Dude, you are paranoid. There are literally hundreds of ids from people who think you're a dork. You clealy hate Prefontaine and can't participate in a valid argument about his greatness/speed without resorting to name calling. Baby whiner.
Virén's '72 Olympic 5K victory came from his careful running of almost all the bends (curves) near the inner edge of the first lane, which spared him tens of metres compared to his chief rival Steve Prefontaine-United States. Prefontaine gave Virén a handicap of over forty metres at the 1972 Olympics 5,000 metres. Prefontaine actually ran a 5K distance faster than Viren, but the 40 metres handicap gave Viren the victory. This fact makes it difficult to label Viren a faster runner.
@adamsdg1 But the generation that followed Pre was the utter downfall of American distance running. In this era, where we had greats like Ryun, Liquori, Shorter, Wottle, Rodgers, Salazar, Maree, Wohlhuter, etc... The generation after Pre accomplished nothing in comparison. Could it have something to do with taking inspiration from a man who had zero feats on the international level- a 4th place finish precipitated by suicidal pacing in an Olympic final? Think before saying he's the greatest.
@adamsdg1 Man, shut up! We know what a pathetic moron you are, using several identities to stalk me all afternoon. Okay, Pre is an inspiration to many people; like I said before, I have nothing against Steve Prefontaine, or any runner. Why would I? I do have a problem with Prefontaine's cult worshippers, which you seem to be a member of. Butt munch, HA! You're full of it
Best moment of my life .... 1973 .... we .. small college from Eugene ... won the National Cross Country Champs ... a short while later Coach Bowerman held a luncheon for us at the old Eugene Hotel. He and Pre gave congratulatory/motivational talks and shook our hands ... PRE ... shook our hands ... what a memory.
@qcasadedios Great story, thanks for sharing it here. I too was able to shake his hand, talk with him and get his autograph in the early 70's when I was only a child. Something I'll never forget. Great memories indeed...
@BrianBaldino1 well, i dont believe that Viren was doping either, but the Germans were under suspicion for blood doping in the 70's so you cant say that there were no short cuts in this age....
@MyFreedMan Three (or was it four) of Michael Johnson's teammates were found guilty in Balco... does that mean MJ was guilty? And clarify what you mean by having his "whole team" caught... The only distance runners I can think of are Maaninka confessing and Vaainio being caught... any others? How can you prove Viren's guilt, other than by association?
@MyFreedMan No anwer then? You were lying. Just like everybody else who says that Viren blood doped. Just don't speak again: your reputation has been tarnished by your pathetic vitriol.
pre ran every race like it was the olympics. thats why hes the legend. 100% all the time. not many runners can say that. he won over 80% of the 169 or so races he was in after high school. i love watching the LA times mile in 73 where he runs sub 4 min and beats all the specialists at their own game.
track and field in america is badly lacking today because someone like pre isn't around. we have had and still have great athletes today but no one with close to the charisma and integrity of pre. thats a fact that can't be disputed. you have to admit alot of runners are great but look frail and dorky looking also. the USA is image oriented and that brings popularity. not to say thats right or just but a fact. pre definitely had a look unlike the other runners.
@jonnybravo8 nick is great. however, the 800 is more about speed and less about guts. the 800 at trials at hayward field last year was exciting race. he doesnt have the persona pre had to promote the sport. maybe if he was great at a few more distances and was more outspoken he could fill pre's shoes.
I'm sorry but you are kinda wrong. I run the 800m, and other distances, and let me tell you: 800m is the hardest race I run. Oyes its about guts, guts and being able to run fast with so much pain, the pain in an 800m race is huge. But then, its not that easy for the audience to get who has the guts in 800mn, true. He should loosen up, be more fun. Maybe it will come.
So you consider comments like "VIREN SUCKS ASS!" ones that celebrate Pre? Go ahead and celebrate Pre, but bashing a 4-time Olympic because he beat your boy fair and square serves a purpose other than "commemoration." And another thing: watch who you're calling a douchebag, douchebag.
First of all, who is this "they" you speak of? Is it anyone of real credibility or authority?
Chances are you people are either hopelessly naive or you simply cannot do your research. Viren was never proven to have blood boosted. He won because he had a fantastic aerobic and anaerobic capacity, he prepared well for the olympics, and was a very well-rounded tactician. Neither Pre nor any runner in that era could've conquered that.
@jonnybravo8 Well, if you fail to pose one argument to me, then you're obviously a waste of time. When you're ready to man up and argue with me, then I'll be more than happy to talk to you, but otherwise I'll keep my distance, punkboy.
@jonnybravo8 First of all it wasn't even illegal/ considered cheating in '72 to blood dope. Second, don't make me laugh: no real biography of Lasse Viren says definitively that he took blood boosters; there is no proof. Or does that not matter? You can say what you like, but as you have no proof, you're simply making up lies.
What makes you think Viren cheated? Is it that he was the best, the only repeat 5000m winner in history (as if winning two 10000m wasn't enough)? Is it that you're jealous that Finland, a country of merely 5 million people, has produced runners unmatchable by the United States, a country with 300 million? That their runner beat your boy (who eventually finished fourth)? Grow up little girl! Viren won, Pre lost. Viren lives, Pre dies. If winning = cheating, then Viren is a big, big cheater :)))))
@YiftertheShifter1 Wow buddy I'm not sure why your so pissed off and maybe this guy is just being a jackass but still yes Viren did beat Pre yes Pre did come in fourth but buddy your taking it over the top and it sounding like your comparing countries instead of runners and for the record I do agree with all you've said just don't like the way you've said it
No, I'm just fine. I'm sorry if the way I spoke offended you. It's just when I'm dealing with people who stick with stupid one-liners, I use sensitive information to get them to shut up. I guess I did go over the top on this one...
@YiftertheShifter1 You did a bit but I get what your saying I just didn't want this to get political anyway just out of curiosity are you a runner or a lover of the sport I mean whats your running background?
Anyone who runs balls out the whole race will have a 1 in 10 shot of winning, it is a lot easier to pass the person you are pacing off of or a meter behind, I've passed numerous people with my kick that way, its tactics, Pre used them but not for Munich. I notice everythime I front run it doesn't necessarily work because sometimes I'll get winded or passed in the last 100m, mind you I run 4:18 mile so its not a Olympic pace but every time I race either in amateur races I get passed because of it
you have it all wrong. pre didn't need tactics...he had guts and determination. he would put in his all from start to finish which usually resulted in him beating everyone. but in munic viren was to much
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Viren NEVER admitted to blood doping. NEVER. Viren won, because of his great god-given talent, his training, and his tactics. Blood-doping isn't designed to last long periods of time, and Viren was running at highly competitive levels between April and September that year... so quit spreading this false rumor. There is no proof, other than Viren's phenomenal olympic victories.
No shit, sherlock. Maybe if you produce sufficient proof that he has, I'd believe you. "His whole team," so... guilt by association? Pathetic. Get a book or do some good research before you spew more bullshit onto any public forum.
Why can't any of you Viren bashers produce any solid proof of Viren blood doping? Here's why: you are all a bunch of stubborn, uneducated, close-minded conspiracy theorists. As I said, go read a book or something then learn why I can't accept your phony statements.
Nope you are incorrect, Pre had used tactics, he did it in quite a few races actually, he did it in his Olympic trials, guts and determination only gets you so far, and he knew that. He got better when he started to think it out, he even tried tactics at Munich I think, or he went balls out I don't remember. I don't have it all wrong you do.
actually you are incorrect. pre's tactic was to finish the race using everything he had start to finish. if you are incapable of understanding this then you need to learn more about pre
view my profile. i am a die hard pre fan. i live in a city right next to eugene. my dad ran in college while pre did. pre inspired my dad to become one of the greatest masters runners in the world.
Okay, so what? he did run some tactics and he did some front running, when he got to a professional level, he started to run tactics. You may be a die hard Pre fan but a lot of people are, I know I am, but I actually read up on Pre for splits, his tactics, and miscellaneous. He'd run consecutive 4:25 miles then he'd do what any runner does and pick it up in the last mile and run a 4:08. A true fan would've known that.
i like a quote by ian stewart. " first is first and second is nowhere'' . he then said he should took his medal and threw it in the grandstands. he felt he ran poorly i guess.
Well, he was lucky that Pre faded, having run a poor tactical race in Munich. I wouldn't be too happy if I medalled the way he did, but the fact is that Pre's "guts" were too heavy to move in the last 100 meters. He made a brave effort, I agree; if that is what Pre fans say, then I must say I believe them. If the argument is that he would have certainly won in Montreal, using the same display of reckless courage, I'd have to say they are crazy.
Thats my thing with it. I truly beleive he wold have won in montreal because he would have learned from munich where he ran a totally stupid race. He let the pace go way too slow to the point where Viren easily destroyed him in the last 4oo and stewart was able to catch up.
is pre the last amercan runner who actually had a chance to medal in an olympic 5k? any american since had a real shot? i'm asking. legat got smoked in bejing. really he s a kenyan runner just became american citizen. i think he ran 5 seconds slower than pre at 5k trials at heyward field. no amercan still cant catch pre at trials 36 years later. any information i need to know people?
Third, Lagat was 33, way past his best years (around the age most athletes retire).
Fourth, Lagat had to save something to qualify for the 1500m. Pre, unlike Lagat and Viren, did not try two events; only the one he thought he'd win.
Fifth, Lagat had an achilles tendon injury and a viral infection prior to the games. I don't think he would have won (at least, in the 5K), but he was not at his best health. We'll see in Berlin how he's doing.
Bob Kennedy American Record Holder from Indiana. 12:58.21 He actually lead the 5k at the 1996 Olympics. Ended up getting six but still he is very well respected.
i looked it up bob ran 13:12.35 in atlanta. winning time was 13:07.96 and yeah he was 6th. very respectable runner. i wonder what kind a pacing was happening he ran sub 13 minutes? I believe right now it would take sub12:50 for an american runner to win an olympics. i suppose a situation were an african runner gets citizenship in us like lagat did later in life is what would need to happen. us athletes arent a medal threats right now in middle distance.
Bob Kennedy ran his 12:58.21 in Zurich '96 behind Daniel Komen's 12:45.xx (then the second fastest run), Gebreselassie (sore after Atlanta), and maybe a few others.
thnx for info on bob's 12 58 in zurich. could he run 12 58 u think without a faster runner in field? seems like a time like that for him had the right pacing and weather conditions i'd assume. geb's 12 37 amazes me when i watch. he runs almost mile and half without his pacesetters. even the commentator keeps saying a WR is above him. haile is a machine. haile has every runners respect worldwide.
Well, first it was 12:39 (12:37 by Bekele, the video of which I'm dying to see), but Gebre's run was phenomenal. He was a man with the fitness to run WRs with the devastating turning speed over the final 400 meters. He's without a doubt the greatest there's ever been.
@ww1313 I know this is a year later and all, but Dathan Ritzenheim is a 12:56 5000m time, saw it last year, so nothing on you because of the time frame, but his AR is dropped
@raysalsa1 Ryan Hall got tenth in Beijing, Frank Shorter got a gold in '72 for the marathon and a silver in '76. Tyson Gay just recently beat Usain Bolt, 100m world record holder. There are many good american runners, be careful what you say
@BestRunner100 ryan is excellent but thats a marathon. frank shorter never beat pre as far as i know. tyson is great, but thats sprinting. i was referring to the 3 to 10 k distances. shorter won gold, but he would been hard pressed to even make the 5k final in munich if he tried. no disrespect to frank, but pre was better.
@raysalsa1 Shorter was 5th in the 10000m final, so I wouldn't say that he hasn't the ability to make the final of the 5000m. I think at some points he was ranked pretty high up in the 5000m (in the US). Even so, that Shorter can even compete with Pre over 3 miles while being a top marathon competitor shows quite a range. In today's age, most top class marathon runners can't compete in events lower than 10K.
@YiftertheShifter1 FOTtrack documentary there is a 10minute interview with frank. pre called frank up on phone to ask him to run in the finnish meet at hayward field which was the day died. pre won that 5k in 13:23 which dismantled the whole field including frank. frank said there was no way at that time he was going to be able to be competitive with pre at the 3mile/5k. hey i like and respect frank also, but lets face it no american could compete with pre at that distance. shorter was great.
@raysalsa1 I thought their race was over 3 miles- Pre won in 12:51, Shorter was second in 12:52. I don't know if this is true, but Shorter's official PB is 12:52 over 3 miles.
@YiftertheShifter1 pre's last last race was a 5k with frank. frank had just had teeth pulled i think a day or 2 before. Frank wasn't at his best, but neither was pre. he had been doing alot organizing and less training for the finn meet in the preceeding 4 weeks. they had run at coos bay,madras,hayward field etc. the 12:51 race there was tailwind so pre and frank took turns each lap drafting each other to go for the AR. ken moore and phil knight talk about how thats the one pre should have lost.
Hehehehehehe... And I noticed that you're not replying directly to my comments... afraid to argue with me?
And you know what, you were right: Viren was lucky. Lucky that God gave him such a talent. And so was Pre: he died before he could prove my statement correct. And I stand by what I said: if Pre fared 4th while 8 meters ahead of the next runner coming off the final bend in a race which has seen only the fastest kicker win, he'd have no chance in the more competitive Montreal field.
Arguing about what would of happened in Montreal had pre not died is idiotic on both sides. No one knows what would of happened. You can't speculate anything.
Wow! I see the Viren worshipers still feel a need to spit on Pre's grave. Why, after nearly 40 years, are you guys still so defensive of Viren and debasing of Pre? Ya'll doth protest too much!
Pre's participation in the '76 games would have changed the outcome significantly. Not saying he would have won, but definitely would have pushed that last mile in the 3:55 range. The "milers" would've lost contact, making it just Viren and Pre in the last lap. The learning curve favored Pre.
Wow! And I see Pre worshipers still feel a need to be sore losers as to the unfavorable outcome of the '72 and '76 5K. Why, nearly after nearly 40 years, are you guys still so stubbornly denying Viren's victory over Pre? Ya'll protest too much!
Pre would not have even medalled in the '76 games, not changed the outcome at all, merely exhausting himself, and ran the last mile no faster than 4 minutes. Nature favors Viren.
And I do not worship Viren, FYI. Telling you an inconvenient truth that happens to congratulate Viren for what HE ACTUALLY DID DO, versus what Pre or anybody else woulda, coulda, shoulda is not worship.
imagine how many meters bekele would beat these guys by? almost lap them i think. watch haile gebereselassies 5000m world record. talk about having to front run half of the race. it will blow your mind.
Raysalsa, much as I respect both Bekele and Geb, we have to remember that they are an era way beyond that of the 1970s, where tracks, training methods, and pacing is a lot different. Geb, in his 5000m WR, was frontrunning a field whose talent was nowhere near his own, not a championship field (where he usually sits behind the leader's shoulder). While he may have a PR way faster than Viren and Pre... their olympic record are nowhere near Viren's.
whats amazing is pre's dream 3 mile was 12:36. so that would be around 13 flat for 5k. pre couldnt have even envisioned a 12 37 5k. by the way i just saw the fire on the track with 3.5 hours of bonus footage of interviews of pre's friends, competitors, and coaches. it's a must see for anyone interested in sport and competition. if u get a chance watch it people. great documentary with no hollywood. or as i like to call it hollywierd.
First, Pre's "dream 3 mile" is absolute BS. I dream of running 5K in under 13 minutes, but that doesn't mean I can actually do it. His PR is 12:51, which was good, but he'd have to do a lot of work to get down there.
Second, 12:36 equates to 13:07/8 for 5K, not 13 flat. That would still be much faster than the then WR, but 13 seconds faster than Pre's PR of 13:21.8... sounds a little... unrealistic.
they put 12 36 on the clock at his eulogy at heyward field because that was his goal. 12 laps at 63 second pace thats the idea. will never know what he could have done. i wont say he would won in montreal like many others. however the first 2 miles would been faster than in munich. watch fire on the track and 3 hours of interviews. I guarentee u will like it. it's not like the the 2 hollywood film's about him. the stories are great in bonus footage. the actual documenntary in about 1 hr.
I'm of course not contesting anything about the race. Pre was fourth best on that day, but we all know the courage it would have taken for Viren to be part of his team the day they accepted Pre's challenge, and Viren did not.....I'm of course , still waiting for the answer of Viren's ...."mysterious" injury", where he shunned his team, and ran away from Pre's challenge. .....(very impressive).
"Viren goes for home, Gammoudi is bankrupt, SO TO IS PREFONTAINE... and the Finn goes in now for his second gold medal, and Stewart with the late run! THE FINN WINS, Gammoudi second, Stewart gets the bronze, PREFONTAINE DIES IN THE FINAL STRIDES."
Courage is also when you are challenged, and your team goes, and you had the guts to show up. Oh, sorry, that's when Viren chickened out. Facts are facts. Guess not all runners are as tough as Pre, but few were.
Gosh, I guess Viren, Gammoudi, and Stewart are all empty inside because Steve ran a good XC race, and all they have are Olympic medals. I wonder how they even wake up in the morning. LMAO!
Paula Radcliffe ran in the New York Marathon with someone drafting off her for 24 and a half miles, until she looked back at the drafter who was right behind her, and challenged her to take the lead......the drafter knew she had just been humiliated by Paula, and tried to challenge Paula by taking the lead and she held the lead about a half mile until Paula passed her for good. The drafter wanted to win, but she didn't want to expose herself as a chicken for all the world to see.....smart move.
not only did Viren not want to race Pre when the entire Finland team came to the U.S., and Viren hid, but you would have to look long and hard to find anyone who would want to race Pre in a Cross Country race......He was just too tough.
1. Viren did not chicken out of Pre's challenge, he was injured.
2. Pre proved he couldn't be "tough" when he was tested at the highest level, the Munich Olympics. Viren proved that he had the courage, guts, and speed to beat Pre and the rest of the world in four unduplicable performance, all undisputably worthy of gold medals. Pre lost. Viren won. The story ends there, now quit tarnishing one of the greatest olympic athletes in history.
Oh sure, right, Viren was injured when the rest of his team went west for Prefontaine's challenge, and yet, Viren had another one of his mysterious injuries. It of course figures that you can't even be specific about Viren's injury, because even he couldn't. The injury is called no courage, and it's a tough injury do deal with if you have to race someone as tough as Prefontaine.
Alright fine, I'll be specific. Viren pulled his left hamstring muscle. "We were in Lapland, in a training camp. Lasse had to hold ice on his leg three times a day. Once he ran too hard and the next morning he could hardly stand. Lasse threw his running shoes right into the lake. I went to him...." This was said by his coach.
You Pre fanatics really are thick, especially when it comes to discrediting Viren; I'm sorry your little hero left without a single WR or major title to his name, but to discredit an athlete on par (in Olympic golds in non-defunct events) with Paavo Nurmi, Emil Zatopek, etc... simply speaks to how low people like you have become. If you know courage, let Viren hear all the BS you have to say about Pre, a runner he clearly outraced 37 years ago, so much as you speak of his "toughness."
Pre was an amazing runner and ill always admire him. but in my opinion Viren beat him fair and square in Munich. Pre would say that he pushed himself to the max. the one who has the most guts is the one who is the most tired. thats why running is great. you dont have to place good to feel good. you just have to know you gave it all. and if you didnt. you wish you would have.
As a fan of the front runner's creed, I don't have a problem with Viren winning, or Gamoudi coming in second, their tactics were fine. Ian Stewart may deserve the bronze, but he did not share the lead in the last mile the way Viren, Gamoudi, and Prefontaine did, which even Stewart admits his race was not as impressive as Pre's......"the way I ran, I don't deserve a medal." Those were Ian Stewart's words, because he acknowledged he never shared the lead.
"Share"? Oops, I must be wrong. I thought the goal was to win. I guess the three medalists had it all wrong. Sorry. I see that they all would have rather had fourth places. Better go tell all of the high school runners.
ive watched the end of this race many times. look closely during the last lap at 12:57 pre's head turns to the right twds the stands. almost like looking for something thats not there that day. maybe a kick needed to win? that precise moment i think he realizes he is beat this time. afterall he hardly ever lost at middle distance. Any expert opinions have a view different? Please comment about 12 57 during the race.
have you never seen gladiator? this song is perfect its celebrating his wonderful yet brief life. showing his fantastic talent and spirit. and the song is appily named 'now we are free' (i think anyways)
Really dude? I swear to fucking God, your life is coming onto YouTube and preaching to kids who find Pre as an inspiration on how Viren was so fucking cool. Nobody cares.
Yifter's country boycotted the "76" olympic games, and you still want to do a metal count? Viren boycotted a Finland trip to the U.S. because Prefontaine would have kicked his arse.
He was not just a runner,he was more than that...and we dont count his 4th place in munchen,he was under the bigg stres because of terorists and the whole thing that happened at the olimpic games,but most of the people dont understand that.
its munich not munchen but anyways ya he ran a faster time than the winner of that race before. its because the pace of the race was too slow and since he couldnt out sprint the other people he came in 4th.
Dude, you are paranoid. There are literally hundreds of ids from people who think you're a dork. You clealy hate Prefontaine and can't participate in a valid argument about his greatness/speed without resorting to name calling. Baby whiner.
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Virén's '72 Olympic 5K victory came from his careful running of almost all the bends (curves) near the inner edge of the first lane, which spared him tens of metres compared to his chief rival Steve Prefontaine-United States. Prefontaine gave Virén a handicap of over forty metres at the 1972 Olympics 5,000 metres. Prefontaine actually ran a 5K distance faster than Viren, but the 40 metres handicap gave Viren the victory. This fact makes it difficult to label Viren a faster runner.
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In "Fire On The Track" Bill Bowerman states that Pre later (after '72 Olympics) beat Viren. Anyone know if this is true?
batchannel1981 1 day ago
13:12 in memory of Steve Prefontaine
bikerkid1617 2 months ago
i can only imagine what he would have done had he lived a full life. running as we know it would be completely different.
stevemehne 6 months ago
A hero in my book!
Ladysensei 6 months ago
Lasse Viren disliked the video...
devilman819 7 months ago 7
@devilman819 oh man, too funny, this needs to be voted up
TFCB0Y 3 months ago
Great video
TheBradearl 8 months ago
whats the name of the song please??
Mr599715 1 year ago
Prefontaine has inpired many generations of runners. He's the greatest!
adamsdg1 1 year ago
@adamsdg1 But the generation that followed Pre was the utter downfall of American distance running. In this era, where we had greats like Ryun, Liquori, Shorter, Wottle, Rodgers, Salazar, Maree, Wohlhuter, etc... The generation after Pre accomplished nothing in comparison. Could it have something to do with taking inspiration from a man who had zero feats on the international level- a 4th place finish precipitated by suicidal pacing in an Olympic final? Think before saying he's the greatest.
YiftertheShifter1 1 year ago
@YiftertheShifter1 You finally admit that generations took inspiration from Pre. Pre's the greatest!!! YiftertheSnifter is a butt munch!!! Go Pre!!!
adamsdg1 1 day ago
@adamsdg1 Man, shut up! We know what a pathetic moron you are, using several identities to stalk me all afternoon. Okay, Pre is an inspiration to many people; like I said before, I have nothing against Steve Prefontaine, or any runner. Why would I? I do have a problem with Prefontaine's cult worshippers, which you seem to be a member of. Butt munch, HA! You're full of it
YiftertheShifter1 1 day ago
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adadogensco 1 day ago
Best moment of my life .... 1973 .... we .. small college from Eugene ... won the National Cross Country Champs ... a short while later Coach Bowerman held a luncheon for us at the old Eugene Hotel. He and Pre gave congratulatory/motivational talks and shook our hands ... PRE ... shook our hands ... what a memory.
qcasadedios 1 year ago 2
@qcasadedios Great story, thanks for sharing it here. I too was able to shake his hand, talk with him and get his autograph in the early 70's when I was only a child. Something I'll never forget. Great memories indeed...
virnman 1 year ago
what is the name of the song at the end?
ucg19 1 year ago
Steve Prefontaine was queer for Dave Wottle.
yomamakunt 1 year ago
@yomamakunt
Screw you fa gg ot.
qcasadedios 1 year ago
he is a legend and i will be better live on PRE
PRE FOREVER
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i wonder what fagget hit the dislike button on this video.
sjd2112 1 year ago
@YiftertheShifter1 Look who's talking.
SuttonSantiniPaulo 1 year ago 2
@SuttonSantiniPaulo hahahaaaa i love it
JCDrums19 1 year ago
Viren was a meaningless robot. Pre was an inspiration. End of story.
bmp713 1 year ago
What is the name of the first song? excellent video. Stevie forever
ironpi 1 year ago
@ironpi ...Now We Are Free... by Hans Zimmer
abellando 1 year ago
idolo indiscutido!! muchos deberían tenerlo como un ejemplo de valentia y dedicacion!!
pangruyo 1 year ago
Pre you live forever..
roverstreet26 1 year ago
I get the shivers evertime i watch this
DoretoMan123454 1 year ago 4
Pre is really flying at 0:31.
BrianBaldino1 2 years ago
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Viren was doping...race wouldve played out completely different if he wasnt
jwing51015 2 years ago
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YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
I like to think Viren was doping, but my instincts tell me he wasn't.
The 70's was the best era for running, it was before all the performance enhancing drugs.
Pre was the best though.
BrianBaldino1 2 years ago 12
@BrianBaldino1 well, i dont believe that Viren was doping either, but the Germans were under suspicion for blood doping in the 70's so you cant say that there were no short cuts in this age....
chiefshakenbake 1 year ago
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lasse viren's whole team was later found to be doping... this puts him in quite the spot doesnt it?
MyFreedMan 1 year ago
@MyFreedMan Three (or was it four) of Michael Johnson's teammates were found guilty in Balco... does that mean MJ was guilty? And clarify what you mean by having his "whole team" caught... The only distance runners I can think of are Maaninka confessing and Vaainio being caught... any others? How can you prove Viren's guilt, other than by association?
YiftertheShifter1 1 year ago
@MyFreedMan Please show everyone where "lasse viren's whole team was later found to be doping". We eagerly wait your proof.
VirenKickedPresAss 1 year ago
@MyFreedMan No anwer then? You were lying. Just like everybody else who says that Viren blood doped. Just don't speak again: your reputation has been tarnished by your pathetic vitriol.
YiftertheShifter1 1 year ago
@jwing51015 Never say something you can't prove, and you obviously have no proof that Viren blood doped.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
The last song is Mad World by Michael Andrews and Gary Jules.
renandgeri 2 years ago
If anyone knows, would they be kind enough to post the names of the tunes that go with this compiliation.
niceguyneko 2 years ago
@niceguyneko
Now We Are Free from the Gladiator soundtrack.
JustinK078 2 years ago
pre ran every race like it was the olympics. thats why hes the legend. 100% all the time. not many runners can say that. he won over 80% of the 169 or so races he was in after high school. i love watching the LA times mile in 73 where he runs sub 4 min and beats all the specialists at their own game.
raysalsa1 2 years ago 18
what is the name of this song, cause i gthink it got replaced
milesthekirts 2 years ago
i run for health and to reach 100 years old
he ran for fun and only lived to 24,
strange world.
aknowneemus 2 years ago
track and field in america is badly lacking today because someone like pre isn't around. we have had and still have great athletes today but no one with close to the charisma and integrity of pre. thats a fact that can't be disputed. you have to admit alot of runners are great but look frail and dorky looking also. the USA is image oriented and that brings popularity. not to say thats right or just but a fact. pre definitely had a look unlike the other runners.
raysalsa1 2 years ago
what about nick symmonds? hes kinda like a pre in modern times, only running 800m..and a oregon runner!
jonnybravo8 2 years ago
@jonnybravo8 nick is great. however, the 800 is more about speed and less about guts. the 800 at trials at hayward field last year was exciting race. he doesnt have the persona pre had to promote the sport. maybe if he was great at a few more distances and was more outspoken he could fill pre's shoes.
raysalsa1 2 years ago
I'm sorry but you are kinda wrong. I run the 800m, and other distances, and let me tell you: 800m is the hardest race I run. Oyes its about guts, guts and being able to run fast with so much pain, the pain in an 800m race is huge. But then, its not that easy for the audience to get who has the guts in 800mn, true. He should loosen up, be more fun. Maybe it will come.
jonnybravo8 2 years ago
VIREN SUCKS ASS!
cala22runner 2 years ago
Correction: Viren KICKS ass (and I emphasize the word "kick" there).
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Wow Yifter, do you have anything better to do than go around Steve Prefontaine's videos and bash him? We watch this to celebrate Pre, not Viren.
idntrmmbr 2 years ago
So you consider comments like "VIREN SUCKS ASS!" ones that celebrate Pre? Go ahead and celebrate Pre, but bashing a 4-time Olympic because he beat your boy fair and square serves a purpose other than "commemoration." And another thing: watch who you're calling a douchebag, douchebag.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
No, I do not. I didn't say I was bashing Viren, I just think you should talk about Viren on his videos, not Pre's.
idntrmmbr 2 years ago 2
Well then tell your friends not to tempt me to.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
they say viren used blood boosters for better performance.
runninglife2843 2 years ago
First of all, who is this "they" you speak of? Is it anyone of real credibility or authority?
Chances are you people are either hopelessly naive or you simply cannot do your research. Viren was never proven to have blood boosted. He won because he had a fantastic aerobic and anaerobic capacity, he prepared well for the olympics, and was a very well-rounded tactician. Neither Pre nor any runner in that era could've conquered that.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
viren was a doper, face it little girl
jonnybravo8 2 years ago
@jonnybravo8 Prove it asshole. The only thing I see is that you're disappointed that Viren kicked your boy's ass... big time.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
lol
jonnybravo8 2 years ago
@jonnybravo8 Gonna take a lot more than lol to prove yourself to me.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
nobody cares about you. you are just funny stupid
jonnybravo8 2 years ago
@jonnybravo8 Well, if you fail to pose one argument to me, then you're obviously a waste of time. When you're ready to man up and argue with me, then I'll be more than happy to talk to you, but otherwise I'll keep my distance, punkboy.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
He was a cheater. Everybody knows, face it.
jonnybravo8 2 years ago
@jonnybravo8 First of all it wasn't even illegal/ considered cheating in '72 to blood dope. Second, don't make me laugh: no real biography of Lasse Viren says definitively that he took blood boosters; there is no proof. Or does that not matter? You can say what you like, but as you have no proof, you're simply making up lies.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
What makes you think Viren cheated? Is it that he was the best, the only repeat 5000m winner in history (as if winning two 10000m wasn't enough)? Is it that you're jealous that Finland, a country of merely 5 million people, has produced runners unmatchable by the United States, a country with 300 million? That their runner beat your boy (who eventually finished fourth)? Grow up little girl! Viren won, Pre lost. Viren lives, Pre dies. If winning = cheating, then Viren is a big, big cheater :)))))
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
@YiftertheShifter1 Wow buddy I'm not sure why your so pissed off and maybe this guy is just being a jackass but still yes Viren did beat Pre yes Pre did come in fourth but buddy your taking it over the top and it sounding like your comparing countries instead of runners and for the record I do agree with all you've said just don't like the way you've said it
USMC77777 2 years ago
No, I'm just fine. I'm sorry if the way I spoke offended you. It's just when I'm dealing with people who stick with stupid one-liners, I use sensitive information to get them to shut up. I guess I did go over the top on this one...
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
@YiftertheShifter1 You did a bit but I get what your saying I just didn't want this to get political anyway just out of curiosity are you a runner or a lover of the sport I mean whats your running background?
USMC77777 2 years ago
Everyone who has any involvement in running or running history knows Viren was Blood Doping.
polarp69 2 years ago
Wow, you are a big idiot. Thanks for telling us the most generalized piece of bullshit ever conceivable.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
PRE !
BrianBaldino1 2 years ago
beautiful
BlueEliminator1 2 years ago
New American record held by Dathan Ritzenheim is 12:56 beating the old 5000 meter record.
thefallen2124 2 years ago
that is crazy!
maxandsunny126 2 years ago
Anyone who runs balls out the whole race will have a 1 in 10 shot of winning, it is a lot easier to pass the person you are pacing off of or a meter behind, I've passed numerous people with my kick that way, its tactics, Pre used them but not for Munich. I notice everythime I front run it doesn't necessarily work because sometimes I'll get winded or passed in the last 100m, mind you I run 4:18 mile so its not a Olympic pace but every time I race either in amateur races I get passed because of it
thefallen2124 2 years ago
you have it all wrong. pre didn't need tactics...he had guts and determination. he would put in his all from start to finish which usually resulted in him beating everyone. but in munic viren was to much
someguynamedaaron 2 years ago
the only reason why Viren won was because he was blood doping... he admited to it later.
Pre would have placed in munich, not saying he would have won but he would have finished 3rd
gautlet996 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Viren NEVER admitted to blood doping. NEVER. Viren won, because of his great god-given talent, his training, and his tactics. Blood-doping isn't designed to last long periods of time, and Viren was running at highly competitive levels between April and September that year... so quit spreading this false rumor. There is no proof, other than Viren's phenomenal olympic victories.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
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gautlet996 2 years ago
No shit, sherlock. Maybe if you produce sufficient proof that he has, I'd believe you. "His whole team," so... guilt by association? Pathetic. Get a book or do some good research before you spew more bullshit onto any public forum.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Why can't any of you Viren bashers produce any solid proof of Viren blood doping? Here's why: you are all a bunch of stubborn, uneducated, close-minded conspiracy theorists. As I said, go read a book or something then learn why I can't accept your phony statements.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Nope you are incorrect, Pre had used tactics, he did it in quite a few races actually, he did it in his Olympic trials, guts and determination only gets you so far, and he knew that. He got better when he started to think it out, he even tried tactics at Munich I think, or he went balls out I don't remember. I don't have it all wrong you do.
thefallen2124 2 years ago
actually you are incorrect. pre's tactic was to finish the race using everything he had start to finish. if you are incapable of understanding this then you need to learn more about pre
someguynamedaaron 2 years ago
If you assume this then I doubt you know much about Pre, watching a movie is different then reading up on him.
thefallen2124 2 years ago 2
view my profile. i am a die hard pre fan. i live in a city right next to eugene. my dad ran in college while pre did. pre inspired my dad to become one of the greatest masters runners in the world.
someguynamedaaron 2 years ago
Okay, so what? he did run some tactics and he did some front running, when he got to a professional level, he started to run tactics. You may be a die hard Pre fan but a lot of people are, I know I am, but I actually read up on Pre for splits, his tactics, and miscellaneous. He'd run consecutive 4:25 miles then he'd do what any runner does and pick it up in the last mile and run a 4:08. A true fan would've known that.
thefallen2124 2 years ago
i like a quote by ian stewart. " first is first and second is nowhere'' . he then said he should took his medal and threw it in the grandstands. he felt he ran poorly i guess.
raysalsa1 2 years ago
Well, he was lucky that Pre faded, having run a poor tactical race in Munich. I wouldn't be too happy if I medalled the way he did, but the fact is that Pre's "guts" were too heavy to move in the last 100 meters. He made a brave effort, I agree; if that is what Pre fans say, then I must say I believe them. If the argument is that he would have certainly won in Montreal, using the same display of reckless courage, I'd have to say they are crazy.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Thats my thing with it. I truly beleive he wold have won in montreal because he would have learned from munich where he ran a totally stupid race. He let the pace go way too slow to the point where Viren easily destroyed him in the last 4oo and stewart was able to catch up.
Winston408 2 years ago
is pre the last amercan runner who actually had a chance to medal in an olympic 5k? any american since had a real shot? i'm asking. legat got smoked in bejing. really he s a kenyan runner just became american citizen. i think he ran 5 seconds slower than pre at 5k trials at heyward field. no amercan still cant catch pre at trials 36 years later. any information i need to know people?
raysalsa1 2 years ago
Third, Lagat was 33, way past his best years (around the age most athletes retire).
Fourth, Lagat had to save something to qualify for the 1500m. Pre, unlike Lagat and Viren, did not try two events; only the one he thought he'd win.
Fifth, Lagat had an achilles tendon injury and a viral infection prior to the games. I don't think he would have won (at least, in the 5K), but he was not at his best health. We'll see in Berlin how he's doing.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Bob Kennedy American Record Holder from Indiana. 12:58.21 He actually lead the 5k at the 1996 Olympics. Ended up getting six but still he is very well respected.
ww1313 2 years ago
i looked it up bob ran 13:12.35 in atlanta. winning time was 13:07.96 and yeah he was 6th. very respectable runner. i wonder what kind a pacing was happening he ran sub 13 minutes? I believe right now it would take sub12:50 for an american runner to win an olympics. i suppose a situation were an african runner gets citizenship in us like lagat did later in life is what would need to happen. us athletes arent a medal threats right now in middle distance.
raysalsa1 2 years ago
Bob Kennedy ran his 12:58.21 in Zurich '96 behind Daniel Komen's 12:45.xx (then the second fastest run), Gebreselassie (sore after Atlanta), and maybe a few others.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
thnx for info on bob's 12 58 in zurich. could he run 12 58 u think without a faster runner in field? seems like a time like that for him had the right pacing and weather conditions i'd assume. geb's 12 37 amazes me when i watch. he runs almost mile and half without his pacesetters. even the commentator keeps saying a WR is above him. haile is a machine. haile has every runners respect worldwide.
raysalsa1 2 years ago
Well, first it was 12:39 (12:37 by Bekele, the video of which I'm dying to see), but Gebre's run was phenomenal. He was a man with the fitness to run WRs with the devastating turning speed over the final 400 meters. He's without a doubt the greatest there's ever been.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
it would take more than a sub 12:50,
the WR is 12:37, and the holder probably doesn't want to lose a gold for a lack of effort
SomethingHeavenly 2 years ago
Well, BK is no longer the record holder... Newsflash.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
@ww1313 I know this is a year later and all, but Dathan Ritzenheim is a 12:56 5000m time, saw it last year, so nothing on you because of the time frame, but his AR is dropped
thefallen2124 11 months ago
@thefallen2124 Bernard Lagat now has the American Record at 12:54 and Chris Solinsky also has a PB of 12:55.
YiftertheShifter1 11 months ago
@raysalsa1
ritz?
XFactor132 1 year ago
@XFactor132 dathan ritzenhein is the top us distance runner right now. with matt tegenkamp also in the mix.
raysalsa1 1 year ago
@raysalsa1 Ryan Hall got tenth in Beijing, Frank Shorter got a gold in '72 for the marathon and a silver in '76. Tyson Gay just recently beat Usain Bolt, 100m world record holder. There are many good american runners, be careful what you say
BestRunner100 9 months ago
@BestRunner100 ryan is excellent but thats a marathon. frank shorter never beat pre as far as i know. tyson is great, but thats sprinting. i was referring to the 3 to 10 k distances. shorter won gold, but he would been hard pressed to even make the 5k final in munich if he tried. no disrespect to frank, but pre was better.
raysalsa1 9 months ago
@raysalsa1 Shorter was 5th in the 10000m final, so I wouldn't say that he hasn't the ability to make the final of the 5000m. I think at some points he was ranked pretty high up in the 5000m (in the US). Even so, that Shorter can even compete with Pre over 3 miles while being a top marathon competitor shows quite a range. In today's age, most top class marathon runners can't compete in events lower than 10K.
YiftertheShifter1 8 months ago
@YiftertheShifter1 FOTtrack documentary there is a 10minute interview with frank. pre called frank up on phone to ask him to run in the finnish meet at hayward field which was the day died. pre won that 5k in 13:23 which dismantled the whole field including frank. frank said there was no way at that time he was going to be able to be competitive with pre at the 3mile/5k. hey i like and respect frank also, but lets face it no american could compete with pre at that distance. shorter was great.
raysalsa1 8 months ago
@raysalsa1 I thought their race was over 3 miles- Pre won in 12:51, Shorter was second in 12:52. I don't know if this is true, but Shorter's official PB is 12:52 over 3 miles.
YiftertheShifter1 8 months ago
@YiftertheShifter1 pre's last last race was a 5k with frank. frank had just had teeth pulled i think a day or 2 before. Frank wasn't at his best, but neither was pre. he had been doing alot organizing and less training for the finn meet in the preceeding 4 weeks. they had run at coos bay,madras,hayward field etc. the 12:51 race there was tailwind so pre and frank took turns each lap drafting each other to go for the AR. ken moore and phil knight talk about how thats the one pre should have lost.
raysalsa1 8 months ago
Specificity of training. Learn it, live it, love it.
futuremodal 2 years ago
"Pre would not have even medalled in the '76 games, not changed the outcome at all"
Such idiotic statements, but that's what we get for trying to reason with a fool.
futuremodal 2 years ago
Hehehehehehe... And I noticed that you're not replying directly to my comments... afraid to argue with me?
And you know what, you were right: Viren was lucky. Lucky that God gave him such a talent. And so was Pre: he died before he could prove my statement correct. And I stand by what I said: if Pre fared 4th while 8 meters ahead of the next runner coming off the final bend in a race which has seen only the fastest kicker win, he'd have no chance in the more competitive Montreal field.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Arguing about what would of happened in Montreal had pre not died is idiotic on both sides. No one knows what would of happened. You can't speculate anything.
Kalanioccc 2 years ago
I hate it when people think they actually know something about somebody.
CrazzzzyTrain 2 years ago
Wow! I see the Viren worshipers still feel a need to spit on Pre's grave. Why, after nearly 40 years, are you guys still so defensive of Viren and debasing of Pre? Ya'll doth protest too much!
Pre's participation in the '76 games would have changed the outcome significantly. Not saying he would have won, but definitely would have pushed that last mile in the 3:55 range. The "milers" would've lost contact, making it just Viren and Pre in the last lap. The learning curve favored Pre.
futuremodal 2 years ago
Wow! And I see Pre worshipers still feel a need to be sore losers as to the unfavorable outcome of the '72 and '76 5K. Why, nearly after nearly 40 years, are you guys still so stubbornly denying Viren's victory over Pre? Ya'll protest too much!
Pre would not have even medalled in the '76 games, not changed the outcome at all, merely exhausting himself, and ran the last mile no faster than 4 minutes. Nature favors Viren.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
why is the 76 unfavorable? the only unfavorable thing s that we'll never know how Pre would have done. and who is denying that Viren won?
Winston408 2 years ago
And I do not worship Viren, FYI. Telling you an inconvenient truth that happens to congratulate Viren for what HE ACTUALLY DID DO, versus what Pre or anybody else woulda, coulda, shoulda is not worship.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
imagine how many meters bekele would beat these guys by? almost lap them i think. watch haile gebereselassies 5000m world record. talk about having to front run half of the race. it will blow your mind.
raysalsa1 2 years ago
Raysalsa, much as I respect both Bekele and Geb, we have to remember that they are an era way beyond that of the 1970s, where tracks, training methods, and pacing is a lot different. Geb, in his 5000m WR, was frontrunning a field whose talent was nowhere near his own, not a championship field (where he usually sits behind the leader's shoulder). While he may have a PR way faster than Viren and Pre... their olympic record are nowhere near Viren's.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
whats amazing is pre's dream 3 mile was 12:36. so that would be around 13 flat for 5k. pre couldnt have even envisioned a 12 37 5k. by the way i just saw the fire on the track with 3.5 hours of bonus footage of interviews of pre's friends, competitors, and coaches. it's a must see for anyone interested in sport and competition. if u get a chance watch it people. great documentary with no hollywood. or as i like to call it hollywierd.
raysalsa1 2 years ago
First, Pre's "dream 3 mile" is absolute BS. I dream of running 5K in under 13 minutes, but that doesn't mean I can actually do it. His PR is 12:51, which was good, but he'd have to do a lot of work to get down there.
Second, 12:36 equates to 13:07/8 for 5K, not 13 flat. That would still be much faster than the then WR, but 13 seconds faster than Pre's PR of 13:21.8... sounds a little... unrealistic.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
they put 12 36 on the clock at his eulogy at heyward field because that was his goal. 12 laps at 63 second pace thats the idea. will never know what he could have done. i wont say he would won in montreal like many others. however the first 2 miles would been faster than in munich. watch fire on the track and 3 hours of interviews. I guarentee u will like it. it's not like the the 2 hollywood film's about him. the stories are great in bonus footage. the actual documenntary in about 1 hr.
raysalsa1 2 years ago
I'm of course not contesting anything about the race. Pre was fourth best on that day, but we all know the courage it would have taken for Viren to be part of his team the day they accepted Pre's challenge, and Viren did not.....I'm of course , still waiting for the answer of Viren's ...."mysterious" injury", where he shunned his team, and ran away from Pre's challenge. .....(very impressive).
springsteel333 2 years ago
Ghost from the past:
"Viren goes for home, Gammoudi is bankrupt, SO TO IS PREFONTAINE... and the Finn goes in now for his second gold medal, and Stewart with the late run! THE FINN WINS, Gammoudi second, Stewart gets the bronze, PREFONTAINE DIES IN THE FINAL STRIDES."
Just in case you had forgotten.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Courage is also when you are challenged, and your team goes, and you had the guts to show up. Oh, sorry, that's when Viren chickened out. Facts are facts. Guess not all runners are as tough as Pre, but few were.
springsteel333 2 years ago
But at least they have MEDALS.
VirenKickedPresAss 2 years ago
They have "medals", they just don't have the same metal, Pre had. Just watch a Pre x-country race, you'll see what I mean.
springsteel333 2 years ago
Gosh, I guess Viren, Gammoudi, and Stewart are all empty inside because Steve ran a good XC race, and all they have are Olympic medals. I wonder how they even wake up in the morning. LMAO!
VirenKickedPresAss 2 years ago
mettle*
jesdunk 2 years ago
Medal*
thefallen2124 2 years ago
Paula Radcliffe ran in the New York Marathon with someone drafting off her for 24 and a half miles, until she looked back at the drafter who was right behind her, and challenged her to take the lead......the drafter knew she had just been humiliated by Paula, and tried to challenge Paula by taking the lead and she held the lead about a half mile until Paula passed her for good. The drafter wanted to win, but she didn't want to expose herself as a chicken for all the world to see.....smart move.
springsteel333 2 years ago
not only did Viren not want to race Pre when the entire Finland team came to the U.S., and Viren hid, but you would have to look long and hard to find anyone who would want to race Pre in a Cross Country race......He was just too tough.
springsteel333 2 years ago
1. Viren did not chicken out of Pre's challenge, he was injured.
2. Pre proved he couldn't be "tough" when he was tested at the highest level, the Munich Olympics. Viren proved that he had the courage, guts, and speed to beat Pre and the rest of the world in four unduplicable performance, all undisputably worthy of gold medals. Pre lost. Viren won. The story ends there, now quit tarnishing one of the greatest olympic athletes in history.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Oh sure, right, Viren was injured when the rest of his team went west for Prefontaine's challenge, and yet, Viren had another one of his mysterious injuries. It of course figures that you can't even be specific about Viren's injury, because even he couldn't. The injury is called no courage, and it's a tough injury do deal with if you have to race someone as tough as Prefontaine.
springsteel333 2 years ago
Alright fine, I'll be specific. Viren pulled his left hamstring muscle. "We were in Lapland, in a training camp. Lasse had to hold ice on his leg three times a day. Once he ran too hard and the next morning he could hardly stand. Lasse threw his running shoes right into the lake. I went to him...." This was said by his coach.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
You Pre fanatics really are thick, especially when it comes to discrediting Viren; I'm sorry your little hero left without a single WR or major title to his name, but to discredit an athlete on par (in Olympic golds in non-defunct events) with Paavo Nurmi, Emil Zatopek, etc... simply speaks to how low people like you have become. If you know courage, let Viren hear all the BS you have to say about Pre, a runner he clearly outraced 37 years ago, so much as you speak of his "toughness."
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Pre was an amazing runner and ill always admire him. but in my opinion Viren beat him fair and square in Munich. Pre would say that he pushed himself to the max. the one who has the most guts is the one who is the most tired. thats why running is great. you dont have to place good to feel good. you just have to know you gave it all. and if you didnt. you wish you would have.
applesaz 2 years ago
As a fan of the front runner's creed, I don't have a problem with Viren winning, or Gamoudi coming in second, their tactics were fine. Ian Stewart may deserve the bronze, but he did not share the lead in the last mile the way Viren, Gamoudi, and Prefontaine did, which even Stewart admits his race was not as impressive as Pre's......"the way I ran, I don't deserve a medal." Those were Ian Stewart's words, because he acknowledged he never shared the lead.
springsteel333 2 years ago
"Share"? Oops, I must be wrong. I thought the goal was to win. I guess the three medalists had it all wrong. Sorry. I see that they all would have rather had fourth places. Better go tell all of the high school runners.
VirenKickedPresAss 2 years ago
hes so right.
its not how fast you try to go. its how hard you make it hurt.
cuz if you do that then your going fast
applesaz 2 years ago
Viren beat Pre fair and square but Pre's time in this was better then Viren's olympic time, their both amazing athletes lets not bash either of them.
thefallen2124 2 years ago
Nice work! What an icon that guy is, especially for someone who came of age in the '70s--like me.
lbcog1 2 years ago
ive watched the end of this race many times. look closely during the last lap at 12:57 pre's head turns to the right twds the stands. almost like looking for something thats not there that day. maybe a kick needed to win? that precise moment i think he realizes he is beat this time. afterall he hardly ever lost at middle distance. Any expert opinions have a view different? Please comment about 12 57 during the race.
raysalsa1 2 years ago 2
R.I.P. steve prefontaine, had your life cut short. run in the fields of heaven forever
connorqualheim 2 years ago 2
Amen
ww1313 2 years ago
Aww to bad God isn't real. So he is just in his grave.
AnAutisticWhale 2 years ago
alright im not going to start a big youtube bitch fit so ill just say you beleive what you wana beleive and ill beleive what i wana beleive
connorqualheim 2 years ago
okay.
AnAutisticWhale 2 years ago
there will never be another Pre..He was the best.
ev92527 2 years ago 2
Wow, must really suck to be the guy at 0:46 getting lapped! I've never been lapped in a race, but it must be incredibly humiliating!
canadianmaple09 2 years ago
but when it's by pre.....it's expecting. so not so humiliating for the guy. lol. although i have to much competitive nature in me for it to happen
someguynamedaaron 2 years ago
Well dipshit if you want to get lapped in a race you can race me. I can kick your ass in a race and show you how humiliating it is.
steel12city 2 years ago
thats just sport for u....
racketer 2 years ago
I would had picked something like "You Can't Catch Me" by Lita Ford, for a good choice of a song, for Pre...
RIP, Pre...
LeanaJoH76 2 years ago
i dont rlly like the song choices
they just dont scream Pre to me...
duranduran531385 3 years ago
have you never seen gladiator? this song is perfect its celebrating his wonderful yet brief life. showing his fantastic talent and spirit. and the song is appily named 'now we are free' (i think anyways)
Maverick5588 2 years ago 4
mad world
viren was doping for the finnish government, not to mention pre was younger and still rising
NickTheNerdShow 3 years ago 4
fucking LIAR
VirenKickedPresAss 2 years ago
Really dude? I swear to fucking God, your life is coming onto YouTube and preaching to kids who find Pre as an inspiration on how Viren was so fucking cool. Nobody cares.
masturch33flolol 2 years ago 3
Well, you obviously CARE, since you REPLIED, numbnuts. Don't like it? DON'T READ IT.
VirenKickedPresAss 2 years ago
Don't like the video don't go to it.
thefallen2124 2 years ago
Viren also ran away from an opportunity to race Pre in the U.S. ....any idea why Viren was scared to race Pre?
springsteel333 2 years ago
As if it matters? 4 golds say it all. Who cares about a dual meet?
VirenKickedPresAss 2 years ago
Yifter kicked Viren's wazoo to timbuc2
springsteel333 2 years ago
And Viren kicked YIFTERS wazoo in the 1972 Olympics, too. :)
VirenKickedPresAss 2 years ago
I'd say Yifter the shifter got the better of Viren. When they raced the last time, and Yifter took off........................woooosh.
springsteel333 2 years ago
How many golds does Yifter Have? How many does Viren have?
VirenKickedPresAss 2 years ago
Yifter's country boycotted the "76" olympic games, and you still want to do a metal count? Viren boycotted a Finland trip to the U.S. because Prefontaine would have kicked his arse.
springsteel333 2 years ago
Yes, I do want a medal count. How many golds does Viren have, and how many does Yifter have?
VirenKickedPresAss 2 years ago
You can't change the fact that the Finn's showed up to race in the U.S. .....but Viren was to scared............I don't blame him.
springsteel333 2 years ago
whats the song that plays at the last 20 seconds?
superwetback2 3 years ago
He was not just a runner,he was more than that...and we dont count his 4th place in munchen,he was under the bigg stres because of terorists and the whole thing that happened at the olimpic games,but most of the people dont understand that.
minellka 3 years ago
its munich not munchen but anyways ya he ran a faster time than the winner of that race before. its because the pace of the race was too slow and since he couldnt out sprint the other people he came in 4th.
Maverick5588 3 years ago