God IS a Trinity part2

[betweendalions]

i understand your theory but its not the doctrine of the trinity, you should study arianism. of priest arius who was against the catholic church and the theory. In fact christ is God from God, perfect from perfect, but different in characteristics tho the spirit of the 2 is 1. Do you believe they are the same exact being? I believe you agree with what I stated. Call it something else besides the trinity so ppl want be confused, but everyone in the spirit of God were known as gods, or sons of God

[jamlimited3]

@betweendalions I understand the false doctrine you refer to and you clearly see the doctrine i am referring to...why then play the fool in combining the two as I clearly reject that which is false? I subscribe to the doctrine of the Bible which is not of ANY RELIGION nor any man but built on God's Word concerning the KINGDOM of God. I have many videos on the trinity and most are not confused...soul, body, and spirit are not the same, but the 3 are tri-une in being ME and such is with God.

[oldpreach]

Just the very title of the video gives it away, and is very alarming Why call God something that in all the entirety of Scripture He NEVER called himself ? This would be adding to the Word at the very least.

[Churchfellaway]

I have scripture and clearly you do not!

[jamlimited3]

@Churchfellaway Hahahaha because i didnt quote like a religious pharisee parrot that means I dont have scripture? What then have I been speaking on? The Kingdom? and you know this because of scripture. You know that I need to refer to scripture because Im speaking on what scripture speaks of...you simply disagree with my theology and you play silly games when scripture backs up the trinity from the very beginning til the last page. From Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to Peter, James, and John.

[Churchfellaway]

All the Angels are God

(Psa 8:5) For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels (Elohim), and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

Jesus said those whom the word comes they are all God

(Joh 10:35) If he called them gods , unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

Yah said all the rulers are Gods

(Psa 82:6) I have said, Ye are gods (Elohim); and all of you are children of the most High.

[jamlimited3]

@Churchfellaway Angels are not god and you cannot worship angels as you do god, THE Angel of the Lord. God came as the Son of Man but you do not worship all sons of Man(Adam). We are gods because we are in His likeness...we will be like the angels(and never will be God as the angels are not but ARE called gods thus they too are Elohim-plural).

[Churchfellaway]

Abraham is God

(Gen 23:6) Hear us, my lord: thou art a mighty( Elohim) prince among us: in the choice of our sepulchres bury thy dead; none of us shall withhold from thee his sepulchre, but that thou mayest bury thy dead.

Moses is God

(Exo 7:1) And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (Elohim) to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

The rulers of the people are Gods

(Exo 22:28) Thou shalt not revile the gods (Elohim), nor curse the ruler of thy people.

[jamlimited3]

@Churchfellaway You are speaking as a fool. If you wish to speak anymore to me on this issue dont speak as a fool. Im referring to you calling Moses God. I dont humor people like you...but right now I plead the blood of Jesus over your mind, body and soul and command for a straight path to be made for you and for the Holy Spirit to enter into your life and reveal Himself as God and reveal to you the truth.

[Yuratchka]

God is one. God is NOT a trinity.

I suggest that you watch my video on why the doctrine of the trinity does not work when it concerns the Canon: /watch?v=aY6fQPUAfy4

[jamlimited3]

God IS a trinity based on the definition of the word trinity...God is NOT a trinity based on the misinterpretation of the definition.

As much as a husband, wife, and child/children equate 3 key roles in a family...as much as soul, body and spirit equate the 3 key roles needed for a descendant of Adam called man to exist in this world...so does the author of these godly(godly meaning like God Himself) roles reveal himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit spanning 3 realms in which we too exist.

[Reavoltion]

JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY AMEN.

[jamlimited3]

And though i am soul, body, and spirit and MUST be soul, body, and spirit to be alive...I am also ONE and the perversion of the 3 units of me are the cause of sin(we arent to be led by our flesh nature though that nature is not bad. A parent isnt to be rebuked by the child though children are not bad and we define these roles and the order of them by looking within the God Head who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit...one person called God with 3 parts that make Him(none existing w/o the other).

[TheBereanSearch]

@Yuratchka God being one, and God being a Trinity are not mutually exclusive claims. All Trinitarians believe God is one.

[jamlimited3]

New age who speak things contrary to the Bible like you Quietbuck. No man that rejects Holy Spirit as God, Messiah whom's blood washes us clean as God, can even reach the Father whom cannot be accessed but through the Spirit that leads to Messiah in SPIRIT AND...AND....in Truth. Quietbuck is like Satan...does not want us to understand that we are 3part beings for such a revelation causes us to seek God and learn TRUTH of the Trinity and the power of such understanding(hence Satan hates it).

[jamlimited3]

Its very clear...Yeshua said those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit, who is NOT the Father, will not be forgiven in this age or the age to come. He sent us the Holy Spirit who is the Counselor. This same Spirit is exalted all through scripture as YHVH Himself and you pervert His work, His word, and His nature to retain your ignorant misunderstandings such as those who cannot equate the being in Revelation1:17-18 as Yeshua AND YHVH. You dont understand authority or yourself you 3part being. ^__^

[jamlimited3]

EVERYBODY please acknowledge that Quietbuck does not PM long scriptures but wastes the limited amount of daily comments as the devil sent them to do. Yeshua told the pharisees they did not have eternal life through the scriptures but these scriptures silence Quickbuck:

Us(Gen 1:26)

BodyofGod(Judg 13:22)

Messiah AND Spirit AND Father(Isa 11:1-3)

3parts(Matt 28:19)

Before Abraham(Joh 8:58)

Paul(2 Cor 13:14)

The FIRST and the LAST who WAS DEAD(Yeshua) but LIVES FOREVER(Rev 1:17-18)

[Yeshua777]

Yes, the Father, then Yeshua will be there, the Holy Spirit rulling all of us the Congregation, we are all becoming ONE, but still we don't become the same piece of matter, IT MEANS UNITY, compound UNITY, like a community. Like you put things together and they become ONE, example a group is formed by people, many persons together is ONE group. T. care.

[Yuratchka]

You kno what I don't like? Those who think they are intelligent when in reality they have become brainwashed by philosophy.

[jamlimited3]

Interesting...you know what I hate? Religion and the spirit of religion. I love the Kingdom of God which grants wisdom to farmers and fishermen...the like which causes the wisdom of philosiphers(mispelled) and religious pharisee-like people to stumble hard and reconsider their positions. The authority and wisdom of God stands be it in the mouth of a fool or an angel from heaven.

[Yeshua777]

All right, so then you do admit that is ONE spirit, and G-d calls Himself a Father, a Son, and the Holy Spirit that lives in US,

three in ONE. I think you understand, I think it's just a way of looking at it. Good Shabbos, need to go for the next services, we will talk more later.

[Yeshua777]

How can you be my brother if you are not admitting that the Spirit of the Father, is the same that formed Yeshua flesh and G-d, and it's the same that lives in all those who believe, may G-d open your spiritual eyes!

[Yeshua777]

Wow, I still can't understand how you can not get it...

any way, G-d only knows why...

[Ascendillusion]

i find it funny how people think they can understand Gods full nature....

[jamlimited3]

I find it even more funny how people choose not to try and understand what can be understood. A man knows he will never fully understand his wife and so he ignorantly takes her for granted and never learns of the many things available to be understood. God is a veiled being to the unbeliever but who can say they know God and have intimate relationship with Him and never press into the knowledge of who He is. Some unbelievers understand Him more than so called believers.

[Ascendillusion]

im not going against the Trinity.

[Ascendillusion]

i wasnt referring to you ...i was talking about people who deny the Trinity thinking they can fully understand GOD NOW....and they cant, HE is eternal ...something mankind will never understand.....all this arguing about the Trinity is getting ridiculous, people need to read their Word and focus on God.

[jamlimited3]

Amen. Arguing is necessary just as long as people stay in the right spirit(Jesus argued more than anyone in the Bible). We are to contend(fight) for this faith having good answers to those who question the truth but those who will not reason to sound evidence are foolish(like Stephen giving a good argument for faith in Jesus and they did not consider his wise words and stoned him instead). We are all called to grow in truth...I agree with you..they need to read the word focusing on Him. ^__^

[DCYahwehsrvant]

I have unremoved my comment because you need to read them. Your comment "if you have any conflict with his video, you are out of it." All right then, I am out of it.

But one bit of advice when speaking on this topic you need to removed the Occult symbol from your video.

Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the STAR of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

David never carried such a star.

[jamlimited3]

I just replied to someone in another video for the same comment. Why do you draw false conclusions? Who told you that was the star of Molech? The devil? God justifies the things He reveals but you cannot justify ANY demonic association to the star of David which is despised and hated world wide by those demonic and antichrist and antisemetic. There is a star more likely to be the star of molech used world wide in witchcraft. Be careful...there is a way that seems right that leads to death.

[puppy777777777777777]

i have seen jesus it was great he was beautiful i am waiting for you jesus

i am lord i will return when the time is right says jesus

if you dont belive i have seen lord jesus than thats up to you

[puppy777777777777777]

jesus we love you please come back and save us

[cyberpunkmonk]

i really appreciate you and how much you are in 'deep calling to deep'. you have an awesome understanding and you are an insightful man who blesses this Messianic Christian. Thank Yah for you and i pray He will promote you and let His favor rest upon you!

[Ascendillusion]

wheres the Holy Spirit sitting?....He is in us!

[puppy777777777777777]

the holy spirit is inside of us all

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[Ascendillusion]

yep...i was commenting on DCYahwehsrvant.....questioning the Trinity...i see his comments were removed.

[puppy777777777777777]

ok my friend !!

[jamlimited3]

I see the comments have confused me a bit as well but Im certain those who believe in the trinity in spirit and truth are the ones hungriest for insight on the trinity like we believers. Just a random statement from me. Most who oppose Trinity oppose it because they dont know the scriptures nor understand our triunity OR they know the scriptures, but are bound to dead tradiction with no authority(religion has no authority apart from the truth of scripture which often contradicts religion).

[jamlimited3]

I wish that were true...the first minute of this video speaks on that a bit. Read my comment to

Ascendillusion for your own edification. Please feel free to share your opinion.

In wisdom and understanding

-Jamar

[jamlimited3]

Amen. Just for your own edification though, In heaven there seems to be a place for the Holy Spirit to dwell in power. He is the omnipresent part of God because He can be anywhere at anytime yet His presence , though able to see all things as a mind can potentially conceive all things, only visits certain places like a mind only thinks on certain things. In heaven His place appeared to Moses as a 7 branched candlestick. His presence avoids Hell as a mind avoids topics. Be blessed!

[DCYahwehsrvant]

If the Holy Spirit is poured out. How can a be a third person, can a person be poured out. The Ruach Hakodesh is the power of Yahweh, the active force. I n every one of Pauls letters to the Assemblies. He addresses them by saying "from God our Father AND the master Yahshua Messiah". Every one of the letters. Why did he not add and the holy spirit in any of thses letters.

[jamlimited3]

You are a spirit person...a person is a force but force is not a person. Your spirit will pour out of your body at death and Satan will pour out his spirits upon the armies that will gather to wage war against the Lamb. The Holy Spirit is referred to as a He(person) by Yeshua...even as God Himself and NEVER referred to as a force such as Star War's force. If you read scripture often these things would come into remembrance unless you blind yourself to them by choice. 2 Cor 13:14(all 3)

[DCYahwehsrvant]

Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS THE DAY AND HOUR of Yahshua's return. Not even the son (Yahshua) knows. So if Yahshua is co-equal to the father. Why would the Father know and not the Son.

Come on Jamar! Use scripture insted of the traditions of churchianity.

Yahshua is the son of god. Not god the son.

[jamlimited3]

I will show you the power of wisdom and the deception of folly. When Messiah spoke to men, did He speak knowing ALL THINGS concerning them? Remember also that He said "before Abraham was, I AM". Look to Messiah as if you were staring Him in the face...know His word such as how He said "I am the first and the last" and remember His blood...then YOU tell me if He is the Lord your God and everyone will know the truth of your position. He said drink His blood...will this too make you stumble?

[DCYahwehsrvant]

The doctrine of the trinity says that all 3 are co-equal and co-eternal. The scriptures plainly say: Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

If the Father is greater they are not the same person.

[jamlimited3]

Dude, you cant make doctrine of the trinity according to religious tradition no more than you can bend and break the doctrine of Trinity by your own personal religion or tradition. Justify Trinity by the word and break trinity by the Word if you can but if you use foolish statements like "the doctrine of the trinity" and say something contrary to the word with me, you speak as if you are blinded by religion and think I too am of one. Come correct. PM me or be short and sharp in your speech.

[DCYahwehsrvant]

Jamar, I love you friend but I am going to have to disagree with you.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

[Yeshua777]

I AM THE GREAT I AM, BEFORE AVRAHAM I AM.

HE WAS THERE FROM THE BEGINNING, IN THE BEGINNING ELOHIM (FATHER, SON, AND HIM =YESHUA)

HE WAS THERE: THE SON.

Then it's hard to understand when some of the Messianics say I am a Messianic but I don't believe in the Tri-Unity???

I AM A TRUE MESSIANIC, AND I BELIEVE IN THE TRI-UNITY.

HalleluYah!! Praise Yah! I LOVE THIS MESSAGE OF YOURS, it came from the Father of Truth !! Praise Yah :D!

[jamlimited3]

Halleluyah! You indeed are a true messianic....I've said that before in secret but now I say it openly since you confess it yourself. I wish to see more messianic men walking in the understanding that you do. Amen amen!

[Travers54]

Jesus the man born of a woman was flesh and blood like all men are, but the man Christ Jesus birth from the tomb and death is immortal and eternal as shown in colossions 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; the first born from death to by the spirit of God, whereby God is his Father and source giver of life..

[jamlimited3]

Amen amen! I would add too the perspective that Jesus Christ born of a virgin was the Lord our God worthy of worship and worshiped by those who came to see Him bringing gifts(even the shepherds who saw the angels worshiping and praising Him for His act of fulfillment...the beginning of the end of sin through Messiah). You hold to sharp theology and wield the scriptures very well. Glory to God!

[Travers54]

John 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

[jamlimited3]

amen

[Travers54]

It all sounds pretty complicated and complexed to me, Is this what the woman at the well and the centurion who met Jesus believed. First and foremost, Jesus always refered to himself as the Son of man, it is by the rescurrection to spirit life that he became the spirit born Son of God, Romans 6:9 .Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

[jamlimited3]

Actually the angels and Adam are called sons of God even before need of resurrection(which doesnt qualify one to be a son). Even the spiritually dead resurrect to everlasting destruction according to Daniel. Jesus is the Son of God by definition. God is the Father and He is unchanging. When the great "I AM" created beings in His likeness they were holy spirits, born sons and daughters to God with the destiny of sons(to become fathers thus God gave man woman). This is called understanding.

[Travers54]

Thanks for your reply. Yes I knew that the angels and Adam were called son's of God, but also the Priests and Kings of Israel were also referred to as son's of God, as people of faith are, as recognise by Jesus in John 10:33:36.

[2pacOG]

This was good.

[DeeJayemet]

Keep studying brother. And Remember the good book says:

שמע ישראל יהוה אלהינו יהוה אחד

Deu 6:4

YHVH is one!

Be blessed

[jamlimited3]

Thank you bro for the blessing! Glad to see you again...miss you man. Hope all is well my fellow bearded brother!