I've been a vegetarian for 12 years. I nearly died for the lack of protein. I wish I could eat meat, but I can't stomach putting a dead corpse in my mouth. I know first hand that the lack of protein can cause serious health issues. It is not hypocritical to eat meat. Doing what is necessary to survive is not hypocrisy.
@DonMega187 Wildlife is not meant to be guided. You eat what is available, morals is a result of an agreement between two or more people. Nature has no morals.
it's not hypocricy. it's selective. just like a lion eats certain species over others. then u would also be saying a person who doesn't like pets has the right to eat animals more than others. there is people who are not into pets u know. having pets is a sort of modern quirkiness, as before not many had need for pets. a dog had been used for watching over the livestock rather than a pet.
Cats: Were evolved through artificial selection to hunt and kill rats in Ancient Egypt.
Dogs: Were evolved through artificial selection, from wolves, to HELP US HUNT.
In the grand scheme of things, think of it this way; cows, pigs and chickens were artificially selected as a food source, from this, relatively speaking, they're all incredibly successful species. Because they're of value to us, we've done a LOT to keep their species going.
@Vehementi Basically, we're omnivorous, we can eat plant matter and animal matter. Our teeth are designed, as well as our whole digestive system, to be able to handle meat and plants. For example, we have canines for a reason - to tear off flesh.
Also, as soon as we were able to cook meat, our brains grew in size as a result, resulting in our dominance in the animal world.
Just look at our teeth - we have incisors to chop food, we have canines to tear flesh and molars to crush and grind food.
@Vehementi We're not herbivores - our digestive system has incredible difficulty in digesting plant matter.
The fact is, we've evolved on an omnivourous diet, eating both meat and plants. Eventually we evolved to be able to direct other animals to be able to help us survive. We've also evolved love, which when combined with the ability to raise certain animals, results in us seeing them as our own. We wouldn't eat a dog or a cat because we've given rise to dogs and cats, to help us.
@Vehementi dog's evolution isn't as simple as that. there's coyotes,dingos etc wild dog species.the wolf myth is a popular tale. man didn't evolve these in the beginning as they were evolving already into different types of dog
the day there's less chickens than there is humans is the day we'll appreciate chickens? wrong, many species are already endangered having only few remaining, yet we fail to do enough to even help them live. even though we're the main cause for their sudden extinction.
@Vehementi these species were indeed selected by us and further changed by our selective breeding into what they are today. even so it doesn't make them anymore our creation than still animals of their own species. if u tell a dog to come live with u he will run away into the wild. same thing with a cow, no matter how artificially we have tried to make them domesticated which they are not. therefore they should be given chance to live their life, rather than sticking 100 of them in the same room
The first mistake is when people start seeing animals as their own. And I blame this on a failure of interpersonal relationships. I understand that vegan/vegetarians have a heart of gold, but they easily forget our role in nature. Our bodies are wired for animal and plant life consumption. Stop talking about animals like they're people. Animals are not people. Go out into the wild with a few hungry ass lions and see how much those cats give a fuck about your feelings. Goddamn people
@Backstabbinbasterd even if lions are killing men at times one shouldn't let fear or hatred interfere with protecting the beauty which lies in such magnificent animals living free in the wild
@Backstabbinbasterd well animals do their choices. i'd say that is out of our reach to interfere with. we as humans do our choices however and we should have morals to guide them
because some animals are for eating. People don't eat some animals for the same reason people don't eat some plants. I could say the same about you. You eat salad, but not roses or tulips. They are both plants why not eat both. now who's hypocritical
@baronvondanger what a load of shit. some animals are for eating but others are not? dogs etc pets certainly are for eating also. man can and will eat pretty much any animal he can get his hands on.
@baronvondanger i don't know the nutritional values of a rose, perhaps it could be eaten, but it's more valuable as given to someone. also many plants are poisonous or taste bad, which does the choice
@bubbabobroy Then the question is why would you support the slaughtering of pigs or cows? They are animals too, right? Have you seen Earthlings on Youtube? These are rhetorical questions that you need to think about. I don't mean to be rude or start a heated debate, nor does this necessarily merit a response. But these are my answers to your question.
@NDfan369 People die every single day because of starvation and lack of nutrition. Do you support the slaughtering of human beings? Would you give up a few cows and a few pigs for the greater good?
@bubbabobroy i'm all for it to eat meat as well, but it's possible to give the animals more fair treatment rather than just grow them as pieces of meats. we're doing a horrible job at it right now
Did you know that there was a time when humans used to eat raw, warm blood dripping animals? Did you also know that the breeding of certain animals for food and/ hunting ensures their continued survival? Did you know that MEAT is nutiritious? You are talking out of your arse!
Well we didn't make it to the top of the food chain to eat grass. Better yet you as a vegetarian/vegan how can you eat a cabbage then turn around and water your bamboo plant? I adore my dog and I eat cow, chicken, lamb, rabbit and whatever else is tasty. Indians worship cows and eat water buffalo, they got it all backwards. Water buffalo I heard is disgusting! they should worship the water buffalo and grill some all beef burgers.
Here in Britain there is now greater awareness of vegetarianism among whites. Eating meat is becoming unsocial just like cigarette smoking etc. I expect in next fifty years 50% of British will be vegetarians.
it's never just about meat.animals used for eggs and dairy products,wool etc are all used and abused and then slaughtered as well as those that are tested on for most drugstore products.all animal products-anything that came from an animal-involved cruelty and almost always ends with the animal being slaughtered.
an animal to eat those nutrients and then store them in its body, means we don't have to eat animals. but since its easier to eat animals then to eat unnatural vegetarian food, well then thers no point. right and wrong don't matter, good and bad do matter; when it becomes easier for people to be vegetarian they will all become vegetarian.
well actually there is a way to quantify the differences between animals, its simple intelligence tests. like the mirror test and all that stuff
you kill bugs but not animals, hypocrit!!! im prety sure people in antartica are either scientists or penguins....I dont think any1 ever argued over the diet of penguins. I have a question that can make all that meaningless (whats wrong with hypocrisy?) also I am psychic and hacked youtube to know that you are canadian! this vid is like a wave, it has more good point and more bad point then the others. how is it our duty to help animals?? our ability to concentrate nutrients without needing
@paenitet7nullum i am not sure which comment you responded to but why do you say i kill bugs? there is a big difference between killing intentionally and killing unintentionally and you are wrong,it is better to consume plants directly rather than first putting them through animals.the human anatomy is not designed to eat animals,it is an old and bad habit.i cannot teach you everything i know here on this page but you can learn with google if you so choose.
@funklemonde yea but if we were meant to plants then why would we have eaten meat before we knew anything about....anything. we are hunters, the simple impulsion to hunt and kill still affects us in many ways,(especially men). ugh okay it can be a really long explanation but anyways. why are we so good at running long distances. there is no reason we would need that if we were herbivore animals. hell if we were herbivore we wouldn't need intelligence, no cow ever needed intelligence. but we do
@paenitet7nullum If it were natural to eat meat then why do we have pets? Do Lions have baby zebra pets? Why do we not salivate in the presence of animals? We evolved from vegetarian primates. We are about half a chromosome away from them. When you see a cow in the field do you have an urge to sink your teeth into it's flesh. Our intelligence is are greatest strength but when in the wrong hands it is our greatest sin. Slaughtering animals makes money.
@LuckynumberSlevin11 umm yea.... chimpanzees wich are our closest genetic "relative" are omnivors and are known to hunt for meat. so yea ur argument is totally invalid. if lions could have pet zebra's they would. besides i remember hearing about a lion who adopted some kind of deer, i'm pretty sure she ate it eventually.
i don't know how ppl can argue that humans aren't designed to eat meat, i mean why would we even need intelligence at all if we were herbovires. What, to outsmart plants??
@paenitet7nullum Our human digestive system is inefficient at digesting meat. We are designed to be fueled on carbohydrates from a plant-based wholegrain diet. This is science not bullshit that clearly comes out of your mouth.
@paenitet7nullum So you have just said that all we need intelligence for is for eating meat. I am finished talking with someone this dull and stupid. I hope you feel more educated after our discussion. Goodbye.
@LuckynumberSlevin11 you have failed to provide anything more then opinions on your side of the argument. yes I did say that the reason we have intelligence is to eat meat. again you failed to disprove anything i had to say. besides how could we have evolved to eat mostly grain since the only way to eat alot of it is to farm it??? only birds are meant to eat lots of grain. the fact that you think that shows that you know nothing about this subject. so I would suggest you to do some research.
@LuckynumberSlevin11 even birds don't feed grain to their babies, they feed them bugs. actually the reason that meat can be unhealthy is that the meat was grown with wheat. and no we never had time to fully evolve into a fully carnivorous animal because we gained the ability to cook meat before we gained the ability to digest larg amounts of raw meat. because technology moves faster then evolution. and we don't need intelligence to eat plants! yet we are(most of us) intelligent.
As I always maintain, taking advantage of our own logic to benefit ourselves at the cost of those who have not the same possibilities is the most dishonest, hypocrite, filthy, coward attitude that we can have.
I'm totally agree with you. Every time I see at my loyal dog's eyes, I think if she were born as a cow, a chicken, a goat or a pig, she would be suffering right now. If we don't eat a dog, what do we have to eat other animals? They feel the same, They suffer the same, They love the same. I hope people realize the cruelty that involves eating meat.
hmm my pets gone die with no meat ..try to feed a Bengal Cat some carrots it wont work ..and would i not be a hypocrite if i feed my pets meat and not eat any my self ?...hard question its not just black and white
I agree...that's why I'm vegan and healthy. Meat defenders should ask themselves, would they want to be reborn as one of these animals? Would they not hope every human being had gone vegan by then? The lions and such must kill and eat meat, or die; that is not the case for people. We're supposed to be moral and loving like you say, and civilized...innovators. Meat eating flies in the face of all that, shamefully.
@1221solstice2012 wow failed comment. your comment is wrong on such a deep level. first of all, dead people dont come back, even if they did they wouldnt care because that are dead
@1221solstice2012 either they are dead or they would be chickens, stupid little chickens who dont know anything. we are supposed to be moral and loving, that is part of what made us such a success as a species, but we are supposed to love EACH OTHER. i don't see civilized in our genetic code so thats wrong. ah innovators now we're getting somwhere. why are we innovators? how could it possibly help us to eat veggies? it can't. innovation was "invented" to hunt and kill animals. then 4 other stuff
@paenitet7nullum Yeah, stay out of my inbox with your pathetic drivel, thanks, you have no love for anything, let alone other human beings who love animals. Your "genetic code" has been screwed up from the beginning. What you said here in all these comments is disgusting nonsense, I'm sick to death of people like you spouting this garbage. Do not reply to me again.
Outstanding video Haridham! It always just seems so ridiculous. We just select animals that are cute a fluffy to be pets and they are taboo to harm but other animals oh different story! Ridiculous. I also find it very funny when they say we are the "superior species" so we have the right to. But if we were truly superior wouldn't we just be more responsible for our actions? Wouldn't it then be even more important that we act with compassion and respect?
I've always felt this way, even when I used to eat meat. Now my conscious is clear, however, I'm perplexed, Haridham, about the feeding of meat to pets. So I turn to your take and beliefs to help shape mine!
The grim reality is that humans are selfish biological scheming machines. They assign value to sentient creatures welfare simply because they have the power to do so. This is no different than packs of lions ganging up on a baby zebra and devouring it. Reality is we can not change what we are completely. Yes we can change the diet. But the only rational approach to stopping suffering completely is to end all life by way of nuclear weapons. If not the suffering continues, and THATS hypocritical.
The problem I always have with these is that there is two ways out of what vegs think is hypocritical.
As I said before, this is simply preference, familiarity, and responsibility, which is always under the umbrella of society.
Anyway, the choice vegs want you to take is to not eat cows and chickens because you like cats and dogs. However, the other answer, which they don't want you to take, is to eat cats and dogs, along with cows and pigs. Thus, no hypocrisy, though there never was.
@BLHProductions if you woke up 1 day to find you were no longer the dominant creature on the planet you would not want to be treated the way the animals who are killed are treated. thus, unless you deal with animals as you'd want to be dealt with, you're hypocritical...
@Playitalready: Do you mean like if aliens came to earth or is this more a Time Machine by H. G. Wells scenario?
If I was physically unable to defend myself, it really wouldn't matter what I thought would it? Much like a lion killing a zebra, the zebra doesn't want to die, but neither does the lion. The zebra will try to get away, the lion will try to catch it. One wins, one looses. That is the way of life. On humans have a problem with that.
@BLHProductions ...p.s. in case i can't get back to read/reply here check my animal rights video regarding health/econonmic/religious etc. arguments that tend to result, and note i don't say eating meat when there's no choice is bad i was refering to like how we can raise cows nice (and get diary) from them and can raise plants nice and get many veggie meals but don't be an ignorant hypocrite by treating animals differently than you'd want to be treated. sub me if you want
@Playitalready: See, there is a problem with that. It's the Golden Rule argument, and that argument is flawed. See, there was this guy from Germany, who got off on the idea of being eaten. His BF got off on eating people. So the guy allowed himself to be eaten. By the Golden Rule argument's logic, the guy who was allowing himself to be eaten could eat any animal or human morally, since he was eaten too. And yes, he was killed in the process of being eaten. This is known as vore.
You can have preference for some animals over others. For example, you care about your family and friends right? Well, the way this argument seems to be going, caring for your friends and family over strangers means you are a hypocrite.
The problem here is that humans don't really use sentience of species to judge importance. They use familiarity and responsibility. That's why vegs are not hypocrites for not helping every single animal from common pets to insects.
I love dogs, but don't plan on getting any since dogfood is a slaughterhouse product. I guess I could get some goats or other herbivorous animals to keep as pets, but why do that? Let them live out in the wild where they can be free and have some life purpose. We don't need to keep animals as pets. It's like forcing an animal to be your friend and always be there for you against their will... Kinda scary if you really think about it.
@1imesub: Except that the animals have been known to travel great distances to be with their family and do not always run away when given the opportunity to.
My dog randomly showed up one day as an older puppy. Thinking it might belong to someone around our area my step-dad dropped her off 3 times, each time farther away from our house. The 3rd time, she beat him home.
@BLHProductions See, if you're not eating animals, you're beating them. What is wrong with you dude? You could justify the holocaust if you were guilty of participating in it. You have no remorse, no guilt... no conscience?
@1imesub: If you are not going to actually contribute anything, I would humbly ask you to not respond. Just because I know that you are trying to troll in lieu of an actual argument doesn't mean that other people will know that, and may actually take you seriously and forever see vegs as complete idiots, which pretty much already happens, except it's usually grasping at straws and not trolling that causes the believe that they are intellectually inferior, leading to "protein arguments."
@1imesub: Personally, asking them if they ever ate PBJ as a kid would be better to prove one can go without eating meat. Of course, the ability to do without is not a reason to do without, and there are ex-vegs we whould say that the ability to go without is limited.
For example, you could go without food every day and likely not die or have serious problems. Does this mean yuo should? Not at all.
@MelissaAnnTard: Not really. You can go for about 3 weeks without food, there was also a study where a fat many, under continuous medical watch you understand, lost over 200 pounds in about a year by not eating anything with no ill effects, though I don't know how valid that is.
Of course, this doesn't address a key issue, do you need to keep on living if your death would be less harmful than to continue living?
great video. so true, speciesist's are highly hypocritical and don't realize it but I'll definitely share this video cause once people become aware that there views are flawed and inconsistent, they may think more about it.
I've been a vegetarian for 12 years. I nearly died for the lack of protein. I wish I could eat meat, but I can't stomach putting a dead corpse in my mouth. I know first hand that the lack of protein can cause serious health issues. It is not hypocritical to eat meat. Doing what is necessary to survive is not hypocrisy.
alvagoldbook2 2 days ago
@DonMega187 Wildlife is not meant to be guided. You eat what is available, morals is a result of an agreement between two or more people. Nature has no morals.
Backstabbinbasterd 3 days ago
it's not hypocricy. it's selective. just like a lion eats certain species over others. then u would also be saying a person who doesn't like pets has the right to eat animals more than others. there is people who are not into pets u know. having pets is a sort of modern quirkiness, as before not many had need for pets. a dog had been used for watching over the livestock rather than a pet.
DonMega187 3 days ago
Cats: Were evolved through artificial selection to hunt and kill rats in Ancient Egypt.
Dogs: Were evolved through artificial selection, from wolves, to HELP US HUNT.
In the grand scheme of things, think of it this way; cows, pigs and chickens were artificially selected as a food source, from this, relatively speaking, they're all incredibly successful species. Because they're of value to us, we've done a LOT to keep their species going.
There's more chickens in the world than humans.
Vehementi 6 days ago
@Vehementi Basically, we're omnivorous, we can eat plant matter and animal matter. Our teeth are designed, as well as our whole digestive system, to be able to handle meat and plants. For example, we have canines for a reason - to tear off flesh.
Also, as soon as we were able to cook meat, our brains grew in size as a result, resulting in our dominance in the animal world.
Just look at our teeth - we have incisors to chop food, we have canines to tear flesh and molars to crush and grind food.
Vehementi 6 days ago
@Vehementi We're not herbivores - our digestive system has incredible difficulty in digesting plant matter.
The fact is, we've evolved on an omnivourous diet, eating both meat and plants. Eventually we evolved to be able to direct other animals to be able to help us survive. We've also evolved love, which when combined with the ability to raise certain animals, results in us seeing them as our own. We wouldn't eat a dog or a cat because we've given rise to dogs and cats, to help us.
Vehementi 6 days ago
@Vehementi dog's evolution isn't as simple as that. there's coyotes,dingos etc wild dog species.the wolf myth is a popular tale. man didn't evolve these in the beginning as they were evolving already into different types of dog
the day there's less chickens than there is humans is the day we'll appreciate chickens? wrong, many species are already endangered having only few remaining, yet we fail to do enough to even help them live. even though we're the main cause for their sudden extinction.
DonMega187 3 days ago
@Vehementi these species were indeed selected by us and further changed by our selective breeding into what they are today. even so it doesn't make them anymore our creation than still animals of their own species. if u tell a dog to come live with u he will run away into the wild. same thing with a cow, no matter how artificially we have tried to make them domesticated which they are not. therefore they should be given chance to live their life, rather than sticking 100 of them in the same room
DonMega187 3 days ago
The first mistake is when people start seeing animals as their own. And I blame this on a failure of interpersonal relationships. I understand that vegan/vegetarians have a heart of gold, but they easily forget our role in nature. Our bodies are wired for animal and plant life consumption. Stop talking about animals like they're people. Animals are not people. Go out into the wild with a few hungry ass lions and see how much those cats give a fuck about your feelings. Goddamn people
Backstabbinbasterd 6 days ago
@Backstabbinbasterd even if lions are killing men at times one shouldn't let fear or hatred interfere with protecting the beauty which lies in such magnificent animals living free in the wild
DonMega187 3 days ago
@DonMega187 Animals eat each other. You want to govern them too?
Backstabbinbasterd 3 days ago
@Backstabbinbasterd well animals do their choices. i'd say that is out of our reach to interfere with. we as humans do our choices however and we should have morals to guide them
DonMega187 3 days ago
because some animals are for eating. People don't eat some animals for the same reason people don't eat some plants. I could say the same about you. You eat salad, but not roses or tulips. They are both plants why not eat both. now who's hypocritical
baronvondanger 1 week ago
@baronvondanger what a load of shit. some animals are for eating but others are not? dogs etc pets certainly are for eating also. man can and will eat pretty much any animal he can get his hands on.
DonMega187 3 days ago
@baronvondanger i don't know the nutritional values of a rose, perhaps it could be eaten, but it's more valuable as given to someone. also many plants are poisonous or taste bad, which does the choice
DonMega187 3 days ago
Pretty damn sure I'm not gonna eat my dog, but thanks anyways?
bubbabobroy 1 week ago
@bubbabobroy Then the question is why would you support the slaughtering of pigs or cows? They are animals too, right? Have you seen Earthlings on Youtube? These are rhetorical questions that you need to think about. I don't mean to be rude or start a heated debate, nor does this necessarily merit a response. But these are my answers to your question.
Cheers, NDfan
NDfan369 1 week ago
@NDfan369 People die every single day because of starvation and lack of nutrition. Do you support the slaughtering of human beings? Would you give up a few cows and a few pigs for the greater good?
bubbabobroy 1 week ago
@bubbabobroy i'm all for it to eat meat as well, but it's possible to give the animals more fair treatment rather than just grow them as pieces of meats. we're doing a horrible job at it right now
DonMega187 3 days ago
people eat cats and dogs btw, just sayin
Lukasjr 1 week ago
Did you know that there was a time when humans used to eat raw, warm blood dripping animals? Did you also know that the breeding of certain animals for food and/ hunting ensures their continued survival? Did you know that MEAT is nutiritious? You are talking out of your arse!
b17vic 1 week ago
@b17vic you made a spelling mistake!
b17vic 1 week ago
@b17vic It wasn't my fault. . . . just like the crappy sound on some videos Utube messed up my text :-D
b17vic 1 week ago
Krsna people worship tulsi (basil) yet eat basil in their food. Hypocritical indeed.....
thecommercialedge 1 week ago
I don't eat my cat because he wouldn't taste good.
AdamTehBoss 2 weeks ago
Well we didn't make it to the top of the food chain to eat grass. Better yet you as a vegetarian/vegan how can you eat a cabbage then turn around and water your bamboo plant? I adore my dog and I eat cow, chicken, lamb, rabbit and whatever else is tasty. Indians worship cows and eat water buffalo, they got it all backwards. Water buffalo I heard is disgusting! they should worship the water buffalo and grill some all beef burgers.
SpictacularJon 3 weeks ago
He is right so I did that. I ended up eating my dog he tasted good =D. NumNumNumNum
fbibarbie 3 weeks ago
guesssss whatttttt people will continue eating meat.
1. animals are here to be eaten why do you think theyre so stupid
2. your ranting isnt doing anything but exiting the vegetarians out there
TRIGGERZMLG 3 weeks ago
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LuckynumberSlevin11 3 weeks ago
Here in Britain there is now greater awareness of vegetarianism among whites. Eating meat is becoming unsocial just like cigarette smoking etc. I expect in next fifty years 50% of British will be vegetarians.
sudhir911 1 month ago
@sudhir911 You think so. I think you are extremely hopeful at best. Humans have still a lot of evolving.
LuckynumberSlevin11 3 weeks ago
Well said!
gyrate4 1 month ago
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gyrate4 1 month ago
even horses used for carriage rides and racing dogs and horses are very often slaughtered.dog and cat breeding is cruel too.
funklemonde 1 month ago
it's never just about meat.animals used for eggs and dairy products,wool etc are all used and abused and then slaughtered as well as those that are tested on for most drugstore products.all animal products-anything that came from an animal-involved cruelty and almost always ends with the animal being slaughtered.
funklemonde 1 month ago
an animal to eat those nutrients and then store them in its body, means we don't have to eat animals. but since its easier to eat animals then to eat unnatural vegetarian food, well then thers no point. right and wrong don't matter, good and bad do matter; when it becomes easier for people to be vegetarian they will all become vegetarian.
well actually there is a way to quantify the differences between animals, its simple intelligence tests. like the mirror test and all that stuff
paenitet7nullum 1 month ago
you kill bugs but not animals, hypocrit!!! im prety sure people in antartica are either scientists or penguins....I dont think any1 ever argued over the diet of penguins. I have a question that can make all that meaningless (whats wrong with hypocrisy?) also I am psychic and hacked youtube to know that you are canadian! this vid is like a wave, it has more good point and more bad point then the others. how is it our duty to help animals?? our ability to concentrate nutrients without needing
paenitet7nullum 1 month ago
@paenitet7nullum i am not sure which comment you responded to but why do you say i kill bugs? there is a big difference between killing intentionally and killing unintentionally and you are wrong,it is better to consume plants directly rather than first putting them through animals.the human anatomy is not designed to eat animals,it is an old and bad habit.i cannot teach you everything i know here on this page but you can learn with google if you so choose.
funklemonde 1 month ago
@funklemonde yea but if we were meant to plants then why would we have eaten meat before we knew anything about....anything. we are hunters, the simple impulsion to hunt and kill still affects us in many ways,(especially men). ugh okay it can be a really long explanation but anyways. why are we so good at running long distances. there is no reason we would need that if we were herbivore animals. hell if we were herbivore we wouldn't need intelligence, no cow ever needed intelligence. but we do
paenitet7nullum 1 month ago
@paenitet7nullum If it were natural to eat meat then why do we have pets? Do Lions have baby zebra pets? Why do we not salivate in the presence of animals? We evolved from vegetarian primates. We are about half a chromosome away from them. When you see a cow in the field do you have an urge to sink your teeth into it's flesh. Our intelligence is are greatest strength but when in the wrong hands it is our greatest sin. Slaughtering animals makes money.
LuckynumberSlevin11 3 weeks ago
@LuckynumberSlevin11 umm yea.... chimpanzees wich are our closest genetic "relative" are omnivors and are known to hunt for meat. so yea ur argument is totally invalid. if lions could have pet zebra's they would. besides i remember hearing about a lion who adopted some kind of deer, i'm pretty sure she ate it eventually.
i don't know how ppl can argue that humans aren't designed to eat meat, i mean why would we even need intelligence at all if we were herbovires. What, to outsmart plants??
paenitet7nullum 3 weeks ago
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@paenitet7nullum Our human digestive system is inefficient at digesting meat. We are designed to be fueled on carbohydrates from a plant-based wholegrain diet. This is science not bullshit that clearly comes out of your mouth.
LuckynumberSlevin11 3 weeks ago
@paenitet7nullum So you have just said that all we need intelligence for is for eating meat. I am finished talking with someone this dull and stupid. I hope you feel more educated after our discussion. Goodbye.
LuckynumberSlevin11 3 weeks ago
@LuckynumberSlevin11 you have failed to provide anything more then opinions on your side of the argument. yes I did say that the reason we have intelligence is to eat meat. again you failed to disprove anything i had to say. besides how could we have evolved to eat mostly grain since the only way to eat alot of it is to farm it??? only birds are meant to eat lots of grain. the fact that you think that shows that you know nothing about this subject. so I would suggest you to do some research.
paenitet7nullum 3 weeks ago
@LuckynumberSlevin11 even birds don't feed grain to their babies, they feed them bugs. actually the reason that meat can be unhealthy is that the meat was grown with wheat. and no we never had time to fully evolve into a fully carnivorous animal because we gained the ability to cook meat before we gained the ability to digest larg amounts of raw meat. because technology moves faster then evolution. and we don't need intelligence to eat plants! yet we are(most of us) intelligent.
paenitet7nullum 3 weeks ago
As I always maintain, taking advantage of our own logic to benefit ourselves at the cost of those who have not the same possibilities is the most dishonest, hypocrite, filthy, coward attitude that we can have.
22mar79 1 month ago
I'm totally agree with you. Every time I see at my loyal dog's eyes, I think if she were born as a cow, a chicken, a goat or a pig, she would be suffering right now. If we don't eat a dog, what do we have to eat other animals? They feel the same, They suffer the same, They love the same. I hope people realize the cruelty that involves eating meat.
75ladonna 1 month ago
@aequitas696 cat people ?.... sounds like you go hard on the herbs or some but who cares :/
gardini100 1 month ago
You have very squeaky shoes
Vegibarrs1220 1 month ago
Gluten and Dairy is Poison as well
5tonyvvvv 1 month ago
hmm my pets gone die with no meat ..try to feed a Bengal Cat some carrots it wont work ..and would i not be a hypocrite if i feed my pets meat and not eat any my self ?...hard question its not just black and white
gardini100 1 month ago
Yes, the hypocrisy is truly astounding.
cantstoptheseeker 1 month ago
I agree...that's why I'm vegan and healthy. Meat defenders should ask themselves, would they want to be reborn as one of these animals? Would they not hope every human being had gone vegan by then? The lions and such must kill and eat meat, or die; that is not the case for people. We're supposed to be moral and loving like you say, and civilized...innovators. Meat eating flies in the face of all that, shamefully.
1221solstice2012 1 month ago
@1221solstice2012 wow failed comment. your comment is wrong on such a deep level. first of all, dead people dont come back, even if they did they wouldnt care because that are dead
paenitet7nullum 1 month ago
@1221solstice2012 either they are dead or they would be chickens, stupid little chickens who dont know anything. we are supposed to be moral and loving, that is part of what made us such a success as a species, but we are supposed to love EACH OTHER. i don't see civilized in our genetic code so thats wrong. ah innovators now we're getting somwhere. why are we innovators? how could it possibly help us to eat veggies? it can't. innovation was "invented" to hunt and kill animals. then 4 other stuff
paenitet7nullum 1 month ago
@paenitet7nullum Yeah, stay out of my inbox with your pathetic drivel, thanks, you have no love for anything, let alone other human beings who love animals. Your "genetic code" has been screwed up from the beginning. What you said here in all these comments is disgusting nonsense, I'm sick to death of people like you spouting this garbage. Do not reply to me again.
1221solstice2012 1 month ago
@1221solstice2012 i'm sorry you feel that way.
paenitet7nullum 1 month ago
@paenitet7nullum it's not just his opinion.he is speaking the truth.
funklemonde 1 month ago
@paenitet7nullum your ignorance is painful.you should be ashamed of yourself.go to a sanctuary and learn something.
funklemonde 1 month ago
@funklemonde i looked over my comments and all of em are perfectly fine. so plz show me how i'm wrong unless ur just some troll.
paenitet7nullum 1 month ago
Thanks for doing my request Haridham!
ValkyereHowie 1 month ago
Outstanding video Haridham! It always just seems so ridiculous. We just select animals that are cute a fluffy to be pets and they are taboo to harm but other animals oh different story! Ridiculous. I also find it very funny when they say we are the "superior species" so we have the right to. But if we were truly superior wouldn't we just be more responsible for our actions? Wouldn't it then be even more important that we act with compassion and respect?
ValkyereHowie 1 month ago
I've always felt this way, even when I used to eat meat. Now my conscious is clear, however, I'm perplexed, Haridham, about the feeding of meat to pets. So I turn to your take and beliefs to help shape mine!
walk4trot2canter3 1 month ago
The grim reality is that humans are selfish biological scheming machines. They assign value to sentient creatures welfare simply because they have the power to do so. This is no different than packs of lions ganging up on a baby zebra and devouring it. Reality is we can not change what we are completely. Yes we can change the diet. But the only rational approach to stopping suffering completely is to end all life by way of nuclear weapons. If not the suffering continues, and THATS hypocritical.
CantWeedThis 1 month ago
The problem I always have with these is that there is two ways out of what vegs think is hypocritical.
As I said before, this is simply preference, familiarity, and responsibility, which is always under the umbrella of society.
Anyway, the choice vegs want you to take is to not eat cows and chickens because you like cats and dogs. However, the other answer, which they don't want you to take, is to eat cats and dogs, along with cows and pigs. Thus, no hypocrisy, though there never was.
BLHProductions 1 month ago
@BLHProductions if you woke up 1 day to find you were no longer the dominant creature on the planet you would not want to be treated the way the animals who are killed are treated. thus, unless you deal with animals as you'd want to be dealt with, you're hypocritical...
Playitalready 1 month ago
@Playitalready: Do you mean like if aliens came to earth or is this more a Time Machine by H. G. Wells scenario?
If I was physically unable to defend myself, it really wouldn't matter what I thought would it? Much like a lion killing a zebra, the zebra doesn't want to die, but neither does the lion. The zebra will try to get away, the lion will try to catch it. One wins, one looses. That is the way of life. On humans have a problem with that.
Course, factory farming =/= all meat
BLHProductions 1 month ago
@BLHProductions ...p.s. in case i can't get back to read/reply here check my animal rights video regarding health/econonmic/religious etc. arguments that tend to result, and note i don't say eating meat when there's no choice is bad i was refering to like how we can raise cows nice (and get diary) from them and can raise plants nice and get many veggie meals but don't be an ignorant hypocrite by treating animals differently than you'd want to be treated. sub me if you want
Playitalready 1 month ago
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BLHProductions 1 month ago
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@Playitalready: See, there is a problem with that. It's the Golden Rule argument, and that argument is flawed. See, there was this guy from Germany, who got off on the idea of being eaten. His BF got off on eating people. So the guy allowed himself to be eaten. By the Golden Rule argument's logic, the guy who was allowing himself to be eaten could eat any animal or human morally, since he was eaten too. And yes, he was killed in the process of being eaten. This is known as vore.
BLHProductions 1 month ago
You can have preference for some animals over others. For example, you care about your family and friends right? Well, the way this argument seems to be going, caring for your friends and family over strangers means you are a hypocrite.
The problem here is that humans don't really use sentience of species to judge importance. They use familiarity and responsibility. That's why vegs are not hypocrites for not helping every single animal from common pets to insects.
BLHProductions 1 month ago
I love dogs, but don't plan on getting any since dogfood is a slaughterhouse product. I guess I could get some goats or other herbivorous animals to keep as pets, but why do that? Let them live out in the wild where they can be free and have some life purpose. We don't need to keep animals as pets. It's like forcing an animal to be your friend and always be there for you against their will... Kinda scary if you really think about it.
1imesub 1 month ago 2
@1imesub: Except that the animals have been known to travel great distances to be with their family and do not always run away when given the opportunity to.
My dog randomly showed up one day as an older puppy. Thinking it might belong to someone around our area my step-dad dropped her off 3 times, each time farther away from our house. The 3rd time, she beat him home.
Oh yeah, really forced to stay and be a pet huh?
BLHProductions 1 month ago
@BLHProductions See, if you're not eating animals, you're beating them. What is wrong with you dude? You could justify the holocaust if you were guilty of participating in it. You have no remorse, no guilt... no conscience?
1imesub 1 month ago
@1imesub: If you are not going to actually contribute anything, I would humbly ask you to not respond. Just because I know that you are trying to troll in lieu of an actual argument doesn't mean that other people will know that, and may actually take you seriously and forever see vegs as complete idiots, which pretty much already happens, except it's usually grasping at straws and not trolling that causes the believe that they are intellectually inferior, leading to "protein arguments."
BLHProductions 1 month ago
@BLHProductions I just posted some videos showing people what I eat on a healthy whole foods vegan diet; plenty of protein. Check them out.
1imesub 1 month ago
@1imesub: Personally, asking them if they ever ate PBJ as a kid would be better to prove one can go without eating meat. Of course, the ability to do without is not a reason to do without, and there are ex-vegs we whould say that the ability to go without is limited.
For example, you could go without food every day and likely not die or have serious problems. Does this mean yuo should? Not at all.
BLHProductions 1 month ago
@BLHProductions you can't go without food every day without having problems.. you would soon die..
MelissaAnnTard 1 month ago
@MelissaAnnTard: Not really. You can go for about 3 weeks without food, there was also a study where a fat many, under continuous medical watch you understand, lost over 200 pounds in about a year by not eating anything with no ill effects, though I don't know how valid that is.
Of course, this doesn't address a key issue, do you need to keep on living if your death would be less harmful than to continue living?
BLHProductions 1 month ago
great video. so true, speciesist's are highly hypocritical and don't realize it but I'll definitely share this video cause once people become aware that there views are flawed and inconsistent, they may think more about it.
AntiSpeciesistWorld 1 month ago