No On Prop 8 East Los Angeles - Christine Chavez

[edgarg2007]

these people are not the voice of latinos

[Marmarciano]

lol of course not... just because you said so. You are the voice from hell.

[stanademas]

Eres una desgracia a la memoria de tu abuelo.

[WallyGeorgeisRIGHT]

The discrimination I see is toward the American nuclear family and their Judeo-Christian values from these radical leftists who use a sexual addiction to force their ideology upon the majority. Shame on them.

[LeighbyTM]

I think that gay people should be allowed to get married! If god doesn't want people marrying same sex couples, why the fuck would he allow people to BE gay in the first place? It's a hormonal in-balance with your estrogen and testosterone, guys have more estrogen which makes them gay, and vis versa for girls. Maybe if that didn't happen, their wouldn't be gay people! I have gay friends, and I love them, their is nothing wrong with them and they should bloody have the same rights I do!

[WallyGeorgeisRIGHT]

Those addicted to this particular sexual addiction already have legal civil unions LeighbyTM. What they really want is to force society to say that GOD approves of their sexual addiction union and that goes against both the Bible and the beliefs of tens of millions of Christians in this country. NO on any of this.

[Timmyflare]

But it wasn't to get married under god's law but under the law of california. We don't want religious people to view our marriage as legal but for the goverment of california too.

[WallyGeorgeisRIGHT]

Sure you do. Homosexuality addicts can engage in civil unions and in California they form domestic partnerships which are legal relationships available to same-sex couples affording them "the same rights, protections, and benefits, and shall be subject to the same responsibilities, obligations, and duties under law..." as married spouses.

The marriage push was ALL about trying to force down non-homosexually addicted people a false ideology that God approves of their lifestyle.

[Timmyflare]

Civil Unions are NOT Equal in that they do not afford the same legal rights, protections, benefits or liberties of Legal Marriage.

Neither are federally recognized...and this is the real issue. I want to marry under the California Constitution, not under god since i guess, he hates gays. That which is a contradiction and not proven likely.

[WallyGeorgeisRIGHT]

First of all Timmy you already have exactly the same rights as I do. And in the state I live in the domestic partnership law does provide the same legal rights, protections, benefits, and liberties of legal marriage. And God doesn't hate you, of course not, he hates the sexual addiction homosexuals are involved in just like he hates drug addiction Timmy. Those addictions damage and changes people for the worse. The problem is they become deluded and begin to view their addictions as normal.

[Timmyflare]

I know god doesn't hate me or other homosexuals. People just misinterpret the bible. Like the bible says" the one with out sin shall throw the first rock." and it also says "Jesus loved the sinner but not the sin." Its really hard to change attraction, and people don't understand that. They think its a choice, when its not. We don't have mutual rights, I don't have the right to call him my "husband", i have to say "partner". We learned long ago that "seperate but equal" is a farce.

[WallyGeorgeisRIGHT]

The Bible is clear that homosexuality is a sin. Hate the sin but love the sinner. Addiction and propensity towards addiction takes all forms. There are entire halls filled with men who have been delivered from sexual addiction including ex-homosexuals. I don't know where you live but if it's in California check out the SA group at Celebrate Recovery.

[Timmyflare]

They have been delivered? I have never had sex but im not attracted to girls romantically

, or sexually as i am to guys.

[WHATNAMETHEN00]

that bitch way different from cesar. she is all politics and fame shit......

[WHATNAMETHEN00]

fuk u modda fuker below me,shit.... u dont even know what the fuk u are saying. Have some respect for the UFW. By the way i voted yes on propositon 8 and most people in east los approve prop 8 cus of their moral values shit........

[yessson8]

UFW is just as bad as the FAGGOT agenda

Soviet like tactics to force their disgusting point of view on others

Just say NO

[WHATNAMETHEN00]

ur fuken stupid you must have some respect for the UFW...soviet tactics.....fuk up...and byt the way i voted yes on 8 but you misrepresenting this group delete you comment.

[paul19781105]

and another thing. The only thing in this world that changes over night is the time of the day. So dont expect change to come in an instant. Like every victory, you must work at it. And sometimes you must accept defeat to fight a better battle in the future. But dont forget that this is a Democracy where majority rules. You want to win? Stop protesting and come up with something both sides can agree upon so we can all put this behind us.

[paul19781105]

This is the problem with the Prop 8 debate. If the No's would have won it, that would mean all churches in California would have to go against their beliefs and marry gay couples. Gay is a sin in Christianity. Churches dont want a part of this. But what the gay community wants is clashing. Keep gay marriage out of churches that uphold God's word, and this bickering will be over. I dont care if gays want to get married. Just keep it out of churches where their bibles say no. Its that simple.

[WallyGeorgeisRIGHT]

They would put Pastors in prison paul if they could for not compromising on THEIR beliefs.

[paul19781105]

Christine Chavez is only using her father's name for her own self promotion. Equality is already set in place. They would recognize it they would pick up the damn law books and actually read it!

[Rioonbicycle]

oh how stereotypical American to just bring in RELIGION into the debates. I thought you guys were a fan of CHURCH AND STATE. Americans have NO RIGHT to call themselves the land of the free after the ways you treat your gay population. oh and for your information, I researched the California Code, and your code leaves out so many rights to the civil union/domestic partnership there. I say, shame on all of you, so stop being douches and insulting others for their lack of freedom while look at you!

[paul19781105]

If there is flaws, in it, then its just a matter of time before they becomes 100%. You seem to forget that its a fairly new code. There's room for improvement. And the only reason religion is involved is because gays are mad the mormons pumps millions in support. Was it legal? yes. So why didnt the rich gays come together to do the same for their side? Churches are mad because saying no would persecute churches for upholding their beliefs. Its not about being married. Its about where.

[Rioonbicycle]

I live in Spain, and we legalized gay marriage, nothing bad happen here. You Americans are so stupid

[paul19781105]

Spain is not America stupido! Shut you fuckin blowjob! Go run head first into a bull! Yes on Prop 8 to preserve the religious sanctity of marriage! Gays already have the right to marry under California Family Code 297.5 (a)

[LILMISSCUPCAKE2009]

no on 8..... =]

[singinjazz23]

Boxa1234 keep your religion off people's civil rights.

[Boxa1234]

Its not about religion. I'm sure an atheist could make a case against something that never existed like "gay marriage". Does "gay marriage" go against the peoples religious beliefs? Sure, Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc. We live in pluralistic society were no matter what your faith is you had the right to vote. And the people did. For 5,000 plus years marriage has been between man and women.

[angelitomelodia]

Boxa1234, why do u guys keep bringing up bestiality and polygamy when discussing gay marriage? What's the correlation? We are fighting for the rights of TWO CONSENTING ADULTS to marry. If u are against same sex marriage, well, don't marry someone of the same sex, no one is forcing you. All we want is EQUALITY FOR ALL, not special treatment. Now that Prop 8 has passed, I'm sure many of u are ecstatic that we have created a new group of second-class citizens. That's democracy at its best!!!

[LaReinaDelBarrio]

NO SOY GALLINA! QUITASTE MIS DERECHOS! NO ME PIDEN PO R NADA FREGADOS!

Ms. LaReina DelBarrio

[LaReinaDelBarrio]

Apparently many Latinos voted YES on 8. I SHALL NO LONGER PROMOTE EAST LA. Ask Oscar De La Joya to put on a dress. I will confront you on the street and ask you how you voted and if you don't say no, I will read your beans in front of a crowd. Chupame por quitar mis drechos, mis hermanos Latinos. CHUPAME!

[angelitomelodia]

I dont see how gay marriage threatens heterosexual marriages. Leaving religion aside, can someone give tangible examples on how your "straight marriages" have been affected since gay people began getting, legally, married in California? Let me tell you what the real threats to your marriages are: divorce, domestic violence, deadbeat parents, unfit parents, machismo etc. U should focus your energy on fighting these maladies, not fighting people who, regardless of their gender, love each other.

[master6of6omens6]

Well said. Most of the funding for prop HATE is coming from some mormon dipshit in Navada anyway... I really wish people weren't stupid enough to try to mix church and state.

[Boxa1234]

If homosexuals have the right to marry

than what stops a polygamist from getting married? Or somebody who's really in love with their animal? Society has the right to draw the line. Another reason is the homosexual agenda being indoctrinated into the kids of families who are against it.

(keep your sexual choices to yourselves)

Another reason is forcing churches to marry homosexuals. Families do go to church so it affects them their also.

[master6of6omens6]

Somebody who's really in love with their animal will FUCK it, seeing as the animal belongs to them. Marriage won't mean anything to somebody who really is in love with their animal. Who cares about the families that are against it? They should be cleansed of homophobia anyway. Also, somebody who's promoting the persecution of another orientation saying keep your sexual choices to yourselves seems kindof self confronting, don't you think?

[angelitomelodia]

Marist83USA, if you so defend the core values and traditions on which this nation was founded, why don't we go back to that time & lets take away from women the right to vote, make all african american slaves again, and let only the educated ones be able to vote. This was all Ok and legal back then! If u think civil union r OK for gays, why don't we turn things around and take away from u the right to marry and give you civil unions, u should be more than happy with that , right?

[angelitomelodia]

Ismaelpa, religion has nothing to do with wrong or right, on the contrary, on many instances religion is the cause of many of our problems. I don't need religion to guide my life and to know what's wrong or right. I know that killing or stealing or raping is wrong. What's wrong is what people like you are trying to do by having your distorted and hateful ideas inserted in the CA constitution. Your religious beliefs belong in your church, not in my house.

[Marist83USA]

PROP 8 will pass today whether you like it or not. This is not just a moral issue, but a social & legal issue that runs counter to our core values & traditions from which this nation was founded on.  Stop judicial activism & be content with your civil-union. Be thankful you can still love but don't redefine what common-sense means! We have rights too, you know.

[NicePeopleGive]

haha

[AWakeWoman155]

Obama will say anything to get a vote. Him and Biden say just the opposite about gay marriage here, and every responsible voter should watch it:

/watch?v=l73BT6TWGj8

Do you REALLY know who your voting for?

[namordecai]

Gays have identical rights with domestic partnerships aka civil unions, even after prop. 8 passes. Prop. 8 simply defines the word, so that our cultural heritage can speak louder than corrupt judges. REAL marriage is about procreation, sacrifice and preparing children for their own family life. Protect the value of marriage by protecting its unique status in society.

[Ismaelpa]

Christine Chavez Im a third generation Mexican American and my father and his father were farm workers and Im insulted that you would hijack a cause to promte a perverted lifestlye your grandfather would turnover in his grave if he heard your the basura your promoting under the cause.

[busterbeeps]

Wonderful speech, Christine!

[LiluBob]

Enough is enough! Only the facts will answer everyone's questions and opinions. Please view the facts at: .com/watch?v=4JZIJnJWZBQ

[nathanisasupastar]

You know, cause it doesn't say ANYWHERE that church and state should be seperated.

No on 8!

[megamatthu]

faggot lovers

[gkundo]

Thank you  Ms. Chavez. Thank you. Cesar Chavez fought for civil rights and liberties and equality. He didn't fight for latino civil rights so that they can take it away from others. That's not the spirit of the equality that Cesar Chavez fought for.

So I thank you for continuing the good faith of his work by honoring equality and condemning discrimination. It almost brought tears to my eyes the other on a bus, i passed latino groups supporting prop 8. I was appalled.

[Ismaelpa]

Chavez fought for human rights not perversion. "I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian, it's also a sacred union. God's in the mix."

— Sen. Barack Obama, Interview with Rick Warren,

Saddleback Church, August 16, 2008

[gkundo]

you call gay marriage perversion because you believe the loving union to be one way, your way, or in religious way. You're speaking in biased terms, not fair terms. Your view is just the same as when whites believed/considered blacks to be animals and lower life forms. Your belief is of Aristotle when he claimed some living beings are slaves by nature. Your beliefs are the same as Hitler believing that impure bloods are truly impure and a perversion of purity. You're justifying discrimination.

[gkundo]

ismaelpa, you call gay marriage perversion because you believe the loving union to be one way, your way, or in religious way. You're speaking in biased terms, not fair terms. Your view is just the same as when whites believed/considered blacks to be animals and lower life forms. Your belief is of Aristotle when he claimed some living beings are slaves by nature. Your beliefs are same as Hitler believing that impure bloods are truly impure and a perversion of purity. You justify discrimination

[Ismaelpa]

God given traits like the color of your skin or your gender are beutiful no matter what , It is a an insult to compare the the color of black people to ones sexual perversion , things pheodophilia , homosexuality , beastyoloy are all unnatural and perverted acts not God given traits.

[gkundo]

Love and diversity, the free-WILL and freedom of thought, belief, and choice, is a God-given trait. And Love,... LOVE.. is God's greatest gift. And a gay couple loves each other with the same emotion and devotion as a straight couple. The only deviation from God, in this light, is your hatred... it stands out like a beacon of hell. HATE is not God's trait. Love is God's trait. Gays, straight, both LOVE, while you stand alone, with your hatred. Sinners you are for gathering crowds to hate w/ you

[Ismaelpa]

Taking some one to Hell with you is not love, Romans Ch.1 26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

[gkundo]

i'm not gonna talk with you anymore if you can't even pose a logical, rational argument without the use of religion. this is involving the use of government, church has to be omitted from the argument. I'm deeply religious, but i also understand that AMERICA grants each the freedom to believe and think, thus we all have that RIGHT. Furthermore, I can't impose my religious beliefs on others cuz that takes away their right to believe. so i can only fight for equality/freedom, civil rights

[Ismaelpa]

Ok then lets use your logic and take religion out if there was no right or wrong then anything should be permisable because what you may say is wrong I believe is ok , therefore no matter what anyone says its just an opionion however way you slice it.

[gkundo]

you don't need religion to tell you what is right or wrong. When someone murders your loved ones or steals from you, that's direct harm against you. That's how we as a society determine laws to protect from such harm. As for opinions, yes, to each our own. That is the freedom and civil right of the constitution for everyone... freedom of our opinions. That is why WE, AS A SOCIETY, MUST LEARN TO TOLERATE, ACCEPT DIFFERENCES, AND RESPECT THAT NOT EVERYONE AGREES W/EACH OTHER. Prop8 harms thatright

[Ismaelpa]

"I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian, it's also a sacred union. God's in the mix."

[angelitomelodia]

toastershock, you definition of marriage is totally wrong. I know many couples (straight) who are happily married and don't want any children. According to your brainwashed idea of what marriage should be, these people shouldn't have the right to be married, right? And what about sterile people, since they cannot procreate, should we also deny them the right to marry? What about athiests? Marriage shuld be about LOVE and that's all.

[Ismaelpa]

"I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian, it's also a sacred union. God's in the mix."

— Sen. Barack Obama, Interview with Rick Warren,

Saddleback Church, August 16, 2008

[toastershock]

VOTE YES ON PROP 8.

Attaching the word marriage to the association of same-sex individuals mistakenly presumes that marriage is principally a matter of adult benefits and rights. In fact, marriage is about the nurturing and development of children. And the successful development of children is critical to the preservation and success of our nation.

The ideal setting for nurturing and developing children is a home where there is a mother and a father.

Think "biology, NOT bigotry".

YES ON 8.

[latinlover6194]

fuck you yes on 8 you damn pig you suck why try to take a legal right just froma group of individuals. thats segregating people why do you support such bullshit crap we are human beings and we have rights ald why dont they take away the right to divorce huh? so fuck you and go to hell;

[ShutterBug717]

YES ON 8 = HATE...you so called rightous religious freaks get off of my rights. NO ON PROP 8!

[Maharet69]

Vot FUCK NO ON PROP 8

[globalgringo]

Racist Illegal Aliens and HOMOS...a match made in heaven

[livetime77]

liberals.....

[MONEYTOON8]

FUCK THAT!

Yes on 8

[webmike720]

stupid christian think there going to loose the religious freedoms, wow, idiots. read the god damn prop, yes on 8 campaign is full of shit, they lie about gay marriage being taught in schools, and i talk to a school teacher about the law, and she said it's not like massachusettes, california is about freedom not religion, freedom to the pursuit of happiness!!! Vote NO on 8!!!

[sweetupcampaigners]

Vote straight on 8 and stop helping Obama change the Constitution.

[NObama2012]

One of the central reasons for the State defining marriage contracts is to establish a stable environment for the raising of children.

Every child is best served in a home with both a mother and a father. Of course this is not always possible in cases of separation or death, but the State should endorse the family unit best for raising our children.

Prop 8 does not take away rights, as gays have all the same rights under Family Code § 297.5. But every child deserves a mother and a father.

[pydbl]

haha, you are really funny. If a mother and a father are the foundation of a stable environment, it really strikes me as utmostly inconceivable as to why there are so many kids who live in messed up hetero-normative families.

[ningirl86]

NO ON PROP 8

[LOVEEET]

Save innocent children from child predators..Vote yes on prop 8 so we may give children a chance...Children will be forced into homosexual homes and not be allowed to have a mom and a dad. Every child deserves a mommy and a daddy voting NO gives child predators a way in!

Vote yes on 8 Save the children

[mapdark]

If you can't say anything but bullshit just shut up

[yueyouko]

are you saying that homosexuals are child predators? are you off in the head?

[alextsushko]

what ta hell are talking about go take a nap

[saturyne]

Mormon and voting No on 8!

[dammitdexter]

Latino Americanos rechazan a Proposicion 8. Es discriminación. Por favor, vote NO en la 8.

[juxblaze]

Latinos are gay.

[dammitdexter]

Yes, and you masturbate to them.

[Goyena94]

And we suck your dick when you wife is not looking

[yueyouko]

and you are an idiot.

[dammitdexter]

Proposicion 8 ES discriminación. Nosotros Latinos sabemos muy bien lo que es discriminación. Esta gente mala desea cambiar la ley en California para quitar las derechas existentes. La ley de California reconoce la derecha de TODA la gente para casar, y proteger esa derecha.

Esta mala gente es la misma gente que no desea a nosotros latinos aqui en "su tierra". Son mala gente que no desea a cualquier persona que no sea como ella.

Vamos a votar NO en Proposicion 8 porque ES discriminación.

[alesiempregana]

Dude, your Spanish sucks. I'm not listening to a guy who can't his Spanish straight. You sound like a wannabe. Go back to college and get it straightened out...

[dammitdexter]

Ensamblemos junto con Alcalde Antonio Villaraigosa de Los Ángeles y los alcaldes de San Diego y de San Francisco, La Unión de Campesinos, La Opinión, Coalición de Latinos Para la Justicia, Defensa y El Fondo Legal Mexicano Americano de la Educación (MALDEF), y nuestra comunidad para proteger las derechas civiles bajo ley y a votar NO! sobre Proposicion 8.

[ImNotGayYesonprop8]

Yes on 8 its that simple

[yueyouko]

your simplicity is way too complex.

[depfox]

I have always fought for people to have equale rights. I was anti prop 187 to take away basic human rights from latinos i hope latinos do the same for my family