Northern Ireland was created with the support and permission of the Irish government elected by the Irish people and supported by the majority of Ireland even after it was agreed.
This agreement is known as the Anglo-Irish Treaty when Ireland agreed that Northern Ireland where the majority of people are British can remain part of the United Kingdom under British rule.
It is undemocratic and against International law to then go against that agreement unless the people of NI wish for it.
@51wins That wish should be for everybody on the whole island of Ireland and not just for the people in the British-constructed state of Northern Ireland. In 1918 the Irish people voted for the removal of foreign British power from the whole island of Ireland yet the north east was still severed, and you have the nerve to talk about democracy?
this vid, speaks the truth about ireland,, its will make people understand what realy happened, and how the land was stolen by the brits and the planters, the loyalist scum,TAL
@afroboyify Lol, afro the English and Scots have ruled the island of Ireland for nearly 1000 years! We've more right to be there than some ex pat plastic paddy pretending to live in Boston!
@TheBritishUnionist well what would you know mike, your family had to leave ireland because they were spys for the british,btw mike i dont see anything about the welsh in your comment, to you there not brits lol ps never come back, your not wanted hehehe
@afroboyify Has there ever been much of a Welsh presence in Ireland in the way their has been English & Scots? Some of my ancestors had to leave southern Ireland due to their religion. Apparently there were some bigots who didn't like any christians who weren't ruled by Rome!
Yep some Welsh naturally moved to Ireland but the move was mostly promoted to Northern English and Southern Scots. To be honest I think the King at the time was glad to get rid of them lol.
My family also had to leave Southern Ireland due to Roman Catholic/IRA bigots who burnt their home and ordered them to leave. and yet these are the people today who talk of respect !
The attacks still continue in certain places yet the media rarely reports it.
Was actually talking about Northern Ireland and the attacks still happening not Southern Ireland. Although! at times Orange Halls, Churches, Church Halls or Protestants cars homes etc have their windows smashed etc in the Republic. Every now and then Orange or Churches are attacked.
@51wins"Although! at times.........." Don't mean to be annoying you but have you any proof at all to these claims.My parents told me about Prod homes (mostly beautiful houses/mansions) being destroyed during the last century and how Prods were forced out in some areas.
Mate not sure where u live today but 99.999999% of people in the South have more productive things to be doing then getting involved directly in the Northern issue.Time is the only solution however long that may take.
@51wins Sorry to hear about your parents ordeal but while it's probably impossible for you to fathom alot of people back then had strong emotions on a religous scale.
I would have thought that nowadays that us irish would be better off burning down our own churches ;-) Hope i'm not going to hell for that comment :D but appearently i will.
What i'm saying is that things have improved here so much that anyone can live here in peace.Religion has taken a back seat,thank god and pardon the pun.
A minority on both sides sadly over the years have pulled people into conflict with each-other. Today in Northern Ireland like it was across Ireland years ago both faiths get on well together.
A minority still out there wants to continue fighting (Dissident Republicans) we can't let them drag us back to the past.
But we still have some way to go, I look forward to the day when Orangemen can walk peacefully in Dublin and be welcomed by fellow Dubliners, that would be something special
@51wins This is where we differ i'm afraid ;-) .What will be great is if you from the North can come down South and no one cares and same if some one from the South can go up North without anyone paying attention.WE are a small island inhabited by a few million.People dressed up in orange or green should not matter.Now that is called improvement and we haven't even discussed politics yet.Take care
@51wins The Orange parade is about celebrating one thing and one thing only - Triumphalism. You actually expect Irish people not to be offended and that it should be accepted in the Republic?
To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if that does be accepted because what we have now is the Rainbow Republic and orange is of course included in that.
So the 4th July celebrations are triumphalism I sapose they will now be cancelled this year, along with every other nation who celebrates their freedom or past battles. You really need to think this through lol.
Listen I have Catholic friends and they have no problem with the 12th July, or me/ my friends as Orangemen. This goes for the majority of the Catholic people its only a minority who cause the trouble and make a fuss. Bigots who can't move on.
@51wins I don't see how American Independence is relevant to this issue. The 12th is about the lead up and result of the Battle of the Boyne. What has that got to do with some nation being free? The concept of Northern Ireland wasn't even in the imagination back then! No fair mind could ever understand why you enjoy marching through nationalist streets with a banner depicting the so called Glorious Revolution of a Jewish backed Dutch homosexual usurper.
Clearly you have no idea about the Williamite wars, the victory at the Boyne wasn't just any old Irish battle it was a European battle. Victory at the Boyne meant Civil and Religious Freedom not only for Britain and Ireland but many nations in Europe as well. The first UK elected democratic government was formed after the Boyne that is massive in British history and this democracy was then spread around the wider empire and world.
@51wins Oh come on, it was more of an invasion than a revolution! Does Catholicism apply to that religious freedom? The whole point was so a Catholic King and rightful heir to the throne never became King of England. If he did the Amsterdam bankers would not have been able to root themselves in London. You can thank the "Glorious Revolution" for plutocracy and debt slavery. Freedom? You don't know the meaning of the word.
How could it be an invasion when Ireland was already under British rule?
It was King James who landed in Ireland with upwards of 7,000 French troops and massed a Jacobite Army who then plundered Ireland murdering thousands 8,000 or more dead in Londonderry alone!
If it was about removing a Catholic king (which for some it was) why then did the Pope support Protestant King William?
Fact is even the Pope knew it was a much bigger ball game then religion.
It was an invasion of England because William was a usurper. He was also a dupe to Dutch financiers. So much for freedom. Anyway the story of William coming to save protestantism is a myth. It was more to do with a fight against France's King Louis XVI.
You're talking about Pope Innocent XI and he did not support William. He just wasn't pleased with King James II's support for his cousin King Louis XVI. King Louis didn't exactly have the best of relations with the Holy See.
Actually know the British parliament deposed the King and invited King William to come and Marry Princess Mary and take the throne. It was the British public who turned their back on King James and cheered in the street when King William arrived.... that's hardly an invasion lol.
The Pope's banner was carried at the Boyne to show his support. As I said it wasn't just a Irish battle but a European one with massive outcomes...a great reason to celebrate our freedom and democracy.
@51wins The Battle of the Boyne did not bring freedom or democracy. It brought about a Protestant ascendancy in Ireland of the 'established church' (Anglican). Presbyterians were then persecuted under the Penal laws alongside Catholics and many Presbyterians had to flee to the United States. Why you celebrate this victory is beyond reason.
That was the system across the world at that time, to expect anything different wouldn't have been in people's mindsets at that time. For the average person their life went on as normal however the victory brought about security for the Protestant people of Ireland after the 1641 rebellion and the Jacobite attacks security was highly valued.
Freedom of a man to choose his own faith was alot to celebrate compared to the chains of Romanism.
@51wins Religious freedom? Security for Protestants? Presbyterians were persecuted against and its people driven out of Ireland following Williams victory.
That to a large extent is untrue...driven out of the country lol Republican propaganda. I'm well aware of the differences between English Anglicanism and Scot Presbyterianism and although that divide was carried across to Ulster indeed wider Ireland it never took the same form as it did on the border on the mainland. The Williamite war in many ways United the Protestant faiths for a greater cause...even though many held misgivings after the Battle was over.
@51wins It's historical fact not propaganda, Presbyterians were persecuted for their religious beliefs under the penal laws thanks to the battle of the boyne and many driven to north America as a result; the Scots Irish. Other Presbyterians stayed and formed the United Irishmen to 'break the connection with England'.
As I said after the Boyne some Presbyterian's held their elder Scottish convictions of no monarchy over the state or church, in other words an elected government by the people for the people. Hence this message was carried to the New World in the America's and right through to the American revolution.
Not all Presbyterian were United Irishmen and certainly weren't modern day Republicans either lol far from it. Infact modern Republicans is what turned most of them from the society
Yes, and what is also interesting is William was the wrong type of heretic too - he was a Calvinist. As a matter of fact, it was King James who was fighting for religious liberty, not William. Thousands of Huguenot refugees poured into England when King James was still in power, despite the dangers this caused for James as they were anti-monarchists. Funny how after King James was deposed the Anglican Parliament laid down religious restrictions which forced the Huguenots to settle elsewhere.
@51wins I suppose that is in no small part to the Whigs devoting much money and propaganda in London to building up fear and hatred of James amongst all sections of the population. They also organised large mobs with which to control the streets. It's also worth noting the Whigs in their 'Declaration of Rights', declared that James had acted illegally in having a standing army in time of peace, yet no law existed against this. The army didn't really grow until threat of Dutch invasion in 1688.
@51wins Seven traitors invited the usurper to England. The invitation was treachery and nothing short of it. Anyway if the pope was indifferent to the defeat of King James, it was because of his friendly relationship with King Louis who was at the time planning to establish his own Church independent of the Papacy, and so the pope didn't want a repeat of Henry VIII's schism.
@51wins Incidentally, you have a flawed idea of freedom. What sort of freedom is it that let's an Oligarchy of Dutch merchants to flourish in London? What freedom did the Williamite coup achieve when the result was London becoming a stronghold for banking operations? That banking oligarchy is still there today working it's devilry and you think we have freedom?! Such are the fruits of the Protestant Deformation.
What's wrong with the Dutch? Anyway Queen Mary was British so the British line remained and it was common for royals to marry each-other therefore having to get husbands/wives from across Europe.
Banking is a separate issue one that actually done the Netherlands harm but done Britain alot of good.
Protestantism was fantastic for Europe just want it needed to get out of the Dark Ages under Rome.
@51wins A truly great answer. You have definitely won this argument!
*Insert facepalm here*
I have nothing more to say to you. Hilaire Belloc proved you heretics wrong years ago so there is no point in me continuing a tiresome effort to explain this to a lost cause like you.
P.S. the Dutch merchants were not exactly Dutch. Anybody with even a rudimentary study of the traditional banking oligarchies know what they really are.
Dark Ages under Rome?!? You people are unbelievable!
Stop trying to take the high ground and sound all high and mighty lol....when you can't win a debate you start asking like history is on your side.
The Glorious Revolution is known the world over as a defining moment in European indeed World history, as I said Europe changed as a result gone was the chains of the Dark Ages (ps you do know the Dark age was called such due to RC Church).
Roll on the 12th July :D you can sit in your house and be depressed if you want.
I fully support the reunification of IRELAND! Romanians and Irish have many things in common. The both people suffered and still suffer under the occupation of foreign empires. Let hope that one day, our countries will have their natural boundaries!
The Soviet Union under Stalin, killed hundreds of thausands of romanians from Basarabia (deported in Siberia, killed by induced famine; they killed especially the intelectualls) and brainwashed many romanians from Basarabia into believe that they are not romanians. Soviets also colonized foreign populations, the same as english colonized scottish in Ulster. Soviets used also the religion to divide people, the same used as english artificially divide irish people into protestants and catholics.
ULSTER IS IRELAND in the same way as MOLDOVA IS ROMANIA! The eastern part of the ancient romanian province of Moldova was grabbed by the russian empire in 1812, recovered in 1918 after the WW1, but lost again after the WW2 due to the soviet occupation. Today, the eastern part of Moldova (we called it, Basarabia), the so called "Republic of Moldova" is part of C.I.S. and in fact is controlled by Russia who held military troops there. There are a lot more similarities with northern Ireland.
Very educational video. Especially to someone like me not from Ireland. But you're saying that these Unionists have actually stolen everything (not just the land, or the electoral vote) but even the Irish names, flags & symbols that existed long before they even got there? I laugh when I see the term Northern Ireland as nobody takes that seriously. Ireland is Ireland in the real world. & Donegal & Derry where my ancestors came from is in Ulster, Ireland.
O fuck off we are ment to be europe but fuck that they are all skint so UP our british and fuck all you euro cunts go and fuck your selfs we are beter british you tossers look at india they are doing good and former, who taught them. do you speek english or irish when doing the LAW
one of the best vids iv seen so far on yt, it realy tells the truth about british rule in 6 counties of Ulster. even the music sounds great with this vid, fuckin bril mo chara..
Irish protestants were the brave hearts of their day by resisting at all costs Roman rule. THE POPE (Adrian 1V) DONATED IRELAND TO ENGLAND 1179, to extort taxes from every Irish household called "Peters Pence" The infallible ROMAN Pontiff, blame him.
This video is a complete load of bullshit and LIES.
We say NO SURRENDER to the Papacy. GET ROME OUT OF IRELAND, modern era, no one has abused our most vulnerable citizens, through rape and child torture like the Roman not Irish church.
and finally: as it was England - NOT BRITAIN, BUT ENGLAND - who colonized us in 1589, why do we call them effing brits? Even effing anglos is bad e nough. But we are all in Europe now so we have to learn to get on well together. for all our sakes. think about it. let'sget rid of ANGLO-phobia. It destroys is in both part of ireland. it keeps us divided, repeat:divided!! We divide ourselves, i suppose. But the border is not an Irish border, it is an ENGLISH border in IRELAND!! advertize it!!
AND, COME HERE, THERE'S MORE: The southerners think the population of "ireland" is nearly four million.l it isn't , of course, it is nearly SIX million. But how do you tell THAT to anation of thicks. When it suits Dubllin, ulster is irish, w hen it suits them, you are plastic paddies of foreignors, imagine being a foreignor in your own country????? Using a ballot instead of a bullet means we WILL have a reunited country IN MY LIFETIME. But let Belfast/derry/armagh have the Dail. Please.
ASAK AN ULSTER (9 COUNTIES) PERSON TO NAME IRELAND'S NEAREST NEIGHBOUR AND YOU WILL GET THE CORRECT ANSWER. ASK A SOUTHERNER THE SAME QUESTION AND YOUWILL GET THE WRONG ANSWER. WANNA BET? TRY IT NEXT TIME YOU ARE DOWN SOUTH. TELL THEM YOU ARE DOING A CROSSWORD AND NEED TO KNOW THE ANSWER. THIS IGNORANCE SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THE SOUTH. THE DUBLIN GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CARE A SHITE ABOUT WHO KILLS WHO INTHE NORTH. HEY WANT TO KEEP SHINN FAIN IN THE NORTH BUT OUT OF DUBLIN
I AM SURE THERE WERE PROTESTANTS WHO WERE BEATEN TO DEATH BY CATHOLICS. THIS IS CALLED "DIVIDE AND RULE". JUST GET ONE PERSON TO KILL SOOMEONE ELSE AND ENGLAND (NOT BRITAIN) CAN SIT BACK AND LAUGH AT US. BUT HOW MANY SOUTHERNERS EVEN WORRY ABOUT THE SIX COUNTIES. THEY STILL THINK DUBLIN IS THE CAPITAL OF "IRELAND" AND THEIR MIDGET PRESIDENT IS THE PREZ OF "IRELAND". DUBLIN IS THE CAPITAL CITY OF three quarters OF OUR IRELAND. LIKEWISE WITH MICHAEL D. O'MIDGET.
52% of Catholics in Northern Ireland support the union the 33% who are opposed to it are the ones you here more vehemently from. 35% Of people in the republic are agnostic to a united ireland, 10% want a untied British Ireland and 35% a united republic
what a load of dick this isnt factual in any way . its better to die on your feet than live on your knees Northern Ireland (Ulster) shall always remain British and loyal to the crown
what part of it is **** Can you point out the part of it that is not factual..Just because you and your fellow travellers want to be on your knees and surrender to the English because England runs the International Banking system and outnumbers and out guns you does not mean that the Honourable Ulster Irish people or Highland Scots will
The TRUE UlsterMen want to see Ulster returned to it natural state 9 United Counties In the Island of Ireland
And it should be duly noted that in regards to our southern states who were bullied back into the Union by the tyrant Lincoln, the people who live there today still, as a whole have much contempt for that administration and people should be aware that those even in the North hold Lincoln in a bad light and feel that those southern states should be given back to the South, but we know it will never happen. Its not about the emotionalism, its about the reality.
Well, as a Yank, I should have no stake in this argument but I'm going to side with Britain. Its painfully obvious that no matter the emotionalism surrounding it, as it stands today, Ulster is British and the quarrel should be settled; move on. There are many in our states of Georgia and TN who have ancestors who seceded in our Civil War but they aren't killing anyone over it today. Besides, we Americans are an Anglo-Saxon majority and I will always side with her majesty's kingdom. :)
The British and the British loyalists Surrendered to the the American Republican Patriots at Yorktown in 1781 this Victory was an Inspiration to the United Irishmen A Nationalist Patriot movement made up of Protestant and Catholic Irishmen...I See from your comments you are a Benedict Arnold and would have sold out your own countrymen to the British by Surrendering
@mcveigh1598 mcveigh, I'm an 18th century military history buff as well as a historical reenactor and what you said is oversimplified. The Brits, for one thing were in an ongoing war with France and Cornwallis and Clinton merely pulled out of the American front because of limited resources (they were struggling to maintain India and the West Indies). Most Brits back home supported the American cause (Whig Party). Whigs and Tories were at each others throats and Tories were losing popularity.
As an 18th century military historian you should know that the Surrender of the British and British loyalists to the US Republican Patriots was an Inspiration to the United Irishmen a Nationalist Irish movment of Catholic and Protestant Irish Patriots
The United Irishmen were fighting for Freedom and Democracy in Ireland and an end to the Tyranny and Anti Democratic Rule of the English..the English used their Waealth and the Fact that they Vastly Outnumbered and Vastly Outgunned the small Nation of Ireland
In this sense the United irismens Struggle is very Similar to the US Republican Patriots and their Republican principles to install a Free and Democratic system in their Country Free from the English Tyranny
Respond to this video... I certainly would have never gave up my countrymen. What you have to understand is the American colonists still culturally saw themselves as Anglo, which they were, and they were basically upholding the original constitution borne out of the Glorious Revolution of 1688 (English Civil War). Do you know how many English-born men fought in the Continental Army? I once heard a Welsh historian say the American Rev War was almost like a British Civil War, in some ways.
It is Clear from your posts whose side you would have defected to in the US war of Independence Benedict Arnold was also prepared to turn coat on the US Republican Patriots and Surrender to the English
What you say in your post is oversimplified many of the colonists were from other parts of Europe you seem to have forgotten the large numbers eg. Germans, Dutch, Irish and Scottish etc who also fought in the Continental Army
@mcveigh1598 No, not at all. The American Revolution was not an upheaval like the 1798 Irish Rebellion and the French Revolution, it was a continuation of the principles and values of the Glorious Revolution of 1688. The American Revolution was, in many ways like an English civil war. The colonists were not anti-English, they were anti-Tory. YOU are forgetting that the Whig Party of Great Britain supported the colonists, as did the Prince of Wales. Hello!
As you say you are an 18th Century military history buff I am sure you are aware of the Outstanding Career of Commodore John Barry... A man whose family had been driven off their land in Ireland by the English the English using the fact that they Vastly Outnumbered and Outgunned the Irish to terrorise the Irish citizens
Commodore John Barry is one of Americas Greatest Naval Heroes during the US War of Independence and
Respond to this video... Our revolution in the U.S. is nothing like what the Irish were fighting for, that's so oversimplified. The majority of the men who made up the American movement in the 18th century were Anglo Protestant men and saw themselves as seceding from what they were born out of. The same scenario took place 90 years later during the American Civil War. You'll notice the "rebel" flag is a St. Andrew's Cross, the same cross Scotland uses to this day on their national flag.
The Rebel Flag of the Confederate states is not a St andrews cross the Cross on the rebel confederate flag is known as a Saltire it is a common Heraldic and flag device
@WeeSexyTC You are relying on the Catholic population all voting for a UI.Not the case.We don't "do anything to stop it",as there is a DEMOCRATIC PEACE PROCESS,which we all agreed to.I have no doubt there may be a UI in the future,but it will not be a Catholic/Irish UI. If Ulster-Scot culture and religion is not addressed,there will never be peace.No Prod in N.I. will ever stand for ROI National Anthem,or the Tricolour.Serious changes will have to be made,or another 300yrs of unrest beckons.
(That does not make it Catholic which you are trying to imply) this is what you said to me Mr.Lamont . I am not going to go as deep as the people in the land of Ulster , or there way of there Lord. As for Ulster Lands it was never given away . But that cosine is a long story that I am shure ye must know well . An Gaelic . Fad saol agat.
On word lads ! This THE RED HAND OF ULSTER IS MY CLANS ! Ye O'Neill of my clan cut his hand off an through the bloody hand to touch land first, to win the first pick of the land in a race to shore against the O’Donnells. ! That is the red hand of the O'Neill's an ye red is O'Neill Blood Red ! " Lamh dearg Eireann Abu "
@MyUlster I don't see anyone denying that the Red hand of ULSTER is O'Neill (acc.to myth and legend).That does not make it Catholic which you are trying to imply,just Irish.You seem to believe that I'm anti-Irish or something,when i'm not.I am descended from the Lamont clan in Scotland,and the O'Neills settled and CLAIMED a part of Scotland,SETTLED AND CLAIMED THE LAND OF ARGYLL IN SCOTLAND.That is why the Red Hand is on their clan badge.Pot.kettle,black.
@strongarmofthepaw I did not refer to God in my statement ! I referred to my clan and Ulster . For theas lands are still O'Neill lands ! As for Scotland my clan married in to the lands . McShanes are me clans Scot side . An Scots are a grate people as well an I have respect for any man whom knows there clans history ! Agion there is no refer to God in any way in my statement . Pot ,Kettle,Black ! Mr. Lamont .
@MyUlster Correct,you did not mention God,but then neither did I.Pot ,kettle black Respect the Scots - Not too much respect for the Ulster Scots though ! .You state that you are of the O'N's of Ulster (Ireland) and Scotland ,but me being a Lamont protestant I would not be as welcome in IRE as the former O'Neills - Lamonts also claim descent from O'Neill.Your comments are indirectly implying that,O'N's claim the province of Ulster > Ulster is in Ireland >Ireland should be catholic and Gaelic.
On word lads ! This THE RED HAND OF ULSTER IS MY CLANS ! Ye O'Neill of my clan cut his hand off an through the bloody hand to touch land first, to win the first pick of the land in a race to shore against the O’Donnells. ! That is the red hand of the O'Neill's an ye red is O'Neill Blood Red ! " Lamh Dearg Eirinn "
@strongarmofthepaw irish sport, irish heros, nothing to do with religion, why cant you see that! if u call sam mcguire a terrorist you might as well call george washington or nelson mandela
@seanogcarey You appear to be quite intelligent,therefore read the comments in the context of which they were written.I did not bring Sam Maguire into the topic,i merely replied to a comment Mr Barry introduced concerning the 'forementioned. A sporting hero - Yes, i'll agree with that, but nothing to do with religion and not a terrorist - I don't think so! Just because(as far as i'm aware) Sam Maguire didn't lift a gun,doesn't mean he is innocent or was not complicit in terrorist murders.
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What a lot of Irish Republican bullshit.Modern Ulster consists of 6 counties,Ulster is loyal to Britain WWI ,WWII,36th ULSTER Division etc,Ulster has a protestant majority.No Surrender dates back to the Seige of Derry,The Red Hand of Ulster predates catholicism,1/3 of ulster is not run by Ireland,Republicans are enemies of Ulster.1969 who cheered the troops in Derry,Londonderry crying We've won Ulster is ours;the Irish of course.Didn't take them long to change their minds,did it!
@strongarmofthepaw 'Modern ulster' does not consist of 6 counties, the state known as 'Northern Ireland' consists of six occupied counties, this is why it is not called Ulster. Ulster does not have a protestant majority not that it matters. The red hand of ulster has fuck all to do with catholicism and is an ancient Irish symbol used by those who resisted English rule centuries ago. It has nothing to do with loyalism. Ulster is a province of Ireland.
@TomBarry192I Denial ! Didn't expect much more from you.That is why there will never be peace here.You cannot see what is in front of your eyes,everything you state is from a republican idealized viewpoint.Red Hand is not seen as a loyalist symbol ,though nationalists seem to enjoy burning them! If i walked into a catholic area with a Red Hand tattooed on my forehead,i wouldn't walk out again.Didn't say the Red Hand was catholic.Ulster is a province of an ancient Ireland,times have changed.
@TomBarry192I Being flippant does not take away the initial truth of the comment.If i walked into a catholic area wearing a t shirt with a Red Hand (which i don't own or never have} i would be shot or beaten if it is perceived as a loyalist symbol.If it is not,i should be freely able to walk anywhere freely in N.I. wearing the said t shirt,which quite simply is not the case.Mentioning cases' - I rest my case.
@TomBarry192I Of course they wouldn't as they belong to, or support, the GAA which is almost 100% catholic.The GAA is an Irish Nationalist Organization which only recently has begun to distance itself from Republicanism and Republican activities.That does not go for the supporters or fans. GAA Trophies named after IRA murderers,GAA grounds used for commemorations of dead IRA members.Not exactly non-sectarian ,is it!
The people who support the English controlled statlet of Northern Ireland are the real enemies and traitors to Ulster they are disloyal and betraying the Ulstermen of Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan
The Red hand of Ulster is part of the Irish Nationalist 4 province flags it is also worn by GAA members from Ulster.. Irish Nationalists and Republicans are proud of the Red hand of Ulster as it is a Symbol of the O Neills and Resistance to English Rule...loyalist have hijacked this symbol to represent the English controlled 6 county statlet
You are confusing the English cotrolled statlet named Northern Ireland with the Ancient Irish province of Ulster , watch the video again and take your time and try to understand. You and your supporters are an enemy of Ulster you are Disloyal and betraying the Ulstermen in Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal they are part of Ulster you support the English controlled statlet of Northern Ireland which divides Ulster
@mcveigh1598 The province of Northern Ireland with the ancient province of Ulster.Yes-ancient.Maybe we should all live in the past and grow potatoes. - No heating,no welfare state,no money,jobs etc.Don't move forward - We want things back the way they were,but we'll pick and choose as to what suits our own ends.You're Ulster is not my Ulster ,I was actually born here (N.I.,Belfast)..Your worry should be about the immigrants invading ROI now.I fear for the future if the Irish race.Seriously.
@strongarmofthepaw Why do loyalists always come on nationalist videos. You know whats a good analogy for the relationship between the two sides, loyalists are abusive husbands that get precious when their battered wives actually stand up for themselves.
@scientific198 Simple - To rectify one-sided idealistic viewpoints posted by Republicans,the same way they comment on Loyalist videos.Irish Nationalism is simply a flawed ideal of how they want Ireland to be,irrespective of other peoples' who were actually also born here.They only see the part of history they wish to see.Once there were provincial kings,but of course,that wouldn't suit the Irish as it conflicts with their ideals.The past is not our future.Ethnic cleansing of Prods may suit you.
@strongarmofthepaw No one wants ethnic cleansing of Protestants, Ireland is your country too. There are O.O marches in Donegal every year without incident. In 2011 not too many people give a fuck about religion. Its in danger of going extinct down south. As you well know yourself, many prominent republicans have been Protestant. As for bias, I'm acutely aware of it on both sides.
@scientific1982 Well! i'm glad that someone actually respects the rights of Prods to live here.As for Prod republicans - The IRA bombing campaig has totally eroded any sense of Irishness from our people.Maybe i'm being unclear - I holiday in Ireland a lot, most Irish people hate Cavan,but we absolutely love it and it's people and great fishing.I've travelled all over ROI and they are the most hospitable race on the planet.Not so Northern Ireland republicans.I think Ireland has three races now.
@strongarmofthepaw Theres a fairly well known celtic pub where I live in an area thats completely SF. A wee lad and his father came in to drink watching the football. The young lad had a chelsea top on and my mate, whos a celtic fanatic, copped on that they were rangers supporters. Later on I heard the young lad whisper to his father about rangers and his old man told him to be quiet. Neither myself nor my friends could care less if they were rangers supporters. Cont.
@scientific1982 Well said! I completely agree with you.The main problem is that we are a mongrel race.We have native Irish,Lowland Scots,Scots Highlanders with some Welsh and English thrown in.Almost e'one who was born here are a mix' of these races.I think it should be made compulsory for all people in N.I. to trace their ancestry.Most of them will be amazed by what they may find, I know i was - mixed marriages,native Scots, Irish.If SF want a New Ire,it cannot be based on a Republican agenda.
My Ulster is the Real Ulster the 9 County Ulster you are under the Illusion that the English controlled six county Statlet of Northern Ireland is Ulster . You are betraying and being Disloyal to the Ulstermen in Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan.
Irish Nationalist and Republicans are not Sectarian they are very Proud of their Protestant Irish Patriots in the United Irishmen they Celebrate people like Wolfetone. Henry Joy McCracken, William Orr etc.
@mcveigh1598 I'm under no illusions ,I am what I was born into a six county province - Ulster.Glad Irish Nationalists and Republicans aren't sectarian.Maybe the murders inflicted by the IRA (Irish REPUBLICAN Army) and the INLA (Irish NATIONAL Liberation Army) were figments of my imagination,They couldn't have bombed,shot and maimed anyone.I very much doubt Tone,McCracken etc would have joined the UI,if they'd witnessed the IRA campaign of the last 30 years.Look up the meaning of Sectarian.
You and your fellow travellers are the real enemies of Ulster. Ulster is an Ancient nine County Province of ireland not the six county English controlled statlet called Northern Ireland you and supporters have betrayed your Fellow Ulstermein in Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan. The True ulstermen are the Irish Nationalists and Republicans who want to See Ulster returned to its Natural state 9 United Counties.
@mcveigh We've betrayed no-one.We are Ulster-Scots, and we defend our own Race.Strange, Paisley sitting in Gov't and sharing power with Martin Maguinness - How sectarian of him! Boyne - Who decided to persuade Ireland to fight for an English King,who was deposed by Parliament - that would be James II. You can blame the 30 yr Provo campaign for making July 12th what it is to-day.It's no more bigoted than St.Patricks Day. .IRE/BRITISH dead.- Don't see many people wearing Poppies in ROI !
You say Ulster scots....Well Ulster is one of the four Ancient Provinces of Ireland and the Scots by origin were Gaelic speaking people from Ireland how can you say you defend your own people when England drove the Gaelic Highland Scots and the Gaelic Irish off their land most of them emigrating to America and Canada..of course England got help from the lowland scots who surrendered to England and helped England in the persecution of the true Gaelic Scots.
You say that the 12 of July is a purely Sectarian event because of a 30 year Provo campaign yet despite a 30 year loyalist terrorist campaign of bombings shooting and intimidation which killed maimed and terrorised thousands of innocent Men Women and Children in Ulster you will find that St Patricks day is not Sectarian and Nationalist and Republican marching bands celebrate Protestant Irish patriots aswell..The irish Tri Colour represents Catholic and Protestant
If you do some research I am sure you will find that loyalists are far more Sectarian than Nationalists or republicans just look at their political spokesmen like Paisley Religious Fundamentalist Extreemist backed up by a Terrorist wing just like the Taliban.
Nationalists and Republicans are very proud of their Protestant Irish Patriots and celebrate their memory. in contrast unionists and loyalist never celebrate the Catholic Soldiers who fought for King Billy and without whom he would not have won at the Boyne instead they turn the 12th of July into a purely Sectarian event . unionists and loyalist also never include the memory of the Irish 16th division of the first World war
@strongarmofthepaw A 15 yr old boy was beaten to death in my town by a loyalist gang for simply being a catholic and wearing a celtic top ,i rest my case.
The worst bit of this video is that you are from Bellaghy in Northern Ireland and you know fuck all about your own country/occupied counties/who really cares anymore. Shame on you and your stupid ideas.
Thank you so much for postng this video i was really tryng to understand this whole thing and this helped me better understand. now, i guess i can take pride in my ulster heritage?
Northern Ireland is controlled by the Northern Irish not the English, ever heard of Stormont? I don't think the Northern Irish want to swap their Capital in Belfast for a Capital that is much further away in Dublin. Republicans should except a divided island, Britain was divided for centuries in the past. The British troops that 'occupy' northern ireland are northern irish, are countries not allowed to occupy their own country?
Unionists or Nationalists, I can't decide who I should support, Nationalists because Ireland, whilst independent, is not united and it only seems right to bring the country together, then again Unionists because in 1800 they choose to unite with Britain for economic benefits under the Act of the Union and for religious gain, due to the fact they were predominantly protestant as was the majority of the British public at the time. What a mess.
@PhilAFire93,well you hit the nail,we should be united for the simple reason that this is Ireland.We know from history it's the right thing to do.What I can't understand is how can unionists,who can look at two sides of an argument and make a fair decision,not simply see from history that they have no right to keeping this island divided.
FUCKING HATE IRISH AMERICANS A BUNCH OF INBRED RETARDED BASTARDS I,D LOVE TO BATTER THE LOT OF THEM,WHY DON,T YOU FIGHT FOR THE LOST CAUSE IN IRELAND?NO I DID,NT THINK SO! WANKERS
@salian66 err, salian66, i think you should do your research. Irish Americans support us both politically and Financially lol they're a good support to the IRAs Arms and Explosives. Not only Irish Americans support the Irish but the rest of the world, the french, germans, russians, south americans, even some british have! lol! i would like to thank the ppl of all nationalities who support the IRA or a United Ireland. I love Americans :)
The British and British loyalists Surrendered to the Brave American Republican Patriots at YorkTown in 1781, Irish men both Protestant and Catholic fought with the American Patriots The victory was a Great Inspiration for the United Irishmen an Irish Nationalist Movement of Protestant and Catholic Irish Patriots in Ireland aswell
Ulster is an Ancient 9 County Province of Ireland Not the 6 County English controlled Statlet called Northern Ireland. The True Ulstermen who Love Ulster want Ulster returned to its Natural State 9 United counties the enemies of ulster are those people who want Ulster kept divided by the English.
Have You watched the video ?.......Watch it again and take your time
If we forget nationalism and states folr a minute,Northern Ireland remains geographically part of Ireland. We can't say that it remains part of the UK, as the UK is a political invention of the eighteenth century and rise of european transcontinental imperialism. Internationalists and anti nationalists can unite behind Ulster being Irish, but not behind it being in the UK.
@elamite66 How many people make the effort when it comes to tv? Why do you think programmes such as the X factor and Big brother were so popular? Lethargy and passive viewing are the allies of state educational influence on the maqsses. When I was growing up, I didnt have the remote control and BBC1 and ITV were the main sources of world facts.
@channelhoplite The Daily Record is reknowned for reporting whatever the PM said on foreign polcy 24 hours after the event and giving its backing. Why else would media moghuls invest so much if they had no personal interests and understanding of group psychology?
there is truth in what you say however you yourself are a victim of Nationalsit propoganda everybody is influenced by their situation and their relatives and communities
@elamite66 Its not really a fair comparison, seeing as I havent had to live under military occupation. oYu might as well say that all South africans were victims of aparteid. This is true only in a very narrow sense of victimhood. I would concur that all Northern Irelanders are victims of historical interventionism, but the daily lives of UK mainlanders are not really comparable. For the most part, they block northern Ireland from their thinking. That can't be said for Northern Irelanders.
mayb in the long run you'll turn out to be right but I have my doubts I think many Republicans view Loyalists has having no real sense of nationalism but just a fear of being in a Catholic majority and also many believe that the British government is still using Loyalist fears while there was some truth to this in centuries past today the British government will not openly admit this but many of its members will welcome being able to allow N.I. to vote itself into the Republic
@elamite66 The British govt at present relies on the slim majority offered in part by the Northern Ireland unionists. Theyd be voting their Con-Dem coalition out of existence. This has probably got a historical role in why the Tories in particular have pushed the patriotic Uk card in Northern Ireland. It gets them votes.
Ireland was part of the UK and forgetting the past for two minutes it had more in common with France occupying a strip of Flanders, or the Basque territories, or France annexing Nice Savoy and Corsica as the price for backing a united Italy but by World War 1 they were French provinces or Brittany in France rather the the assault on Belgium that was the cause of the UK declaring war the repressive measures of the past were gone with the land settlement dissestablishment of the C of I etc.
@elamite66 Northern Ireland has never been viewed positively by a London government and "Ulster nationalism" is one result of anti Republican Northwern irelanders' dissatisfaction with their own placein UK history. Perhaps an Ulster within a federal Ireland will in the end be the result of British imperialism and religious tension being hstoriclly exploited..
@elamite66 Prejudice and gerrymandering continue to have repercussions in regards to the chances of soilidarity between people who otherwise would be natural allies, and a sense of being ulsterian is in the end, more genuine historically and inclusive of all Northern irelanders than a sense of being part of the UK. In the Uk, there is the reliance on the mantra of a "small island". well Ulster has never been part of that island, however we measure its dimensions.
this video is largely factual while it does have a certain Republican slant N.I. has existed for almost 100 years and that alone gives it a certain amount of credibility but I know that the two sides are for the most part at the extreme leaving little middle ground I can understand the Nationalist view and I can understand the Unionist view but I have to admit the Nationalist will almost certainly win out in the end Also while I view the IRA as terrorists the UFF,UDA and modern UVFare even worse
yes it is true most protestants are squeezed like sardines @ Antrim and Down... why,,, history and facts show how prods have been intimidated by republican and nationalists. One thing you republican and nationalists are good at is twisting history and telling porky pies to the world to fund your IRA, INLA and other bigoted and sectarian organisations,One question, if a united Ireland came about tomorrow, would unionist beliefs & traditions be respected? (considering they're not at present!)
@kalimcc100 I have posed a question but never recieved an answer, if in 1912 when the Biritish government ordered the troops at the Curragh to head north and break up the UVF gunrunning many officers threatened to resign their commisions rather than follow orders, the Cabined backed down with the notable exception of 1st Lord of the Adm. WS Churchill I think many officers were bluffing and if others weren't they should have takend their resignations The cabinet shouldn't ave caved part 1
@kalimcc100 Part 2 If the cabinet had not caved would Easter Monday 1916 have been inevitable anyway? and the guerrilla war that followed, or would the implmentation of Home Rule with a parliament in Dublin for the 32 counties and MPs in Westminster also have been acceptable to anybody? The long line of valid compalints against the British Govt. were already in the past, RC Emancipation, The Gaelic League in the open, the dissestablishment of the C of I, the land in the hand fo the people etc.
@kalimcc100 Part 3 the Republicans were bent on violent uprising Ostensibly the major single reason for the rising in Easter 1916 was the passing of a conscription law for the whole UK but in fact it was never extended to Ireland and conscription was never implyed in NI in World War 2 either, the court martials and executions of the uprising,s leaders was hardly to be debated about at the time after all the IRA was in collusion with Germany while World War 1 raged
@elamite66 What was the difference between Germany occupying countries during world war 1 and Britain occupying Ireland? Ireland had to fight for its own Independece. No other country aided us in war since France in the 1798 rebellion.
@TomBarry192I Part 2 Catholic emancipation was complete the Gaelic League operated in the open as did the Gaelic Athletic Association or Arthur Griffith's Sein Fein However we all know that there was a signigant group who wanted an independent Republic and hatred and resented England for past wrongs both fact and propoganda but there was enough fact This virtual equity in the UK allowed the Irish to organize and of course the Ulster Loyalists were also keeping things boiling so VIOLENCE
@kalimcc100 Part 4 Do you think there woudl have been any chance of peace if the Home Rule Bill had been implemented with a 32 county parliament in Dublin and MPs in Westminster or was Easter Monday 1916 inevitable?
When Edward Carson fought for a Northern Ireland, it was to protect the protestant people from the suffering that would have could from a Home rule/Rome rule situation, and trust me 3 counties were not surrendered to keep unionist a majority, they were surrendered by the British government as a bid for peace, Unionist and Carson wanted 9 counties, not 6!
@kalimcc100 Carson never lifted a finger for 'Northern Ireland'. He campaigned against the partition of Ireland, he didn't even want the 6 county state created. Unionists asked him to be the first PM and he turned it down. The Ulster Unionist Council chose to surrender three Ulster counties in May 1920. Why don't your learn your own history instead of twisting it? Watch my video 'Englishman's Betrayal?' and educate yourself.
@TomBarry192I I've seen 'Englishman's Betrayal" and I have educated myself, the reason the three counties were surrendered was that a nine county Ulster would have only about a 55% unionist majority buy a six county state had about a 65% majority which was much more workable Carson would have liked to have seen Home Rule defeated completely and all Ireland remain in the union without Home Rule As this was not possible Carson favored the six county state, He and James Craig were the main movers
you should be banned from posting on this sight... you're a liar! and a thief of history.. telling the world lies for your own belief's. Learn your history and stop listen to pub stories or wee stories your granda told ya..!
maybe you have a point there but if there is a 32 County Ireland they can still shuffle back and forth, since the UK has allowed Irish citizens to enter the UK without a passport and since both are now in the EU the border makes little practical difference so it's going to depend on nationalism or unionism and the Union has never been very popular with the Catholic population I won't live long enough to see but maybe you will I hope whatever happens Ireland will have peace and prosperity PEACE
@elamite66 fair enough comments... at the end of the day.. we all want peace.. and catholic or protestant, whatever should show respect for each others traditions and all stop living in the past, fair enough.. however.. how can anyone be expected to overlook and walk away from liars and people hell bend on not only continual bringing up the past but twisting it at the same time... the same old story, poor hard done by republicans, bla bla, protestants are in ulster & here to stay, live with it!
@kalimcc100 WISE UP!!!! I DONT NEED TO I AM SCOTTISH AND HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THE TERRIBLE ATTROCITIES THAT ULSTER HAS ENDURED IN MY LIFE TIME {MY INDEPENDENT NATION WAS ONCE INVADED BY THEM EARLIER THAN THAN THE 32} MY NATION HAS BEEN DICTATED TO BY THE EMPIRE FOR WHAT SEEMS AN ETERNITY THEREFOR THE ALL KNOWING PEOPLE TELL US STOP LOOKING BACK JUST LOOK FORWARD TO MORE BECAUSE THATS THE WAY IT IS ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN KNOWS HUMAN NATURE WILL ALWAYS REBEL AGAINST WRONG DOINGS
@kalimcc100 JUST ANOTHER SMALL COMPERISON "I BREAK INTO YOUR HOME" MOVE ALL MY PALS IN THEN BEFORE THE RIGHT AND PROPER REMOVAL OF ME I DEMAND A VOTE IN THE HOUSE OF ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY I THINK YOU WILL FIND ULSTER `FOLLOWED A SIMILIAR ROUTE BACKED BY A CORRUPT GREEDY NATION OF THIEVES A CUKOO BORN IN A STARLINGS NEST REMAINS A CUKOO YES SOME ULSTER PEOPLE ARE BRITTISH AND SHOULD BE PROUD BUT THIER IN SOMEONE ELSES COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEACE SOON?
@TheSpiritof45 a cukoo born in a starlings nest is still a cukoo... thats very poetic, however we're talking about human beings... over 400 years of generations worth, most from Scotland . Then lets go back further @ 5th century, migration of Irish celts to Britain..mainly Scotland..now @ 17th (1600's) Presbyterians from Scotland migrated to Ireland settle @ Co.Antrim & Co.Down... so in theory.. all ya have is cukoo's being born and their neighboring cukoo's nest..
@TomBarry192I NAHH tom... nearly there... not just yet, but no matter how cukoo, even the world seems... the past is the past... peace in NI is fragile and i'm not the tosser posting untrue and twist versions of history on youtube... just to keep untrue history afloat and encourage republican scum (CIRA, REAL IRA, 32 Movement etc etc) to try their best to destroy what little peace and respect good catholic and protestants people have for each other. SHAME ON YOU!
@TomBarry192I I don't see anything wrong with bringing up religion, I have catholic friends, and work with many people from others religions, hows it sectarian talking about religion? lol U knob, you only see it as sectarian because of you own narrow minded, inward looking views. The issue here is you twisting history, telling lies and in doing so flues the old fire of bitterness within both communities. I don't have a problems with catholics! but, republican liars, I have a big problem with!
@TheSpiritof45 2nd...you're basically saying me (protestant) don't belong here in Northern Ireland. Mate, countries chg over the years, (USSR, USA, etc etc) so yes, wise up! dry your eyes, do you say the say about Americans? Irish Americans, who most I might add are of protestant faith, should they all pack up and move back to ulster where their seeds are from?...(1650-1800 migrations
send this video to TUV and Gregory Campbell of DUP
skipgr 19 hours ago
Northern Ireland was created with the support and permission of the Irish government elected by the Irish people and supported by the majority of Ireland even after it was agreed.
This agreement is known as the Anglo-Irish Treaty when Ireland agreed that Northern Ireland where the majority of people are British can remain part of the United Kingdom under British rule.
It is undemocratic and against International law to then go against that agreement unless the people of NI wish for it.
51wins 2 weeks ago
@51wins That wish should be for everybody on the whole island of Ireland and not just for the people in the British-constructed state of Northern Ireland. In 1918 the Irish people voted for the removal of foreign British power from the whole island of Ireland yet the north east was still severed, and you have the nerve to talk about democracy?
Northbound89 1 week ago
this vid, speaks the truth about ireland,, its will make people understand what realy happened, and how the land was stolen by the brits and the planters, the loyalist scum,TAL
afroboyify 2 weeks ago
@afroboyify Lol, afro the English and Scots have ruled the island of Ireland for nearly 1000 years! We've more right to be there than some ex pat plastic paddy pretending to live in Boston!
TheBritishUnionist 2 weeks ago
@TheBritishUnionist well what would you know mike, your family had to leave ireland because they were spys for the british,btw mike i dont see anything about the welsh in your comment, to you there not brits lol ps never come back, your not wanted hehehe
afroboyify 2 weeks ago
@afroboyify Has there ever been much of a Welsh presence in Ireland in the way their has been English & Scots? Some of my ancestors had to leave southern Ireland due to their religion. Apparently there were some bigots who didn't like any christians who weren't ruled by Rome!
TheBritishUnionist 2 weeks ago
@TheBritishUnionist
Yep some Welsh naturally moved to Ireland but the move was mostly promoted to Northern English and Southern Scots. To be honest I think the King at the time was glad to get rid of them lol.
My family also had to leave Southern Ireland due to Roman Catholic/IRA bigots who burnt their home and ordered them to leave. and yet these are the people today who talk of respect !
The attacks still continue in certain places yet the media rarely reports it.
51wins 2 weeks ago
@51wins "The attacks still continue in certain places yet the media rarely reports it"
Can you give me some examples that have happened like the one above in the last say 30 years in Southern Ireland.Thanks in advance
1984ioc 1 week ago
@1984ioc
Was actually talking about Northern Ireland and the attacks still happening not Southern Ireland. Although! at times Orange Halls, Churches, Church Halls or Protestants cars homes etc have their windows smashed etc in the Republic. Every now and then Orange or Churches are attacked.
51wins 1 week ago
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@51wins"Although! at times.........." Don't mean to be annoying you but have you any proof at all to these claims.My parents told me about Prod homes (mostly beautiful houses/mansions) being destroyed during the last century and how Prods were forced out in some areas.
Mate not sure where u live today but 99.999999% of people in the South have more productive things to be doing then getting involved directly in the Northern issue.Time is the only solution however long that may take.
1984ioc 1 week ago
@51wins Sorry to hear about your parents ordeal but while it's probably impossible for you to fathom alot of people back then had strong emotions on a religous scale.
I would have thought that nowadays that us irish would be better off burning down our own churches ;-) Hope i'm not going to hell for that comment :D but appearently i will.
What i'm saying is that things have improved here so much that anyone can live here in peace.Religion has taken a back seat,thank god and pardon the pun.
1984ioc 1 week ago
@1984ioc
A minority on both sides sadly over the years have pulled people into conflict with each-other. Today in Northern Ireland like it was across Ireland years ago both faiths get on well together.
A minority still out there wants to continue fighting (Dissident Republicans) we can't let them drag us back to the past.
But we still have some way to go, I look forward to the day when Orangemen can walk peacefully in Dublin and be welcomed by fellow Dubliners, that would be something special
51wins 1 week ago
@51wins This is where we differ i'm afraid ;-) .What will be great is if you from the North can come down South and no one cares and same if some one from the South can go up North without anyone paying attention.WE are a small island inhabited by a few million.People dressed up in orange or green should not matter.Now that is called improvement and we haven't even discussed politics yet.Take care
1984ioc 1 week ago
@51wins The Orange parade is about celebrating one thing and one thing only - Triumphalism. You actually expect Irish people not to be offended and that it should be accepted in the Republic?
To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if that does be accepted because what we have now is the Rainbow Republic and orange is of course included in that.
Northbound89 1 week ago
@Northbound89
So the 4th July celebrations are triumphalism I sapose they will now be cancelled this year, along with every other nation who celebrates their freedom or past battles. You really need to think this through lol.
Listen I have Catholic friends and they have no problem with the 12th July, or me/ my friends as Orangemen. This goes for the majority of the Catholic people its only a minority who cause the trouble and make a fuss. Bigots who can't move on.
51wins 1 week ago
@51wins I don't see how American Independence is relevant to this issue. The 12th is about the lead up and result of the Battle of the Boyne. What has that got to do with some nation being free? The concept of Northern Ireland wasn't even in the imagination back then! No fair mind could ever understand why you enjoy marching through nationalist streets with a banner depicting the so called Glorious Revolution of a Jewish backed Dutch homosexual usurper.
Northbound89 1 week ago
@Northbound89
Clearly you have no idea about the Williamite wars, the victory at the Boyne wasn't just any old Irish battle it was a European battle. Victory at the Boyne meant Civil and Religious Freedom not only for Britain and Ireland but many nations in Europe as well. The first UK elected democratic government was formed after the Boyne that is massive in British history and this democracy was then spread around the wider empire and world.
That is why its called the Glorious Revolution.
51wins 1 week ago
@51wins Oh come on, it was more of an invasion than a revolution! Does Catholicism apply to that religious freedom? The whole point was so a Catholic King and rightful heir to the throne never became King of England. If he did the Amsterdam bankers would not have been able to root themselves in London. You can thank the "Glorious Revolution" for plutocracy and debt slavery. Freedom? You don't know the meaning of the word.
Northbound89 1 week ago
@Northbound89
How could it be an invasion when Ireland was already under British rule?
It was King James who landed in Ireland with upwards of 7,000 French troops and massed a Jacobite Army who then plundered Ireland murdering thousands 8,000 or more dead in Londonderry alone!
If it was about removing a Catholic king (which for some it was) why then did the Pope support Protestant King William?
Fact is even the Pope knew it was a much bigger ball game then religion.
51wins 1 week ago
It was an invasion of England because William was a usurper. He was also a dupe to Dutch financiers. So much for freedom. Anyway the story of William coming to save protestantism is a myth. It was more to do with a fight against France's King Louis XVI.
You're talking about Pope Innocent XI and he did not support William. He just wasn't pleased with King James II's support for his cousin King Louis XVI. King Louis didn't exactly have the best of relations with the Holy See.
Northbound89 1 week ago
@Northbound89
Actually know the British parliament deposed the King and invited King William to come and Marry Princess Mary and take the throne. It was the British public who turned their back on King James and cheered in the street when King William arrived.... that's hardly an invasion lol.
The Pope's banner was carried at the Boyne to show his support. As I said it wasn't just a Irish battle but a European one with massive outcomes...a great reason to celebrate our freedom and democracy.
51wins 1 week ago
@51wins The Battle of the Boyne did not bring freedom or democracy. It brought about a Protestant ascendancy in Ireland of the 'established church' (Anglican). Presbyterians were then persecuted under the Penal laws alongside Catholics and many Presbyterians had to flee to the United States. Why you celebrate this victory is beyond reason.
TomBarry192I 1 week ago
@TomBarry192I
That was the system across the world at that time, to expect anything different wouldn't have been in people's mindsets at that time. For the average person their life went on as normal however the victory brought about security for the Protestant people of Ireland after the 1641 rebellion and the Jacobite attacks security was highly valued.
Freedom of a man to choose his own faith was alot to celebrate compared to the chains of Romanism.
51wins 1 week ago
@51wins Religious freedom? Security for Protestants? Presbyterians were persecuted against and its people driven out of Ireland following Williams victory.
TomBarry192I 1 week ago
@TomBarry192I
That to a large extent is untrue...driven out of the country lol Republican propaganda. I'm well aware of the differences between English Anglicanism and Scot Presbyterianism and although that divide was carried across to Ulster indeed wider Ireland it never took the same form as it did on the border on the mainland. The Williamite war in many ways United the Protestant faiths for a greater cause...even though many held misgivings after the Battle was over.
51wins 1 week ago
@51wins It's historical fact not propaganda, Presbyterians were persecuted for their religious beliefs under the penal laws thanks to the battle of the boyne and many driven to north America as a result; the Scots Irish. Other Presbyterians stayed and formed the United Irishmen to 'break the connection with England'.
TomBarry192I 1 week ago
@TomBarry192I
As I said after the Boyne some Presbyterian's held their elder Scottish convictions of no monarchy over the state or church, in other words an elected government by the people for the people. Hence this message was carried to the New World in the America's and right through to the American revolution.
Not all Presbyterian were United Irishmen and certainly weren't modern day Republicans either lol far from it. Infact modern Republicans is what turned most of them from the society
51wins 1 week ago
Yes, and what is also interesting is William was the wrong type of heretic too - he was a Calvinist. As a matter of fact, it was King James who was fighting for religious liberty, not William. Thousands of Huguenot refugees poured into England when King James was still in power, despite the dangers this caused for James as they were anti-monarchists. Funny how after King James was deposed the Anglican Parliament laid down religious restrictions which forced the Huguenots to settle elsewhere.
Northbound89 1 week ago
@51wins I suppose that is in no small part to the Whigs devoting much money and propaganda in London to building up fear and hatred of James amongst all sections of the population. They also organised large mobs with which to control the streets. It's also worth noting the Whigs in their 'Declaration of Rights', declared that James had acted illegally in having a standing army in time of peace, yet no law existed against this. The army didn't really grow until threat of Dutch invasion in 1688.
Northbound89 1 week ago
@51wins Seven traitors invited the usurper to England. The invitation was treachery and nothing short of it. Anyway if the pope was indifferent to the defeat of King James, it was because of his friendly relationship with King Louis who was at the time planning to establish his own Church independent of the Papacy, and so the pope didn't want a repeat of Henry VIII's schism.
Northbound89 1 week ago
@51wins Incidentally, you have a flawed idea of freedom. What sort of freedom is it that let's an Oligarchy of Dutch merchants to flourish in London? What freedom did the Williamite coup achieve when the result was London becoming a stronghold for banking operations? That banking oligarchy is still there today working it's devilry and you think we have freedom?! Such are the fruits of the Protestant Deformation.
Northbound89 1 week ago
@Northbound89
What's wrong with the Dutch? Anyway Queen Mary was British so the British line remained and it was common for royals to marry each-other therefore having to get husbands/wives from across Europe.
Banking is a separate issue one that actually done the Netherlands harm but done Britain alot of good.
Protestantism was fantastic for Europe just want it needed to get out of the Dark Ages under Rome.
51wins 1 week ago
@51wins A truly great answer. You have definitely won this argument!
*Insert facepalm here*
I have nothing more to say to you. Hilaire Belloc proved you heretics wrong years ago so there is no point in me continuing a tiresome effort to explain this to a lost cause like you.
P.S. the Dutch merchants were not exactly Dutch. Anybody with even a rudimentary study of the traditional banking oligarchies know what they really are.
Dark Ages under Rome?!? You people are unbelievable!
Northbound89 1 week ago
@Northbound89
Stop trying to take the high ground and sound all high and mighty lol....when you can't win a debate you start asking like history is on your side.
The Glorious Revolution is known the world over as a defining moment in European indeed World history, as I said Europe changed as a result gone was the chains of the Dark Ages (ps you do know the Dark age was called such due to RC Church).
Roll on the 12th July :D you can sit in your house and be depressed if you want.
51wins 1 week ago
I fully support the reunification of IRELAND! Romanians and Irish have many things in common. The both people suffered and still suffer under the occupation of foreign empires. Let hope that one day, our countries will have their natural boundaries!
TIOCFAIDH AR LA! VA VENI ZIUA NOASTRA!
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The Soviet Union under Stalin, killed hundreds of thausands of romanians from Basarabia (deported in Siberia, killed by induced famine; they killed especially the intelectualls) and brainwashed many romanians from Basarabia into believe that they are not romanians. Soviets also colonized foreign populations, the same as english colonized scottish in Ulster. Soviets used also the religion to divide people, the same used as english artificially divide irish people into protestants and catholics.
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ULSTER IS IRELAND in the same way as MOLDOVA IS ROMANIA! The eastern part of the ancient romanian province of Moldova was grabbed by the russian empire in 1812, recovered in 1918 after the WW1, but lost again after the WW2 due to the soviet occupation. Today, the eastern part of Moldova (we called it, Basarabia), the so called "Republic of Moldova" is part of C.I.S. and in fact is controlled by Russia who held military troops there. There are a lot more similarities with northern Ireland.
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Very educational video. Especially to someone like me not from Ireland. But you're saying that these Unionists have actually stolen everything (not just the land, or the electoral vote) but even the Irish names, flags & symbols that existed long before they even got there? I laugh when I see the term Northern Ireland as nobody takes that seriously. Ireland is Ireland in the real world. & Donegal & Derry where my ancestors came from is in Ulster, Ireland.
angels77100 1 month ago 3
@angels77100
yes they try to steal every thing theyre scum
ryansloan14 2 weeks ago
Sorry `speak` american english !!! color
geoffwhite100 1 month ago
O fuck off we are ment to be europe but fuck that they are all skint so UP our british and fuck all you euro cunts go and fuck your selfs we are beter british you tossers look at india they are doing good and former, who taught them. do you speek english or irish when doing the LAW
geoffwhite100 1 month ago
About time someone put the truth about Ulster on Youtube. There is far too much orange/Brit fascist propaganda around.
MrPete225 1 month ago
Nice unbiased video.
whitbyjet65 1 month ago
Nuair a bhios ag dul o mBaile Atha Cliath nior thu me faoi ndeara aon fogra ag an teorann,agus bhi an time againn sa thuaiscirt comh maith.
BAC1954 2 months ago
The province of ulster has 9 counties the other 3 being Donegal,monaghan,and Cavan,just saying for those of you who don't know lol
navrats 2 months ago
one of the best vids iv seen so far on yt, it realy tells the truth about british rule in 6 counties of Ulster. even the music sounds great with this vid, fuckin bril mo chara..
afroboyify 2 months ago
Irish protestants were the brave hearts of their day by resisting at all costs Roman rule. THE POPE (Adrian 1V) DONATED IRELAND TO ENGLAND 1179, to extort taxes from every Irish household called "Peters Pence" The infallible ROMAN Pontiff, blame him.
runevidgeek3 2 months ago
This video is a complete load of bullshit and LIES.
We say NO SURRENDER to the Papacy. GET ROME OUT OF IRELAND, modern era, no one has abused our most vulnerable citizens, through rape and child torture like the Roman not Irish church.
runevidgeek3 2 months ago
and finally: as it was England - NOT BRITAIN, BUT ENGLAND - who colonized us in 1589, why do we call them effing brits? Even effing anglos is bad e nough. But we are all in Europe now so we have to learn to get on well together. for all our sakes. think about it. let'sget rid of ANGLO-phobia. It destroys is in both part of ireland. it keeps us divided, repeat:divided!! We divide ourselves, i suppose. But the border is not an Irish border, it is an ENGLISH border in IRELAND!! advertize it!!
squirell1952 2 months ago
AND, COME HERE, THERE'S MORE: The southerners think the population of "ireland" is nearly four million.l it isn't , of course, it is nearly SIX million. But how do you tell THAT to anation of thicks. When it suits Dubllin, ulster is irish, w hen it suits them, you are plastic paddies of foreignors, imagine being a foreignor in your own country????? Using a ballot instead of a bullet means we WILL have a reunited country IN MY LIFETIME. But let Belfast/derry/armagh have the Dail. Please.
squirell1952 2 months ago
ASAK AN ULSTER (9 COUNTIES) PERSON TO NAME IRELAND'S NEAREST NEIGHBOUR AND YOU WILL GET THE CORRECT ANSWER. ASK A SOUTHERNER THE SAME QUESTION AND YOUWILL GET THE WRONG ANSWER. WANNA BET? TRY IT NEXT TIME YOU ARE DOWN SOUTH. TELL THEM YOU ARE DOING A CROSSWORD AND NEED TO KNOW THE ANSWER. THIS IGNORANCE SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THE SOUTH. THE DUBLIN GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CARE A SHITE ABOUT WHO KILLS WHO INTHE NORTH. HEY WANT TO KEEP SHINN FAIN IN THE NORTH BUT OUT OF DUBLIN
squirell1952 2 months ago
I AM SURE THERE WERE PROTESTANTS WHO WERE BEATEN TO DEATH BY CATHOLICS. THIS IS CALLED "DIVIDE AND RULE". JUST GET ONE PERSON TO KILL SOOMEONE ELSE AND ENGLAND (NOT BRITAIN) CAN SIT BACK AND LAUGH AT US. BUT HOW MANY SOUTHERNERS EVEN WORRY ABOUT THE SIX COUNTIES. THEY STILL THINK DUBLIN IS THE CAPITAL OF "IRELAND" AND THEIR MIDGET PRESIDENT IS THE PREZ OF "IRELAND". DUBLIN IS THE CAPITAL CITY OF three quarters OF OUR IRELAND. LIKEWISE WITH MICHAEL D. O'MIDGET.
squirell1952 2 months ago
good to see you have the knowledge to know ulster has 9 counties thumbs up :)
navrats 2 months ago
are the scots irish mostly nationalist or loyalist
lookatmepleasesir 2 months ago
52% of Catholics in Northern Ireland support the union the 33% who are opposed to it are the ones you here more vehemently from. 35% Of people in the republic are agnostic to a united ireland, 10% want a untied British Ireland and 35% a united republic
CyberfoxAndy 2 months ago
what a load of dick this isnt factual in any way . its better to die on your feet than live on your knees Northern Ireland (Ulster) shall always remain British and loyal to the crown
broxie9 3 months ago
@broxie9
what part of it is **** Can you point out the part of it that is not factual..Just because you and your fellow travellers want to be on your knees and surrender to the English because England runs the International Banking system and outnumbers and out guns you does not mean that the Honourable Ulster Irish people or Highland Scots will
The TRUE UlsterMen want to see Ulster returned to it natural state 9 United Counties In the Island of Ireland
mcveigh1598 3 months ago
Great Post Tom Barry
Lets See Ulster returned to its Natural State 9 United Counties
Lamh Dearg Eirin Abu
mcveigh1598 4 months ago
And it should be duly noted that in regards to our southern states who were bullied back into the Union by the tyrant Lincoln, the people who live there today still, as a whole have much contempt for that administration and people should be aware that those even in the North hold Lincoln in a bad light and feel that those southern states should be given back to the South, but we know it will never happen. Its not about the emotionalism, its about the reality.
paddy123ization 4 months ago
Well, as a Yank, I should have no stake in this argument but I'm going to side with Britain. Its painfully obvious that no matter the emotionalism surrounding it, as it stands today, Ulster is British and the quarrel should be settled; move on. There are many in our states of Georgia and TN who have ancestors who seceded in our Civil War but they aren't killing anyone over it today. Besides, we Americans are an Anglo-Saxon majority and I will always side with her majesty's kingdom. :)
paddy123ization 4 months ago
@paddy123ization
The British and the British loyalists Surrendered to the the American Republican Patriots at Yorktown in 1781 this Victory was an Inspiration to the United Irishmen A Nationalist Patriot movement made up of Protestant and Catholic Irishmen...I See from your comments you are a Benedict Arnold and would have sold out your own countrymen to the British by Surrendering
mcveigh1598 4 months ago
@mcveigh1598 mcveigh, I'm an 18th century military history buff as well as a historical reenactor and what you said is oversimplified. The Brits, for one thing were in an ongoing war with France and Cornwallis and Clinton merely pulled out of the American front because of limited resources (they were struggling to maintain India and the West Indies). Most Brits back home supported the American cause (Whig Party). Whigs and Tories were at each others throats and Tories were losing popularity.
paddy123ization 4 months ago
@paddy123ization
As an 18th century military historian you should know that the Surrender of the British and British loyalists to the US Republican Patriots was an Inspiration to the United Irishmen a Nationalist Irish movment of Catholic and Protestant Irish Patriots
mcveigh1598 3 months ago
@paddy123ization
The United Irishmen were fighting for Freedom and Democracy in Ireland and an end to the Tyranny and Anti Democratic Rule of the English..the English used their Waealth and the Fact that they Vastly Outnumbered and Vastly Outgunned the small Nation of Ireland
In this sense the United irismens Struggle is very Similar to the US Republican Patriots and their Republican principles to install a Free and Democratic system in their Country Free from the English Tyranny
mcveigh1598 3 months ago
Respond to this video... I certainly would have never gave up my countrymen. What you have to understand is the American colonists still culturally saw themselves as Anglo, which they were, and they were basically upholding the original constitution borne out of the Glorious Revolution of 1688 (English Civil War). Do you know how many English-born men fought in the Continental Army? I once heard a Welsh historian say the American Rev War was almost like a British Civil War, in some ways.
paddy123ization 4 months ago
@paddy123ization
It is Clear from your posts whose side you would have defected to in the US war of Independence Benedict Arnold was also prepared to turn coat on the US Republican Patriots and Surrender to the English
What you say in your post is oversimplified many of the colonists were from other parts of Europe you seem to have forgotten the large numbers eg. Germans, Dutch, Irish and Scottish etc who also fought in the Continental Army
mcveigh1598 3 months ago
@mcveigh1598 No, not at all. The American Revolution was not an upheaval like the 1798 Irish Rebellion and the French Revolution, it was a continuation of the principles and values of the Glorious Revolution of 1688. The American Revolution was, in many ways like an English civil war. The colonists were not anti-English, they were anti-Tory. YOU are forgetting that the Whig Party of Great Britain supported the colonists, as did the Prince of Wales. Hello!
paddy123ization 3 months ago
@paddy123ization
As you say you are an 18th Century military history buff I am sure you are aware of the Outstanding Career of Commodore John Barry... A man whose family had been driven off their land in Ireland by the English the English using the fact that they Vastly Outnumbered and Outgunned the Irish to terrorise the Irish citizens
Commodore John Barry is one of Americas Greatest Naval Heroes during the US War of Independence and
mcveigh1598 3 months ago
Respond to this video... Our revolution in the U.S. is nothing like what the Irish were fighting for, that's so oversimplified. The majority of the men who made up the American movement in the 18th century were Anglo Protestant men and saw themselves as seceding from what they were born out of. The same scenario took place 90 years later during the American Civil War. You'll notice the "rebel" flag is a St. Andrew's Cross, the same cross Scotland uses to this day on their national flag.
paddy123ization 4 months ago
@paddy123ization
The Rebel Flag of the Confederate states is not a St andrews cross the Cross on the rebel confederate flag is known as a Saltire it is a common Heraldic and flag device
mcveigh1598 3 months ago
@WeeSexyTC You are relying on the Catholic population all voting for a UI.Not the case.We don't "do anything to stop it",as there is a DEMOCRATIC PEACE PROCESS,which we all agreed to.I have no doubt there may be a UI in the future,but it will not be a Catholic/Irish UI. If Ulster-Scot culture and religion is not addressed,there will never be peace.No Prod in N.I. will ever stand for ROI National Anthem,or the Tricolour.Serious changes will have to be made,or another 300yrs of unrest beckons.
strongarmofthepaw 5 months ago
(That does not make it Catholic which you are trying to imply) this is what you said to me Mr.Lamont . I am not going to go as deep as the people in the land of Ulster , or there way of there Lord. As for Ulster Lands it was never given away . But that cosine is a long story that I am shure ye must know well . An Gaelic . Fad saol agat.
MyUlster 6 months ago
Long live Northern Ireland and long live British Unionism!
StatusRed19 6 months ago
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On word lads ! This THE RED HAND OF ULSTER IS MY CLANS ! Ye O'Neill of my clan cut his hand off an through the bloody hand to touch land first, to win the first pick of the land in a race to shore against the O’Donnells. ! That is the red hand of the O'Neill's an ye red is O'Neill Blood Red ! " Lamh dearg Eireann Abu "
MyUlster 6 months ago
@MyUlster I don't see anyone denying that the Red hand of ULSTER is O'Neill (acc.to myth and legend).That does not make it Catholic which you are trying to imply,just Irish.You seem to believe that I'm anti-Irish or something,when i'm not.I am descended from the Lamont clan in Scotland,and the O'Neills settled and CLAIMED a part of Scotland,SETTLED AND CLAIMED THE LAND OF ARGYLL IN SCOTLAND.That is why the Red Hand is on their clan badge.Pot.kettle,black.
strongarmofthepaw 6 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw I did not refer to God in my statement ! I referred to my clan and Ulster . For theas lands are still O'Neill lands ! As for Scotland my clan married in to the lands . McShanes are me clans Scot side . An Scots are a grate people as well an I have respect for any man whom knows there clans history ! Agion there is no refer to God in any way in my statement . Pot ,Kettle,Black ! Mr. Lamont .
MyUlster 6 months ago
@MyUlster Correct,you did not mention God,but then neither did I.Pot ,kettle black Respect the Scots - Not too much respect for the Ulster Scots though ! .You state that you are of the O'N's of Ulster (Ireland) and Scotland ,but me being a Lamont protestant I would not be as welcome in IRE as the former O'Neills - Lamonts also claim descent from O'Neill.Your comments are indirectly implying that,O'N's claim the province of Ulster > Ulster is in Ireland >Ireland should be catholic and Gaelic.
strongarmofthepaw 6 months ago
On word lads ! This THE RED HAND OF ULSTER IS MY CLANS ! Ye O'Neill of my clan cut his hand off an through the bloody hand to touch land first, to win the first pick of the land in a race to shore against the O’Donnells. ! That is the red hand of the O'Neill's an ye red is O'Neill Blood Red ! " Lamh Dearg Eirinn "
MyUlster 6 months ago
What a load of bollocks, recent polls in northern ireland state that the country doesn't want a united ireland, especially now with the euro
TheMillwall19 6 months ago
Fuck the "empire". Ulster was Clan Donald territory before England got its grubby hands on it.
irishrocker779 7 months ago
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irishrocker779 7 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw irish sport, irish heros, nothing to do with religion, why cant you see that! if u call sam mcguire a terrorist you might as well call george washington or nelson mandela
seanogcarey 7 months ago
@seanogcarey You appear to be quite intelligent,therefore read the comments in the context of which they were written.I did not bring Sam Maguire into the topic,i merely replied to a comment Mr Barry introduced concerning the 'forementioned. A sporting hero - Yes, i'll agree with that, but nothing to do with religion and not a terrorist - I don't think so! Just because(as far as i'm aware) Sam Maguire didn't lift a gun,doesn't mean he is innocent or was not complicit in terrorist murders.
strongarmofthepaw 7 months ago
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What a lot of Irish Republican bullshit.Modern Ulster consists of 6 counties,Ulster is loyal to Britain WWI ,WWII,36th ULSTER Division etc,Ulster has a protestant majority.No Surrender dates back to the Seige of Derry,The Red Hand of Ulster predates catholicism,1/3 of ulster is not run by Ireland,Republicans are enemies of Ulster.1969 who cheered the troops in Derry,Londonderry crying We've won Ulster is ours;the Irish of course.Didn't take them long to change their minds,did it!
strongarmofthepaw 7 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw 'Modern ulster' does not consist of 6 counties, the state known as 'Northern Ireland' consists of six occupied counties, this is why it is not called Ulster. Ulster does not have a protestant majority not that it matters. The red hand of ulster has fuck all to do with catholicism and is an ancient Irish symbol used by those who resisted English rule centuries ago. It has nothing to do with loyalism. Ulster is a province of Ireland.
TomBarry192I 7 months ago 15
@TomBarry192I Denial ! Didn't expect much more from you.That is why there will never be peace here.You cannot see what is in front of your eyes,everything you state is from a republican idealized viewpoint.Red Hand is not seen as a loyalist symbol ,though nationalists seem to enjoy burning them! If i walked into a catholic area with a Red Hand tattooed on my forehead,i wouldn't walk out again.Didn't say the Red Hand was catholic.Ulster is a province of an ancient Ireland,times have changed.
strongarmofthepaw 7 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw If you walked into a nationalist area with a red hand tattoo on your forehead, people would piss themselves laughing at you.
TomBarry192I 7 months ago 7
@TomBarry192I Being flippant does not take away the initial truth of the comment.If i walked into a catholic area wearing a t shirt with a Red Hand (which i don't own or never have} i would be shot or beaten if it is perceived as a loyalist symbol.If it is not,i should be freely able to walk anywhere freely in N.I. wearing the said t shirt,which quite simply is not the case.Mentioning cases' - I rest my case.
strongarmofthepaw 7 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw You wouldnt be shot or beaten, the Tir Eoghain gaelic football team have a red hand on their shirts. They are not shot or beaten.
TomBarry192I 7 months ago 4
@TomBarry192I Of course they wouldn't as they belong to, or support, the GAA which is almost 100% catholic.The GAA is an Irish Nationalist Organization which only recently has begun to distance itself from Republicanism and Republican activities.That does not go for the supporters or fans. GAA Trophies named after IRA murderers,GAA grounds used for commemorations of dead IRA members.Not exactly non-sectarian ,is it!
strongarmofthepaw 7 months ago
@TomBarry192I
Thanks for posting the truth about Ulster
The people who support the English controlled statlet of Northern Ireland are the real enemies and traitors to Ulster they are disloyal and betraying the Ulstermen of Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan
mcveigh1598 6 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw
The Red hand of Ulster is part of the Irish Nationalist 4 province flags it is also worn by GAA members from Ulster.. Irish Nationalists and Republicans are proud of the Red hand of Ulster as it is a Symbol of the O Neills and Resistance to English Rule...loyalist have hijacked this symbol to represent the English controlled 6 county statlet
mcveigh1598 6 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw
You are confusing the English cotrolled statlet named Northern Ireland with the Ancient Irish province of Ulster , watch the video again and take your time and try to understand. You and your supporters are an enemy of Ulster you are Disloyal and betraying the Ulstermen in Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal they are part of Ulster you support the English controlled statlet of Northern Ireland which divides Ulster
mcveigh1598 6 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw
The ancient arms of the O Neills carries the Motto in Gaelic " Lamh Dearg Eirinn " meaning the Red hand of Ireland
The O Neills fought for Ulster against the English you and your supporters are traitors to Ulster you are Englands slaves
mcveigh1598 6 months ago
@mcveigh1598 The province of Northern Ireland with the ancient province of Ulster.Yes-ancient.Maybe we should all live in the past and grow potatoes. - No heating,no welfare state,no money,jobs etc.Don't move forward - We want things back the way they were,but we'll pick and choose as to what suits our own ends.You're Ulster is not my Ulster ,I was actually born here (N.I.,Belfast)..Your worry should be about the immigrants invading ROI now.I fear for the future if the Irish race.Seriously.
strongarmofthepaw 6 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw Why do loyalists always come on nationalist videos. You know whats a good analogy for the relationship between the two sides, loyalists are abusive husbands that get precious when their battered wives actually stand up for themselves.
scientific1982 6 months ago
@scientific198 Simple - To rectify one-sided idealistic viewpoints posted by Republicans,the same way they comment on Loyalist videos.Irish Nationalism is simply a flawed ideal of how they want Ireland to be,irrespective of other peoples' who were actually also born here.They only see the part of history they wish to see.Once there were provincial kings,but of course,that wouldn't suit the Irish as it conflicts with their ideals.The past is not our future.Ethnic cleansing of Prods may suit you.
strongarmofthepaw 6 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw No one wants ethnic cleansing of Protestants, Ireland is your country too. There are O.O marches in Donegal every year without incident. In 2011 not too many people give a fuck about religion. Its in danger of going extinct down south. As you well know yourself, many prominent republicans have been Protestant. As for bias, I'm acutely aware of it on both sides.
scientific1982 6 months ago
@scientific1982 Well! i'm glad that someone actually respects the rights of Prods to live here.As for Prod republicans - The IRA bombing campaig has totally eroded any sense of Irishness from our people.Maybe i'm being unclear - I holiday in Ireland a lot, most Irish people hate Cavan,but we absolutely love it and it's people and great fishing.I've travelled all over ROI and they are the most hospitable race on the planet.Not so Northern Ireland republicans.I think Ireland has three races now.
strongarmofthepaw 6 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw Theres a fairly well known celtic pub where I live in an area thats completely SF. A wee lad and his father came in to drink watching the football. The young lad had a chelsea top on and my mate, whos a celtic fanatic, copped on that they were rangers supporters. Later on I heard the young lad whisper to his father about rangers and his old man told him to be quiet. Neither myself nor my friends could care less if they were rangers supporters. Cont.
scientific1982 6 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw Its a sad state of affairs because now that suspicion is passed on to a new generation. What a fuckin mess.
scientific1982 6 months ago
@scientific1982 Well said! I completely agree with you.The main problem is that we are a mongrel race.We have native Irish,Lowland Scots,Scots Highlanders with some Welsh and English thrown in.Almost e'one who was born here are a mix' of these races.I think it should be made compulsory for all people in N.I. to trace their ancestry.Most of them will be amazed by what they may find, I know i was - mixed marriages,native Scots, Irish.If SF want a New Ire,it cannot be based on a Republican agenda.
strongarmofthepaw 6 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw
My Ulster is the Real Ulster the 9 County Ulster you are under the Illusion that the English controlled six county Statlet of Northern Ireland is Ulster . You are betraying and being Disloyal to the Ulstermen in Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan.
Irish Nationalist and Republicans are not Sectarian they are very Proud of their Protestant Irish Patriots in the United Irishmen they Celebrate people like Wolfetone. Henry Joy McCracken, William Orr etc.
mcveigh1598 6 months ago
@mcveigh1598 I'm under no illusions ,I am what I was born into a six county province - Ulster.Glad Irish Nationalists and Republicans aren't sectarian.Maybe the murders inflicted by the IRA (Irish REPUBLICAN Army) and the INLA (Irish NATIONAL Liberation Army) were figments of my imagination,They couldn't have bombed,shot and maimed anyone.I very much doubt Tone,McCracken etc would have joined the UI,if they'd witnessed the IRA campaign of the last 30 years.Look up the meaning of Sectarian.
strongarmofthepaw 6 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw
You and your fellow travellers are the real enemies of Ulster. Ulster is an Ancient nine County Province of ireland not the six county English controlled statlet called Northern Ireland you and supporters have betrayed your Fellow Ulstermein in Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan. The True ulstermen are the Irish Nationalists and Republicans who want to See Ulster returned to its Natural state 9 United Counties.
mcveigh1598 5 months ago
@mcveigh We've betrayed no-one.We are Ulster-Scots, and we defend our own Race.Strange, Paisley sitting in Gov't and sharing power with Martin Maguinness - How sectarian of him! Boyne - Who decided to persuade Ireland to fight for an English King,who was deposed by Parliament - that would be James II. You can blame the 30 yr Provo campaign for making July 12th what it is to-day.It's no more bigoted than St.Patricks Day. .IRE/BRITISH dead.- Don't see many people wearing Poppies in ROI !
strongarmofthepaw 5 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw
You say Ulster scots....Well Ulster is one of the four Ancient Provinces of Ireland and the Scots by origin were Gaelic speaking people from Ireland how can you say you defend your own people when England drove the Gaelic Highland Scots and the Gaelic Irish off their land most of them emigrating to America and Canada..of course England got help from the lowland scots who surrendered to England and helped England in the persecution of the true Gaelic Scots.
mcveigh1598 5 months ago 3
@strongarmofthepaw
You say that the 12 of July is a purely Sectarian event because of a 30 year Provo campaign yet despite a 30 year loyalist terrorist campaign of bombings shooting and intimidation which killed maimed and terrorised thousands of innocent Men Women and Children in Ulster you will find that St Patricks day is not Sectarian and Nationalist and Republican marching bands celebrate Protestant Irish patriots aswell..The irish Tri Colour represents Catholic and Protestant
mcveigh1598 5 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw
If you do some research I am sure you will find that loyalists are far more Sectarian than Nationalists or republicans just look at their political spokesmen like Paisley Religious Fundamentalist Extreemist backed up by a Terrorist wing just like the Taliban.
mcveigh1598 5 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw
Nationalists and Republicans are very proud of their Protestant Irish Patriots and celebrate their memory. in contrast unionists and loyalist never celebrate the Catholic Soldiers who fought for King Billy and without whom he would not have won at the Boyne instead they turn the 12th of July into a purely Sectarian event . unionists and loyalist also never include the memory of the Irish 16th division of the first World war
mcveigh1598 5 months ago
@strongarmofthepaw A 15 yr old boy was beaten to death in my town by a loyalist gang for simply being a catholic and wearing a celtic top ,i rest my case.
navrats 2 months ago
great video!
seanogcarey 7 months ago
The worst bit of this video is that you are from Bellaghy in Northern Ireland and you know fuck all about your own country/occupied counties/who really cares anymore. Shame on you and your stupid ideas.
moomoo1337 7 months ago
grow up
tneill1996 8 months ago
Thank you so much for postng this video i was really tryng to understand this whole thing and this helped me better understand. now, i guess i can take pride in my ulster heritage?
chainsawz1 8 months ago
Northern Ireland is controlled by the Northern Irish not the English, ever heard of Stormont? I don't think the Northern Irish want to swap their Capital in Belfast for a Capital that is much further away in Dublin. Republicans should except a divided island, Britain was divided for centuries in the past. The British troops that 'occupy' northern ireland are northern irish, are countries not allowed to occupy their own country?
Theaverable 8 months ago
@paulmorgan78,combined with the people of Donegal(myself),Cavan and Monaghan I think there is a nationalist majority in Ulster :]
SolanoIRL09 8 months ago
Unionists or Nationalists, I can't decide who I should support, Nationalists because Ireland, whilst independent, is not united and it only seems right to bring the country together, then again Unionists because in 1800 they choose to unite with Britain for economic benefits under the Act of the Union and for religious gain, due to the fact they were predominantly protestant as was the majority of the British public at the time. What a mess.
PhilAFire93 8 months ago
@PhilAFire93,well you hit the nail,we should be united for the simple reason that this is Ireland.We know from history it's the right thing to do.What I can't understand is how can unionists,who can look at two sides of an argument and make a fair decision,not simply see from history that they have no right to keeping this island divided.
SolanoIRL09 8 months ago
why cant i add this to my favorites
fitzy545 8 months ago
I'm from a town called Bangor in Co. Down. I'm a son of Ulster.
MrMushroom33 8 months ago
fenians tried to take canada by force britain & allies kicked them right back to the u.s
salian66 9 months ago
Remember the brave men of 1916. Free Ulster!
the2ndgenes1s 9 months ago 2
why are they a spent force how come your not fighting along side gaddaffi as comrades in his hour of need?thought not
salian66 10 months ago
FUCKING HATE IRISH AMERICANS A BUNCH OF INBRED RETARDED BASTARDS I,D LOVE TO BATTER THE LOT OF THEM,WHY DON,T YOU FIGHT FOR THE LOST CAUSE IN IRELAND?NO I DID,NT THINK SO! WANKERS
salian66 10 months ago
@salian66 err, salian66, i think you should do your research. Irish Americans support us both politically and Financially lol they're a good support to the IRAs Arms and Explosives. Not only Irish Americans support the Irish but the rest of the world, the french, germans, russians, south americans, even some british have! lol! i would like to thank the ppl of all nationalities who support the IRA or a United Ireland. I love Americans :)
tysonthepooper 10 months ago
@salian66
The British and British loyalists Surrendered to the Brave American Republican Patriots at YorkTown in 1781, Irish men both Protestant and Catholic fought with the American Patriots The victory was a Great Inspiration for the United Irishmen an Irish Nationalist Movement of Protestant and Catholic Irish Patriots in Ireland aswell
mcveigh1598 9 months ago
fuck all you english bad teethed pricks
MatthewGen1 10 months ago
ireland only got in the shit like the u.k cuase the banks all got tooo greedy
steviecfc1 10 months ago
@TomBarry192I
Great video Tom Barry
Once again I admire your Patience with the slow Learners who are unable to Understand what Ulster is despite your crystal clear message.
The True Ulstermen who love Ulster want to see it Returned to its Natural State 9 United Counties and an End to the English Controlled 6 Counties
mcveigh1598 10 months ago
@WEEWELSHY100
Ulster is an Ancient 9 County Province of Ireland Not the 6 County English controlled Statlet called Northern Ireland. The True Ulstermen who Love Ulster want Ulster returned to its Natural State 9 United counties the enemies of ulster are those people who want Ulster kept divided by the English.
Have You watched the video ?.......Watch it again and take your time
mcveigh1598 10 months ago
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News Flash!!!! News Flash!!!! the world has just realised......Mohammed is a prophet....Jesus is the son of God....and Ulster is......Ireland
papadoc711 11 months ago
If we forget nationalism and states folr a minute,Northern Ireland remains geographically part of Ireland. We can't say that it remains part of the UK, as the UK is a political invention of the eighteenth century and rise of european transcontinental imperialism. Internationalists and anti nationalists can unite behind Ulster being Irish, but not behind it being in the UK.
channelhoplite 1 year ago
Yes I realize there are just such sources in the media of any nation but the facts are easy to find to anyone who puts in the effort
elamite66 1 year ago
@elamite66 How many people make the effort when it comes to tv? Why do you think programmes such as the X factor and Big brother were so popular? Lethargy and passive viewing are the allies of state educational influence on the maqsses. When I was growing up, I didnt have the remote control and BBC1 and ITV were the main sources of world facts.
channelhoplite 1 year ago
@channelhoplite The Daily Record is reknowned for reporting whatever the PM said on foreign polcy 24 hours after the event and giving its backing. Why else would media moghuls invest so much if they had no personal interests and understanding of group psychology?
channelhoplite 1 year ago
there is truth in what you say however you yourself are a victim of Nationalsit propoganda everybody is influenced by their situation and their relatives and communities
elamite66 1 year ago
@elamite66 Its not really a fair comparison, seeing as I havent had to live under military occupation. oYu might as well say that all South africans were victims of aparteid. This is true only in a very narrow sense of victimhood. I would concur that all Northern Irelanders are victims of historical interventionism, but the daily lives of UK mainlanders are not really comparable. For the most part, they block northern Ireland from their thinking. That can't be said for Northern Irelanders.
channelhoplite 1 year ago
mayb in the long run you'll turn out to be right but I have my doubts I think many Republicans view Loyalists has having no real sense of nationalism but just a fear of being in a Catholic majority and also many believe that the British government is still using Loyalist fears while there was some truth to this in centuries past today the British government will not openly admit this but many of its members will welcome being able to allow N.I. to vote itself into the Republic
elamite66 1 year ago
@elamite66 The British govt at present relies on the slim majority offered in part by the Northern Ireland unionists. Theyd be voting their Con-Dem coalition out of existence. This has probably got a historical role in why the Tories in particular have pushed the patriotic Uk card in Northern Ireland. It gets them votes.
channelhoplite 1 year ago
Ireland was part of the UK and forgetting the past for two minutes it had more in common with France occupying a strip of Flanders, or the Basque territories, or France annexing Nice Savoy and Corsica as the price for backing a united Italy but by World War 1 they were French provinces or Brittany in France rather the the assault on Belgium that was the cause of the UK declaring war the repressive measures of the past were gone with the land settlement dissestablishment of the C of I etc.
elamite66 1 year ago
@elamite66 Northern Ireland has never been viewed positively by a London government and "Ulster nationalism" is one result of anti Republican Northwern irelanders' dissatisfaction with their own placein UK history. Perhaps an Ulster within a federal Ireland will in the end be the result of British imperialism and religious tension being hstoriclly exploited..
channelhoplite 1 year ago
@elamite66 Prejudice and gerrymandering continue to have repercussions in regards to the chances of soilidarity between people who otherwise would be natural allies, and a sense of being ulsterian is in the end, more genuine historically and inclusive of all Northern irelanders than a sense of being part of the UK. In the Uk, there is the reliance on the mantra of a "small island". well Ulster has never been part of that island, however we measure its dimensions.
channelhoplite 1 year ago
this video is largely factual while it does have a certain Republican slant N.I. has existed for almost 100 years and that alone gives it a certain amount of credibility but I know that the two sides are for the most part at the extreme leaving little middle ground I can understand the Nationalist view and I can understand the Unionist view but I have to admit the Nationalist will almost certainly win out in the end Also while I view the IRA as terrorists the UFF,UDA and modern UVFare even worse
elamite66 1 year ago
yes it is true most protestants are squeezed like sardines @ Antrim and Down... why,,, history and facts show how prods have been intimidated by republican and nationalists. One thing you republican and nationalists are good at is twisting history and telling porky pies to the world to fund your IRA, INLA and other bigoted and sectarian organisations,One question, if a united Ireland came about tomorrow, would unionist beliefs & traditions be respected? (considering they're not at present!)
kalimcc100 1 year ago
@kalimcc100 I have posed a question but never recieved an answer, if in 1912 when the Biritish government ordered the troops at the Curragh to head north and break up the UVF gunrunning many officers threatened to resign their commisions rather than follow orders, the Cabined backed down with the notable exception of 1st Lord of the Adm. WS Churchill I think many officers were bluffing and if others weren't they should have takend their resignations The cabinet shouldn't ave caved part 1
elamite66 1 year ago
@kalimcc100 Part 2 If the cabinet had not caved would Easter Monday 1916 have been inevitable anyway? and the guerrilla war that followed, or would the implmentation of Home Rule with a parliament in Dublin for the 32 counties and MPs in Westminster also have been acceptable to anybody? The long line of valid compalints against the British Govt. were already in the past, RC Emancipation, The Gaelic League in the open, the dissestablishment of the C of I, the land in the hand fo the people etc.
elamite66 1 year ago
@kalimcc100 Part 3 the Republicans were bent on violent uprising Ostensibly the major single reason for the rising in Easter 1916 was the passing of a conscription law for the whole UK but in fact it was never extended to Ireland and conscription was never implyed in NI in World War 2 either, the court martials and executions of the uprising,s leaders was hardly to be debated about at the time after all the IRA was in collusion with Germany while World War 1 raged
elamite66 1 year ago
@elamite66 What was the difference between Germany occupying countries during world war 1 and Britain occupying Ireland? Ireland had to fight for its own Independece. No other country aided us in war since France in the 1798 rebellion.
TomBarry192I 1 year ago
@TomBarry192I Part 2 Catholic emancipation was complete the Gaelic League operated in the open as did the Gaelic Athletic Association or Arthur Griffith's Sein Fein However we all know that there was a signigant group who wanted an independent Republic and hatred and resented England for past wrongs both fact and propoganda but there was enough fact This virtual equity in the UK allowed the Irish to organize and of course the Ulster Loyalists were also keeping things boiling so VIOLENCE
elamite66 1 year ago
@kalimcc100 Part 4 Do you think there woudl have been any chance of peace if the Home Rule Bill had been implemented with a 32 county parliament in Dublin and MPs in Westminster or was Easter Monday 1916 inevitable?
elamite66 1 year ago
When Edward Carson fought for a Northern Ireland, it was to protect the protestant people from the suffering that would have could from a Home rule/Rome rule situation, and trust me 3 counties were not surrendered to keep unionist a majority, they were surrendered by the British government as a bid for peace, Unionist and Carson wanted 9 counties, not 6!
kalimcc100 1 year ago
@kalimcc100 Carson never lifted a finger for 'Northern Ireland'. He campaigned against the partition of Ireland, he didn't even want the 6 county state created. Unionists asked him to be the first PM and he turned it down. The Ulster Unionist Council chose to surrender three Ulster counties in May 1920. Why don't your learn your own history instead of twisting it? Watch my video 'Englishman's Betrayal?' and educate yourself.
TomBarry192I 1 year ago
@TomBarry192I I've seen 'Englishman's Betrayal" and I have educated myself, the reason the three counties were surrendered was that a nine county Ulster would have only about a 55% unionist majority buy a six county state had about a 65% majority which was much more workable Carson would have liked to have seen Home Rule defeated completely and all Ireland remain in the union without Home Rule As this was not possible Carson favored the six county state, He and James Craig were the main movers
elamite66 1 year ago
you should be banned from posting on this sight... you're a liar! and a thief of history.. telling the world lies for your own belief's. Learn your history and stop listen to pub stories or wee stories your granda told ya..!
kalimcc100 1 year ago
maybe you have a point there but if there is a 32 County Ireland they can still shuffle back and forth, since the UK has allowed Irish citizens to enter the UK without a passport and since both are now in the EU the border makes little practical difference so it's going to depend on nationalism or unionism and the Union has never been very popular with the Catholic population I won't live long enough to see but maybe you will I hope whatever happens Ireland will have peace and prosperity PEACE
elamite66 1 year ago
@elamite66 fair enough comments... at the end of the day.. we all want peace.. and catholic or protestant, whatever should show respect for each others traditions and all stop living in the past, fair enough.. however.. how can anyone be expected to overlook and walk away from liars and people hell bend on not only continual bringing up the past but twisting it at the same time... the same old story, poor hard done by republicans, bla bla, protestants are in ulster & here to stay, live with it!
kalimcc100 1 year ago
@kalimcc100 WISE UP!!!! I DONT NEED TO I AM SCOTTISH AND HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THE TERRIBLE ATTROCITIES THAT ULSTER HAS ENDURED IN MY LIFE TIME {MY INDEPENDENT NATION WAS ONCE INVADED BY THEM EARLIER THAN THAN THE 32} MY NATION HAS BEEN DICTATED TO BY THE EMPIRE FOR WHAT SEEMS AN ETERNITY THEREFOR THE ALL KNOWING PEOPLE TELL US STOP LOOKING BACK JUST LOOK FORWARD TO MORE BECAUSE THATS THE WAY IT IS ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN KNOWS HUMAN NATURE WILL ALWAYS REBEL AGAINST WRONG DOINGS
TheSpiritof45 1 year ago
@kalimcc100 JUST ANOTHER SMALL COMPERISON "I BREAK INTO YOUR HOME" MOVE ALL MY PALS IN THEN BEFORE THE RIGHT AND PROPER REMOVAL OF ME I DEMAND A VOTE IN THE HOUSE OF ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY I THINK YOU WILL FIND ULSTER `FOLLOWED A SIMILIAR ROUTE BACKED BY A CORRUPT GREEDY NATION OF THIEVES A CUKOO BORN IN A STARLINGS NEST REMAINS A CUKOO YES SOME ULSTER PEOPLE ARE BRITTISH AND SHOULD BE PROUD BUT THIER IN SOMEONE ELSES COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEACE SOON?
TheSpiritof45 1 year ago
@TheSpiritof45 a cukoo born in a starlings nest is still a cukoo... thats very poetic, however we're talking about human beings... over 400 years of generations worth, most from Scotland . Then lets go back further @ 5th century, migration of Irish celts to Britain..mainly Scotland..now @ 17th (1600's) Presbyterians from Scotland migrated to Ireland settle @ Co.Antrim & Co.Down... so in theory.. all ya have is cukoo's being born and their neighboring cukoo's nest..
kalimcc100 1 year ago
@kalimcc100 I think your mind has gone cuckoo
TomBarry192I 1 year ago
@TomBarry192I NAHH tom... nearly there... not just yet, but no matter how cukoo, even the world seems... the past is the past... peace in NI is fragile and i'm not the tosser posting untrue and twist versions of history on youtube... just to keep untrue history afloat and encourage republican scum (CIRA, REAL IRA, 32 Movement etc etc) to try their best to destroy what little peace and respect good catholic and protestants people have for each other. SHAME ON YOU!
kalimcc100 1 year ago
@kalimcc100 Why are you bringing up religion you sectarian minded person?
TomBarry192I 1 year ago
@TomBarry192I I don't see anything wrong with bringing up religion, I have catholic friends, and work with many people from others religions, hows it sectarian talking about religion? lol U knob, you only see it as sectarian because of you own narrow minded, inward looking views. The issue here is you twisting history, telling lies and in doing so flues the old fire of bitterness within both communities. I don't have a problems with catholics! but, republican liars, I have a big problem with!
kalimcc100 1 year ago 2
@TheSpiritof45 2nd...you're basically saying me (protestant) don't belong here in Northern Ireland. Mate, countries chg over the years, (USSR, USA, etc etc) so yes, wise up! dry your eyes, do you say the say about Americans? Irish Americans, who most I might add are of protestant faith, should they all pack up and move back to ulster where their seeds are from?...(1650-1800 migrations