I believe things are not what they seem. I believe the U.S. Government is highly corrupt, along with the fact that our Federal Reserve is just an anomaly of a broken system. However, I would be a fool to say that I completely agree with everything that ZeitGeist states, especially seeing as how it has come from entirely one person - that person being Peter Joseph. Simple logic pretty much states, that, typically when a single person (such as Joseph), leads a movement,
@MoonLightFacade and attempts to relay various conspiracies in hopes to control people, there is a problem. Yes, the world may in fact be controlled by more than just Governments. Yes, it may be J.P. Morgan, Rockefeller, and that other guy. Yes, there is a lot which we don't (and may never) know. But where is the hard. Cold. Evidence. How do you, Zeitgeist people, know that Peter Joseph isn't just some fraud who's trying to simply control you? Look at Ayn Rand, for example.
One more thing. BY NO MEANS am I defending Zeitgeist. Nothing I stated is represents my or my constituents views, or is to be construed as endorsing/opposing the Zeitgeist movement. lol
As far as the Constitutionality of the Fed...Zeitgeist is right. The Fed is 100% Un-Constitutional. The Constitution is a list of what the government CAN do, not a list of what it can NOT do...and NOWHERE in the Constitution does it authorize Congress to "conjure" the Fed. The Fed is Un-Constitutional...taxes and the Treasury Dpt are Constitutional. However there is still hope because the wording is "income", vs. "wages". I need to really check that out.
Problem 5: It is my belief that a private banking cartel both foreign and domestic should not be controlling our monetary policy. Setting interest rates, and controlling the money supply should NOT be in the hands of "mostly" private bankers. Fractional Reserve is a way to make a sh!@#$% of money...out of nothing "thin air".
Correction on the "voluntary compliance". It wasn't until recently 2009? that Ron Paul got his "Audit the Fed" bill passed, but it was "gutted". So I believe the voluntary compliance thing is history, but we have yet to get a FULL audit/disclosure from the Fed. That cock sucker Barnie Frank agreed with Paul, but the puppet was told to "dance". I am fairly certain Barney no longer supports a full audit.
Also wanted shake a little reality into you lol as far as the Fed having oversight by Congress. I'll put it the way former Rep Alan Grayson did... paraphrasing here;
"It's kind of hard to regulate the guys writing you $5k checks"
Opensecrets is a great website to verify our politicians and Fed contributions. Obama got almost a million dollars from Government Sux in the 08 presidential election. Take a look at the new candidates as well. Then take a look after Jan 31, 2012. Super PAC's unite
Problem 3: The Fed is bailing out foreign banks/nations with our tax dollars.
Problem 4. The Fed is giving BILLIONS of dollars to State Sponsored Terror countries like Libya, and Egypt. These are the people who want to kill our kids and military.
Which leads me to debunk your version of what you call an "audit". The Fed is only subjected to a "partial" audit, NOT a full audit, and this is only available via "voluntary compliance", through the Fed.
@EndTheFedRes explain how the countries like egypt etc want to kill ur children. are u forgetting its message? That its the biased Media. Mate , The BBC, FOX NEWS ETC ARE ALL THEIRS OPEN UR EYES.
@flexpape Egypt is not listed among State Sponsored Terror countries against the US, but they have (or did have) State Sponsored Terror amongst their own civilians, which we were helping fund i.e. foreign aid. This only helps perpetuate anger/hatred towards the US. We are also supplying Syria, Iran, Cuba, and Sudan with aid. You can google "list of foreign aid countries" to get the full list. It's no wonder why many in these countries hate us when we sponsor the very regimes who oppress them.
@EndTheFedRes So u are saying that US is not a terrorist country? Care to explain who caused the death of 3 million vietnamis. Who is giving billion of dollars of Aid to Israel to kill innocent Palestinians who is killing iraqi and afghanis? Please do not joke with me. WHY is that every Muslim country got problem with America, why don't they have problems with Russia or china,japan or other countries like that who are total infidel countries? Cmon Stop watching BBC and Cnn wATcH zeitgeist Again.
@EndTheFedRes Dude the world bank etc give "donation" in the form of loan with so high interests , they actually make countries their slaves. Please dude go check out , you still think that America is Pure? if your eyes are still closed then u havn't seen Zeitgeist Message. OPEN UR EYES. these all are jewish elite families that rule the world and they have made you fool. Your planes throw bombs at marriage parties and then say " Sorry " wrong target Good deal...
@flexpape Out of all that talk you believe that I think America is pure lol. Not quite...American people, maybe but not our government and the Fed. By Jews you must be referring to the Rothschilds and Warburgs? Not all Jews are bad.
@EndTheFedRes Mate Quran 2:101 is very descriptive verse. It says that " a party of jews" Not all Jews. The real Jews are dead in holocaust and only few Good jews are left, fooled by Zionists, why they are against zionism? Yes man the last prophecy oF Islam. The jews will capture Jerusalam and they will bring their messiah that will be anti christ and before that the whole world will be against Muslims and the seculalr world order will rise. The prophecy is completely describing current politics
Fractional Reserve 101: You go to the bank with $100, the bank (in a nutshell/not actual) can now loan out $900. This $900 is money that does not exist i.e. Fractional Reserve.
Example: You take out a $200k loan to buy a home. After 30/yrs of compounding interest you end up paying ~$400k total for the home, but the bank only had $20k to begin with...So the bank lent you money they never had, and charged you interest on this fictitious non existent money. Money for nothing is evil imho.
@ msj120 Banks may or may not have been stable (depending on the bank), but our currency held its value. BTW notice recent bank closures? One would have to agree that the Fed has failed miserably in performing this function.
Problem 2. Fractional Reserve. I am going to describe Fractional Reserve for the masses with an example. This is NOT EXACTLY how it works, but in a nutshell yes. Fractional Reserve IMO is the ultimate form of usury. You decide where you stand (evil, good).
@msj120 Much of what you stated is true, but you have also been deceived, or are deceiving. I have multiple problems with the Fed. I will list them...I'll try to condense it. Thank you for clearing up the whole vote thing on Dec 23, 1913. I get tired if explaining that to people. I will list the problems randomly, by no means significance.
Problem 1: The Fed was "conjured" to combat inflation as one of its primary purposes. Since the Feds inception the dollar has lost 97% of its value.
I dont even know where to start with this whiney mis-informed person. Do you really think the Federal Reserve is a nice clean organazation? How can you sit there with this farce of what you call a debunking? Be ashamed of yourself and stay asleep. Where better off without you if your going to keep thinking with this mindset.--
...and i'm not saying that the barter system was without flaw. It truly did need to be represented by currency. It was much too regional to be able to flex to the globalization of the economy. Perhaps a no-growth or slow-growth economy would be better. Maybe we have reached the peak of sustainable civilization of the Earth... maybe the "growth at all costs" motto should be disbanded with.
...is in solid gold to (stabilize) the economy". You know, why does nobody get the fact that this radiates and affects the currency of every nation the US imports/exports with. The barter system worked for years. "No that's too crude". Fine. The gold standard worked for yet more years without incidence. "No, that's too unstable, we must be able to manipulate it at will, whenever, no matter the cost. It's in the best interests of the people." No, it's to line your pockets and create scape goats.
Pure bullshit... It amazes me that even the simple logic zeitgeist presents can fail some people like this, and whoosh right over them. It's plain and simple, the US is in a state of perpetual debt, all because the Federal Resserve decided that paper was now the official currency, so instead of exchanging gold for notes, they gave you paper that promised you the amount it claimed to be in gold. Then of course they got into the excuse "oh well we need to make more paper than there actually...
Just stating that Alexander Hamilton was a founding father is meaningless. It conjures the image of Washington, Jefferson, and Franklin, without showing that he was the complete opposite. Hamilton wanted to instate British Mercantilism on American soil. When he failed to do this at the Constitutional Convention, he did everything he could to undermine the Constitution. This included twisting the General Welfare and Supremacy clauses. You clearly do not know who Hamilton was!
Awesome video, as someone that actually does have an education in economics, accounting and taxation this gave me a lot of interesting things to look at.
why then is Ron Paul talking about loan interests and the gongressional inability to audit the federal reserve. 20 billion a month as interest. 1913, 1933, all games. go beyond zeitgeist.
zeitgeist is nonsense in some respects but youtube shows-there's no limit to morons that post videos such as this one.
The problem with early banking wasn't the lack of a central bank, the problem was fractional reserve banking plus there was no regulator auditing banks so anyone could open one, but no way to tell which ones were good.
Also this moron should read history. Alexander Hamilton was working on behalf of those who had a vested interest in a central bank.
Zeitgeist is nonsense on some issues, yes. However, I thought they were pretty spot on in regards to talking about the federal Reserve and our monetary system.
After watching these fully, I find many of your arguments to be false.
The act is not a law, and it does not FORCE people to submit their tax forms, which is what zeitgeist was saying. It simply says that people must file, but does not give them a penalty for not doing so.
WWI was indeed started by the sinking of the Lusitania. It was two years after that we went to war, this is true, but the Lusitania was the cause.
The RFID isn't at the global tracking yet, but it could be.
Taking all things into consideration, here... I believe that while you may be right on a couple points, TZM on a whole is correct in their claims. Some claims may be bent truths, but what they are saying is indeed correct.
The RBE is a very good alternative to what we have currently, and I don't see anything refuting it as of yet. While there is the possibility that not everything was an elaborate hoax, what Zeitgeist proposes is absolutely beneficial to our society and should be embraced.
"It passed the senate 43 in favour to 25 not in favour and 27 not voting"
Well, then Zeitgeist has a point. if the 27 that were away had gotten a chance to vote, it could have been refuted. 43 to 52 at most - but still a good margin that may have voted against it. Not to mention the absentees not being able to argue against the bill, and possibly change some people's minds.
That being said, I enjoy hearing the other side of an argument, and you did show me that TZM might not be 100% Correct.
Ok WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERY APPLAUD ABOUT ZEITGEIST VIEW ON RELIGION!!! AND IGNORE THE FACT THAT THERE "NEW WORLD ORDER" IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT AND UNREALISTIC TO ME THEY SEEM LIKE A RELIGION THEMSELVES
I do believe you are mistaken, if would have researched The federal Reserve completely, you would that what they is (for the most part) true. Watch "Money Masters", then maybe you will know what you are talking about. For true freedom and sound money vote Ron Paul 2012 Listen to what he has to say about The Federal Reserve. He started my research.
I'm afraid you will find all the facts presented by the movie are infact correct on the federal reserve.. Now I'm not in favour of Zeitgeist and I'm even banned from the channel before you start pointing fingers.
I don't understand. JP Morgan, Rockerfeller, Chase invested their money in WHAT to halt the decline in the stock market on Black Tuesday? Their Own stocks? GM? Or the imminent WWII? Because none of their trickle-down investing worked for the American ppl. Did it ever? A lot of what you claim does not disprove Peter Joseph's facts. Even your point on President Wilson making the Fed Res. law, okay... you just go on to how the senate voted for it. Wilson still signed that bill into LAW, right?
I don't understand. JP Morgan, Rockerfeller, Chase invested their money in WHAT? to halt the decline in the stock market. Their Own? GM? Or the imminent WWII? Because none of their trickle-down investing work for the American ppl. Did it ever? A lot of what you claim does not disprove Peter Josephs facts. Even your attack on President Wilson making the Fed Res. law, okay... you just go on to how the senate voted for it. Wilson still signed that bill into LAW, right?
USS Louisiana was decommissioned on 20 October 1920 and was sold for scrap, November 1923.. never sunk. Maybe canadians should not be giving out facts about their crippled brother to the south. And we wont post facts about how our retarted brother to the north is just a french illegitimate albino by our non-english speaking brother to the south. (That still has to start paying us for back support on for raising them all these years, im serious Juan im goning to my lawyers about this on friday.)
This little boy cracks me up!!! What Zeitgeist says about the Fed Res and it's relationship with the US Govt is entirely true, and no banking insider would deny it. The entire monetary system is a fragile perpetual growth fuelled Ponzi scheme, and if growth were to stop, it would collapse just as fast; no economist worth their salt would deny this. The economist and the banking insider would rationalise it, not deny it, because it is self evident that this is the only way to make money.
this kid is a joke, every single thing said about the federal reserve is straight out of MODERN MONEY MECHANICS. and they left out a lot maby this kid is just so uninformed he dosent know the difference.
@cptmuska You don't even know what Modern Mechanics says. Zeitgeist just spins it up to make you believe you're fucked. That's what all conspiracy theories do.
95-320 specifically states that the GAO cannot audit ANYTHING except under the emergency lending facilities... They cannot audit the FOMC or International lending to central banks whatsoever. In a nutshell, they cannot be audited.
MSJ- would you care citing your sources? Also I have looked over your Cornell page with Title 26, and have not found the law yet, just percentages of how much they take from you, not to mention countless other websites ive checked, that cite sources, including IRS documents, saying there is no law. Credibility is key my friend.
This is not true, you think we are free? There is just to many things that are happening now that show the government corrupt , try debunking my documentary
MSJ- Your presentation of the monetary system is full of a number of half-truths. I would recommend a rereading of monetary history by Steven Zarlenga of the American Monetary Institute ("The Lost Science of Money"). I think you will be surprised what you find. The fraudulent design of the modern banking system is based on fractional reserve accounting. You need,above all, to remain open minded or your prejudicial perspective will prevent you from understanding the world around you. Best.
You're refuting all of ZG's claims of conspiracy by saying, "No, no, it actually happened the way the newspaper said. Rich, greedy, powerful men always have the interests of the proletariat in mind. They want us to live well and become equal in financial stature so we can challenge their way of life." Yeah effing right.
WAKEUP.
First thing I learned in basic political science: #1 priority of all politicians is to stay in power.
oh dude....who the fuck are you working for...your video here is a complete lie , you and I both know the fed is unconstitutional...im thinking ur an dis-info agent , do your fucking research and quit lying to the world ass hole!!
@antekatetaketna The Illuminati doesn't exist anymore science won out over religion so it was no longer required and was disband over a century ago.
But then I wouldn't expect you to know that, after all its very easy to claim someone is a member of a fictional organization because then you don't need to present any evidence of it and none can be presented to refute your claim either.
@GlassHalfEmpty23 What about them? As far as I know Jesuits are just a group of religious fundamentalists looking to press a particular agenda no different then any other ideological organization. Kind of like a political party or and NGO. Just a group of like minded people trying to a particular view. I see no reason for suspecting anything else is going on other then the exercise of religious freedom.
@Kingucktoad Are you aware that the Jesuits have been kicked out of 83 countries in the past 100 years for provoking wars and civil skirmishes for profit? And now they reside in the Vatican, the tippy-top of all the Secret Societies is located in the Vatican, who are known to be ruthless, money driven, definitely not holy, men, surrounded by your holiness haha just wanted to point a few things out because you reminded me of myself. Approach everything like a scientist. But dig like your an
The catholic church has been responsible for more genocides then any other institution in recorded history
This does not equate to a conspiracy that's just how one pushed an agenda in the days before democracy. Violence was the only way to convince others to agree with you.
Note. the Jesuits gave refuge to Jews during the holocaust and are currently one of the largest supporters of education in the developing world, not exactly the MO of a secret society bent on world domination.
You're completely disregarding the strong possibility that this was all brought in by people who are above the government. You're justifying everything as if the system is trustworthy. If you consider that this was done from above the government then all of this is discounted.
From Wikipedia (regarding the Fed); "The U.S. Government receives all of the system's annual profits, after a statutory dividend of 6% on member banks' capital investment is paid, and an account surplus is maintained."
'Member banks', '6% dividend'. That is what you need to look for, and what this video also fails to mention.
It's amusing to see how anyone who dares think for themselves and educate themselves beyond the conventional orthodoxy of narrow-minded academic authoritarianism and therein challenges it, is quick to get labelled 'conspiracy theorist'. Turn over the record please. Intellect is not intelligence. It's stupidity disguised as cleverness.
Video creator, yes, Alexander Hamilton was a federalist that believed in a strong federal government. That is why he believed in having a strong central bank. However, you forget to point out that James Madison, also a founder, was against it! Read the federalist papers big guy... This video has not debunked anything. In fact, there's a ton of conclusory statements not backed by specific facts proving your point. This is ALL your opinion which does not debunk or prove anything.
Your research is very weak. You need to start with "The Creature From Jekyll Island", by G Edward Griffin, "Tragedy and Hope" by Carol Quigley and then move on to at least four of Dr. Antony Sutton's publications before you can make any comments about the federal reserve. The Fed Reserve is without a doubt the most insidious institution and fraud ever perpetrated upon the American people.
Proof of syncretism of Christianity to Pagan religions start here--->/watch?v=DNJ2RZJMG3k
Proof that Horus did have 12 disciples that he commissioned to do the work of his father, was born of the virgin Isis, and other Zeitgeist claims start here===> /watch?v=rdbgou-Jt-g
Zeitgeist debunked was debunked...with primary sources.
HOW THIS ZEITGEIST DOESNT BELIEVE WITH BAD AND GOOD TO BE JUDGED HERE AT THE LAST DAY? THE SPIRT SHOULD BE STRONG WHEN CHOSEN BY GOD...FOR ZEITGEIST NO WAR NO KILLINGS...HOW CAN A GOOD SPIRIT BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVIL ONE? THERE SHOULD BE A SEPARATION IN BETWEEN WEAK AND STRONG, THATS WHY WE ARE HERE IN THIS WORLD FOR A MERE TEST..AND THIS IS NOT A HEAVEN...GOD IS NOT UNFAIR OR MAN-MADE GOD FOR WHAT THIS MOVEMENT IS TRYING TO EMPHASIZE. WE SHOULD LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKE...BEWARE!!
And you people wonder why this stuff isn't being taken seriously by anyone important either academically or otherwise? Because it is falicy. Conspiracy theorists are generally people with little knowledge in an actual field who cite poor sources out of context. Zeigeist is nothing different, and yet again, has been laughed out of the house by people who actually know what they're talking about. Your truth is no different to any other. Cynicism is easy.
xD Looking at the comments... I see pissed of failliures. It's pretty sad. 'I hate working so I'mma be a cynic!' Oh the chuckles... I hate the way things are too, Zeitgeist is still full of shit. I can't really talk about American constitution as I'm not American, but the religion stuff was just rubbish.. It just shows how easy the internet has made cynicism. It was all taken out of context, and mainly just wrong.
What a dipshit!!!! Yeah go ahead buddy "save" money for retirement if you believe in the fed!!! Lets see how that works out for you. He tries to cleverley disguise the fact that the Income tax and the 16th amendment and the Federal reserve act came into law with the same president. in 1913.....Wow what a coincidence!!! Now from that point the fed and the gov had a guns and butter maker from that point on didnt they? What a fukin dipshit!!!!! The fed is the enabler for the gov dummy!!!!
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Read books as well as internet sources and you'll see between the bullshit you're saying. Especially books published around the great depression. Even the pro-socialist H.G. Wells is more revealing than, I think, he wants to be in his non-fiction. Read anything by Clarence Seward Darrow, Thorstein Veblen, Bernard Shaw, or even people nearer today like Carl Sagan, Frank Ogden, and even Mr. Rockefeller his self. Please, in stead of ranting absurdities, educate yourself on more than wikipedia.
BERNAKE AND GREENSPAN even said TO THE FACE OF THE "PUBLIC" on t.v. that they are not accountable to the "public".when asked by congressional committee about bailout money they answered "we don't have to tell you!
you knob!
THE INCOME TAX ACT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR COMMERCIAL/BUSINESS TAX- NOT INDIVIDUAL WAGES.
Russo didn't know SPECIFICALLY what was going to be, just outline of what was going to happen.
get chipped dufus,you're already mentally enslaved ..
you're still missing the point in this video. The fact that the monetary system creates separation, elitism, divides, poor health, deprivation, wars, environmental pollution... the list goes on. Are you saying you'd rather live in this world, enslaved in your 9-5, making someone else rich? Or are you just saying that you don't quite understand it yet, and want more answers? Think about it.
fucking booohoooo dude quit wasting ur time trying to justify the shit that is apparant.... im sorry holmes ur ignorant , goto the mall buy useless shit you dont need , walk around like a fucking billboard eating mcdonalds stick ur head in the sand sheepstrich
Also, Asron Russo DID go to the authorities with his information pre-911, but as usual, the CIA, FBI etc, took the info and did nothing with it. Rationalize your world as best you can my friend, It wont change the facy that rich people will always desire MORE wealth and power, and they dont care what happens to us for them to get it....
The FED shows the public EXACTLY what they want them to see, nothing more. The FED is audited, quite regularly, but these are performed by a 'private' institution, so it's like telling the mafia to pick a 'private' audit them, and expect an honest answer. At the end of the day, If the FED has nothing to hide, they won't fear a government Audit, however, the FED is a business, and they want to make MONEY, our money, at our expense, To hell with the little people it hurts on the way.
...and the US is not interested in the oil of Iraq, it really wants to help the people of this country,all the killings are just unfortunate accidents and yes I heard you guys have free education and medical cover in the US. Discusse the real issues, your soldiers kill innocent people, there is no excuse. Bush and more of your countrymen consider themselves christians and violate christianities main message : thou shall not kill!!! - no exception I'm aware of
@shifitbaby I'm a soldier of the US ARMY and I was in Iraq for two tours, and I can tell you first hand that there where very few accidental deaths when I walked the streets of Baghdad. The people would kill each other, over shop territory or money and claim that al qaeda was behind it.
I can't really comprehend what you must have experienced in those two years and you have my true compassion.
You shouldn't have been there in the first place, your presence in Iraq was justified on false grounds by your government, its supporting allies and the ones that hold the strings. War was and always will be a means to create power for one by destroying the other, which automatically leads to more violence, as the "loser" won't accept this "agreement"
@shifitbaby We would run into random dead bodies in the street with throats cut, and bullet wounds, but most, the dogs got to and not even a coroner would be able to know what happened. The ppl killed by us troopers on the ground took shots at us and tried to kill us, or blow us up... we returned the favor.
@evankyle86 we feed a beast and obey to its rules, that even makes us killers. If you want peace drop the weapon, if you want peace and you come with weapons you do look very scary and I will protect myself.
If you are still in Iraq, get out of there and find love again - all the best to you
You are a pathetic, SLUT boy joke of corporate propaganda. If you are defending tyranny of banks and world elites, then you are pathetic SCUM. Zeitgiest told more truth than a low down corporate cock sucking bitch boy like you would ever be man enough to tell. Why did you take down the ratings for this video, you little punk ass bitch ??? You are a LIAR and a propaganda artist, if you ever insulted my intelligence about bankster greed and propaganda, I would slap your teeth out pussy bitch !
but that doesnt happen nowadays. they dont need to anymore . why is that? cause theyre way to fucking powerful. and we are to put it very plainly a bunch of cows on a farm that they can do whatever they want with. but eventually enough will be enough and there wil most definately be a stampede.
the biggest one is your ending. the us dollar is now being looked severely down upon from all other countries. our dollar is worth the least but used the most. very soon countries will stop accepting our checks. do you think rfid cant be improved upon? and lastly you say it loud and clear. the us government can empty our bank account, foreclose on our homes, give us bad credit, a criminal record, and make us completely worthless. or they could just kill us cause it would be easier.
a lot of banks may have failed those first years "without the fed". true. but the point that is trying to be made is that the entire country didnt fail because of it. and just because alexander hamilton and james monroe were really important people in history doesnt mean they were good people. you have to think outside the box. these people should never be looked upon as something altruistic and "holy". they were just normal folks with the ability to be just as fucked up as the rest of us.
although i dont fully agree with every single little piece of zeitgeist, i totally disagree with the thin gs your saying. your just very misinformed. not trying to bash you but you really do need to look for better sources of information than wikipedia. the internet is just another form of media and there can be some serious bullshit on there as well as some startling truths. i suppose you could use that very arguement in your favor as well. you just have to think outside the box a bit more.
those banks failed because of the major banks at the time forced them out of business... do your research. the federal reserve has never been audited, ive seen actual hearings in congress were they ask the federal reserve for notes. so your telling me i made that up? dude open your eyes. why do you think the stock market crashed? the stock is controlled, why do you think they have "put out" bets. i can respect what your doing here, but your missing key points and facts.
@prototype81 You make a good point and I dont understand why people like this are trying to protect the banks. Maybe its the bankers kids and they dont want to lose their toys....idk....
Then you go on to say the former IRS agents need to take a second look as if you really dont see a reason why you found the answer on the internet and they couldnt find it after years. BECAUSE YOURE WRONG. People have won court cases over it. The 16th ammendment does not in any way justify the tax of LABOR. Also when you talk about the US looking for any reason to join the war, you cite the first World War. Zeitgeist makes mention to pearl harbor and WW2. Get your shit straight bro.
"It passed the senate with 43 in favor to 24 not in favor AND 27 NOT VOTING"....You say that and move on as if its of no importance. Its the exact point the movie makes. Because it passed in the house doesnt make it a law. When 27 of the senators needed to vote on something this monumental are away on break I think its a valid stance for the movie.
The US dollar is one of the Most Trust dollars in existence". Are you fucking kidding me....? And just how many dollars have existed in the history of this planet you baby brained wanna be intellectual? OHHHH, crazy there has pretty much just been one dollar in existence...Weird! Get a life you wanna be scholar".
ACTS 2 38 is for everyone forget all this atheism its nothing more than the spirit of the antichrist the Lord God almighty is soon to return and i will look at satan and laugh im going to preach this gospel to the whole world nobody will ever convince me there is no God i have seen to many miracles and prophecies we are living in strange times and the spiritual wickedness in high places do not want you to know what a threat the bible and the name of Jesus Christ really is satan hates that name
@erichathy222 You have not observed any miracles that happend by magical cercumstances. Zero, Zilch, Nada, none. You have not "seen TOO man miracles" because you have not seen even one. Every miracle you claim to have seen could have happend under NATURAL cercumstances. You have not seen anything magical like the Red Sea being parted or a person being resurected from the dead. What you have observed that you claim miracle could have just happend had there not been any magical god doing it..none!
This guy makes some good points but, the reality is, you simply cant trust our government. This go's for all of it;s areas. The Federal Reserve is not your friend, and it really isnt needed. In short, Zeitgeist, has some truth to it and of course much of it is false. None the less, it makes you think. Thinking is exactly what the big boys dont want us doing, if you know what i mean...
@axcz3 Are you sure the Zeitgeist is false and not this guy? Did you do the research? As unbelievable as it might seem this guy might really be a dis-info agent(this stuff really happens)...however, a little doubt in the movement is always good...prevents you from becoming a fanatic.
One thing I'm certain of, is that I support the Venus project. It's by far the best thing we have right now.
@TukenNuken: Funny how he claims there is nothing secret about the Federal Reserve Yet in the last couple of years, more and more senators and leaders are calling for an end of the Federal Reserve Secrecy. Ron Paul just addressed the senate about this.
One thing is for Damn Sure, the leaders of the Christians, Jews, Islam, ect., ect., are NOT banning together under "God the One Father" to bring peace to the world! Religion is in question, not God! The Zeitgeist film shows, IN TRUTH AND FACT, how the Federal Reserve and American Presidents have tricked American Citizens into wars! We dont have to be Dependent on oil! We The People can change We The People for the better!
Not sure where I stand on 9/11 or the federal reserve, but the religion part of Zeitgeist (of which I was a big fan) seemed to good to be true to me being an atheist. I looked into it and it was mostly false, why would he lie about something like religion when it's so easy to debunk religion? So for all we know the rest of Zeitgeist could be fake.
Best place to check it out is at: NNDB Mapper. Put Barack Obama in the search window, then look for the mapper in the top right of the window that opens up... Open the mapper and look for Bilderberg : Expand it.
and the audit you talk about take out the feds most crucial activities...so the fed never really was audit since its creation in 1913 I actually do my researche
naah you got it wrong....il debunk some parts the others are too long to explain...after the sinking of lusitania the united states started increasin there military budget with national defense act of 1916....you talk about amero but you didnt debunk anyhing of course it wouldnt be done in secret, sevaral federal reserve in past stopped cuz policticiens knew danger, deferal reserve chairman appointed by the president BUT federal reserve is OWNED BY PRIVATE BANKERS...kucinich ron paul listen2 dem
I think that the creator of this video did an excellent job. The only reason that the people commenting so vehemently disagree with him is because they are all the people who sit at home with no job smoking dope all day. The highly intelligent people who work all day don't have time to watch zeitgeist and the refutations thereof.
@getdjman: I've read his book. It's complete and utter garbage. And it's been debunked so many times. It's really pathetic that people would believe a Lunatic. >_>
@getdjman Smoke dope all day? No job? The truth is people who try to discredit what other people say use no proof to back what they say, most of the time. I don't use drugs nor am I jobless, The highly intelligent people who work all day don't have time to watch zeitgeist? Where is the research to back this theory? I am extremely offended by your comments. The truth is zeitgeist is a good foundation for a better way of life. So what is this video proposing?
@anrchyx I was definitely out of line, and am genuinely sorry. I respect Zeitgeist for its endeavors, and am a proponent of having a great diversity of thought in society. However, I do believe that there are suspicious holes in the presentation of the aforementioned. It seems to me, from research that I have independently accumulated through the years, that it is a run of the mill conspiracy. Once again, I apologize for my derogatory statements.
... The RFID would become our bank account our credit out lisence... The point was that once the world relies on the chip all they need to do to threaten any one out of line is disabling their RFID and after that they would be no one... It was never about "Tracking" people and the fact that you can duplicate the chip is irrelevant. Other things that you say I also noticed that are incorrect but frankly this is all too boring and i care not enough to invest time in internet arguments...
I'm no expert in finances or banking but people today will believe anything. Do your homework and actually look at the sources both sides provide. Opinionated and conspiracy based sources don't count.
i wasnt going to comment but this pissed me off.... when you said the 16th amendment debunks that taxes have to be apportioned its complete craziness. AMENDMENTS are things put in after the constitution is written. You can AMEND anything you want. you can AMEND the constitution to say you need to eat shit every 3rd and 4th saturday of the month. Amendments are not part of the agreement our for-fathers signed. They are ways to get around it. THERE SHOULD BE NO AMENDMENTS.
check out this site, its an objective response to zeitgeist............
and you can skip part one if you like many people have already discussed that online and it really comes down to whether or not you believe in religion which is not really the point I'm trying to convey.
it goes into great detail as to what this guy is talking about
@FuManBoobs please tell me its not the post where peter j talks about people suffering from "mind-lock", and how the people on conspiracy science are too set in their ways to accept his information. I read that and find that very hypocritical of PJ, no one is right all the time, why does PJ act like he is in despite of evidence against his movies. Zeitgeist addendum talks about how being proven wrong or being correct is a way of growing, yet PJ ignores information he doesn't like.
@FuManBoobs Well I have been watching it, cant say I read it all but plan to, I got about 7 or 8 pages in. I fail to see where he proves CS is wrong. The first post by PJ goes point by point why he doesn't agree with them, he doesn't really comment on the facts CS present, just criticizes their position. The closest thing I have seen to PJ debunking CS is peter and Edward both believe the other has mis-interpreted modern money mechanics. I don't expect CS to be right ALL the time nor Peter.
@FuManBoobs Also my main point was that a lot of people are complaining that this video has little information, Its only a couple minutes so it can't go into good detail, I mentioned CS because they have similar comments about part 3 of zeitgeist and go into more detail then this video.
@dro305 this video is not great...comon now you think that if some idiot makes a video and put to the videos name Debunked then he or she realy Debunks anything ? ...no ...see zeitgeist one is based on pre existing information...the problem is that ...all the Debunkers think that the information what they use or the source is more plausible as peter josephs info sources...but no who sais what is more plausible...this video means nothing
You sound like a shill for the Fed. You can't use documents FROM the fed to prove they're a benevolent institution. Like Christians can't use the bible to prove the bible. Fail! The founding fathers were Rich, White, Land/Slave Owning ELITES who made America a land where only Rich, White, Land Owing Males could even vote, Slavery was Legal and women & children were Chattel. Land of the free? Please. Just b/c something is "Legal" doesn't make it RIGHT. WAR is Legal, but is just Legal Mass Murder.
President Andrew Jackson was responsible for bringing down the Second central bank of the U.S. by using his veto power. He than wrote a letter to the Senate to explained why he did. READ IT!!
Great vid man. Ignore the dipshits who treat Zestiest like it's religion. Lots of people can't think critically about their own personal mythos and get real mad at those who try.
America, the father of recession. Has this to say, okay wait a second, I live in india, and we still have a gold as collateral value against our currency. And it seems no matter what you call Indians, our currency will survive and our economy is one of the largest in the world. Democracy here works better here, u cant upset 1 billion people and get away with it. True our country does have problems, but were barely 60 years young.
Just because politicians are good at keeping information away from you doesn't mean it is not happening. That's the point of Zeitgest. I may not agree with every single theory the people have but you need to learn how to take what you can from each story. And the banks do loan money from thin air out at interest. Check First National Bank of Montgomery vs Jerome Daly 1969. Pretty simple stuff there.
The World War I ship is the LOO-sih-TAY-nee-ah. Not Louisiana, Mr. Documentary Maker. Sorry man, it's just hard to take you seriously. The video sucks.
wow dude seriously have you taken any economic classes? or did you look it up wikipedia? lol dude actually if your video was made before the zeitgeist movie, then the zeitgeist movie would have debunked your video. lol you certainly have never taken economic classes and obviously you dont know that the government sells bonds to the federal reserve and also other countries so that we can pay our debt.... which cause to have an even bigger debt resulting in an endless cycle
You failed to answer the most important question. Who owns the federal reserve?
6:04 "The US dollar is one of the most trusted dollars in existence." Really? First off the US dollar isnt trusted by many nations today. Second the US "dollar" is the only "dollar" currency so of course it would be the most trusted "dollar". "Secrecy is repugnant in a open and free society"JFK.
I think the maker of this video clearly stayed away from obvious information about the federal reserve and central banks in the US that would have supported zeitgeist's ideas such as the jekyll island "duck hunt" meeting. He does this because there is no way to could refute or ridicule this evidence.
I have come to dislike a lot of zeitgeist, but if you are looking for a truly great documentary on money look for the money masters.
well. why billions have to put their selves into life long debts for banks?
why i cant have nothing without bank's debt based "solutions"?
videos like this is just a last call of stupidity. people see how their lives r rolling down. they dont need to know how many "good" revisions were made on that private bank.
system is goin down. spread zeitgeist before it is not too late! wake up! and think for your self!
this video is the last call of religious stupidity.
i even think that this could be made by atheistic people to make a laugh from religions. it is so funny: "zeitgeist is for minority", "and put it for rest once and for all.." that shaking voice makes me laugh.
wake up people! spread zeitgeist in all ways. religious delusions and weak minded people r goin to an end.
there is nothing that zeitgeist makes u do. it just talks about problems that r most important for ALL of us. act now! wake up!
Get a life!
rohit20059 22 hours ago
I believe things are not what they seem. I believe the U.S. Government is highly corrupt, along with the fact that our Federal Reserve is just an anomaly of a broken system. However, I would be a fool to say that I completely agree with everything that ZeitGeist states, especially seeing as how it has come from entirely one person - that person being Peter Joseph. Simple logic pretty much states, that, typically when a single person (such as Joseph), leads a movement,
MoonLightFacade 1 week ago
@MoonLightFacade and attempts to relay various conspiracies in hopes to control people, there is a problem. Yes, the world may in fact be controlled by more than just Governments. Yes, it may be J.P. Morgan, Rockefeller, and that other guy. Yes, there is a lot which we don't (and may never) know. But where is the hard. Cold. Evidence. How do you, Zeitgeist people, know that Peter Joseph isn't just some fraud who's trying to simply control you? Look at Ayn Rand, for example.
MoonLightFacade 1 week ago
One more thing. BY NO MEANS am I defending Zeitgeist. Nothing I stated is represents my or my constituents views, or is to be construed as endorsing/opposing the Zeitgeist movement. lol
JK, had to clarify.
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
As far as the Constitutionality of the Fed...Zeitgeist is right. The Fed is 100% Un-Constitutional. The Constitution is a list of what the government CAN do, not a list of what it can NOT do...and NOWHERE in the Constitution does it authorize Congress to "conjure" the Fed. The Fed is Un-Constitutional...taxes and the Treasury Dpt are Constitutional. However there is still hope because the wording is "income", vs. "wages". I need to really check that out.
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
Problem 5: It is my belief that a private banking cartel both foreign and domestic should not be controlling our monetary policy. Setting interest rates, and controlling the money supply should NOT be in the hands of "mostly" private bankers. Fractional Reserve is a way to make a sh!@#$% of money...out of nothing "thin air".
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
Correction on the "voluntary compliance". It wasn't until recently 2009? that Ron Paul got his "Audit the Fed" bill passed, but it was "gutted". So I believe the voluntary compliance thing is history, but we have yet to get a FULL audit/disclosure from the Fed. That cock sucker Barnie Frank agreed with Paul, but the puppet was told to "dance". I am fairly certain Barney no longer supports a full audit.
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
Also wanted shake a little reality into you lol as far as the Fed having oversight by Congress. I'll put it the way former Rep Alan Grayson did... paraphrasing here;
"It's kind of hard to regulate the guys writing you $5k checks"
Opensecrets is a great website to verify our politicians and Fed contributions. Obama got almost a million dollars from Government Sux in the 08 presidential election. Take a look at the new candidates as well. Then take a look after Jan 31, 2012. Super PAC's unite
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
Problem 3: The Fed is bailing out foreign banks/nations with our tax dollars.
Problem 4. The Fed is giving BILLIONS of dollars to State Sponsored Terror countries like Libya, and Egypt. These are the people who want to kill our kids and military.
Which leads me to debunk your version of what you call an "audit". The Fed is only subjected to a "partial" audit, NOT a full audit, and this is only available via "voluntary compliance", through the Fed.
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
@EndTheFedRes explain how the countries like egypt etc want to kill ur children. are u forgetting its message? That its the biased Media. Mate , The BBC, FOX NEWS ETC ARE ALL THEIRS OPEN UR EYES.
flexpape 2 months ago
@flexpape Egypt is not listed among State Sponsored Terror countries against the US, but they have (or did have) State Sponsored Terror amongst their own civilians, which we were helping fund i.e. foreign aid. This only helps perpetuate anger/hatred towards the US. We are also supplying Syria, Iran, Cuba, and Sudan with aid. You can google "list of foreign aid countries" to get the full list. It's no wonder why many in these countries hate us when we sponsor the very regimes who oppress them.
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
@EndTheFedRes So u are saying that US is not a terrorist country? Care to explain who caused the death of 3 million vietnamis. Who is giving billion of dollars of Aid to Israel to kill innocent Palestinians who is killing iraqi and afghanis? Please do not joke with me. WHY is that every Muslim country got problem with America, why don't they have problems with Russia or china,japan or other countries like that who are total infidel countries? Cmon Stop watching BBC and Cnn wATcH zeitgeist Again.
flexpape 2 months ago
@EndTheFedRes Dude the world bank etc give "donation" in the form of loan with so high interests , they actually make countries their slaves. Please dude go check out , you still think that America is Pure? if your eyes are still closed then u havn't seen Zeitgeist Message. OPEN UR EYES. these all are jewish elite families that rule the world and they have made you fool. Your planes throw bombs at marriage parties and then say " Sorry " wrong target Good deal...
flexpape 2 months ago
@flexpape Out of all that talk you believe that I think America is pure lol. Not quite...American people, maybe but not our government and the Fed. By Jews you must be referring to the Rothschilds and Warburgs? Not all Jews are bad.
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
@EndTheFedRes Mate Quran 2:101 is very descriptive verse. It says that " a party of jews" Not all Jews. The real Jews are dead in holocaust and only few Good jews are left, fooled by Zionists, why they are against zionism? Yes man the last prophecy oF Islam. The jews will capture Jerusalam and they will bring their messiah that will be anti christ and before that the whole world will be against Muslims and the seculalr world order will rise. The prophecy is completely describing current politics
flexpape 2 months ago
Fractional Reserve 101: You go to the bank with $100, the bank (in a nutshell/not actual) can now loan out $900. This $900 is money that does not exist i.e. Fractional Reserve.
Example: You take out a $200k loan to buy a home. After 30/yrs of compounding interest you end up paying ~$400k total for the home, but the bank only had $20k to begin with...So the bank lent you money they never had, and charged you interest on this fictitious non existent money. Money for nothing is evil imho.
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
@ msj120 Banks may or may not have been stable (depending on the bank), but our currency held its value. BTW notice recent bank closures? One would have to agree that the Fed has failed miserably in performing this function.
Problem 2. Fractional Reserve. I am going to describe Fractional Reserve for the masses with an example. This is NOT EXACTLY how it works, but in a nutshell yes. Fractional Reserve IMO is the ultimate form of usury. You decide where you stand (evil, good).
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
@msj120 Much of what you stated is true, but you have also been deceived, or are deceiving. I have multiple problems with the Fed. I will list them...I'll try to condense it. Thank you for clearing up the whole vote thing on Dec 23, 1913. I get tired if explaining that to people. I will list the problems randomly, by no means significance.
Problem 1: The Fed was "conjured" to combat inflation as one of its primary purposes. Since the Feds inception the dollar has lost 97% of its value.
EndTheFedRes 2 months ago
I dont even know where to start with this whiney mis-informed person. Do you really think the Federal Reserve is a nice clean organazation? How can you sit there with this farce of what you call a debunking? Be ashamed of yourself and stay asleep. Where better off without you if your going to keep thinking with this mindset.--
axcz3 3 months ago
...and i'm not saying that the barter system was without flaw. It truly did need to be represented by currency. It was much too regional to be able to flex to the globalization of the economy. Perhaps a no-growth or slow-growth economy would be better. Maybe we have reached the peak of sustainable civilization of the Earth... maybe the "growth at all costs" motto should be disbanded with.
thinkpad411 3 months ago
...is in solid gold to (stabilize) the economy". You know, why does nobody get the fact that this radiates and affects the currency of every nation the US imports/exports with. The barter system worked for years. "No that's too crude". Fine. The gold standard worked for yet more years without incidence. "No, that's too unstable, we must be able to manipulate it at will, whenever, no matter the cost. It's in the best interests of the people." No, it's to line your pockets and create scape goats.
thinkpad411 3 months ago
Pure bullshit... It amazes me that even the simple logic zeitgeist presents can fail some people like this, and whoosh right over them. It's plain and simple, the US is in a state of perpetual debt, all because the Federal Resserve decided that paper was now the official currency, so instead of exchanging gold for notes, they gave you paper that promised you the amount it claimed to be in gold. Then of course they got into the excuse "oh well we need to make more paper than there actually...
thinkpad411 3 months ago
In the netherlands they did what you describe @7:50 in the netherlands to somebody called Wesam Al D and a few others like him.
janusanus 4 months ago
Just stating that Alexander Hamilton was a founding father is meaningless. It conjures the image of Washington, Jefferson, and Franklin, without showing that he was the complete opposite. Hamilton wanted to instate British Mercantilism on American soil. When he failed to do this at the Constitutional Convention, he did everything he could to undermine the Constitution. This included twisting the General Welfare and Supremacy clauses. You clearly do not know who Hamilton was!
Slipknotyk06 4 months ago
Awesome video, as someone that actually does have an education in economics, accounting and taxation this gave me a lot of interesting things to look at.
Thanks.
awwurdead2 4 months ago
You Retard
MrPhoenix414 5 months ago
@foggymedia You read your history i see.
wavedsl1 5 months ago
why then is Ron Paul talking about loan interests and the gongressional inability to audit the federal reserve. 20 billion a month as interest. 1913, 1933, all games. go beyond zeitgeist.
wavedsl1 5 months ago
Where is the Likes bar?!
have a look, its very good /watch?v=tGk5ioEXlIM
and then have a look at their site, the knowledge part in particular.
theamericandreamfilm(dot) com/the-knowledge.php
Willaras 5 months ago
@bubbafillupmacrackin Ad hominem.
Keitaro2011 5 months ago
zeitgeist is nonsense in some respects but youtube shows-there's no limit to morons that post videos such as this one.
The problem with early banking wasn't the lack of a central bank, the problem was fractional reserve banking plus there was no regulator auditing banks so anyone could open one, but no way to tell which ones were good.
Also this moron should read history. Alexander Hamilton was working on behalf of those who had a vested interest in a central bank.
foggymedia 6 months ago
Zeitgeist is nonsense on some issues, yes. However, I thought they were pretty spot on in regards to talking about the federal Reserve and our monetary system.
general440lee 6 months ago
After watching these fully, I find many of your arguments to be false.
The act is not a law, and it does not FORCE people to submit their tax forms, which is what zeitgeist was saying. It simply says that people must file, but does not give them a penalty for not doing so.
WWI was indeed started by the sinking of the Lusitania. It was two years after that we went to war, this is true, but the Lusitania was the cause.
The RFID isn't at the global tracking yet, but it could be.
ConfuciousDragon 6 months ago
Taking all things into consideration, here... I believe that while you may be right on a couple points, TZM on a whole is correct in their claims. Some claims may be bent truths, but what they are saying is indeed correct.
The RBE is a very good alternative to what we have currently, and I don't see anything refuting it as of yet. While there is the possibility that not everything was an elaborate hoax, what Zeitgeist proposes is absolutely beneficial to our society and should be embraced.
ConfuciousDragon 6 months ago
"It passed the senate 43 in favour to 25 not in favour and 27 not voting"
Well, then Zeitgeist has a point. if the 27 that were away had gotten a chance to vote, it could have been refuted. 43 to 52 at most - but still a good margin that may have voted against it. Not to mention the absentees not being able to argue against the bill, and possibly change some people's minds.
That being said, I enjoy hearing the other side of an argument, and you did show me that TZM might not be 100% Correct.
ConfuciousDragon 6 months ago
Ok WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERY APPLAUD ABOUT ZEITGEIST VIEW ON RELIGION!!! AND IGNORE THE FACT THAT THERE "NEW WORLD ORDER" IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT AND UNREALISTIC TO ME THEY SEEM LIKE A RELIGION THEMSELVES
ZackAttack261 7 months ago
I wonder why so many Zeitgeist debunk videos don't allow rating and usually not even comments.
kaakatin 8 months ago
I do believe you are mistaken, if would have researched The federal Reserve completely, you would that what they is (for the most part) true. Watch "Money Masters", then maybe you will know what you are talking about. For true freedom and sound money vote Ron Paul 2012 Listen to what he has to say about The Federal Reserve. He started my research.
ripcord420 8 months ago
I'm afraid you will find all the facts presented by the movie are infact correct on the federal reserve.. Now I'm not in favour of Zeitgeist and I'm even banned from the channel before you start pointing fingers.
Valshala 8 months ago
I don't understand. JP Morgan, Rockerfeller, Chase invested their money in WHAT to halt the decline in the stock market on Black Tuesday? Their Own stocks? GM? Or the imminent WWII? Because none of their trickle-down investing worked for the American ppl. Did it ever? A lot of what you claim does not disprove Peter Joseph's facts. Even your point on President Wilson making the Fed Res. law, okay... you just go on to how the senate voted for it. Wilson still signed that bill into LAW, right?
Filmchica 8 months ago
I don't understand. JP Morgan, Rockerfeller, Chase invested their money in WHAT? to halt the decline in the stock market. Their Own? GM? Or the imminent WWII? Because none of their trickle-down investing work for the American ppl. Did it ever? A lot of what you claim does not disprove Peter Josephs facts. Even your attack on President Wilson making the Fed Res. law, okay... you just go on to how the senate voted for it. Wilson still signed that bill into LAW, right?
Filmchica 8 months ago
USS Louisiana was decommissioned on 20 October 1920 and was sold for scrap, November 1923.. never sunk. Maybe canadians should not be giving out facts about their crippled brother to the south. And we wont post facts about how our retarted brother to the north is just a french illegitimate albino by our non-english speaking brother to the south. (That still has to start paying us for back support on for raising them all these years, im serious Juan im goning to my lawyers about this on friday.)
wolfbco347 9 months ago
You can't besmirch the names of Rockefeller, Chase, Morgan, and company. That's like saying you're trying to make feces look bad.
jackdtroughton 9 months ago
This little boy cracks me up!!! What Zeitgeist says about the Fed Res and it's relationship with the US Govt is entirely true, and no banking insider would deny it. The entire monetary system is a fragile perpetual growth fuelled Ponzi scheme, and if growth were to stop, it would collapse just as fast; no economist worth their salt would deny this. The economist and the banking insider would rationalise it, not deny it, because it is self evident that this is the only way to make money.
boogiefiend 9 months ago 3
this kid is a joke, every single thing said about the federal reserve is straight out of MODERN MONEY MECHANICS. and they left out a lot maby this kid is just so uninformed he dosent know the difference.
cptmuska 10 months ago 5
@cptmuska You don't even know what Modern Mechanics says. Zeitgeist just spins it up to make you believe you're fucked. That's what all conspiracy theories do.
GunsNRosesbitches 1 month ago
@GunsNRosesbitches Well said,
ann03071874 2 weeks ago
@cptmuska Maybe you should learn to spell before spewing bullshit and calling grown men, "kids." You are childish and sad person.
clevelandtyler2 2 weeks ago
95-320 specifically states that the GAO cannot audit ANYTHING except under the emergency lending facilities... They cannot audit the FOMC or International lending to central banks whatsoever. In a nutshell, they cannot be audited.
ScrollAndKeyBeatz 10 months ago 2
ask Ron Paul and Denis Kunicis how easy it is to audit the fed and when actually it happened last time. as i recollect- NEVER. please...
andyOsalek 10 months ago 2
Thanks... I really trust all the banks now... they surely are the good guys who do everything in our interest
Talalay99 11 months ago 2
MSJ- would you care citing your sources? Also I have looked over your Cornell page with Title 26, and have not found the law yet, just percentages of how much they take from you, not to mention countless other websites ive checked, that cite sources, including IRS documents, saying there is no law. Credibility is key my friend.
GlassHalfEmpty23 11 months ago
This is not true, you think we are free? There is just to many things that are happening now that show the government corrupt , try debunking my documentary
specialchannel 11 months ago
MSJ- Your presentation of the monetary system is full of a number of half-truths. I would recommend a rereading of monetary history by Steven Zarlenga of the American Monetary Institute ("The Lost Science of Money"). I think you will be surprised what you find. The fraudulent design of the modern banking system is based on fractional reserve accounting. You need,above all, to remain open minded or your prejudicial perspective will prevent you from understanding the world around you. Best.
zwiespaltu2 11 months ago
no one knows what the fuck is going on, zeitgeisters are just as retarded if not more so as the folks who buy into msm.
canibaloxide 11 months ago
You should cite your sources.
seathswift 11 months ago
Whats the point of the fed even applying interest to their loans if the treasurey isn't required to pay it back?
rowanessence 11 months ago
great video
goozbaghali 11 months ago
You're not getting it bro.
You're refuting all of ZG's claims of conspiracy by saying, "No, no, it actually happened the way the newspaper said. Rich, greedy, powerful men always have the interests of the proletariat in mind. They want us to live well and become equal in financial stature so we can challenge their way of life." Yeah effing right.
WAKEUP.
First thing I learned in basic political science: #1 priority of all politicians is to stay in power.
MrHypermoto 11 months ago
my god this guy is major deluded as much as the mad theorists ,truth alwasys lys somewhere in between the extremes
azbreee 1 year ago
oh dude....who the fuck are you working for...your video here is a complete lie , you and I both know the fed is unconstitutional...im thinking ur an dis-info agent , do your fucking research and quit lying to the world ass hole!!
doc
DOCSAFETUBE 1 year ago
What are you, a disinfo as_hole ? Hamilton was an agent for the illuminati!!!! You're a traitor, liar, and a dick....
antekatetaketna 1 year ago
@antekatetaketna The Illuminati doesn't exist anymore science won out over religion so it was no longer required and was disband over a century ago.
But then I wouldn't expect you to know that, after all its very easy to claim someone is a member of a fictional organization because then you don't need to present any evidence of it and none can be presented to refute your claim either.
You people are all nuts
Kingucktoad 1 year ago
@Kingucktoad What about the Jesuits? Just inquiring as to your position. As you've stated the illuminati IS in fact fiction, a front organization.
GlassHalfEmpty23 11 months ago
@GlassHalfEmpty23 What about them? As far as I know Jesuits are just a group of religious fundamentalists looking to press a particular agenda no different then any other ideological organization. Kind of like a political party or and NGO. Just a group of like minded people trying to a particular view. I see no reason for suspecting anything else is going on other then the exercise of religious freedom.
Kingucktoad 11 months ago
@Kingucktoad Are you aware that the Jesuits have been kicked out of 83 countries in the past 100 years for provoking wars and civil skirmishes for profit? And now they reside in the Vatican, the tippy-top of all the Secret Societies is located in the Vatican, who are known to be ruthless, money driven, definitely not holy, men, surrounded by your holiness haha just wanted to point a few things out because you reminded me of myself. Approach everything like a scientist. But dig like your an
GlassHalfEmpty23 11 months ago
@GlassHalfEmpty23 archeaologist.
GlassHalfEmpty23 11 months ago
The catholic church has been responsible for more genocides then any other institution in recorded history
This does not equate to a conspiracy that's just how one pushed an agenda in the days before democracy. Violence was the only way to convince others to agree with you.
Note. the Jesuits gave refuge to Jews during the holocaust and are currently one of the largest supporters of education in the developing world, not exactly the MO of a secret society bent on world domination.
Kingucktoad 11 months ago
when u said the gov would just kill you or make false claims it kinda reminded me of william copper.you should look him up if you havent already.
skateistheanwser 1 year ago
You're completely disregarding the strong possibility that this was all brought in by people who are above the government. You're justifying everything as if the system is trustworthy. If you consider that this was done from above the government then all of this is discounted.
clancychris 1 year ago
From Wikipedia (regarding the Fed); "The U.S. Government receives all of the system's annual profits, after a statutory dividend of 6% on member banks' capital investment is paid, and an account surplus is maintained."
'Member banks', '6% dividend'. That is what you need to look for, and what this video also fails to mention.
TerraRubicon 1 year ago
It's amusing to see how anyone who dares think for themselves and educate themselves beyond the conventional orthodoxy of narrow-minded academic authoritarianism and therein challenges it, is quick to get labelled 'conspiracy theorist'. Turn over the record please. Intellect is not intelligence. It's stupidity disguised as cleverness.
Foxxeee 1 year ago
Do NOT trus TV at all. They lie more then federal reserve(fuckers)
kuken3000 1 year ago
IT DID NOT FAIL.
As recent as the past 2 years we have had to bail banks out with our tax dollars.
You do realize you are getting your information DIRECTLY FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE.
Central Banks are evil and unnecessary.
Just like your bullshit "debunk"...quit being so naive and brainwashed .
Amendments dont mean anything.
We are stripped of our Civil Liberties every day.
You keep telling us to look things up ourselves? Well if the information you say is so correct and easily available, show us
morespininjellyfish 1 year ago
Video creator, yes, Alexander Hamilton was a federalist that believed in a strong federal government. That is why he believed in having a strong central bank. However, you forget to point out that James Madison, also a founder, was against it! Read the federalist papers big guy... This video has not debunked anything. In fact, there's a ton of conclusory statements not backed by specific facts proving your point. This is ALL your opinion which does not debunk or prove anything.
alculus07 1 year ago
Don't trust anyone who uses the word 'Debunk'
peking18 1 year ago
very weak research, little evidence to support your pro-federal reserve stance.
A currency created AT INTEREST is against the moral principles of the major world religions, which condemn USUARY.
go to the back of the class...
9012jive 1 year ago
Your research is very weak. You need to start with "The Creature From Jekyll Island", by G Edward Griffin, "Tragedy and Hope" by Carol Quigley and then move on to at least four of Dr. Antony Sutton's publications before you can make any comments about the federal reserve. The Fed Reserve is without a doubt the most insidious institution and fraud ever perpetrated upon the American people.
willhelmfred05 1 year ago
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Proof of syncretism of Christianity to Pagan religions start here--->/watch?v=DNJ2RZJMG3k
Proof that Horus did have 12 disciples that he commissioned to do the work of his father, was born of the virgin Isis, and other Zeitgeist claims start here===> /watch?v=rdbgou-Jt-g
Zeitgeist debunked was debunked...with primary sources.
changingmyself 1 year ago
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HOW THIS ZEITGEIST DOESNT BELIEVE WITH BAD AND GOOD TO BE JUDGED HERE AT THE LAST DAY? THE SPIRT SHOULD BE STRONG WHEN CHOSEN BY GOD...FOR ZEITGEIST NO WAR NO KILLINGS...HOW CAN A GOOD SPIRIT BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVIL ONE? THERE SHOULD BE A SEPARATION IN BETWEEN WEAK AND STRONG, THATS WHY WE ARE HERE IN THIS WORLD FOR A MERE TEST..AND THIS IS NOT A HEAVEN...GOD IS NOT UNFAIR OR MAN-MADE GOD FOR WHAT THIS MOVEMENT IS TRYING TO EMPHASIZE. WE SHOULD LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKE...BEWARE!!
KelvongKlein 1 year ago
And you people wonder why this stuff isn't being taken seriously by anyone important either academically or otherwise? Because it is falicy. Conspiracy theorists are generally people with little knowledge in an actual field who cite poor sources out of context. Zeigeist is nothing different, and yet again, has been laughed out of the house by people who actually know what they're talking about. Your truth is no different to any other. Cynicism is easy.
hippychild123 1 year ago
xD Looking at the comments... I see pissed of failliures. It's pretty sad. 'I hate working so I'mma be a cynic!' Oh the chuckles... I hate the way things are too, Zeitgeist is still full of shit. I can't really talk about American constitution as I'm not American, but the religion stuff was just rubbish.. It just shows how easy the internet has made cynicism. It was all taken out of context, and mainly just wrong.
hippychild123 1 year ago
What a dipshit!!!! Yeah go ahead buddy "save" money for retirement if you believe in the fed!!! Lets see how that works out for you. He tries to cleverley disguise the fact that the Income tax and the 16th amendment and the Federal reserve act came into law with the same president. in 1913.....Wow what a coincidence!!! Now from that point the fed and the gov had a guns and butter maker from that point on didnt they? What a fukin dipshit!!!!! The fed is the enabler for the gov dummy!!!!
Shebadad 1 year ago
no one is ever right
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offertorycardiacml 1 year ago
what a stupid video. who are u, the anti truth commision?
effrin999 1 year ago
back in the 20s the big bankers did pump millions of the money back into the market then they pulled out then the market continued it fall.
Tezlaze 1 year ago
fail
willowb22 1 year ago
Read books as well as internet sources and you'll see between the bullshit you're saying. Especially books published around the great depression. Even the pro-socialist H.G. Wells is more revealing than, I think, he wants to be in his non-fiction. Read anything by Clarence Seward Darrow, Thorstein Veblen, Bernard Shaw, or even people nearer today like Carl Sagan, Frank Ogden, and even Mr. Rockefeller his self. Please, in stead of ranting absurdities, educate yourself on more than wikipedia.
randycurry666 1 year ago
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kc0696 1 year ago
publicly "appointed"...you dipshit!
BERNAKE AND GREENSPAN even said TO THE FACE OF THE "PUBLIC" on t.v. that they are not accountable to the "public".when asked by congressional committee about bailout money they answered "we don't have to tell you!
you knob!
THE INCOME TAX ACT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR COMMERCIAL/BUSINESS TAX- NOT INDIVIDUAL WAGES.
Russo didn't know SPECIFICALLY what was going to be, just outline of what was going to happen.
get chipped dufus,you're already mentally enslaved ..
only1too 1 year ago
you're still missing the point in this video. The fact that the monetary system creates separation, elitism, divides, poor health, deprivation, wars, environmental pollution... the list goes on. Are you saying you'd rather live in this world, enslaved in your 9-5, making someone else rich? Or are you just saying that you don't quite understand it yet, and want more answers? Think about it.
BrightDigitalProduct 1 year ago
fucking booohoooo dude quit wasting ur time trying to justify the shit that is apparant.... im sorry holmes ur ignorant , goto the mall buy useless shit you dont need , walk around like a fucking billboard eating mcdonalds stick ur head in the sand sheepstrich
dennisvic87 1 year ago
Also, Asron Russo DID go to the authorities with his information pre-911, but as usual, the CIA, FBI etc, took the info and did nothing with it. Rationalize your world as best you can my friend, It wont change the facy that rich people will always desire MORE wealth and power, and they dont care what happens to us for them to get it....
Purplemoneyguy 1 year ago
The FED shows the public EXACTLY what they want them to see, nothing more. The FED is audited, quite regularly, but these are performed by a 'private' institution, so it's like telling the mafia to pick a 'private' audit them, and expect an honest answer. At the end of the day, If the FED has nothing to hide, they won't fear a government Audit, however, the FED is a business, and they want to make MONEY, our money, at our expense, To hell with the little people it hurts on the way.
Purplemoneyguy 1 year ago
alex hamilton was in fact a founding father and a banking insider.
gninja92 1 year ago
zeitgeist is propaganda and misinformation
sfiorare 1 year ago
Zeitgeist is all wrong - maybe
...and the US is not interested in the oil of Iraq, it really wants to help the people of this country,all the killings are just unfortunate accidents and yes I heard you guys have free education and medical cover in the US. Discusse the real issues, your soldiers kill innocent people, there is no excuse. Bush and more of your countrymen consider themselves christians and violate christianities main message : thou shall not kill!!! - no exception I'm aware of
shifitbaby 1 year ago
@shifitbaby I'm a soldier of the US ARMY and I was in Iraq for two tours, and I can tell you first hand that there where very few accidental deaths when I walked the streets of Baghdad. The people would kill each other, over shop territory or money and claim that al qaeda was behind it.
evankyle86 1 year ago
@evankyle86 thanks for your reply,
I can't really comprehend what you must have experienced in those two years and you have my true compassion.
You shouldn't have been there in the first place, your presence in Iraq was justified on false grounds by your government, its supporting allies and the ones that hold the strings. War was and always will be a means to create power for one by destroying the other, which automatically leads to more violence, as the "loser" won't accept this "agreement"
shifitbaby 1 year ago
@shifitbaby We would run into random dead bodies in the street with throats cut, and bullet wounds, but most, the dogs got to and not even a coroner would be able to know what happened. The ppl killed by us troopers on the ground took shots at us and tried to kill us, or blow us up... we returned the favor.
evankyle86 1 year ago
@evankyle86 we feed a beast and obey to its rules, that even makes us killers. If you want peace drop the weapon, if you want peace and you come with weapons you do look very scary and I will protect myself.
If you are still in Iraq, get out of there and find love again - all the best to you
shifitbaby 1 year ago
You are a pathetic, SLUT boy joke of corporate propaganda. If you are defending tyranny of banks and world elites, then you are pathetic SCUM. Zeitgiest told more truth than a low down corporate cock sucking bitch boy like you would ever be man enough to tell. Why did you take down the ratings for this video, you little punk ass bitch ??? You are a LIAR and a propaganda artist, if you ever insulted my intelligence about bankster greed and propaganda, I would slap your teeth out pussy bitch !
EducatedRebellion101 1 year ago
sorry for being long winded. 500 characters sucks
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
but that doesnt happen nowadays. they dont need to anymore . why is that? cause theyre way to fucking powerful. and we are to put it very plainly a bunch of cows on a farm that they can do whatever they want with. but eventually enough will be enough and there wil most definately be a stampede.
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
the biggest one is your ending. the us dollar is now being looked severely down upon from all other countries. our dollar is worth the least but used the most. very soon countries will stop accepting our checks. do you think rfid cant be improved upon? and lastly you say it loud and clear. the us government can empty our bank account, foreclose on our homes, give us bad credit, a criminal record, and make us completely worthless. or they could just kill us cause it would be easier.
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
a lot of banks may have failed those first years "without the fed". true. but the point that is trying to be made is that the entire country didnt fail because of it. and just because alexander hamilton and james monroe were really important people in history doesnt mean they were good people. you have to think outside the box. these people should never be looked upon as something altruistic and "holy". they were just normal folks with the ability to be just as fucked up as the rest of us.
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
although i dont fully agree with every single little piece of zeitgeist, i totally disagree with the thin gs your saying. your just very misinformed. not trying to bash you but you really do need to look for better sources of information than wikipedia. the internet is just another form of media and there can be some serious bullshit on there as well as some startling truths. i suppose you could use that very arguement in your favor as well. you just have to think outside the box a bit more.
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
those banks failed because of the major banks at the time forced them out of business... do your research. the federal reserve has never been audited, ive seen actual hearings in congress were they ask the federal reserve for notes. so your telling me i made that up? dude open your eyes. why do you think the stock market crashed? the stock is controlled, why do you think they have "put out" bets. i can respect what your doing here, but your missing key points and facts.
prototype81 1 year ago
@prototype81 You make a good point and I dont understand why people like this are trying to protect the banks. Maybe its the bankers kids and they dont want to lose their toys....idk....
samah101 1 year ago
LOL I love this! All of you (debunkers) are doing a great job...
BlaqNebula1 1 year ago
Then you go on to say the former IRS agents need to take a second look as if you really dont see a reason why you found the answer on the internet and they couldnt find it after years. BECAUSE YOURE WRONG. People have won court cases over it. The 16th ammendment does not in any way justify the tax of LABOR. Also when you talk about the US looking for any reason to join the war, you cite the first World War. Zeitgeist makes mention to pearl harbor and WW2. Get your shit straight bro.
allowmetointroducems 1 year ago
"It passed the senate with 43 in favor to 24 not in favor AND 27 NOT VOTING"....You say that and move on as if its of no importance. Its the exact point the movie makes. Because it passed in the house doesnt make it a law. When 27 of the senators needed to vote on something this monumental are away on break I think its a valid stance for the movie.
allowmetointroducems 1 year ago
The US dollar is one of the Most Trust dollars in existence". Are you fucking kidding me....? And just how many dollars have existed in the history of this planet you baby brained wanna be intellectual? OHHHH, crazy there has pretty much just been one dollar in existence...Weird! Get a life you wanna be scholar".
shaunseverson13 1 year ago
ACTS 2 38 is for everyone forget all this atheism its nothing more than the spirit of the antichrist the Lord God almighty is soon to return and i will look at satan and laugh im going to preach this gospel to the whole world nobody will ever convince me there is no God i have seen to many miracles and prophecies we are living in strange times and the spiritual wickedness in high places do not want you to know what a threat the bible and the name of Jesus Christ really is satan hates that name
erichathy222 1 year ago
@erichathy222 You have not observed any miracles that happend by magical cercumstances. Zero, Zilch, Nada, none. You have not "seen TOO man miracles" because you have not seen even one. Every miracle you claim to have seen could have happend under NATURAL cercumstances. You have not seen anything magical like the Red Sea being parted or a person being resurected from the dead. What you have observed that you claim miracle could have just happend had there not been any magical god doing it..none!
shaunseverson13 1 year ago
This guy makes some good points but, the reality is, you simply cant trust our government. This go's for all of it;s areas. The Federal Reserve is not your friend, and it really isnt needed. In short, Zeitgeist, has some truth to it and of course much of it is false. None the less, it makes you think. Thinking is exactly what the big boys dont want us doing, if you know what i mean...
axcz3 1 year ago 13
@axcz3 Are you sure the Zeitgeist is false and not this guy? Did you do the research? As unbelievable as it might seem this guy might really be a dis-info agent(this stuff really happens)...however, a little doubt in the movement is always good...prevents you from becoming a fanatic.
One thing I'm certain of, is that I support the Venus project. It's by far the best thing we have right now.
TukenNuken 1 year ago
@TukenNuken: Funny how he claims there is nothing secret about the Federal Reserve Yet in the last couple of years, more and more senators and leaders are calling for an end of the Federal Reserve Secrecy. Ron Paul just addressed the senate about this.
genesis21111 1 year ago
One thing is for Damn Sure, the leaders of the Christians, Jews, Islam, ect., ect., are NOT banning together under "God the One Father" to bring peace to the world! Religion is in question, not God! The Zeitgeist film shows, IN TRUTH AND FACT, how the Federal Reserve and American Presidents have tricked American Citizens into wars! We dont have to be Dependent on oil! We The People can change We The People for the better!
sonnyandbilly 1 year ago 14
i stopped watching at 1:10 everyone freeze frame that image and then decide if you believe this information
AmetdeathA 1 year ago
@AmetdeathA ahahaha so true, thought I was the only one that caught that
Educ8t 1 year ago
Not sure where I stand on 9/11 or the federal reserve, but the religion part of Zeitgeist (of which I was a big fan) seemed to good to be true to me being an atheist. I looked into it and it was mostly false, why would he lie about something like religion when it's so easy to debunk religion? So for all we know the rest of Zeitgeist could be fake.
Condition1Latin 1 year ago
Someones afraid that people will hate them. Insecure much?
ljdavinci13 1 year ago
one word: Bilderberg
Best place to check it out is at: NNDB Mapper. Put Barack Obama in the search window, then look for the mapper in the top right of the window that opens up... Open the mapper and look for Bilderberg : Expand it.
b4dddds 1 year ago
@b4dddds In another 3 words ," Now your talking" ! You dont believe any of this shit, look at The Bilderbergs !
axcz3 1 year ago
and the audit you talk about take out the feds most crucial activities...so the fed never really was audit since its creation in 1913 I actually do my researche
TheBlackPrince26 1 year ago
naah you got it wrong....il debunk some parts the others are too long to explain...after the sinking of lusitania the united states started increasin there military budget with national defense act of 1916....you talk about amero but you didnt debunk anyhing of course it wouldnt be done in secret, sevaral federal reserve in past stopped cuz policticiens knew danger, deferal reserve chairman appointed by the president BUT federal reserve is OWNED BY PRIVATE BANKERS...kucinich ron paul listen2 dem
TheBlackPrince26 1 year ago
Fail
biglove599 1 year ago
@msj120:
you are a CUNT !!!!
ZitaKhan 1 year ago
thank you for this, too many lies in the world today...hopefully they're just growing pains.
binarysolo2 1 year ago
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youre a fucking idiot dude just stop
Tommyvu08 1 year ago
Where does the Federal Reserve get its money from? There you go.
Who owns/invested in the Federal Reserve? There you go again.
Jononutoob 1 year ago
I think that the creator of this video did an excellent job. The only reason that the people commenting so vehemently disagree with him is because they are all the people who sit at home with no job smoking dope all day. The highly intelligent people who work all day don't have time to watch zeitgeist and the refutations thereof.
getdjman 1 year ago 2
@getdjman: I've read his book. It's complete and utter garbage. And it's been debunked so many times. It's really pathetic that people would believe a Lunatic. >_>
Eternalsummersong 1 year ago
@Eternalsummersong Who's book?
getdjman 1 year ago
@getdjman: The 12th planet is written by this man. You can find it on Amazon.
Eternalsummersong 1 year ago
@getdjman: Stupid YouTube...I'll post this again. The book Zeitgeist wrote was called the 12th planet. Utter trash. You can find it on Amazon.
Eternalsummersong 1 year ago
@getdjman Smoke dope all day? No job? The truth is people who try to discredit what other people say use no proof to back what they say, most of the time. I don't use drugs nor am I jobless, The highly intelligent people who work all day don't have time to watch zeitgeist? Where is the research to back this theory? I am extremely offended by your comments. The truth is zeitgeist is a good foundation for a better way of life. So what is this video proposing?
anrchyx 1 year ago 2
@anrchyx I was definitely out of line, and am genuinely sorry. I respect Zeitgeist for its endeavors, and am a proponent of having a great diversity of thought in society. However, I do believe that there are suspicious holes in the presentation of the aforementioned. It seems to me, from research that I have independently accumulated through the years, that it is a run of the mill conspiracy. Once again, I apologize for my derogatory statements.
getdjman 1 year ago
@getdjman ...You're pretty dumb.
MyOnlyFarph 1 year ago
... The RFID would become our bank account our credit out lisence... The point was that once the world relies on the chip all they need to do to threaten any one out of line is disabling their RFID and after that they would be no one... It was never about "Tracking" people and the fact that you can duplicate the chip is irrelevant. Other things that you say I also noticed that are incorrect but frankly this is all too boring and i care not enough to invest time in internet arguments...
manatyson 1 year ago
@manatyson Watch zeitgeist. They SPECIFICALLY say "RFID TRACKING chip!" Also, if you can duplicate the chip, it would rnder such threats meaningless.
Keitaro2011 5 months ago
@Keitaro2011 We cant even duplicate credit cards let a lone a sensitive piece of nano technology
manatyson 5 months ago
I'm no expert in finances or banking but people today will believe anything. Do your homework and actually look at the sources both sides provide. Opinionated and conspiracy based sources don't count.
edd542 1 year ago
i wasnt going to comment but this pissed me off.... when you said the 16th amendment debunks that taxes have to be apportioned its complete craziness. AMENDMENTS are things put in after the constitution is written. You can AMEND anything you want. you can AMEND the constitution to say you need to eat shit every 3rd and 4th saturday of the month. Amendments are not part of the agreement our for-fathers signed. They are ways to get around it. THERE SHOULD BE NO AMENDMENTS.
nick22187 1 year ago
Are you kidding? Bet you won't be reposting this video in 1 year.
TheJm8284 1 year ago
conspiracy science.com
check out this site, its an objective response to zeitgeist............
and you can skip part one if you like many people have already discussed that online and it really comes down to whether or not you believe in religion which is not really the point I'm trying to convey.
it goes into great detail as to what this guy is talking about
devastatingdoug 1 year ago
@devastatingdoug
Check out the TZM forums for a response to that site.
FuManBoobs 1 year ago
@FuManBoobs please tell me its not the post where peter j talks about people suffering from "mind-lock", and how the people on conspiracy science are too set in their ways to accept his information. I read that and find that very hypocritical of PJ, no one is right all the time, why does PJ act like he is in despite of evidence against his movies. Zeitgeist addendum talks about how being proven wrong or being correct is a way of growing, yet PJ ignores information he doesn't like.
devastatingdoug 1 year ago
@devastatingdoug
I'm referring to the post where he goes point by point explaining how Edward on Conspiracy Science is wrong.
Others contributing to the same thread debunk the rest of what Conspiracy Science states.
Thread name - Re:Consp-Science(dot)com: A Case Study in Intellectual Inhibition
Is this the one you're referring to?
FuManBoobs 1 year ago
@FuManBoobs yeah thats the one I read, could you tell me about the one your talking about, I would be willing to read it.
devastatingdoug 1 year ago
@devastatingdoug
Thats the same one. Did you read it all? When did you last look at it?
What I read there seems to explain why Edward was wrong on a lot of things.
FuManBoobs 1 year ago
@FuManBoobs Well I have been watching it, cant say I read it all but plan to, I got about 7 or 8 pages in. I fail to see where he proves CS is wrong. The first post by PJ goes point by point why he doesn't agree with them, he doesn't really comment on the facts CS present, just criticizes their position. The closest thing I have seen to PJ debunking CS is peter and Edward both believe the other has mis-interpreted modern money mechanics. I don't expect CS to be right ALL the time nor Peter.
devastatingdoug 1 year ago
@FuManBoobs Also my main point was that a lot of people are complaining that this video has little information, Its only a couple minutes so it can't go into good detail, I mentioned CS because they have similar comments about part 3 of zeitgeist and go into more detail then this video.
devastatingdoug 1 year ago
@dro305 this video is not great...comon now you think that if some idiot makes a video and put to the videos name Debunked then he or she realy Debunks anything ? ...no ...see zeitgeist one is based on pre existing information...the problem is that ...all the Debunkers think that the information what they use or the source is more plausible as peter josephs info sources...but no who sais what is more plausible...this video means nothing
thelion2430 1 year ago
You sound like a shill for the Fed. You can't use documents FROM the fed to prove they're a benevolent institution. Like Christians can't use the bible to prove the bible. Fail! The founding fathers were Rich, White, Land/Slave Owning ELITES who made America a land where only Rich, White, Land Owing Males could even vote, Slavery was Legal and women & children were Chattel. Land of the free? Please. Just b/c something is "Legal" doesn't make it RIGHT. WAR is Legal, but is just Legal Mass Murder.
kingofthebrittains 1 year ago
good call thanks for the research.
I am still a big fan, but its a breath of fresh air to have other views on this stuff
Thanks
magazinestock 1 year ago
President Andrew Jackson was responsible for bringing down the Second central bank of the U.S. by using his veto power. He than wrote a letter to the Senate to explained why he did. READ IT!!
chriscoolguy15 1 year ago
modern money mechanics anyone?
aevengelon 1 year ago
Great vid man. Ignore the dipshits who treat Zestiest like it's religion. Lots of people can't think critically about their own personal mythos and get real mad at those who try.
simroos2 1 year ago
America, the father of recession. Has this to say, okay wait a second, I live in india, and we still have a gold as collateral value against our currency. And it seems no matter what you call Indians, our currency will survive and our economy is one of the largest in the world. Democracy here works better here, u cant upset 1 billion people and get away with it. True our country does have problems, but were barely 60 years young.
royev2il 1 year ago
Just because politicians are good at keeping information away from you doesn't mean it is not happening. That's the point of Zeitgest. I may not agree with every single theory the people have but you need to learn how to take what you can from each story. And the banks do loan money from thin air out at interest. Check First National Bank of Montgomery vs Jerome Daly 1969. Pretty simple stuff there.
SOJotacon 1 year ago
The World War I ship is the LOO-sih-TAY-nee-ah. Not Louisiana, Mr. Documentary Maker. Sorry man, it's just hard to take you seriously. The video sucks.
MrBrando101 1 year ago
This video is the worst..you might as well cited sesame street
shilber1 1 year ago
wow dude seriously have you taken any economic classes? or did you look it up wikipedia? lol dude actually if your video was made before the zeitgeist movie, then the zeitgeist movie would have debunked your video. lol you certainly have never taken economic classes and obviously you dont know that the government sells bonds to the federal reserve and also other countries so that we can pay our debt.... which cause to have an even bigger debt resulting in an endless cycle
maradona2 1 year ago
You failed to answer the most important question. Who owns the federal reserve?
6:04 "The US dollar is one of the most trusted dollars in existence." Really? First off the US dollar isnt trusted by many nations today. Second the US "dollar" is the only "dollar" currency so of course it would be the most trusted "dollar". "Secrecy is repugnant in a open and free society"JFK.
Jononutoob 1 year ago
I think the maker of this video clearly stayed away from obvious information about the federal reserve and central banks in the US that would have supported zeitgeist's ideas such as the jekyll island "duck hunt" meeting. He does this because there is no way to could refute or ridicule this evidence.
I have come to dislike a lot of zeitgeist, but if you are looking for a truly great documentary on money look for the money masters.
SeaverofSweden 1 year ago
well. why billions have to put their selves into life long debts for banks?
why i cant have nothing without bank's debt based "solutions"?
videos like this is just a last call of stupidity. people see how their lives r rolling down. they dont need to know how many "good" revisions were made on that private bank.
system is goin down. spread zeitgeist before it is not too late! wake up! and think for your self!
TheAtheistworld 1 year ago
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this video is the last call of religious stupidity.
i even think that this could be made by atheistic people to make a laugh from religions. it is so funny: "zeitgeist is for minority", "and put it for rest once and for all.." that shaking voice makes me laugh.
wake up people! spread zeitgeist in all ways. religious delusions and weak minded people r goin to an end.
there is nothing that zeitgeist makes u do. it just talks about problems that r most important for ALL of us. act now! wake up!
TheAtheistworld 1 year ago