"I think paying income taxes is stealing and no one should have to pay them. Its the government cheating us out of our hard earned money."
Yeahhhhh, I don't know about that. I agree that paying taxes sucks. I pay self-employment taxes, UGH, so I pay even more.
But you can't just use the country's resources and roam around freely without being an accountable citizen. You gotta pay rent, y'all. You'll gladly pay your mortgages, but you won't pay for the roads you drive on?
It's like this: the young are still educated for college prep and then they are expected to pay through horrible long-term loan arrangements to pay for their college educations and after they graduate they have to hear how the education they just got is no longer needed in the workplace. WHO should pay? The students, the government or the stinkin' rotten corporations who make phony demands to flood a workplace so they can exploit it with lesser pay and benefits?
Yyyyeah, but my problem with that is accountability.
I owe the government $60k due to education loans, and I knew what I was doing each time I signed a promissory note. Not once have I heard that the education I worked for is "not needed" in the workplace. I know we're in an employment crisis, but people with degrees still have the advantage.
My answer to corporate bullshit is self-employment. It's not for everyone, but I don't feel comfortable blaming corporations for me having loan debt.
the more the government is allowed to Tax the people, the more indebted we all are too our Government, They will Get more power the more they "Tax the little Guy. trust me. artistichicana"
hey bill, more power to you. but life is to short to deal with these type of headaches. peace of mind is worth the small bit the gov't will hound you for in the long run, imo.
My actual mission is to eventually get legislature to realize the errors of their ways and to void the unconstitutional law that gives the state unlimited powers over the press. It's why we are called the Fourth Estate - we must remain independent and free from any government regulation and control, otherwise this is not the USofA.
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel You continue to prove to be the idiot clown you are. Of course Obama is not in the business to shut down any news organization, whether real or NOT. Fox is NOT a real news org, it's the mouthpiece for corporatism, racism, hate and fear. If you had watched my Exterminate Fox video, you would have known I was calling for the PEOPLE to shut down Fox thru BOYCOTT. Duh! Do you see the difference now? Then take off your blinders and look!
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel I still consider Fox Mews' complicity with George Bush over Iraq holding weapons of mass destruction as an imminent threat to USA security and justification for war against Iraq to be among the most treasonous acts. And I'm almost certain that Fox helped spur the war effort when the news media was sleeping (except me and many bold journalists) who screamed EVIL in the face of the devil day and night, day and night, and idiots like you still believe Fox Mews lies.
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel First, one must learn the art of debate before flapping at the lips, or fingers as is our case. Second, you're the one whining about Fox Mews being dumped in the Sea of Lies from which it emanated.
i find it difficult to believe you are 56. drugs degrade a human mind(assuming you are human) more than i thought.
the art of debate involves presenting a thesis(argument ) and presenting factas which support that argument and, secondarily, facts which negate ones opponents facts.
below i presented an argument on WMD's. you have yet to refute my argument and the underlying facts in any meaningful way.
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel So, you didn't get the first time. So I will spell it out. NO WMDs were found in Iraq during the 2003-2010 Iraq War .The only WMDs are the ones we dumped on them. Get a life, Comrade ScrewNuis!
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel The fact that NOT one WMD has been found in Iraq from 2003-2010 is proof enough. Where do you get your faulty information? Of course, that would be Fox Mews.
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Logic? Your argument is totally illogical. The fact is, no WMDs have been found in Iraq since bumblebutt Bush declared war on Iraq and that is FACT. The fact we haven't detonated A-bombs for decades is mute because our government acknowledges their existence and because one is sitting somewhere under your ass ready to give you one hell of an enema, Comrade Estupido Moron.
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel The proof is up your arse. Just light the fuse and see what happens. I thought you were smarter than the dumb ass you're proving to be, Comrade Racist Stink Hole Up Yours
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Debate, commentary, editorializing, propaganda, etc. are all skills under my hat. What's under yours, Fox Mews buried under a ton of cement?
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Their are plenty of gulags created by the GOP f'in' war machine here in the USA and abroad, and they're making excellent profits off their tyranny. Now they use the same money to run campaigns that no longer have mandated spending limits. Oh, I forgot to mention the gulag that exists inside your head, Comrade Warden Buck Futts.
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel They are everywhere. GOP investors are getting fat off of imprisoning a great deal of our population, and mostly for stupid things like possessing or distributing pot. What a scam they are running and it's even good for the courts, police and lawyers. It creates another layer of unwarranted authority that must be reckoned with, otherwise the GOP mobsters will bankroll the entire country.
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Like good obstructionist, they dug huge pits, poured gasoline and bodies into them, and ignited them afire. As for my political prognosis of the last two years - the Dems have been kowtowing to the Republican minority and kissing their asses and deserve to have the shit beat out of them for even thinking about kissing up to GOP ideals, principles and policies, like the purported ObamaCare which should read GOP-KillCare.
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel It was Bushy Wooshy who pushy the country and world economies to a perilous cesspool. You already lost all of your respect just being a troll rag doll without an identity. Except perhaps you hide behind a compound on which is inscribed the words, Comrade Nuck Futt RIP!
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Since you're asking all of the questions, why don't you try to answer them too? It'll make it easier on us all, Comrade Curious George.
i bet you want time travel more than anyone in the country.
dont you wish you could take the hot tub time machine back to woodstock.
back then, quoting a few lines of marx, spouting off about the man, not bathing and spreading a few dime bags of pot around would get you laid constantly even an ugly old fuck like you.
good thing liberal bitches are so stupid(especially stoned)
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel You think you're crawling under my skin. That's okay, I don't mind wallowing in the mud singing about peace and love while you send your sons and daughters off to die in your miserable illegal wars. I hope you're a general of the army so that your conscience burns with extreme intensity as you watch the coffins loading up. And your mother wears the army boots that were planted up your arse by the Taliban dude named LawnMower Man, LOL!
@desertjournalonline Debate, commentary, editorializing, propaganda, etc. are all skills under my hat. What's under yours, Fox Mews buried under a ton of cement?
Your judgment is wrong. I quit heavy drinking well over 30 years ago after my college days and I have not had a drop of alcohol in my system for at least 15 months. Things aren't always what they seem and next time maybe you should ask someone what their problem might be before coming to any conclusion.
If you want to call not paying your own taxes a protest, more power to you.
But, any business owner will tell you that taxes collected from customers belong to the govt. and you are just holding it until quarterly's. it isn't your money to protest with. It sounds like You charged the customers tax and kept it, that is stealing from both customer and govt. If you hadn't charged the the customer the tax you might have a moral leg to stand on and a valid protest, Instead you look like a tax cheat.
Whether a business collects the tax or not, the state still will pro-rate it. Yea, I wrestled over this but you apparently fail to recognize the first amendment enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, and that includes a ban on taxes of newspapers because you cannot turn a right into a privilege and tax it. And if you interrupt financial operations with tax levies, then you have violated that newspaper's rights. The government does NOT have limitless powers.
Shouldnt cheat on your taxes period, thats the dumbest thing anyone could do. Just because the federal government isnt always fair doesnt mean that we as citizens of the United States should ever be excused to do so.
The federal government is fair! It was the state of New Mexico whose tax law is used to derail first amendment rights of newspapers (you can't tax a right and make it a privilege to be revoked because of noncompliance). New Mexico and Hawaii are the only two states in the Union that do this; the remaining 48 states recognize the intent of the Constitution to keep the press sovereign and free, and that includes NO TAXATION!
One person doing it is an easy target for the Government to railroad... like the poor unfortunate chap who made this video. No, we need tens of millions to do it together for it to work.
Fact is: Millions already have joined the tax revolt. Who is going to organize such a feat? The guy who made this video thinks the solution is to sue the state legislature, which made the unconstitutional tax law. This is NOT even a federal case. But one way or another, what we have now is taxation without representation - all of the bailout money is going to the super rich and all they have for the rest of us schmoes is "trickle down poverty." Let 'em eat cake!
While I agree that this guy is correct in the Unconstitutionality of the tax. He has the wrong part of the Constitution picked. If you pick something as ambiguous as "No taxation without representation" You'll lose every time since 'representation' means different things to different people. However, it's hard to argue who owns one's own labor and who owns one's product created by their own labor. He almost had it right in focusing on Free Press... he should have stuck with that approach.
Actually, it is a first amendment cause, and has little to do with taxation without representation. I think what I meant to say is double taxation or duplicate taxation wherein the costs are absorbed ultimately by the consumer, yet there is no credit or the benefit of deduction for having paid the excessive tax.
I don't think we should actually do it all at once but maybe "cheat" little by little so that the IRS doesn't notice at first but within a few years they will begin to notice. We can also work with others who feel the same way and work to get paid "under the table" or "don't report income to the IRS".
It's not cheating if you never agreed to the rules. The US Government has become tyrannical in nature and must be taught a lesson. We must do this as a very large group, more than 1 million at least and if we can, as many as 10 to 20 million people should participate. We need to send a message.
What happens if we figure the total amount of tax filers and figure that each one not pay the full amount owed like $50.00 or so. We can have a 300,000,000 X $50.00 = 15 billion that doesn't get paid to the IRS. They will definately notice that and since the amount self-deducted is small they can't come after each of us that hard.
Sure it will get their attention, but they'll just come after us one by one and take us out making our lives miserable. No, we need this statement to be bold and in their faces. 3000.00 per year times 1,000,000 people will be good, 10 million would be better, and 15 million people would even be better. There isn't 300 million tax payers in this country. Maybe 120 million at most. We need at least 10% of those people to stand up and revolt against the Federal Government.
This was NOT a matter of cheating. I reported every penny I owed to the state of New Mexico. I just did NOT pay it. I revolted. I DID NOT CHEAT! Further, I paid more than $23,500 to rid myself of the tax liens on my pursuit of happiness and now they stated again to hound me over the $3,500 I still owe, which I've been paying off monthly. Further, today the ACLU returned my call and will be sending me a complaint form. Then they will decide if my case merits a looksee.
I hear what you are saying about using the word cheating. Its not accurate and makes it sound like you defrauded the government which is what I don't agree with. I just couldn't think of another word to use. Sorry.
I think paying income taxes is stealing and no one should have to pay them. Its the government cheating us out of our hard earned money.
No taxation without representation. I take it that this fellow is not wealthy enough to be represented. Seems honest though. IF ONLY THE RICH ARE REPRESENTED, ONLY THE RICH SHOULD BE TAXED. For the rest of us I recomend TAX REVOLT. This is our country, and we should support those like this fellow, who rebell abainst the money grubbing leaches who control the government. In my opinion this fellow is a true AMERICAN HERO.
Thanks for the clarification and compliment. I think it also represents double taxation. All of these layers of taxation are hidden too. I sincerely believe that sometimes the big fishies support these kind of taxes because it tends to snub out their competition.
It has been on the New Mexico Press Association's agenda every legislative session. But the bastards always pull rabbits out of their hats and do their tricks to get us to forget about it. Maybe a challenge before the U.S. district court would be a good place for them to open their eyes and see the light. But you're right I should send my video out to all of the state legislators so they can know exactly what they did to harm the press.
It is and the state has gotten away with it for too long because no one has challenged it. Maybe if I make a bunch of threats and throw stones legislators will wake up and change the law. Maybe I should seek the ACLU's help. I put this out as a feeler to see what kind of input I get. I'm going to send it out to NM press soon so they can digest it too.
Hi, Dorothy, I know, so I ended up paying $23,000 or 85% of the total due and they agreed to remove all liens, leaving me the $4,000 balance to pay without further penalty and interest. Question is: does my case fall under an infringement of a free press? I don't think anyone has challenged the NM law in any court and if I were to do so I would go to the US district court for remedy. Or start something to change the state law. What do you think?
That's faaar out maaan.
DanNinjaMan 1 year ago
@DanNinjaMan The Martians are far out too, I just wish the tax man would go after them instead.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
"I think paying income taxes is stealing and no one should have to pay them. Its the government cheating us out of our hard earned money."
Yeahhhhh, I don't know about that. I agree that paying taxes sucks. I pay self-employment taxes, UGH, so I pay even more.
But you can't just use the country's resources and roam around freely without being an accountable citizen. You gotta pay rent, y'all. You'll gladly pay your mortgages, but you won't pay for the roads you drive on?
turrillster 2 years ago
It's like this: the young are still educated for college prep and then they are expected to pay through horrible long-term loan arrangements to pay for their college educations and after they graduate they have to hear how the education they just got is no longer needed in the workplace. WHO should pay? The students, the government or the stinkin' rotten corporations who make phony demands to flood a workplace so they can exploit it with lesser pay and benefits?
desertjournalonline 2 years ago
Yyyyeah, but my problem with that is accountability.
I owe the government $60k due to education loans, and I knew what I was doing each time I signed a promissory note. Not once have I heard that the education I worked for is "not needed" in the workplace. I know we're in an employment crisis, but people with degrees still have the advantage.
My answer to corporate bullshit is self-employment. It's not for everyone, but I don't feel comfortable blaming corporations for me having loan debt.
turrillster 2 years ago
@desertjournalonline
yeah, the evil corps!!!
if only we had a workers paradise like the USSR!!
WAIT?? didnt ronal reagan bitchslap those losers out of existence??
OOOPPPPSSS tough luck for you , COMRADE!!!
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
the more the government is allowed to Tax the people, the more indebted we all are too our Government, They will Get more power the more they "Tax the little Guy. trust me. artistichicana"
ArtistiChicana 2 years ago
hey bill, more power to you. but life is to short to deal with these type of headaches. peace of mind is worth the small bit the gov't will hound you for in the long run, imo.
abovefilms 2 years ago
My actual mission is to eventually get legislature to realize the errors of their ways and to void the unconstitutional law that gives the state unlimited powers over the press. It's why we are called the Fourth Estate - we must remain independent and free from any government regulation and control, otherwise this is not the USofA.
desertjournalonline 2 years ago
@desertjournalonline
free press?? yes , i agree, thank god , comrade general secretary assclown OBAMA hasnt been able to shut down FOX, the only REAL news organization
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel You continue to prove to be the idiot clown you are. Of course Obama is not in the business to shut down any news organization, whether real or NOT. Fox is NOT a real news org, it's the mouthpiece for corporatism, racism, hate and fear. If you had watched my Exterminate Fox video, you would have known I was calling for the PEOPLE to shut down Fox thru BOYCOTT. Duh! Do you see the difference now? Then take off your blinders and look!
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
FOX isnt a real news organization??
you mean they broadcast lies???
which lies , EXACTLY, COMRADE??
you will document them for us , wont you??
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel You want the documented lies? Then just turn on Fox Mews, you'll have all the proof you need.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
perhaps you could cite just ONE LIE comrade.
lets have something specific
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel I still consider Fox Mews' complicity with George Bush over Iraq holding weapons of mass destruction as an imminent threat to USA security and justification for war against Iraq to be among the most treasonous acts. And I'm almost certain that Fox helped spur the war effort when the news media was sleeping (except me and many bold journalists) who screamed EVIL in the face of the devil day and night, day and night, and idiots like you still believe Fox Mews lies.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
1) war a) fact- WMDs are chemical biological and nuclear b) fact- saddam used WMDs on the KURDS in 1991 c) therefore- saddam had WMDs in 2003
2) oohh!! i see , no war against the poor shitslams sheltering the animals who murdered our people, you libtards make me sick
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel You racist pigs make yourself sick with all of the garbage you eat from Fox Mews.
c) The WMDs are up your butt and are about to explode, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, KAPLOOEY!
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
"boo hoo!! BOO HOO!!!, you are a racist"
that whiny trump card doesnt work anymore to stop debate, comrade
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel First, one must learn the art of debate before flapping at the lips, or fingers as is our case. Second, you're the one whining about Fox Mews being dumped in the Sea of Lies from which it emanated.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
i find it difficult to believe you are 56. drugs degrade a human mind(assuming you are human) more than i thought.
the art of debate involves presenting a thesis(argument ) and presenting factas which support that argument and, secondarily, facts which negate ones opponents facts.
below i presented an argument on WMD's. you have yet to refute my argument and the underlying facts in any meaningful way.
i pity you, so old and you never grew
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel So, you didn't get the first time. So I will spell it out. NO WMDs were found in Iraq during the 2003-2010 Iraq War .The only WMDs are the ones we dumped on them. Get a life, Comrade ScrewNuis!
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
SADDAM had wmd's in 2003 therefore he had wmd's in 2010.
the onus, you fucking moron,, after saddam proved he had them, is on you to DISprove their existence
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel The fact that NOT one WMD has been found in Iraq from 2003-2010 is proof enough. Where do you get your faulty information? Of course, that would be Fox Mews.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
it is called logic, moron.
example, using your LOGIC, since the USA hasnt detonated an atomic bomb in 30 years a case can be made that we dont have any
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Logic? Your argument is totally illogical. The fact is, no WMDs have been found in Iraq since bumblebutt Bush declared war on Iraq and that is FACT. The fact we haven't detonated A-bombs for decades is mute because our government acknowledges their existence and because one is sitting somewhere under your ass ready to give you one hell of an enema, Comrade Estupido Moron.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
nigger, what is illogical??
i thought you believed the USA lies, you said they lied about iraq having WMD's maybe they lied about the USA having them, so , where is the proof??
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel The proof is up your arse. Just light the fuse and see what happens. I thought you were smarter than the dumb ass you're proving to be, Comrade Racist Stink Hole Up Yours
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
what a brilliant democommie riposte??
you must be one of the liberal intelligentsia elite
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Worse... Lawnmower Man in your head, Jake! LOL
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
how germane , you must be so proud of your skill to dispute
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Debate, commentary, editorializing, propaganda, etc. are all skills under my hat. What's under yours, Fox Mews buried under a ton of cement?
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
you talk a good game but have no facts
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Okay, you're an five-year-old boy trapped inside the body of an 85-y-o hag.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
lucky you!!
the reincarnation of uncle joe stalin
it must kill you that there are no gulags
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Their are plenty of gulags created by the GOP f'in' war machine here in the USA and abroad, and they're making excellent profits off their tyranny. Now they use the same money to run campaigns that no longer have mandated spending limits. Oh, I forgot to mention the gulag that exists inside your head, Comrade Warden Buck Futts.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
gee whiz , comrade, are you upset, like so many liberals , that we lock up arab terrorists??
too bad!!
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
PS where are those GOP gulags???
if they existed , you would have pictures
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel They are everywhere. GOP investors are getting fat off of imprisoning a great deal of our population, and mostly for stupid things like possessing or distributing pot. What a scam they are running and it's even good for the courts, police and lawyers. It creates another layer of unwarranted authority that must be reckoned with, otherwise the GOP mobsters will bankroll the entire country.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
so, where are all the pictures of dead bodies coming out??
where are they??
why do they exist, since comrade general secretary assclown is in the white house and democommies control both houses??
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Like good obstructionist, they dug huge pits, poured gasoline and bodies into them, and ignited them afire. As for my political prognosis of the last two years - the Dems have been kowtowing to the Republican minority and kissing their asses and deserve to have the shit beat out of them for even thinking about kissing up to GOP ideals, principles and policies, like the purported ObamaCare which should read GOP-KillCare.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
where are these victims comrade??
where are the bodies, comrade??
if the dems are kowtowing to the GOP, then why did comrade stepanfechit borrow and 3 trillion dollars.
or are you now saying , COMRADE, we believe in big govt??
because we dont, but say it anyway, lose that last shred of respect youtubers may have for you
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel It was Bushy Wooshy who pushy the country and world economies to a perilous cesspool. You already lost all of your respect just being a troll rag doll without an identity. Except perhaps you hide behind a compound on which is inscribed the words, Comrade Nuck Futt RIP!
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
so, no actual facts, but a few lines of gibberish and a personal insult.
I REPEAT comrade!!
if there are gulags in the USA
where are the bodies?
where are the camps??
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel Since you're asking all of the questions, why don't you try to answer them too? It'll make it easier on us all, Comrade Curious George.
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
go back to plucking your banjo,dropping peyote, and singing kumbaya ....off key.
it really is all you are good for
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
i bet you want time travel more than anyone in the country.
dont you wish you could take the hot tub time machine back to woodstock.
back then, quoting a few lines of marx, spouting off about the man, not bathing and spreading a few dime bags of pot around would get you laid constantly even an ugly old fuck like you.
good thing liberal bitches are so stupid(especially stoned)
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@ObamaIsAMarxistTowel You think you're crawling under my skin. That's okay, I don't mind wallowing in the mud singing about peace and love while you send your sons and daughters off to die in your miserable illegal wars. I hope you're a general of the army so that your conscience burns with extreme intensity as you watch the coffins loading up. And your mother wears the army boots that were planted up your arse by the Taliban dude named LawnMower Man, LOL!
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline
which wars, COMRADE, are illegal??
WW2?? a democommie war(FDR)
korea, vietnam, also democommie wars(truman, johnson)?
WW1?(wilson) also a democommie?
all those wars the AMERICAN body count was so much higher
except , unlike 9/11, our people werent attacked .
grow up , comrade retard
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@desertjournalonline Debate, commentary, editorializing, propaganda, etc. are all skills under my hat. What's under yours, Fox Mews buried under a ton of cement?
but no facts??
gee whiz, what a surprise??
a commie with no facts
ObamaIsAMarxistTowel 1 year ago
@desertjournalonline...the little dickless coward was pawned by a 15 year old boy on this subject......lol.
Mazeppa4 1 year ago
@Mazeppa4 LOL, I bet he's a five year old pretending to be a teen, hahaha!
desertjournalonline 1 year ago
i can tell hes an alchohlic.... i dont like to be judemental but there is help
halo81312936 2 years ago
Your judgment is wrong. I quit heavy drinking well over 30 years ago after my college days and I have not had a drop of alcohol in my system for at least 15 months. Things aren't always what they seem and next time maybe you should ask someone what their problem might be before coming to any conclusion.
1000You2b0001 2 years ago 3
If you want to call not paying your own taxes a protest, more power to you.
But, any business owner will tell you that taxes collected from customers belong to the govt. and you are just holding it until quarterly's. it isn't your money to protest with. It sounds like You charged the customers tax and kept it, that is stealing from both customer and govt. If you hadn't charged the the customer the tax you might have a moral leg to stand on and a valid protest, Instead you look like a tax cheat.
minegoesto11 2 years ago
Whether a business collects the tax or not, the state still will pro-rate it. Yea, I wrestled over this but you apparently fail to recognize the first amendment enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, and that includes a ban on taxes of newspapers because you cannot turn a right into a privilege and tax it. And if you interrupt financial operations with tax levies, then you have violated that newspaper's rights. The government does NOT have limitless powers.
1000You2b0001 2 years ago
Shouldnt cheat on your taxes period, thats the dumbest thing anyone could do. Just because the federal government isnt always fair doesnt mean that we as citizens of the United States should ever be excused to do so.
probablecause111 2 years ago
The federal government is fair! It was the state of New Mexico whose tax law is used to derail first amendment rights of newspapers (you can't tax a right and make it a privilege to be revoked because of noncompliance). New Mexico and Hawaii are the only two states in the Union that do this; the remaining 48 states recognize the intent of the Constitution to keep the press sovereign and free, and that includes NO TAXATION!
1000You2b0001 2 years ago
Hell yeah!
Protesters 3 years ago
Oh, the best tax revolt is to withdraw, drop out of employment and stop paying taxes.
1000You2b0001 3 years ago
We need to start a TAX REVOLT... now, we won't start until we have 10 to 15 million people to do it at thte same time.
EvilMongrelMonkey 3 years ago
Just do it, no need to wait for the next person!
1000You2b0001 3 years ago
One person doing it is an easy target for the Government to railroad... like the poor unfortunate chap who made this video. No, we need tens of millions to do it together for it to work.
EvilMongrelMonkey 3 years ago
Fact is: Millions already have joined the tax revolt. Who is going to organize such a feat? The guy who made this video thinks the solution is to sue the state legislature, which made the unconstitutional tax law. This is NOT even a federal case. But one way or another, what we have now is taxation without representation - all of the bailout money is going to the super rich and all they have for the rest of us schmoes is "trickle down poverty." Let 'em eat cake!
1000You2b0001 3 years ago
While I agree that this guy is correct in the Unconstitutionality of the tax. He has the wrong part of the Constitution picked. If you pick something as ambiguous as "No taxation without representation" You'll lose every time since 'representation' means different things to different people. However, it's hard to argue who owns one's own labor and who owns one's product created by their own labor. He almost had it right in focusing on Free Press... he should have stuck with that approach.
EvilMongrelMonkey 3 years ago
Actually, it is a first amendment cause, and has little to do with taxation without representation. I think what I meant to say is double taxation or duplicate taxation wherein the costs are absorbed ultimately by the consumer, yet there is no credit or the benefit of deduction for having paid the excessive tax.
1000You2b0001 3 years ago
I don't think we should actually do it all at once but maybe "cheat" little by little so that the IRS doesn't notice at first but within a few years they will begin to notice. We can also work with others who feel the same way and work to get paid "under the table" or "don't report income to the IRS".
timbosforporn 2 years ago
It's not cheating if you never agreed to the rules. The US Government has become tyrannical in nature and must be taught a lesson. We must do this as a very large group, more than 1 million at least and if we can, as many as 10 to 20 million people should participate. We need to send a message.
EvilMongrelMonkey 2 years ago 2
What happens if we figure the total amount of tax filers and figure that each one not pay the full amount owed like $50.00 or so. We can have a 300,000,000 X $50.00 = 15 billion that doesn't get paid to the IRS. They will definately notice that and since the amount self-deducted is small they can't come after each of us that hard.
timbosforporn 2 years ago
Sure it will get their attention, but they'll just come after us one by one and take us out making our lives miserable. No, we need this statement to be bold and in their faces. 3000.00 per year times 1,000,000 people will be good, 10 million would be better, and 15 million people would even be better. There isn't 300 million tax payers in this country. Maybe 120 million at most. We need at least 10% of those people to stand up and revolt against the Federal Government.
EvilMongrelMonkey 2 years ago
This was NOT a matter of cheating. I reported every penny I owed to the state of New Mexico. I just did NOT pay it. I revolted. I DID NOT CHEAT! Further, I paid more than $23,500 to rid myself of the tax liens on my pursuit of happiness and now they stated again to hound me over the $3,500 I still owe, which I've been paying off monthly. Further, today the ACLU returned my call and will be sending me a complaint form. Then they will decide if my case merits a looksee.
1000You2b0001 2 years ago
I hear what you are saying about using the word cheating. Its not accurate and makes it sound like you defrauded the government which is what I don't agree with. I just couldn't think of another word to use. Sorry.
I think paying income taxes is stealing and no one should have to pay them. Its the government cheating us out of our hard earned money.
timbosforporn 2 years ago
No taxation without representation. I take it that this fellow is not wealthy enough to be represented. Seems honest though. IF ONLY THE RICH ARE REPRESENTED, ONLY THE RICH SHOULD BE TAXED. For the rest of us I recomend TAX REVOLT. This is our country, and we should support those like this fellow, who rebell abainst the money grubbing leaches who control the government. In my opinion this fellow is a true AMERICAN HERO.
ehswan 3 years ago
Thanks for the clarification and compliment. I think it also represents double taxation. All of these layers of taxation are hidden too. I sincerely believe that sometimes the big fishies support these kind of taxes because it tends to snub out their competition.
desertjournalonline 3 years ago
Greetings!
Gaby.
pili2255 3 years ago
Viva! Revolucion!!! Brotha!
geoshelewis 3 years ago
Oh geez, I think you should start something to change the state law.
Fringe111 3 years ago
It has been on the New Mexico Press Association's agenda every legislative session. But the bastards always pull rabbits out of their hats and do their tricks to get us to forget about it. Maybe a challenge before the U.S. district court would be a good place for them to open their eyes and see the light. But you're right I should send my video out to all of the state legislators so they can know exactly what they did to harm the press.
desertjournalonline 3 years ago
Taxation is theft the greedy little bastards.
AzraelsJudgement 3 years ago
damn that is such bullsh*t! completely unconstitutional!
DecentralizedTommy 3 years ago
It is and the state has gotten away with it for too long because no one has challenged it. Maybe if I make a bunch of threats and throw stones legislators will wake up and change the law. Maybe I should seek the ACLU's help. I put this out as a feeler to see what kind of input I get. I'm going to send it out to NM press soon so they can digest it too.
1000You2b0001 3 years ago
Hi, Dorothy, I know, so I ended up paying $23,000 or 85% of the total due and they agreed to remove all liens, leaving me the $4,000 balance to pay without further penalty and interest. Question is: does my case fall under an infringement of a free press? I don't think anyone has challenged the NM law in any court and if I were to do so I would go to the US district court for remedy. Or start something to change the state law. What do you think?
desertjournalonline 3 years ago
Thanks for the information.
Once they have put a tax lien on your property
New Mexico will not allow a deal , a lower rate for early pay off.
DorothyDandrich 3 years ago