in that sense. But it coulda worked, indeed. xD;
I love this and is the first thing I thought of when I first watched Generations. But clearly it's all because of the writers that the other way happened for several reasons.
That way we had an 'action packed conclusion and excuse to kill off a certain old captain' .
So Jean-Luc learned his lesson when trying to fight someone like Malcom Mcdowell that he needs to actually learn how to fight, and wear a tank-top at the end of every movie afterwards.
i thought this myself. also wondered why they want us to believe riker was too stupid to order the shields be reset......gonna destry the ship? fine, dont insult our intelligence in the process. also a comment i saw was funny and true, they cant ADD!! since when does a "spread of torpedoes" mean one torpedo?? worf a drop out? lol
in the early seasons of TNG we often saw 1 torpedo being fired and it split into many torpedoes. so presumably all these torpedoes are fired together and look like one torpedo.
so maybe that's what worf fired only that the torpedoes didn't split and all hit the same place together
good call......"yesterdays enterprise" comes to mind. still stand by what i say bout them taking us for suckers tho.....what was the FIRST thing the odessey did when the dominion penetrated their shields? reset them. they want us to believe riker wouldnt even bother? bs
@GeneralGrin Would explain why what looked like one torpedo took out an entire ship. One of my minor gripes with Star Trek is how resiliant ships are with their sheilds down.
Maybe they were all together in a line, like an ant trail.
Anyway, good video. Turns out there are still some of your videos I haven't seen.
It's such a shame - Generations sucks. The plot is an awkward, hole ridden (as you've so cleverly demonstrated) excuse to get the two captains together (why not just use, you know, time travel?). Kirk dies in a terribly stupid way, for no real purpose. The Enterprise gets its ass royally kicked by a little Bird of Prey. The villain, while interesting, doesn't get nearly enough screen time. Data's emotion chip scenes are (mostly) embarrassing. And I could go on. What a wasted opportunity.
What I want to know is when they came back to Veridian III, why wasn't Picard from ten minutes earlier already there? Then he wouldn't have needed Kirk at all, and if he failed again, he could just go into the Nexus and keep trying until he succeeded.
brianjlevine 1 month ago
This video is better than that actual ending of the film.
MeatballsMarlowe 3 months ago
Total pwnage!
stevenweir76 4 months ago
@stevenweir76 But the truth is if he went into the past, he naturally wouldn't remember what happens in the future...
SpockLover27 4 months ago
@SpockLover27 - How did he come back with Kirk who wasn't there to begin with and why did they remember what to do then?
stevenweir76 4 months ago
@stevenweir76 Kirk was drawn into the Nexus when the hull breached on the Enterprise. He had been there for the past 78 years, but since time doesn't pass in the Nexus like it does on the outside, when Picard found him, it was like he had just arrived too.
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@jtkirkfan2002 Thank you <3
SpockLover27 1 week ago
@SpockLover27 Not true. Even in the real ending, Picard had the memory of everything that happened before. How else would he have known who Kirk was when they returned to Veridian III or even that he had asked Kirk to come with him in the first place?
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@jtkirkfan2002 But Picard went only as far back to where he knew who Soran was. He knew kirk and kirk knew him because they met in the Nexus
SpockLover27 1 week ago
@SpockLover27 But wait a minute! If he... I HATE TEMPORAL MECHANICS!!!
babylon218 1 week ago
CAPTAIN BETHANY AGANA BUILDER STAAR Trek DR WHO u.s.s. enterprise?
MrDklocks 4 months ago
@3gdosrsfs Ahhh Shut up you little worm. The General has more talent than all the comedy writers in Hollywood. And much better editing skills then Gene Dingleberries...
seureka1 5 months ago
@seureka1 captain BETHANY AGANA BUILDER is a star trek DR who u.s.s. enterprise?
MrDklocks 4 months ago
Respond to this video... captain BETHANY AGANA BUILDER IS A STAR TREK DR WHO U.S.S. ENTERPRISE?
MrDklocks 4 months ago
@GeneralGrin That was great. Why didn't he do that in the first place.
vidbid1 5 months ago
You know what...that makes perfect sense, I'll never be able to look at that movie the same way.
Hav58 6 months ago
Ive gotta say if the movie went like that then it would of ended alot sooner AND would of saved the Enterprise D along with alot of BS. @ THUMBS UP !
nxfleetwood 6 months ago
Just shoot the fucker.
MasterJediKyleKatarn 6 months ago
Love those plot holes.
RandomLee731 6 months ago
This video and all these "Picard should've done ..." comments are great except had it ended like this the movie would've been 17 times worse than it already was.
Nicdangered 6 months ago
@Nicdangered I don't think anyone believes that the movie should have ended like this. More like the writers shouldn't write a script that requires the hero to act dumb to create a dramatic climax or advance the plot. This video showed that the whole Nexus situation in the script is unworkable as Picard can solve the problem with no issues if he was smart. To fix this problem probably requires a rewrite of the conflict of the story.
phantomdasilva 6 months ago
@3gdosrsfs Also, Gene probably wouldn't have approved of Star Trek Generations as ST canon based on his track record; he didn't even really approve of Star Trek 6, which was actually a movie, instead of shit.
TheCatholicBoat 7 months ago
He should have gone back far enough to save his brother and nephew. Then he picks up Soran from the station and throws him in the brig.
IMBShappie 7 months ago
Blood great idea :P
sebwilkins 8 months ago
Funny!
milojthatch 8 months ago
what was that?
richardmtl 9 months ago
Lol
SugarCookietarian 9 months ago
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this is BS, in the federation you cannot arrest someone based on something he would do in the future. at that point soren was still innocent at least legally
sondano 9 months ago
@sondano Soren was running secret experiments with stolen Trilithium to create a weapon of mass destruction.
Picard could simply detain him until they boarded the observatory and found the weapon. Soren would not have been able to beam over there and activate the weapon and kidnap geordi like what happened in the movie
GeneralGrin 9 months ago 19
@GeneralGrin I imagine you could make an extended version of this, using Wing Commander IV ending footage to imply Soren's trial and ultimate fate.
starschwar 6 months ago
@sondano Tell that to the guys in VOY:"Relativity" though honestly that's one of the main reasons I hate the 29th century Federation...
Perion 8 months ago
@sondano But Picard did have knowledge of Sorens illegal trillithium experiments and his dealings with the Duras sisters. You cant arrest someone for nothing, but I understand the point this video makes. Star Trek Generations was a plot hole filled mess.....
Neomac316 8 months ago
@Neomac316 not at that point when he first met him on the Enterprise he knew nothing about him and while trillithium experiments may be banned in the federation Soren is not a federation citizen and he had not yet done anything against federation citizens or anyone for that matter. You cannot arrest someone for a future crime. And certainly you can't arrest someone just because he has dealings with the Duras sisters.
sondano 8 months ago
@sondano But going into the Nexus and coming back to that point in time when he first met Soran, with the knowledge he had before entering the Nexus, he had enough info to at least question Soran and stop him before he used the Trilithium. As I said before, I agree with you,you cant arrest someone for nothing. But the point of this video is simple, if Picard was smart, he would have came back to a point in history when he had an advantage, or gave a reason of why he had to return at that point.
Neomac316 8 months ago
@sondano At this point, you could already get him on Conspiracy to create Ecological Devestation,(wiping out a solar system has to be a pretty heafty crime, even an uninhabited one, without good cause) as it'd be easy to find the Trilithium devices, even throw in a charge of Conspiracy to commit Mass Murder when they re-discover the device intended to kill hundreds of millions of people on the planet. Or on Aggrevating the Romulans, and recklessly bringing his space station under attack.
s2k997 7 months ago
@sondano Capt. Picard could charge and arrest Dr. Soren on the basis of the evidence of star-imploding torpedo which Soren Dr. has been working on at the space station. He could have Gynan corroborate Dr. Soren's intent. All of this, though, is predicated on the assumption that you can create a new timeline which is dependent on events which no longer exist except in the previous timeline of which you were never in during the newly created timeline.
vidbid1 5 months ago
@sondano True, but by the time they got him to a starbase for a trial his plans would have been ruined and the star system saved
override367 1 month ago
That was dang awesome! XD Well done!
SpockLover27 9 months ago
Well played, sir.
naomi45 9 months ago
Kirk and Picard should have gone to ten forward - Kirk could knock Soran out, put him in the brig, and Kirk and Picard have a drink together.
dan1216 9 months ago 3
If Picard thought of that, he could have saved the Enterprise!
Thats a Genius ending!
skodafavorit1 9 months ago 2
simply put : one of ST´s worst time travel plots of all time . i do like the movie somehow , don´t know why
shmerokee 10 months ago
@3gdosrsfs it´s still Mr Roddenberry for you !
shmerokee 10 months ago
I don't really blame it on the character. Generations and First Contact both have gaping stupid plot holes, but I think of it as a production/writing mistake. In my opinion the character did the best he could in the terribly written Star Trek movie universe's logical framework
FlipmindMusic 10 months ago
12 people have been placed under arrest
MrIlive4metal 10 months ago
This made a whole lot of sense.
soloduk 10 months ago
Good one.
outdriving08 1 year ago
That ending is much more sensable.
V3ryan 1 year ago
At least a few reviewers did point out that he should of gone somewhere/sometime else.
Just a movie though XD
Usul573 1 year ago
Knowing TNG Recut Picard, he probably did return to France just to watch his brother and nephew burn to death--and probably sat there dranking his tea while doing so--before he went to stop Soran.
As for this clip, if he had gone back to this point in the movie, he could have prevented Geordi from being captured and tortured but Picard did not care about that.
Borastheantichrist 1 year ago
Ha! Isn't that always the way in time travel movies? Kind of like Marty McFly going back to save Doc from the Libyans - "Ten minutes should be enough!"
samstokes80 1 year ago
so...in this huge farce of a plot, Picard:
A) Doesn't save his family
B) Doesn't arrest Soran the same way as this video since his missile would be easily located, despite it being stupidly small and unconvincing
C) Soran actually was in the Nexus but got transported out despite him actually being inside no matter what, in which case the bad guy actually won since both he and Picard went inside the Nexus; so what you get is an unsatisfying ending
GODLIKE20000 1 year ago
This is awesome. I was SCREAMING in the theater, JUST GO BACK TO THE DAMN SHIT AND SHOOT HIM!
deuce01983 1 year ago
That was great!
sumbuddyx 1 year ago
Wow, I actually thought he was gonna shoot him, but this makes more sense.
Jyger85 1 year ago
yeah that ending was sick.
BHMatrix 1 year ago
Where does the actual line "As captain of the enterprise I am placing you under arrest" come from? What episode?
Also....didn't Soron enter the Nexus as well with Picard? What the hell happened to him in there? Shouldn't he be able to stalemate Picard's attempts to jump back and change the past?
nothri 1 year ago
@nothri
The line comes from Season 7s The Pegasus.
bestirishfirefighter 1 year ago
@nothri Time has no meaning there sooo I guess Soran stayed in the Nexus and really won.
billyboyjennings 1 year ago
@billyboyjennings Then again, Soran already entered the Nexus back in Kirk's time, he was already there and wouldn't have a need to 'return' to it...how would they even beam him out? How do you lock onto someone who's outside of space and time? You know what the Nexus really is? The literal incarnation of a plot hole....when they fell into it, they were following into the gap in the script.
nothri 1 year ago 2
He just wanted a new ship so he did not wish for that.
xXCANINEXx 1 year ago
One could argue that going back too much before he went into the nexus could be interpreted as a breach of the temporal prime directive.
BradTroika 1 year ago
hahhahahahaa! good one!
Raxipyensid 1 year ago
LOL!
boxa1500 1 year ago
Personally I would have just stayed in the Nexus.
Carbonific 1 year ago 3
@Carbonific So would I
joseph1985 10 months ago
It's okay, Picard. Your stupid decision not to go back & arrest Soran ONLY led to the kidnap & torture of your chief engineer, the brutal death of the most legendary captain in starfleet history, and the destruction of the USS Enterprise D.
Nothing to beat yourself up about.
fecxor 1 year ago 2
Good job
ih8grep 1 year ago
speaking of that scene in 10 forward, I think it would have been cool, just as Soren said to Picard, "They say Time is the fire in which we burn", if the whole 10 forward around Picard and Soren wouldve gone dark, leaving just the two of them standing in the dark, then flames would rise around Picard.......Wouldve been more dramatic scene for the side story about Picards family and what Picard was going through at that moment.
sevendram 1 year ago
pwned
aguycalledpie 1 year ago
lol not bad
hypnotix2000 1 year ago
Go back in time and stop the goddamn Borg. :p
TheSonicGod 1 year ago
THANK YOU!
spikeS1983emp 1 year ago
LOL that was a bit strange... I was hoping for some magical editing and Picard punches him in the face lol
starsfandub 1 year ago
Thank you!!! At least that ending makes sense!!!! And the look on Soren's face... PRICELESS!!!
garamonde 1 year ago 3
that would of been a differate end to the movie
HisNameisCharlie 1 year ago
ha ha ha i loved it to bad it wasn't real
MDysinger 1 year ago
Everytime I see this movie I think "this ending is all wrong". The rest of the movie is good, but it just falls apart.
mustang6172 1 year ago
LOL!!!.... you are right.... but it would have been one short movie. LOL!!!!
wabmorgan 1 year ago
You're all forgetting about the temporal prime directive...Picard had to go back to the most recent point of interference possible.
mikeygormley 1 year ago
LOL, hilarious!
origin47 1 year ago
Well that was easy. Nicely done Captain! Promote yourself to Admiral.
Really, nice editing. Check mines out called Picard says the N word.
lem0n2lime 1 year ago
I can't stop watching this. It is just too funny
scaramangaix 1 year ago
that will be perfect. This could prevent the death of Capt Kirk.
vorsdec 1 year ago
@vorsdec not only that. The enterprise D would be fine, Kirk would be happily in the Nexus, and Jordi wouldn't have had to get tortured and Data wouldnt have had a melt down in the middle of an important mission....man this movie was bad.
Ty0328 1 year ago
I would have wished for a thousand more wishes. Oh wait, that's not right.
But then he would have gone back in space and time when there was already another Picard there. Then we could have seen a battle between Picard and slightly more future Picard as one tried to arrest him and the other tries to defend him.
pezdrake 1 year ago 3
@pezdrake when he went back the the mountain top in the end of the film there also shouldn't have been another picard, but there wasn't.
so he obviously went into the body of his past self and not appeared as a seperate future version of himself
GeneralGrin 1 year ago 12
@GeneralGrin
Abdolutely correct.
There is a rule that Star Trek is only supposed
to get time travel right on tv but not in the movies.
LovingScrubbies 1 year ago
@GeneralGrin "...there also shouldn't have been another Picard, but there wasn't."
With temporal mechanics you always start out with a new slate. You're projecting the idea of the temporal anomaly specifically double characters is a misconception. Picard forged a new reality when he emerged from the Nexus to stop Soran. That reality is separate than the previous reality (where the sun went nova) - so there is no causality involved.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L he basically went back in time so there should have been another Picard already there (past Picard)
GeneralGrin 1 year ago
@GeneralGrin You make me want to beat my head against a wall. You don't get it General Grin. It's like the Yesterday's Enterprise episode; The past is restored by events that unfolded in an alternate reality.
Picard used the Nexus to precede the events of his own doing; His first attempt (failure) to stop Soren also brought Picard in the Nexus. There he used the Nexus to create a new reality which superseded the first reality. And from that reality the movie ended. No anomaly!
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L in that case everything that happened after he came out of the Nexus is really in an alternate reality and not the original reality
GeneralGrin 1 year ago
@GeneralGrin Okay Beverly Crusher go on living in that warp bubble of yours.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@GeneralGrin you get it now. but since it's identical to the reality he was aiming for, does it really matter?
lordteapot 1 year ago
@GeneralGrin Oh Boy.
Perion 8 months ago
@GeneralGrin here is the really scary thing no one else seems to not even notice but techenicly picard is still the nexus...even after he beats up soran and stuff. i mean its still his nexus and yeah unless i am missing something can the nexus actully put you back out of the nexus and still put u back in time or is picard still inside the nexus cuz like i never understood why no one ever pointed that out.
thewewguy8t88 6 months ago
@thewewguy8t88 IT doesn't work, because that would mean that the last three movies didn't happen. And the events of First Contact are mentioned in Voyager and have direct consequences in Enterprise.
trlkly 5 months ago
@trlkly yeah the stupid nexus makes my head spin how does it freaken work. like how does it send you back out in time. and not have it still be the nexus it makes no sense.
thewewguy8t88 5 months ago
@pezdrake Well, thats the problem with the idea of the Nexxus. it wasnt thought through completely
sevendram 1 year ago
Hindsight is 20/20 he was obsessed with what had just happenend and not thinking about anything else, besides nobody would of known about what really happenend to Kirk
godfatherglen 1 year ago
So true!!!! LOL
graveheart1138 1 year ago
Poor Captain Kirk!
He's still in paradise an not dead and buried under a load of rocks :(
silverblue87 1 year ago
Brilliant.
thanatos74656 1 year ago
lol... awesome video.
So true, right?
This wouldn't even have been an interesting 20 minute movie... and somehow they dragged it out to 90 minutes.
hossrex 1 year ago
LOL, I would've zapped the bastard with my phaser!
That's ingenious!
I've been meaning to do some alt. endings to Star Trek & Star Wars so i guess I better start before someone else steals my ideas (this wasn't one of them; I'm just saying).
WatchMyAwesomeVideos 1 year ago
I always agreed with this ending, but in retrospect, maybe he would have gone back and saved Robert and Renee from the fire.
empbox 1 year ago
Awesome, I definitely agree. Of course, this way the writers can't have their corny 2 vs 1 fight scene where they get to kill Kirk for no reason whatsoever.
erentheca 1 year ago
very good idea, the only problem being that when he went back to arrest him, he would have no proof to arrest him with :P other then that awesome and yes makes sense XD
Ellster 1 year ago
He doesn't need evidence. He is CAPTAIN JEAN LUC PICARD.
TheRogueX 1 year ago
Simply put, LOL.
SnuffyWuffles 1 year ago
actually, that makes a WHOLE lot of sense!!
katrinadax 1 year ago 3
hahah loool XDDDD
OVcrew 1 year ago
picards not stupid hes a mans man, you can all go to hell
iamsicsic6 1 year ago
Holly Jesus this video is super funny yes but some of comments here are super stupid.
WHY? Because I said so.
phoenixILharabec 2 years ago
genius hahah
josseh666 2 years ago
LOL This could have saved James Kirk!
Harridrone 2 years ago
Kinda. Kirk would still be on the Nexus. So you'd have to retrieve him somehow, then he'd be saved.
Forlo12345 1 year ago
Kirk is still in the nexus, he is a Tauren Shaman now.
erentheca 1 year ago 2
@erentheca OMG I died at your comment :D
kroozader 1 year ago
the best ending ever!
KhamusSolo 2 years ago
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That is not a real ending or anything Picard did not even mouth those words. That was dubbed in to it.
kuribo1 2 years ago
you don't say...
Garfy2005 2 years ago
This video is proof that the TNG movies suck ass. So many idiotic moments. In the show Picard is a genius. When the movies start he is a huge moron.
Cocknockerofl 2 years ago
I wonder if it occurred to Picard later that he could have gone back a few days & saved his family from burning to death.
TrixieHardcore 2 years ago 7
I love seeing these alternate endings to movies and even though I really don't agree with this ending(I get to that later) it is well done.
This ending would not really make much sense in that Picard would be convicting Soran of a crime he has yet to commit. Picard would appear incompetent with no actual proof of the legitimacy of his decision and would most likely lose his command of the Enterprise.
Good work though!
walker1984 2 years ago
@walker1984 that and it would not guarantee soran escaping from jail and doing the same thing somewhere else. afterall the ribbon path wouldnt have changed any more or less /nerd
darkknightbob101 2 years ago 2
LMAO!!!!!
awesome vid and thanks for posting this.
Lootraevefan 2 years ago
Man, thank you for this video. I though of the same thing... thats the reason why doing too much magic ruins the hole plot.
CptMooreBig 2 years ago
It would have been better if he had got kirk and failed and then did this w/ Kirk
ATADSP 2 years ago
thank you That was excelent.
jorgeperazzauno 2 years ago
This would have saved Paramount a lot of money.
spacecowboy5000 2 years ago 18
Actually wouldn't it have been better if Picard went back and saved his brother and nephew from dying in the fire and then he arrests Soran later on
But there's still a problem, Soran is still in the nexus because both picard and soran entered the nexus, picard and kirk leave but soran doesn't so soran is still in there
Picard can enter anyone's nexus so he only enters Kirk's and not soran's
elcap22 2 years ago 4
lol sorons face
captain5enterprise 2 years ago
if he did that he wouldn't have any proof he did anything. :(
captain5enterprise 2 years ago
all the proof he needed was on the observatory.
(the weapon soran was building with the stolen trilithium)
GeneralGrin 2 years ago 6
well I guess I'm as stupid as picard lol
captain5enterprise 2 years ago
Guinan is the most magical of negroes in all the galaxy.
tgz1000 2 years ago 7
Why didn't Picard leave the Nexus to before the tragic fire in France that killed his family?
Baldeagle79 2 years ago 63
yeah the plot was really weak
PredatorianStyl 2 years ago
@Baldeagle79 Good. Point. Never thought of that one.
davethecritter 1 year ago
@Baldeagle79 Bah. Then he'd have to live his life twice! Isn't living once enough for you?
kvn8907 1 year ago
EXACTLY how it should have ended!!!
Aangkai 2 years ago 3
I just watched Generations recently and this is exactly what I thought he should have done immediately after watching the movie. I mean, you seriously want to go back to a point in time involving imminent danger when you had him right there on the ship before? Well of course not, because the plot demands some action! After all, how else can we drop a bridge on Kirk? Come up with a more respectable death for him you say? Blasphemy!
Alpha0S 2 years ago 2
Sooooooooooooooo true. he could have gone to the very beginning of the movie and stopped everything from ever happening! and then there wouldnt be any movie. There are sooo many movies that have this same plot hole. producers have to be very careful when they do time warp shit.
Angrywritergrrrl 2 years ago 2
oh! this would of been good! i rerember this in '94, this and what dreams may come are good memories.
anewunderstanding 2 years ago 2
I remember sitting in the theater and thinking the same thing. Soren had the trilithium on the station. It was all the evidence Picard needed.
jtkirkfan2002 2 years ago 2
HAHAHAHAHAHA. BLOODY DAMN RIGHT.
crazysalted 2 years ago 2
Wait that makes perfect sense.
comicbookfanboy 2 years ago 69
Now that brought a smile to my face. Yeah... if the writin' hadn't been so sloppy and if they didn't aim to destroy the good ol' Enterprise-D for good, this could have been part of what could have been done, though, obviously, that'd not make it "Generations" in that sense. But it coulda worked, indeed. xD;
GeraldRobotnik 2 years ago 4
ROFL
clokverkorange 2 years ago 7
I love this and is the first thing I thought of when I first watched Generations. But clearly it's all because of the writers that the other way happened for several reasons.
That way we had an 'action packed conclusion and excuse to kill off a certain old captain' .
So Jean-Luc learned his lesson when trying to fight someone like Malcom Mcdowell that he needs to actually learn how to fight, and wear a tank-top at the end of every movie afterwards.
slashbane 2 years ago 2
i thought this myself. also wondered why they want us to believe riker was too stupid to order the shields be reset......gonna destry the ship? fine, dont insult our intelligence in the process. also a comment i saw was funny and true, they cant ADD!! since when does a "spread of torpedoes" mean one torpedo?? worf a drop out? lol
IMDARKFIRE007 2 years ago
in the early seasons of TNG we often saw 1 torpedo being fired and it split into many torpedoes. so presumably all these torpedoes are fired together and look like one torpedo.
so maybe that's what worf fired only that the torpedoes didn't split and all hit the same place together
GeneralGrin 2 years ago
good call......"yesterdays enterprise" comes to mind. still stand by what i say bout them taking us for suckers tho.....what was the FIRST thing the odessey did when the dominion penetrated their shields? reset them. they want us to believe riker wouldnt even bother? bs
IMDARKFIRE007 2 years ago
@GeneralGrin Would explain why what looked like one torpedo took out an entire ship. One of my minor gripes with Star Trek is how resiliant ships are with their sheilds down.
Maybe they were all together in a line, like an ant trail.
Anyway, good video. Turns out there are still some of your videos I haven't seen.
kvn8907 1 year ago
He really should have done that.
DesJonze69 3 years ago 5
Confused Mathew will love this, this is exactly what he said should have happened
TheUKImperial 3 years ago 8
LOL!!!
joel1975 3 years ago 4
GEE the funny thing is that makes 100% perfect SENSE. The movie did not.
Alfrunk 3 years ago 9
this was awesome! i'd never thought of that before, but it's so obvious isn't it?
pigshiss 3 years ago 8
lmao
stevensjobs 3 years ago
AMEN
IMDARKFIRE007 3 years ago
Improved the movie a lot!
QuartuvLarry 3 years ago
Brilliant ending :D.
It would have made much more sense.
DeusExMJ12 3 years ago
lol, that would avoid many problems since the beginning xD
joseph1985 3 years ago
Hahaha!
TomGreenUK 3 years ago
hahahahahaahahah Okay most sensible ending ever.
SmoothCriminal2012 3 years ago 4
wow that would have made so much more sense
SprattyD 3 years ago 8
exactly it would make more sense.
stevensjobs 3 years ago
Hahahahahahaaha,
awesome ending!!!
warp98 3 years ago 2
Brilliant.
DavidRGilson 3 years ago 2
It's such a shame - Generations sucks. The plot is an awkward, hole ridden (as you've so cleverly demonstrated) excuse to get the two captains together (why not just use, you know, time travel?). Kirk dies in a terribly stupid way, for no real purpose. The Enterprise gets its ass royally kicked by a little Bird of Prey. The villain, while interesting, doesn't get nearly enough screen time. Data's emotion chip scenes are (mostly) embarrassing. And I could go on. What a wasted opportunity.
kryptoknightmare 3 years ago 10
u sound like my boss ...when i screw up. lol
especially the part with what a wasted opportunity. i love it.
stevensjobs 3 years ago
Quite possibly the best alternate ending yet.
just64helpin 3 years ago 5
hahaha that's a great point
great1138 3 years ago 3
hahahha
shedininja001 3 years ago 2
lmfao awesome xD haha
1BrknHrtdRomeo 3 years ago 2
LOL. Simply the best one ever.
Treknologist 3 years ago 2